agreed. im a little dissapointed tbh. DMC4 is my fave in the series. and i found Neros gameplay to be superb fresh air with many fine mchanics integrated. i love DMod boss rankings, but i feel like he phoned it in here. its a bit of a shame to have the video you waited for the most in the series be devoided of all layer. felt like he only grazed the content, and just went through nero with basic gameplay. Something i havnt known DMod to do ever, as he usually goes well into the various mechanics and how it can affect and differ in battles.
@@ildathet thnx. just sucks seeing so little put into it, when there so much more that can be done. its like, imagine if DMod put up a DS video, but never mentioned Storm Ruler or Onion Knight for Yjorm, or lighting the stage for Lost Sinner. or mentioning how Melee vs Range builds affect certain battles, or aggression vs defensive gameplay. literally seems like he went through nero with only the triangle button
@@tylerox9 He also wasn't revving hardly ever, I couldn't see him use the rev during a combo during the whole video. It's no wonder he likes Dante better because he didn't even play Nero, he played the triangle button.
bruh sanctus is THE worst boss I've beaten I would even rank the dark souls 1 bed of chaos higher than this annoying asshole who can only run away n block
Yeah, I just watched his DMC boss rankings and I am not sure if these games really are for him. Seeing him stand in the background and spamming ranged attacks the whole fight while hearing stuff like "it doesn't do much damage so you can just tank it" is weird. The whole point of these games is to kill enemies as stylish as possible.
@@UtopieKid he did say he used to Dante style then Nero. And if he tries it in a different way like more buster and the brass Knuckles weapons where it has a delay if you do it right massive damage increase.
From the gameplay footage, did you grab ANY of the bosses with the Buster grab when they were stunned? You would've gotten a badass cutscene attack that shaves off more damage than just attacking. And with Nero's DT active, there'd be even more damage and additional attacks. Also, Berial below Agnus!? Credo below SANCTUS!? You crazy?
DestroyerOfHope it’s kinda annoying to watch this footage especially when he stuns Berial and when he mentions dagons stun it’s like ah just press B goddammit
H M Vergil is so much fun to play as. He’s so fast and has more combos than he does in DMC3. You should check out a combo video, it may “motivate” you to play as him. His only downgrade is his lock on + back move on the Beowulf gauntlets. Instead of the 2 kicks, he does a plain uppercut. It can be powerful when charged, but it’s not as useful. Sanctus is a lot better to fight with him, I would place him higher on my list, but in the base game (not special edition) he’s a really annoying boss. And pretty much all bosses are better to fight as Vergil, except for the savior. There’s no fixing him.
Except for Sanctus, which really fucks with me. Why would you not buster bosses who are stunned, but buster a huge attack that isn't easily read as something you can counter?
@@t.a.w.3492 because you HAVE to buster it, chances are he didn't know and looked for it online mid-fight. ...which is actually the same thing i did, but at least i forgot only about parries, he forgot about so much more... I bet he even thought the buster worked only on human-sized enemies.
"Sanctus moves out of your combos" ... then just Punch the asshole into a wall then, or DT and smack him like 10 times before smashing him down, makes me wonder if he even beat the False Savior at the end, pretty sure you had to Buster it's swings.
...please can you tell me? I know you can parry his electrical balls, but other than that, I've got no clue... This is also why I understand him not parrying anything: till the end of the game nobody tells you and it's hard to figure out what you can and cannot parry without either a guide or a lot of time to test it out, but that's only the tip of the iceberg on how badly he approaches dmc4...
The simplest way is to shoot him a couple times with the beam of Pandora, or u could just judgement cut the hand( the attack of the yamato) and he should fall
cant believe im saying and doing this. but with the shameful lack of in-depth looking into the bosses here and straight up ignorance of vital mechanics, this video earns that dislike
Yeah. It seems like he only beat the game in human mode since he never really learned how to lock on and time dodges(which you're kinda forced to learn on other difficulties)
@@blindtreeman8052 to be fair at the beginning of most vids he does say "I always play the game and rank the bosses based on normal difficulty." It's safe to assume he played on normal unless otherwise specified.
1. He plays on the standard difficulty (because it's the original way the devs meant the game) 2. He hates lock on cameras, he didn't use them in most of DS and BB fights, no surprise here
@@saiyass_95 I gotta try it on my Son of Sparda playthrough. It's a bit overwhelming having the Yamato and a new style on Dante for just one boss fight
@@Joe-oc9rq People like to throw the word "opinion" in these ranking lists as a "get out of jail free" card. Opinion is just half of what should go on this kind of lists. The other half should be objective observation; in this case: Did the developers exercise good game design? Sure, it's the UA-camr's/creator's right to make whatever-the-crap kind of list they want, hell, they can rank Savior at #1 and Credo at #1,000. But it doesn't mean it's a well-made list.
List feels half-assed and only approached from a 'just beat the bosses and move on' angle, which is like the way to NOT play the game. Try playing it with good performance and your whole moveset in mind.
You can also grab the bosses with Nero's arm once you do enough damage to stun them to get a ton of damage off on them, the animations are pretty cool for them!
If they're in the game a player has a right to choose to play whatever difficulty they want be it the easiest or the hardest. The game is meant to be in enjoyed and that's what different difficulties offer different enjoyment for people who want different things out of the game.
@@TeryonTheHuman what im trying to say is that the first 2 difficulties are too easy for that difficulty setting i get what you are trying to say but what im also trying to say is that it licks us out of other difficulties until you beat DH
oh man I really don't want to be the guy but you really make it hard.... watching you smash the same basic attack over and over again is real hard, but no thats not all! Then you proceed to have a fully charged red queen and waste it on the same basic attacks instead of the 'special' lockon attacks. And did you even ever use the buster in the game?? you would have gotten badass cutscenes and massive damage Edit: Also how the fuck did Credo not make it to no.1? Also he was not hard? Did you not play any of the harder difficulties?? why you even play this game come on dude like I am pretty sure all of the gameplay was on the easiest difficulty... you can beat all the bosses in basically seconds not even experiencing most of the gameplay
Seems like he only played the game once on human difficulty, you really can't get away with that on higher difficulties since the game kinda forces you to learn how to lock on and dodge. A shame really(to be fair i was an unstylish scrub when i first played the game)
Everyone was a unstylish scrub at the start, but you are supposed to replay the game multiple times to unlock the harder difficulties and new content. The game is made with the image in mind that people will keep playing to master the characters, I myself am no pro but the level that he is playing he is legitimately missing out on 90% of the content including basic fucking attacks and the buster I just dont understand. Even if you do not replay the game you should learn this basic shit within couple missions...
damn it seems the vid is pretty uninformed. thats the thing i liked about the dmc bosses, is that there are layerss to them. you can be an absolute scrub and just mash attack and shoot and think the boss is boring or be rewarded by experimenting and/or learning about all the powerful shit you can do with the characters. Instant Revs with Nero made every encounter ten times more exciting and the buster moves where just spectacular. dante is even on a different level.
