Dreamcar for the Consumption but the Price for the GR Sport Premiere Version costs in germany around 49 000 Euros and that is pretty much. Too much for such a small Car. It´s amazing good looking Outside but Inside it´s too conservative and too normal. So for me not a Car because much too expensive.
@@RobertCekus The okey version with 2.0liters is 37-43k euros depending on country, still very expensive, and also the prevsious gen has lots of complaints about the CVT going out between 80k-150k km which is a big scary thing since the cvt is such an expensive replacement, and also the thing is being built exclusively in the Turkey plant, which gives me personally a bit of a negative feeling as well, I really like the car and want to buy it, but it feels a bit like a gamble for such a pricey can. Logically since it's a hybrid realistically the transmission is breaking way sooner than the stated kilometers since its not working for all those kilometers, and it's using a C-HR specific transmission K114 where as all other trouble free toyotas are using the K120 go figure why they decided that. Can't find info on the 2024 model transmission but if it's a k114 I would honestly stay away or buy on a lease and throw away after 5 years
What do you call 'normal'. Don't buy a Toyota if you're not prepared to drive economically. That means, minimizing brake usage, minimizing ICE usage, using ICE in short slow burst, then gliding on the electric motor. It's not 'normal' driving. So, it can be a pain to deal with, maybe you need a PHEV, a full EV, or a Quashai / Civic maybe would be easier (basically, an electric car with a big generator). But it won't do miracles.
This is interesting, if you are on electric drive for a large portion of the journey - is the fuel efficiency accurate, or is it counting braking energy stored from the drive before you reset the trip? One of my bug-bears of PHEV's is they sometimes count the plug in charging energy as part of the efficiency of the combustion engine. Plug in hybrids should have separate l/100km and kWh/100km ratings depending on which drive train is active, and regen braking should 'credited' to whichever energy source got the vehicle going, so you should get the l/100km as if you never plugged it in, and kWh/100km if you only ran off the EV side. Curious what others think about to fairly rate the efficiency of hybrids and especially plug in hybrids?
To be honest, I do not understand about what kind of doubts you have. It is HYBRID, not PLUG-IN hybrid car. There is small (less than 1 kWh) battery and whole energy stored inside this battery comes from the combustion engine and of course braking. The SOC at start was similar with the SOC at finish, so?
@@1001cars okay, that makes sense - thank you - I could not see the SoC on the display - which bar is it? As you say, if the SoC is the same start to finish then the consumption would be gasoline used.
Talking about PHEV's: it should be counted together, like VW group & Mercedes & BMW cars do it. If you start the 100 km trip with fully charged battery (with for example 10 kWh usable capacity and electric range exactly 50 km) and at the finish you have for example 2,5 l/100 km + 10 kWh/100 km it means that you used exactly 2,5 l fuel PLUS 10 kWh energy on this trip. What other do you expect? Do you want to see results like: "you used 20 kWh/50 km and 5 l/50 km"? It is exactly the same. If the computer - theoretically - showed 5 l/100 km and 20 kWh/100 km it would not be the truth. Yes, this theoretical car uses 5 l/100 km with empty battery and 20 kWh/100 km in electric mode, but it DOES NOT MEAN it used on this 100 km distance 5 litres of fuel and 20 kWh of energy, just because it does not have 20 kWh stored inside the battery.
Still, even if - theoretically - the battery of his HEV car was charged to the maximum at start, and I - theoretically - finish with empty battery (which I did not), the impact on this result is - on this distance - around 2,6% in fuel consumption.
Excellent résultat ! Il n'y a cependant pas de raison que le resultat soit meilleur que sur Corolla avec le meme moteur. Probablement aussi l'indication OBC peut etre plus ou moins optimiste en fonction des vehicules. Aussi sur cet essai la vitesse moyenne est faible, le Scx/drag factor a peu d'influence.
You should not compare these results with Corolla from different location. You have to remember, on Corolla trip was highway etc. Also: Corolla trip had higher elevation differences.