Sorry I'm stopped after you said "Theres a stun you can get good damage on". I'm advising you to replay the game and utilize your Devil Bringer more... Sorry this was your weakest video
I can completely agree on Dante being above Credo. But Sanctus imo is a garbo boss. And how can't you talk about boss buster moves? Those were the best part of Nero's play through.
There’s literally a boss in DMC 5 called “Artemis” which is basically a way better designed Sanctus. Which means sanctus wasn’t a very good boss to begin with if the design could be improved that much. (Artemis isn’t Sanctus, I’m just saying they are very similar, but Artemis is way better)
@@Z-A-C Sanctus isn't that bad. He's pretty good, especially if you can buster the statue and Sparda. BUT, I disagree with Credo being worse than Sanctus. Credo, especially on DMD is an absolute treat.
Joe the Coyote No, not necessarily. It still had the functionality of that boss. It just wasn’t very good in DMC 4. In DMC 5 that boss design is way better with great improvements.
I learned with the Savior that the best way to take him down is to use the Pandora's laser attack. He's slow enough to where you can set it up and it does MASSIVE damage so you can knock him down and go for even more damage
@@piergiorgiocaroli9201 Yeah, it can seriously wreck the Savior and save you loads of time. There were things in that game I was still discovering even after years of having finished it. That just shows how deep the mechanics are
Why should he? He says during the DMC2 video that he plays games on normal, and no, you can't say that "The whole point of DMC is playing it on the harder modes", it's a regular game and that's all it is.
You can Distorted Real Impact Savior's chest gem when he comes up to you and likely demolish his health bar. You also have Gunslinger Pandora for more firepower for when you have to shoot the works.
Watching this video reminds me why most action games have dumb QTEs. DMC4 expects the player to intelligently read the bosses animation to figure out when to use the Buster command grabs.
Tbf, i didn't even know you could parry enemies until i reached sanctus... If i knew i might have at least guessed, but there wasn't even that, so yeah. The fun part though is how i knew a good chunk of the parries in 2010, while now i forgot all of them, every single one.
The board game is easy once you know the trick (the number that's face-up on the dice when you hit it will always be what you get), the actual worst part of DMC4 is definitely the Savior boss fight. I'd go as far as to say it's one of the worst boss fights in the series, period.
Yes. That shit made me loose my shit on higher difficulties. Oh so you just beat a giant frog, here lets have you fight another one, but before that fight a room full of those lightning mo'fos
I can tell you are a Nero rookie. You can Buster the following things: Echidna charge, Credo spears, Saviour punch in the first Sanctus fight, and every single boss when they are stunned and some bosses have like 2-3 different busters when they are stunned (none has as many as Berial though, he's a pinata of busters!) and that's not counting DT Buster which changes up the animation and does more damage. Also, Nero's DT activation not only has invincibility frames, it's also an attack so it's essentially an offensive parry and it CAN stun a boss if you do it the moment they attempt to hit with certain attacks.
13:32 Literally the exact opposite of the point of DMC and he KNOWS IT! WHAT?! Edit: Didn’t realize there was a response to the hate, thanks for addressing our problems.
Man, I thought Credo was easily the best boss battle in the game. Dante is cool, but I didn't really find him nearly as fun and cathartic to fight as Credo. I also liked Berial a lot more than say Agnus and perhaps even Sanctus. Pretty good list though.
While i appreciate your content and cant wait for your dmc 5 video, as well as the fact that im happy you are enjoying the game, dmc boss rankings kind of require you play on the harder difficulties since enemies get more moves and better tactics, since upgrades always carry over. So only playing on the normal mode, while i get that is a clear thing you mentioned at the beginning of the series, kiind of misses the point
Ok. Again with the Rebellion and Pistol spam. Its not like you have 4 other styles and any other devil arms or guns. Naw naw, even the circle button doesn't exist. I mean its not like Nero has a demon arm or anything. Jesus, you might as well be playing on Automatic.
I have to agree with the number one spot purely because as a long time DMC fan who played every game upon release, fighting Dante was both aesthetically pleasing and challenging. Fighting him on the hardest difficulties was absolutely brutal as he pulls out every trick available to his styles and wastes no time in punishing your mistakes. He also doesn't give you much time to get used to a pattern as passive play brings the guns to bear (since he's completely immune to your gunplay) and the absolute MOMENT you make for an aggressive move he counters with whatever attack will beat your frames. You'reforced to watch his range and keep track of his current stance and prepare for the few attacks you CAN punish and every mistake is precious as he deals an absurd amount of damage. Other bosses on the harder difficulties were difficult mostly due to the amount of damage they deal and certain bullshit attacks being unforgiving but none of them required the amount of precision that Dante did. Credo keeps a close second because he follows a very similar aesthetic. His attacks are far more aggressive than dantes and he has a pattern that can be punished, that being you can break his shield over time for buster attacks. This lets you play a passive game of punishing his attacks but the fact his onslaughts become more and more frenzied over the course of the fight and your windows too dent his shield shorter and shorter He presents a decent challenge
I know you considered the window fight part of Agnus but the window fight is actually the worst one in the game don’t @ me Credo is the best, and if you utilized your buster and maybe played on a harder difficulty your opinions may be different
I love the Devil May Cry series, and I've loved it since I was a toddler. Looking back, I played a lot like you when I was 10 years old, but even my premature and ramen-infused mind still used buster moves on bosses! I love you, I really do, but srsly, m8, take some time in the Bloody Palace and just try to use different combos for Nero and Dante, as well as weapon switching. If you have this mentality, it'll translate over well to the sequel. Also, there's a mechanic with Nero in which if you rev your sword in the middle of a swing, it will buff it. Just try these out and focus less on triangle, and more on different ways you can approach a fight with your arsenal. I want to see a SSStylish rank for a good sum of your later encounters! Best of luck to you! ~Doodlr
Personally I count the containment cell as it’s own boss fight and count that as by far the worst. As for my favorite I’d honestly say Credo cause not only does he look like a younger Flase King Allant but he demanded a lot out of me that I felt Dante didn’t I found with Dante just spam him until he shoots to counter then close in on him before you do a dash attack. Rinse and repeat until you win. Also I didn’t mind the savior because you could use all of Dante’s ridiculous sub weapons to make the fight much faster.
Echidna has a voice pretty similar to what I expected 😂Do you still plan on doing Dark Souls 2 speedruns? That’s something I’ve been wanting to see for a while now
why you no menchion the devil arm attack you can do when you stun the angler frog thing as nero ? and how all bosses have a point where you can devil arm them for a special attack that is little more rediculous and damedgeing when you are in devil triger when you do it either way it does massive damedge and its also just fun to watch they best done at end of there stunn as it well ends the stunn so wail on them a bit then grab them and watch the health bar drop with all the comments im seing on the video about you missing this i hope you do a revise
@@tylerox9 lol ya really do hope he reads the comments and does a revise after actually knowing how to pay nero hes my fav and it was sad to see him played that way ik he a novice but come on
@@reddragon9064 eh. i mean, i figure he wont. that be pretty wishful thinking. im sure we all feel the same. an acknowledgement of it from him be nice. more importantly, its constructive critism. i love dmods vids. and id like to see him do more stuff than the limited soulsborne content. but not at the cost of shoddy undepth display of heavily missing mechanics. he likes to say he uses every advantage given to him in the game. well, he didnt here, and it heavily impacted the experience and quality of the vid
@@tylerox9 i agree fully hence the revise idc when it comes but as long as he acknowledges his mistake say in dmc 5 video then that be fine but i whant him to also fix it and at very least lern from the mistake and actually do research and do all the things he says he will lern all the mecanics and use them to there full advantedge i personaly think there anuf comments about it to warrent a revise espashily sence it WILL change the exsperence he tryed playing nero like dante when thats not how you play nero he dident even charge his blade like at all
@@tylerox9 also i think he will also at that point have to rate them diffrently as its a very diffrent fight for eatch boss when fighting as nero or as dante dante has his devil arms which i also dident really see him use only showed the cutesceens i ASUM he used them they are good and also dident seam to use the other styles much he soulda tested things out more he really did a shoty job with this and just needs to re do it
I suggest that you do play these games in higher difficulty. As I personally found out, the bosses actually have larger move sets that are more devastating, but you can only access them on Son of Sparda or higher, with each higher difficulty unlocking their move sets quicker
DMC4 basically got the Metal Gear Solid 5 treatment....A great game that was tragically Rushed. Thankfully DMC5 is Phenomenal, looking forward to that ranking.
@@edybocman76 DMC5 is great. Though... SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS I wish they had one or two more missions of Dante and Vergil cutting the Qliphoth down. Felt like it ended a bid too soon and too sudden.
You should've ran a higher difficulty playthrough to show off how the bosses change. Berial becomes a jump cancel DPS race central, quite fun. Frogs become a fodder joke and are the least fun to fight. Echidna becomes a very fun boss to follow around and find moments to damage. And with Nero you can buster her charge move and get some exceed out of it. Credo on DMD becomes just a really fun boss with lots of attacks that are quick, but still fairly easy to dodge, throwable appears you can parry or throw back with buster, shield that is satisfying to break and berserk mode when he gets low. By the way, you can buster Saviour's first on the Sanctus fight and he'll pop right out.
Berial is pretty fun when you have enemy step and air hike, you can jump cancel your way to victory and it feels good to not take any damage and not touch the ground. You can change the Lock on in 4 to be toggle rather than held, iirc. Also you should Buster the bosses for massive damage. Credo Angelo is the best boss after Dante.
Tip for saviour. You can reflect his ranged ball attacks to gain white orbs, while in DT you do way more damage to him, and I believe if you knock back the orange orbs he falls down.
Hey Demod, have you considered doing a ten things you loved/hated about your speed runs? Like a recap after they are done, letting you vent/praise about the run a little?
Fun fact: Echidna is a real figure from Greek mythology, a snake lady who, together with her husband, the titan Typhon, gave birth to the race of monsters. So the lady inside the petal does make sense. n.n
I'll be honest before the health bar spawned i had no idea shooting the Savior from range was effective. Credo is an easy franchise top three for me tho.
I like your boss ranking videos, but clearly you don't really know how to play DMC. It's about being stylish, not R1 spam like SoulsBorne. A lot of moves can knock Savior down on that platform and you can get free attacks. Buster and Charge shot and Exceed are Nero's key tools and I hardly saw you use them in the video. Don't use the same move over and over. That's not how you play DMC. BTW I don't really like Sanctus, from both gameplay and story perspective. And Berial is actually a really good boss. I'm sure you'll completely change the way you look at this game after you truly learn the mechanics. Now you're really playing it like SoulsBorne.
I would rank the fights as: 1. Credo 2. Berial 3. Dante 4. Agnus Angelo 5. Echidna 6. Savior 7. Sanctus 8. Bael Fortunately I can say all the bosses in this game are good
you know you can use your buster on berial when his fame are out you can also use buster when when berial use his super charge attack when his health his low you know you can use buster when frog is down on ground with his tongue out you know you can use buster on Echidna when is head is spinning you know you can grab credo with buster if you thrust him up each time plus you can catch his spear and you know you can use buster on savior when he punch you in stage 11 and hell you can even use buster on sanctus when all his shield are down and at mission 20 you can catch sanctus with buster when he charge towards you at the end. You clearly haven't understood DMC and their the game-play DMC games are not button masher(except dmc2) which is how you are playing it and that say a lot about your video and ranking.
I was waiting a comentary of the buster on Sanctus first fight, it's satisfying how he beats de crap out of him and how he says "You are the demon, not me"
1:15 Ehh ... dude, the game just gave you Vergil's Sword for that phase 2 of the boss right before it starts. It gives you a long range sword attack. Also you can keep running in circles to the platform here 1:25, where you always get an opening for a bunch of meele hits. As the others mentioned, yeah, you missed a lot out on the buster attacks. They add a bunch of depth to many of the bosses with Nero.