@@morganmtu4525 oui pour le 196 qui profite de la bascule batterie en Lithium, non pour le 140 qui exploite plus la batterie au bénéfice de l'agrément et au détriment de l'efficience
The first thing: you should not compare this TRIP with the trip I made with Clio. This is two different roads scenarios. Other thing is that Renault E-Tech Hybrid based on 1.6 natural aspirated petrol engine is not as efficient as 1.8 l hybrid Toyota, but still in THE SAME conditions and at the same driving scenario Clio E-Tech is more efficient than C-HR Hybrid.
Les français n’aiment pas la boite de vitesse ecvt et n’ont pas compris qu’elle était ultra efficace en terme d’efficacité de fiabilité et de rendement énergétique
Jak to możliwe, że ten sam układ hydrydowy w samochodzie o tej bryle, wadze i na tych kołach robi 3,1 vs 3,9 w corolli kombi? Scenariusz testowy był reprodukowany z tego dla kombiaka? Nie znam współczynników oporu powietrza dla obu, koła potencjalnie mogły być 2 rozmiary większe w chr co i tak zniweluje nawet lepszy Cx. Zaskakująco dobrze, wynik na poziomie sedana z układem 1.8.
Nie da się porównać tych dwóch przejazdów. Zauważ, że tamte przejazdy uwzględniały dużo większe wzniesienia i była też autostrada. O ile w przypadku testów standardowych, które robię czyli 90, 120, 140 i miasto da się wyniki porównywać, o tyle te "trip" już nie
@@1001cars ok, dzięki. A kiedy kombiak 1.8 pełny zestaw testów? Przyznam, że ja aurisem wykręcałem lepsze wyniki niż ostatnie jazdy 5genHyb. Może mi się gpf wypalał akurat podczas jazdy.
@@marcinpajak2371 a z ciekawości; jaki przebieg miała ta hybryda 5gen? Z tego co gdzieś czytałem i trochę było to widać u rodziców z 1.8 4gen że po ok 10 tys. km silnik się "układa" i zaczyna zauważalnie mniej palić niż zaraz po wyjeździe z salonu. Też tu na teście temperatura jest idealna czyli auto ani nie grzeje ani nie chłodzi, jak by tą ch-r'kę testować obecnie u nas to nie ma szans że 11min i 20s pracy silnika dało by tyle ciepła żeby przez ponad godzinę utrzymywać komfort w kabinie więc i znacznie częściej silnik spalinowy by pracował aby utrzymać ciepło w kabinie nie mówiąc o tym że silnik w ogóle nie dał by rady osiągnąć swojej temperatury roboczej co już mocno obniża sprawność silnika a tym samym spalanie... oczywiście nie mówię że to wina autora kanału ale ktoś w Toyocie świetnie wykalkulował warunki do testowania ich nowego auta i hybrydy. Całkiem przypadkiem żona w yarisie 3 też akurat we wrześniu wyciągnęła najlepsze spalania w dojeździe do pracy na poziomie ok 3,6-3,7l/100km ;) Obecnie są to już ~4l
@@marcinpajak2371 tak jeszcze dopiszę bo akurat wczoraj jechałem tym yarisem przy 1C na dworze. Nagrzane auto, nagrzane wnętrze (po ok 50min jazdy, klima na 22C) i przejazd przez wioskę tylko na elektryku co trwało jakąś minutę i 15 sekund obniżyło temperaturę płynu z 86C do 72C... niskie temperatury niestety absolutnie rujnują wszelkie próby bicia rekordów spalania zdecydowanie bardziej niż lato i wymuszenie działania klimatyzacji. Owszem, w niskich temperaturach mocno pomaga obniżenie temperatury na klimatyzacji lub całkowite nie grzanie kabiny no ale chyba nie o to chodzi w jeżdżeniu autem :P
And it depends on the circumstances. If you do eco-drive, any factor can add a subtract 10-20%. Traffic, temperature, car weight, state of charge of the battery, type of road (flat, hilly). I know, on a particular journey, I can go 3.5l/100km, to 4.2l/100km, or more easily, if I'm not careful. But in general, Toyotas are hard to beat on efficiency.