Great video, dude. But I would've had Credo at #2. In my opinion his fight is a complete adrenaline rush. And that you can approach the fight differently. You can attempt you zip around the battlefield and find small windows to attack him or you can try breaking his guard. Not only that but he also has a risk-reward system in the boss fight with him throwing spears at you at crazy speeds which allows you to catch them mid air and throw them back at him (Assuming you have the reflexes to do so). Quick and agline bosses are always a blast to fight and I think he deserves being higher than the priest.
One point regarding the Savior: In the last part where you have to bring down his chest, you can knock him down just like you can in the first phase of the fight by hitting his hands when he attacks you. Hell, sometimes I did it on accident with Pandora. That lets you jump in on his chest and get your crazy melee damage in. Also, Credo > Sanctus all day.
You stabbed me with a "No busters on bosses" sword
You've unlocked my disappointment trigger...
I find the lack of buster moves used on bosses here disturbing
agreed. im a little dissapointed tbh. DMC4 is my fave in the series. and i found Neros gameplay to be superb fresh air with many fine mchanics integrated. i love DMod boss rankings, but i feel like he phoned it in here. its a bit of a shame to have the video you waited for the most in the series be devoided of all layer. felt like he only grazed the content, and just went through nero with basic gameplay. Something i havnt known DMod to do ever, as he usually goes well into the various mechanics and how it can affect and differ in battles.
@@tylerox9 could say it better ! Having played through the bloody palace, i would have ranked berial far higher and sanctus far lower
@@ildathet thnx. just sucks seeing so little put into it, when there so much more that can be done. its like, imagine if DMod put up a DS video, but never mentioned Storm Ruler or Onion Knight for Yjorm, or lighting the stage for Lost Sinner. or mentioning how Melee vs Range builds affect certain battles, or aggression vs defensive gameplay.
literally seems like he went through nero with only the triangle button
@@tylerox9 He also wasn't revving hardly ever, I couldn't see him use the rev during a combo during the whole video. It's no wonder he likes Dante better because he didn't even play Nero, he played the triangle button.
@@HollaHollaGetDolla yeah, revving for exceed attacks totally downplays the waiting during bosses more evasive and defensive maneuvers
NO BUSTERS ON ANY BOSS?!?!?!?!!?
*THE DISAPPOINTMENT LEVELS ARE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY!!!!*
First 3 seconds summarizes this video lol
@@ClassicGameFire lol
I played through the first 15 missions without knowing you could buster bosses
Well it seems that some people were clueless.
(I was trying to buster every enemy in every situation in first walkthrough)
sanctus above credo?
.....
u kiddn right?
I can maybe see that if you only play on Devil Hunter which I’m pretty sure he did. Credo gets so much more fun on higher difficulties.
White-Van Helsing I mean, you right tho
bruh sanctus is THE worst boss I've beaten I would even rank the dark souls 1 bed of chaos higher than this annoying asshole who can only run away n block
Seems like someone didn't use real impact on savior.
he could also use pandora's laser canon from range to do high damage instead of spamming ebony & ivory.
Gotta Distort rail impact
Two hits from the cannon also stun the Savior and allow you to get up-close for melee.
@@toufiq309 I played dmc4 so much and I honestly didn’t know that lol I’ll have to try it
Yeah I didnt struggle at all with this boss even on the higher difficulty, it isn't a fun boss fight but it's less
Honestly I thought Credo was the best fight in the game. Sanctus and Savior can go to hell.
I agree with you on the savior, but I liked the fights against sanctus. Savior was a really poor boss fight.
Credo and Berial we're my favorite bosses in DMC4
Credo IS the best boss in the game, but savior is actually good... to me, just an opinion
@@HeroOfTime1 I like Berial for Sworn Through Swords
Man I loved fighting Credo, definitely the best boss in the game for me.
Dmod, you shame us! how could you be oblivious to the unique Boss Busters!
2:58 shows all his problems, man.
Did the game ever explain that mechanic. I didn't even know it was a thing :/
@@epicaccount9036 Yeah. In the first Dante fight.
@White-Van Helsing so is literally every single fandom.
@White-Van Helsing i mean.... Every fandom is shitty in its own unique ways. For example mha fandom.
You're still not styling! This isn't Ninja Gaiden, the point isn't to kill things ASAP.
Exactly! The point is to kill things quickly and with style.
Yeah, I just watched his DMC boss rankings and I am not sure if these games really are for him. Seeing him stand in the background and spamming ranged attacks the whole fight while hearing stuff like "it doesn't do much damage so you can just tank it" is weird. The whole point of these games is to kill enemies as stylish as possible.
@@UtopieKid he did say he used to Dante style then Nero. And if he tries it in a different way like more buster and the brass Knuckles weapons where it has a delay if you do it right massive damage increase.
From the gameplay footage, did you grab ANY of the bosses with the Buster grab when they were stunned? You would've gotten a badass cutscene attack that shaves off more damage than just attacking. And with Nero's DT active, there'd be even more damage and additional attacks.
Also, Berial below Agnus!? Credo below SANCTUS!? You crazy?
DestroyerOfHope it’s kinda annoying to watch this footage especially when he stuns Berial and when he mentions dagons stun it’s like ah just press B goddammit
He's not really good at DMC. His qualifications are having a UA-cam channel, and that's it.
@@lastboss4268 His qualifications are being too attuned with Dark Souls.
@@destoroyahofhope4005 Yeah, he's a damn fine Bloodsouls player. But I feel like he's missed "the point" of Devil May Cry games.
He could also grab the bosses attacks like credo's...that hurt me.
Credo 1
Dante 2
Plant dragon lady 3
Berial 4
Sanctus 5
The frog 6
Regular agnus 7
Agnus glass window 8
Savior 9
You finished the game on DMD right? Because that's the true order...
I like Berial the most of the gate bosses but I agree that both him and plant lady are a step above the toad.
H M
I finnished it on DMD twice.
Once as Nero and Dante. And once as Vergil. Not doing it on lady and trish because I hate playing as lady
@@Z-A-C I knew you had to because no one who played up until SoS would get that order right... I have yet to do it as Vergil. Any good?
H M
Vergil is so much fun to play as. He’s so fast and has more combos than he does in DMC3. You should check out a combo video, it may “motivate” you to play as him. His only downgrade is his lock on + back move on the Beowulf gauntlets. Instead of the 2 kicks, he does a plain uppercut. It can be powerful when charged, but it’s not as useful. Sanctus is a lot better to fight with him, I would place him higher on my list, but in the base game (not special edition) he’s a really annoying boss. And pretty much all bosses are better to fight as Vergil, except for the savior. There’s no fixing him.
Thumbnail: *shows Devil Bringer front and center*
Video: *Doesn't use Buster on very obvious stunned states*
Except for Sanctus, which really fucks with me. Why would you not buster bosses who are stunned, but buster a huge attack that isn't easily read as something you can counter?
@@t.a.w.3492 because you HAVE to buster it, chances are he didn't know and looked for it online mid-fight.
...which is actually the same thing i did, but at least i forgot only about parries, he forgot about so much more... I bet he even thought the buster worked only on human-sized enemies.
"Sanctus moves out of your combos"
... then just Punch the asshole into a wall then, or DT and smack him like 10 times before smashing him down, makes me wonder if he even beat the False Savior at the end, pretty sure you had to Buster it's swings.
You don't...use...lock on...? Or buster attacks? Or ANY combos beyond the bread and butter? Sorry man, this vid vastly misunderstands DMC4.
Demod hates lock-on, even in Dark Souls and BB he didn't use them
not using lock on in this game takes away roughly half your move list
@@EasilyBoredGamer even less with no usage of busters on bosses and especially charge shots
@@Spinworth Locking on is how your moves function tjis is not dark souls r1 and r2 spam
@@simran789654 "dark souls is r1 r2 spam, I also didn't get pass the first bosses"
Buster is important for a reason dude. It can counter a lot of moves and will wreck staggered bosses
The saviour can be stunned in 1000 ways in his second fase
Exactly! I don't know why he couldn't.
@@piergiorgiocaroli9201 he did nothing but spam E&I like a scrub, completely ignoring Dantes arsenal
...please can you tell me?
I know you can parry his electrical balls, but other than that, I've got no clue...
This is also why I understand him not parrying anything: till the end of the game nobody tells you and it's hard to figure out what you can and cannot parry without either a guide or a lot of time to test it out, but that's only the tip of the iceberg on how badly he approaches dmc4...
The simplest way is to shoot him a couple times with the beam of Pandora, or u could just judgement cut the hand( the attack of the yamato) and he should fall
Another advice: shoot the head only at the end of the first fase, just to make ur life easier
cant believe im saying and doing this. but with the shameful lack of in-depth looking into the bosses here and straight up ignorance of vital mechanics, this video earns that dislike
Yeah. It seems like he only beat the game in human mode since he never really learned how to lock on and time dodges(which you're kinda forced to learn on other difficulties)
@@blindtreeman8052 he didnt specify playing on the normsl/DH mode, like he usually does. might be on the money
Yeah same feeling, I had to give the dislike... The very deep lack of utilizing abilities was very off putting
@@blindtreeman8052 to be fair at the beginning of most vids he does say "I always play the game and rank the bosses based on normal difficulty." It's safe to assume he played on normal unless otherwise specified.
1. He plays on the standard difficulty (because it's the original way the devs meant the game)
2. He hates lock on cameras, he didn't use them in most of DS and BB fights, no surprise here
Nero gameplay have the advantage of the Buster that you can use even in bosses!
I'm happy to see the comments are already speaking my mind.
Well yeah the savior fight is tedious if you use the guns... Or you can use the 5th Style and just use the long range Slashes to do more damage
Christopher Davidson thank you, like that’s the whole point you got the Yamato to do the dimension slashes for
@@saiyass_95 I gotta try it on my Son of Sparda playthrough. It's a bit overwhelming having the Yamato and a new style on Dante for just one boss fight
Credo at number 3? Wow, could you be more wrong?
dude didn't even mention the most badass tech for that fight: catching the lance out of the air and throwing it back.
smh
Using the buster as a parry is also very rewarding but demod doesnt seem to do any techniques in this vid at all
@@8Kazuja8 I'm sorry that he has a different opinion than you.
@@Joe-oc9rq People like to throw the word "opinion" in these ranking lists as a "get out of jail free" card. Opinion is just half of what should go on this kind of lists. The other half should be objective observation; in this case: Did the developers exercise good game design?
Sure, it's the UA-camr's/creator's right to make whatever-the-crap kind of list they want, hell, they can rank Savior at #1 and Credo at #1,000. But it doesn't mean it's a well-made list.
Joe the Coyote I’m sorry that Sanctus is objectively terrible.
Hey DeMod. You can change LOCK ON from HOLD to TOGGLE in options. It will be the same for DMC 5. It changes a lot having the option.
List feels half-assed and only approached from a 'just beat the bosses and move on' angle, which is like the way to NOT play the game. Try playing it with good performance and your whole moveset in mind.
You are talking to the spanker of booties here. Might not happen
This series is a more casual look of the games.
You can use your buster on boss fights after they’re stunned and also the ice on the frogs is their weak spot
You can also grab the bosses with Nero's arm once you do enough damage to stun them to get a ton of damage off on them, the animations are pretty cool for them!
Hard disagree with a lot of this. Dante, Credo, Echidna, Berial, Bael/Dagon, Angelo Agnus, Sanctus, Saviour, Sanctus Diabolica, glass Agnus for me.
04whim perfect list
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Good list. My top three are Credo, Berial, and Angelo Agnus. That might change when I reach DMD, though.
The fact that the amount of damage he took from the saviour shows that he was most likely playing "Human" -_-
And what exactly would be the problem with that? Different difficulties exist in games for a reason.
@@TeryonTheHuman but some difficulties exaggerate or forget the point completely
If they're in the game a player has a right to choose to play whatever difficulty they want be it the easiest or the hardest. The game is meant to be in enjoyed and that's what different difficulties offer different enjoyment for people who want different things out of the game.