Too small for what? Do you think you know the only answer what kind of space is enough for everyone? We are 2 persons and large dog and C-HR has been perfect size for 4 years. We have traveled 16 times Europe end-to-end in this time with no problems room wise. Have you ever driven or even been inside a C-HR yourself? Do you comment the same for a Ferrari test drive? They have very poor space and hard suspension.
Are you joke? Why should I drive 50 km/h over the speed limits? Show me on the video how you drive 50 km/h over the limit, I will send it to your local police department.
This was typical city consumption test and you need to understand, city is not highway, got it? Go find a highway consumption test to make your opinion on the car perfect. It's not 1001cars task to please you for all your needs, fake-face-no-name-profile. Learn to collect information from multiple sources.
People can't read or understand what they read :) No need to worry about those comments- they will always be there no matter what you write or do :) And when YOU (@Randomas32) as a human being drive in city, what is your average? Record and post please. Just maybe first read what city driving mean, so we are clear.
Dream Car in my opininon!
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Dreamcar for the Consumption but the Price for the GR Sport Premiere Version costs in germany around 49 000 Euros and that is pretty much. Too much for such a small Car. It´s amazing good looking Outside but Inside it´s too conservative and too normal. So for me not a Car because much too expensive.
@@RobertCekus The okey version with 2.0liters is 37-43k euros depending on country, still very expensive, and also the prevsious gen has lots of complaints about the CVT going out between 80k-150k km which is a big scary thing since the cvt is such an expensive replacement, and also the thing is being built exclusively in the Turkey plant, which gives me personally a bit of a negative feeling as well, I really like the car and want to buy it, but it feels a bit like a gamble for such a pricey can.
Logically since it's a hybrid realistically the transmission is breaking way sooner than the stated kilometers since its not working for all those kilometers, and it's using a C-HR specific transmission K114 where as all other trouble free toyotas are using the K120 go figure why they decided that.
Can't find info on the 2024 model transmission but if it's a k114 I would honestly stay away or buy on a lease and throw away after 5 years
Peace on you,
best video, lots of informations, this is the smartest tube i see, thank.
Nice Video, thanX! Yes, only TOYOTA is able to build reliable and extremely economic Hybrid Engines! I see it every Day @ my 2004 Prius, get 59MPG!
awesome, great for city ride
I've got the same car, it does 6.7l/100km on normal average city drive.
At what avg. speed? I think you should take some tips how to drive more efficiently :)
Ecoconduite ? Mode d uniquement ? Mode éco ? 3.5L au 100km en yaris4 hybride
What do you call 'normal'. Don't buy a Toyota if you're not prepared to drive economically. That means, minimizing brake usage, minimizing ICE usage, using ICE in short slow burst, then gliding on the electric motor. It's not 'normal' driving.
So, it can be a pain to deal with, maybe you need a PHEV, a full EV, or a Quashai / Civic maybe would be easier (basically, an electric car with a big generator). But it won't do miracles.
This is interesting, if you are on electric drive for a large portion of the journey - is the fuel efficiency accurate, or is it counting braking energy stored from the drive before you reset the trip? One of my bug-bears of PHEV's is they sometimes count the plug in charging energy as part of the efficiency of the combustion engine.
Plug in hybrids should have separate l/100km and kWh/100km ratings depending on which drive train is active, and regen braking should 'credited' to whichever energy source got the vehicle going, so you should get the l/100km as if you never plugged it in, and kWh/100km if you only ran off the EV side.
Curious what others think about to fairly rate the efficiency of hybrids and especially plug in hybrids?
To be honest, I do not understand about what kind of doubts you have. It is HYBRID, not PLUG-IN hybrid car. There is small (less than 1 kWh) battery and whole energy stored inside this battery comes from the combustion engine and of course braking. The SOC at start was similar with the SOC at finish, so?
@@1001cars okay, that makes sense - thank you - I could not see the SoC on the display - which bar is it?
As you say, if the SoC is the same start to finish then the consumption would be gasoline used.
Talking about PHEV's: it should be counted together, like VW group & Mercedes & BMW cars do it. If you start the 100 km trip with fully charged battery (with for example 10 kWh usable capacity and electric range exactly 50 km) and at the finish you have for example 2,5 l/100 km + 10 kWh/100 km it means that you used exactly 2,5 l fuel PLUS 10 kWh energy on this trip. What other do you expect? Do you want to see results like: "you used 20 kWh/50 km and 5 l/50 km"? It is exactly the same.
If the computer - theoretically - showed 5 l/100 km and 20 kWh/100 km it would not be the truth. Yes, this theoretical car uses 5 l/100 km with empty battery and 20 kWh/100 km in electric mode, but it DOES NOT MEAN it used on this 100 km distance 5 litres of fuel and 20 kWh of energy, just because it does not have 20 kWh stored inside the battery.
Still, even if - theoretically - the battery of his HEV car was charged to the maximum at start, and I - theoretically - finish with empty battery (which I did not), the impact on this result is - on this distance - around 2,6% in fuel consumption.
@@1001cars right. Thanks for the insights. Was the SoC on the dash display?
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Excellent résultat ! Il n'y a cependant pas de raison que le resultat soit meilleur que sur Corolla avec le meme moteur. Probablement aussi l'indication OBC peut etre plus ou moins optimiste en fonction des vehicules. Aussi sur cet essai la vitesse moyenne est faible, le Scx/drag factor a peu d'influence.
You should not compare these results with Corolla from different location. You have to remember, on Corolla trip was highway etc. Also: Corolla trip had higher elevation differences.
Les moteurs 140ch et 200ch de la corolle doivent être davantage efficaces que les 122 et 184 ch
@@morganmtu4525 oui pour le 196 qui profite de la bascule batterie en Lithium, non pour le 140 qui exploite plus la batterie au bénéfice de l'agrément et au détriment de l'efficience
In your opinion why doesn't the clio e-tech gets the same results? I have one but I can't get similar results to the toyotas
The first thing: you should not compare this TRIP with the trip I made with Clio. This is two different roads scenarios. Other thing is that Renault E-Tech Hybrid based on 1.6 natural aspirated petrol engine is not as efficient as 1.8 l hybrid Toyota, but still in THE SAME conditions and at the same driving scenario Clio E-Tech is more efficient than C-HR Hybrid.
Thank you for the answer!!
Will you ever make a video on how learn to perfectly drive efficiently?
Les français n’aiment pas la boite de vitesse ecvt et n’ont pas compris qu’elle était ultra efficace en terme d’efficacité de fiabilité et de rendement énergétique
can you change instant consumption parameter from 7,5 to 5,0 ?
What? I do not understand.
@@1001cars instant consumption is from 0 , 2,5, 5 , mid 7,5 and last 15...I'v seen somwhere mid 5 L/100...wonder can u change this...
Jak to możliwe, że ten sam układ hydrydowy w samochodzie o tej bryle, wadze i na tych kołach robi 3,1 vs 3,9 w corolli kombi? Scenariusz testowy był reprodukowany z tego dla kombiaka? Nie znam współczynników oporu powietrza dla obu, koła potencjalnie mogły być 2 rozmiary większe w chr co i tak zniweluje nawet lepszy Cx. Zaskakująco dobrze, wynik na poziomie sedana z układem 1.8.
Nie da się porównać tych dwóch przejazdów. Zauważ, że tamte przejazdy uwzględniały dużo większe wzniesienia i była też autostrada. O ile w przypadku testów standardowych, które robię czyli 90, 120, 140 i miasto da się wyniki porównywać, o tyle te "trip" już nie
@@1001cars ok, dzięki. A kiedy kombiak 1.8 pełny zestaw testów? Przyznam, że ja aurisem wykręcałem lepsze wyniki niż ostatnie jazdy 5genHyb. Może mi się gpf wypalał akurat podczas jazdy.
@@marcinpajak2371 Póki co w parku prasowym nie ma takiej wersji auta niestety :( Ale będę się starał.