@@TeryonTheHuman you still don't understand what im trying to say
@@TeryonTheHuman what im trying to say is that the first 2 difficulties are too easy for that difficulty setting i get what you are trying to say but what im also trying to say is that it licks us out of other difficulties until you beat DH
oh man I really don't want to be the guy but you really make it hard.... watching you smash the same basic attack over and over again is real hard, but no thats not all! Then you proceed to have a fully charged red queen and waste it on the same basic attacks instead of the 'special' lockon attacks. And did you even ever use the buster in the game?? you would have gotten badass cutscenes and massive damage
Edit: Also how the fuck did Credo not make it to no.1? Also he was not hard? Did you not play any of the harder difficulties?? why you even play this game come on dude like I am pretty sure all of the gameplay was on the easiest difficulty... you can beat all the bosses in basically seconds not even experiencing most of the gameplay
Seems like he only played the game once on human difficulty, you really can't get away with that on higher difficulties since the game kinda forces you to learn how to lock on and dodge. A shame really(to be fair i was an unstylish scrub when i first played the game)
Everyone was a unstylish scrub at the start, but you are supposed to replay the game multiple times to unlock the harder difficulties and new content. The game is made with the image in mind that people will keep playing to master the characters, I myself am no pro but the level that he is playing he is legitimately missing out on 90% of the content including basic fucking attacks and the buster I just dont understand. Even if you do not replay the game you should learn this basic shit within couple missions...
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damn it seems the vid is pretty uninformed. thats the thing i liked about the dmc bosses, is that there are layerss to them. you can be an absolute scrub and just mash attack and shoot and think the boss is boring or be rewarded by experimenting and/or learning about all the powerful shit you can do with the characters. Instant Revs with Nero made every encounter ten times more exciting and the buster moves where just spectacular. dante is even on a different level.
"Nero good, Dante great" is essentially exactly my thoughts on DMC5
And V atrocious
Credo and Berial we're my absolute favorite bosses of DMC4 Credo's Angelo form just looks amazing, compared to Agnus and Sanctus.
FalseRegalia Angelo Agnus is still a pretty good boss. Throwing those swords at him was satisfying as fuck.
I thought Angelo Agnus was a fun boss. I stopped watching this after he put Berial at 2nd to last
This is hard to watch not just gameplay but the script included
Sorry I'm stopped after you said "Theres a stun you can get good damage on". I'm advising you to replay the game and utilize your Devil Bringer more... Sorry this was your weakest video
You know you could buster bosses right? when they get stun thats when you buster them.
What difficulty are you playing on cause berial sure as hell didn't just sit there and let me wail on him the whole time.
He’s playing on human. Damage values say so
DeMod... My dude... There are so many gameplay mechanics that you aren't utilizing... Buster, exceed, trickster, etc.
I mean... He did use trickster against the saviour... But that's arguable in utility to his arguments.
Wait you liked the perma lock on in dmc2?!
You can counter the Savior's melee attacks with your own to stun him immediately
For credo if you use a buster instread of melee for openings you can break his shield giving you an insane amount of time to wreck him
Now imagine this guy playing a fighting game 😭
Glad people finally realized that this guy just doesn’t understand how to get the most out the series.
Dude its not a musical number its a camp off
I can completely agree on Dante being above Credo. But Sanctus imo is a garbo boss. And how can't you talk about boss buster moves? Those were the best part of Nero's play through.
Sanctus is just annoying.
There’s literally a boss in DMC 5 called “Artemis” which is basically a way better designed Sanctus. Which means sanctus wasn’t a very good boss to begin with if the design could be improved that much. (Artemis isn’t Sanctus, I’m just saying they are very similar, but Artemis is way better)
@@Z-A-C Sanctus isn't that bad. He's pretty good, especially if you can buster the statue and Sparda. BUT, I disagree with Credo being worse than Sanctus. Credo, especially on DMD is an absolute treat.
@@Z-A-C What you're saying is that if you can improve something then the original thing is trash?
Joe the Coyote
No, not necessarily. It still had the functionality of that boss. It just wasn’t very good in DMC 4. In DMC 5 that boss design is way better with great improvements.
(Does he realize that you can grab the fairy waifus when you fight the toad?)
“Then I thrust it” - Dante DMC4
Poor guy, it was probably his first playtrough
I feel like you didn't fight the saviour properly, he's still boring though
I learned with the Savior that the best way to take him down is to use the Pandora's laser attack. He's slow enough to where you can set it up and it does MASSIVE damage so you can knock him down and go for even more damage
Never tried that. I always use E&I, Rebellion and Yamato. I usually wreck Berial with Pandora.
@@piergiorgiocaroli9201 Yeah, it can seriously wreck the Savior and save you loads of time. There were things in that game I was still discovering even after years of having finished it. That just shows how deep the mechanics are
@@Aiddon QUALITY!!! (Thanks for the tip by the way. I'll try it next time.)
Berial 2nd from the bottom? Lol sorry but I can't see how
Man
Please play the harder difficulties
Ive been playing this of dmd and ive not finished yet but it makes this game so much more exhilarating
Why should he? He says during the DMC2 video that he plays games on normal, and no, you can't say that "The whole point of DMC is playing it on the harder modes", it's a regular game and that's all it is.
@@Joe-oc9rq
Thats not what i said
My point was that i think the experience becomes better on the higher difficulties
you *LIKE* the insta lock of 2!?
You can Distorted Real Impact Savior's chest gem when he comes up to you and likely demolish his health bar. You also have Gunslinger Pandora for more firepower for when you have to shoot the works.
Watching this video reminds me why most action games have dumb QTEs. DMC4 expects the player to intelligently read the bosses animation to figure out when to use the Buster command grabs.
Tbf, i didn't even know you could parry enemies until i reached sanctus... If i knew i might have at least guessed, but there wasn't even that, so yeah.
The fun part though is how i knew a good chunk of the parries in 2010, while now i forgot all of them, every single one.
You realize he doesn't have to do that right?
Joe the Coyote You realize that by not doing it, you drag the fight out, right?
The worst part of DMC4 was that maddening board game section
It wasn't that bad
I kinda craved it
The board game is easy once you know the trick (the number that's face-up on the dice when you hit it will always be what you get), the actual worst part of DMC4 is definitely the Savior boss fight. I'd go as far as to say it's one of the worst boss fights in the series, period.
Yes. That shit made me loose my shit on higher difficulties. Oh so you just beat a giant frog, here lets have you fight another one, but before that fight a room full of those lightning mo'fos
worst part was the disappearing platforms with the reaper dudes
I can tell you are a Nero rookie. You can Buster the following things: Echidna charge, Credo spears, Saviour punch in the first Sanctus fight, and every single boss when they are stunned and some bosses have like 2-3 different busters when they are stunned (none has as many as Berial though, he's a pinata of busters!) and that's not counting DT Buster which changes up the animation and does more damage.
Also, Nero's DT activation not only has invincibility frames, it's also an attack so it's essentially an offensive parry and it CAN stun a boss if you do it the moment they attempt to hit with certain attacks.
13:32 Literally the exact opposite of the point of DMC and he KNOWS IT! WHAT?!
Edit: Didn’t realize there was a response to the hate, thanks for addressing our problems.
But seriously, you love the triangle button. A lot.
Comparing agnis to armstrong almost made me puke fam ive never had so many problems with one of your videos this just seems carelessly thrown together
Ouch. Thanks comment section for doing my job :D
You're meant to use the Yamato (Dark Slayer style) on the Savior, it's why you got it prior the fight, makes destroying the gems alot easier
U kno if a boss is stunned just like the old dude just snatch him so he doesn’t go away
Man, I thought Credo was easily the best boss battle in the game. Dante is cool, but I didn't really find him nearly as fun and cathartic to fight as Credo. I also liked Berial a lot more than say Agnus and perhaps even Sanctus. Pretty good list though.
Aw man, you never did exeeds with Nero :c that's the best part about him, bro.
While i appreciate your content and cant wait for your dmc 5 video, as well as the fact that im happy you are enjoying the game, dmc boss rankings kind of require you play on the harder difficulties since enemies get more moves and better tactics, since upgrades always carry over.
So only playing on the normal mode, while i get that is a clear thing you mentioned at the beginning of the series, kiind of misses the point
Ok. Again with the Rebellion and Pistol spam. Its not like you have 4 other styles and any other devil arms or guns.
Naw naw, even the circle button doesn't exist. I mean its not like Nero has a demon arm or anything.
Jesus, you might as well be playing on Automatic.
The frog goes into stun when the ice on the top breaks, so jump up and smash it, then hit his tongue because it does massive damage.
I have to agree with the number one spot purely because as a long time DMC fan who played every game upon release, fighting Dante was both aesthetically pleasing and challenging. Fighting him on the hardest difficulties was absolutely brutal as he pulls out every trick available to his styles and wastes no time in punishing your mistakes. He also doesn't give you much time to get used to a pattern as passive play brings the guns to bear (since he's completely immune to your gunplay) and the absolute MOMENT you make for an aggressive move he counters with whatever attack will beat your frames. You'reforced to watch his range and keep track of his current stance and prepare for the few attacks you CAN punish and every mistake is precious as he deals an absurd amount of damage. Other bosses on the harder difficulties were difficult mostly due to the amount of damage they deal and certain bullshit attacks being unforgiving but none of them required the amount of precision that Dante did.
Credo keeps a close second because he follows a very similar aesthetic. His attacks are far more aggressive than dantes and he has a pattern that can be punished, that being you can break his shield over time for buster attacks. This lets you play a passive game of punishing his attacks but the fact his onslaughts become more and more frenzied over the course of the fight and your windows too dent his shield shorter and shorter He presents a decent challenge
I know you considered the window fight part of Agnus but the window fight is actually the worst one in the game don’t @ me
Credo is the best, and if you utilized your buster and maybe played on a harder difficulty your opinions may be different
Ben Xen Sanctus is still worse. At least the window doesn’t run at 3x your speed.
I love the Devil May Cry series, and I've loved it since I was a toddler. Looking back, I played a lot like you when I was 10 years old, but even my premature and ramen-infused mind still used buster moves on bosses!
I love you, I really do, but srsly, m8, take some time in the Bloody Palace and just try to use different combos for Nero and Dante, as well as weapon switching. If you have this mentality, it'll translate over well to the sequel. Also, there's a mechanic with Nero in which if you rev your sword in the middle of a swing, it will buff it. Just try these out and focus less on triangle, and more on different ways you can approach a fight with your arsenal. I want to see a SSStylish rank for a good sum of your later encounters!
Best of luck to you!
~Doodlr
Also, Credo is best boi!
Credo was my favorite boss in that game but to each their own
Don't know of you knew, you can stun savior with dark style (vergil's sword)
DeMod i LOVE your Dark Souls videos, but you clearly haven't spent the time or effort on the DMC games to rank bosses...
Personally I count the containment cell as it’s own boss fight and count that as by far the worst. As for my favorite I’d honestly say Credo cause not only does he look like a younger Flase King Allant but he demanded a lot out of me that I felt Dante didn’t I found with Dante just spam him until he shoots to counter then close in on him before you do a dash attack. Rinse and repeat until you win. Also I didn’t mind the savior because you could use all of Dante’s ridiculous sub weapons to make the fight much faster.
I prefer to play as Dante. Don't like him that much as a Boss.
The lack of DMD mode is disturbing
Echidna has a voice pretty similar to what I expected 😂Do you still plan on doing Dark Souls 2 speedruns? That’s something I’ve been wanting to see for a while now
Though you don't make the most use of the Buster, which is kinda vital for the best rankings, I admittedly love some of your wordplay.
why you no menchion the devil arm attack you can do when you stun the angler frog thing as nero ? and how all bosses have a point where you can devil arm them for a special attack that is little more rediculous and damedgeing when you are in devil triger when you do it either way it does massive damedge and its also just fun to watch they best done at end of there stunn as it well ends the stunn so wail on them a bit then grab them and watch the health bar drop
with all the comments im seing on the video about you missing this i hope you do a revise
he didnt mention them cause he didnt do them. he rushed it and only used triangle
@@tylerox9 lol ya really do hope he reads the comments and does a revise after actually knowing how to pay nero
hes my fav and it was sad to see him played that way ik he a novice but come on
@@reddragon9064 eh. i mean, i figure he wont. that be pretty wishful thinking. im sure we all feel the same. an acknowledgement of it from him be nice. more importantly, its constructive critism. i love dmods vids. and id like to see him do more stuff than the limited soulsborne content. but not at the cost of shoddy undepth display of heavily missing mechanics. he likes to say he uses every advantage given to him in the game. well, he didnt here, and it heavily impacted the experience and quality of the vid
@@tylerox9 i agree fully hence the revise idc when it comes but as long as he acknowledges his mistake say in dmc 5 video then that be fine but i whant him to also fix it and at very least lern from the mistake and actually do research and do all the things he says he will lern all the mecanics and use them to there full advantedge i personaly think there anuf comments about it to warrent a revise espashily sence it WILL change the exsperence he tryed playing nero like dante when thats not how you play nero he dident even charge his blade like at all
@@tylerox9 also i think he will also at that point have to rate them diffrently as its a very diffrent fight for eatch boss when fighting as nero or as dante
dante has his devil arms which i also dident really see him use only showed the cutesceens i ASUM he used them they are good and also dident seam to use the other styles much he soulda tested things out more he really did a shoty job with this and just needs to re do it
Hey demod which game are you looking most forward to this year
Have fun with DMC5, literally every boss in that game is fun as hell.
agreed and the osts are amazing too
I suggest that you do play these games in higher difficulty. As I personally found out, the bosses actually have larger move sets that are more devastating, but you can only access them on Son of Sparda or higher, with each higher difficulty unlocking their move sets quicker
DMC4 basically got the Metal Gear Solid 5 treatment....A great game that was tragically Rushed.