@@marcinpajak2371 a z ciekawości; jaki przebieg miała ta hybryda 5gen? Z tego co gdzieś czytałem i trochę było to widać u rodziców z 1.8 4gen że po ok 10 tys. km silnik się "układa" i zaczyna zauważalnie mniej palić niż zaraz po wyjeździe z salonu. Też tu na teście temperatura jest idealna czyli auto ani nie grzeje ani nie chłodzi, jak by tą ch-r'kę testować obecnie u nas to nie ma szans że 11min i 20s pracy silnika dało by tyle ciepła żeby przez ponad godzinę utrzymywać komfort w kabinie więc i znacznie częściej silnik spalinowy by pracował aby utrzymać ciepło w kabinie nie mówiąc o tym że silnik w ogóle nie dał by rady osiągnąć swojej temperatury roboczej co już mocno obniża sprawność silnika a tym samym spalanie... oczywiście nie mówię że to wina autora kanału ale ktoś w Toyocie świetnie wykalkulował warunki do testowania ich nowego auta i hybrydy. Całkiem przypadkiem żona w yarisie 3 też akurat we wrześniu wyciągnęła najlepsze spalania w dojeździe do pracy na poziomie ok 3,6-3,7l/100km ;) Obecnie są to już ~4l
@@marcinpajak2371 tak jeszcze dopiszę bo akurat wczoraj jechałem tym yarisem przy 1C na dworze. Nagrzane auto, nagrzane wnętrze (po ok 50min jazdy, klima na 22C) i przejazd przez wioskę tylko na elektryku co trwało jakąś minutę i 15 sekund obniżyło temperaturę płynu z 86C do 72C... niskie temperatury niestety absolutnie rujnują wszelkie próby bicia rekordów spalania zdecydowanie bardziej niż lato i wymuszenie działania klimatyzacji. Owszem, w niskich temperaturach mocno pomaga obniżenie temperatury na klimatyzacji lub całkowite nie grzanie kabiny no ale chyba nie o to chodzi w jeżdżeniu autem :P
How do you achieve such fantastic consumption figures?love the channel.
Ecoconduite. Ingienierie Toyota. Moteur à cycle atkinson à haut rendement. Boîtier de contrôle électronique avec 20 annees d’expérience
And it depends on the circumstances. If you do eco-drive, any factor can add a subtract 10-20%. Traffic, temperature, car weight, state of charge of the battery, type of road (flat, hilly). I know, on a particular journey, I can go 3.5l/100km, to 4.2l/100km, or more easily, if I'm not careful.
But in general, Toyotas are hard to beat on efficiency.
Il consumo un po' manipolato 😉 Il motore era già riscaldato 😉
Good consumption but car is too small and suspension is too hard
Too small for what? Do you think you know the only answer what kind of space is enough for everyone? We are 2 persons and large dog and C-HR has been perfect size for 4 years. We have traveled 16 times Europe end-to-end in this time with no problems room wise. Have you ever driven or even been inside a C-HR yourself? Do you comment the same for a Ferrari test drive? They have very poor space and hard suspension.
Are you joke? 33 km/h average speed? Max speed 70 one time? With 80-100-120 km/h which is the consumption?
Are you joke? Why should I drive 50 km/h over the speed limits? Show me on the video how you drive 50 km/h over the limit, I will send it to your local police department.
@@1001cars highway is our friend... All we know what's the consumption in city. In highway with 90-120-140?
@@tkin73 There was NO highway on this road.
@@1001cars no highway in your area?
@@tkin73this is not my area, this was the place where the car presentation was placed. If you want to ASK me for a test on highway, you can do that.
That’s a total fraud. Who’s gonna drive with average speed 33km/h ?? 😂I bet this car has 5.5-6.5 lt/100 when you drive like a human being !
Everybody drives with even lower speed in a city. Everybody has avg. speed like that on road like that (such limit speeds)
This was typical city consumption test and you need to understand, city is not highway, got it? Go find a highway consumption test to make your opinion on the car perfect. It's not 1001cars task to please you for all your needs, fake-face-no-name-profile. Learn to collect information from multiple sources.
People can't read or understand what they read :) No need to worry about those comments- they will always be there no matter what you write or do :)
And when YOU (@Randomas32) as a human being drive in city, what is your average? Record and post please. Just maybe first read what city driving mean, so we are clear.
@@timogronroos4642 hey bot, why are you so mad. do you usually get mad when people are asking things that aren't fitting your narrative?