Thankfully DMC5 is Phenomenal, looking forward to that ranking.
DMC4 is probably the best rushed game ever though.
Indeed, if DMC4 is a game that stretches a fairly small amount of content to the breaking point, DMC5 is basically "But wait, there's more!" The Game.
@@destoroyahofhope4005 Probably is lol
@@Arcananine77 dmc 5 is fucking great
@@edybocman76 DMC5 is great. Though...
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I wish they had one or two more missions of Dante and Vergil cutting the Qliphoth down. Felt like it ended a bid too soon and too sudden.
You should've ran a higher difficulty playthrough to show off how the bosses change.
Berial becomes a jump cancel DPS race central, quite fun.
Frogs become a fodder joke and are the least fun to fight.
Echidna becomes a very fun boss to follow around and find moments to damage. And with Nero you can buster her charge move and get some exceed out of it.
Credo on DMD becomes just a really fun boss with lots of attacks that are quick, but still fairly easy to dodge, throwable appears you can parry or throw back with buster, shield that is satisfying to break and berserk mode when he gets low.
By the way, you can buster Saviour's first on the Sanctus fight and he'll pop right out.
Berial is pretty fun when you have enemy step and air hike, you can jump cancel your way to victory and it feels good to not take any damage and not touch the ground.
You can change the Lock on in 4 to be toggle rather than held, iirc.
Also you should Buster the bosses for massive damage. Credo Angelo is the best boss after Dante.
Tip for saviour.
You can reflect his ranged ball attacks to gain white orbs, while in DT you do way more damage to him, and I believe if you knock back the orange orbs he falls down.
There are plenty of strategies you can employ to make the Savior much less of a pain. One Distorted Real Impact is enough to kill him on normal
Hey Demod, have you considered doing a ten things you loved/hated about your speed runs? Like a recap after they are done, letting you vent/praise about the run a little?
Fun fact: Echidna is a real figure from Greek mythology, a snake lady who, together with her husband, the titan Typhon, gave birth to the race of monsters. So the lady inside the petal does make sense. n.n
I'm fine with most of your ranking, but not Sanctus. That was shit.
Featuring Nero from the Devil May Cry series
I'll be honest before the health bar spawned i had no idea shooting the Savior from range was effective.
Credo is an easy franchise top three for me tho.
Yo. On the savior, cheese thebest gunslinger move where you just keep hitting circle. Shit melts those crystals like a snowball in a microwave
I like your boss ranking videos, but clearly you don't really know how to play DMC. It's about being stylish, not R1 spam like SoulsBorne. A lot of moves can knock Savior down on that platform and you can get free attacks.
Buster and Charge shot and Exceed are Nero's key tools and I hardly saw you use them in the video. Don't use the same move over and over. That's not how you play DMC.
BTW I don't really like Sanctus, from both gameplay and story perspective. And Berial is actually a really good boss.
I'm sure you'll completely change the way you look at this game after you truly learn the mechanics. Now you're really playing it like SoulsBorne.
I'd recommend you watch this Let's Play series. It shows a lot of depth.
ua-cam.com/play/PL03D78EEB6D886911.html
DMC4 was one of my first and favourite PS3 games and this video brings so much great memories !
Timing buster to grab santus is something I am just now learning..
I would rank the fights as:
1. Credo
2. Berial
3. Dante
4. Agnus Angelo
5. Echidna
6. Savior
7. Sanctus
8. Bael
Fortunately I can say all the bosses in this game are good
Credo os #2 you didn't put him there because you don't know but you can get those spears and throw back to him..... soooooo satisfying
Can you make another hollow knight boss ranking (with godmaster) worst to best/ easiest to hardest.. Anything. I need this on yt
you know you can use your buster on berial when his fame are out you can also use buster when when berial use his super charge attack when his health his low you know you can use buster when frog is down on ground with his tongue out you know you can use buster on Echidna when is head is spinning you know you can grab credo with buster if you thrust him up each time plus you can catch his spear and you know you can use buster on savior when he punch you in stage 11 and hell you can even use buster on sanctus when all his shield are down and at mission 20 you can catch sanctus with buster when he charge towards you at the end.
You clearly haven't understood DMC and their the game-play DMC games are not button masher(except dmc2) which is how you are playing it and that say a lot about your video and ranking.
I was waiting a comentary of the buster on Sanctus first fight, it's satisfying how he beats de crap out of him and how he says "You are the demon, not me"
1:15 Ehh ... dude, the game just gave you Vergil's Sword for that phase 2 of the boss right before it starts. It gives you a long range sword attack.
Also you can keep running in circles to the platform here 1:25, where you always get an opening for a bunch of meele hits.
As the others mentioned, yeah, you missed a lot out on the buster attacks. They add a bunch of depth to many of the bosses with Nero.
Great video, dude. But I would've had Credo at #2. In my opinion his fight is a complete adrenaline rush. And that you can approach the fight differently. You can attempt you zip around the battlefield and find small windows to attack him or you can try breaking his guard. Not only that but he also has a risk-reward system in the boss fight with him throwing spears at you at crazy speeds which allows you to catch them mid air and throw them back at him (Assuming you have the reflexes to do so). Quick and agline bosses are always a blast to fight and I think he deserves being higher than the priest.
One point regarding the Savior:
In the last part where you have to bring down his chest, you can knock him down just like you can in the first phase of the fight by hitting his hands when he attacks you. Hell, sometimes I did it on accident with Pandora. That lets you jump in on his chest and get your crazy melee damage in.
Also, Credo > Sanctus all day.
Do this again but this time when bosses are stunned use the buster on them :)
i really hope and wish he does.
might as well say "do it again but actually play nero"
@@EasilyBoredGamer I was trying to say it in a nice(ish) way