An Interesting Exponential Equation | Math Olympiad Prep!

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  • @gregevgeni1864
    @gregevgeni1864 3 місяці тому +2

    Let (1) the initial equation.
    But (√44 + √144)^x = (2√11 + 12)^x = (1+√11)^(2x) = [(1+√11)^x]^2.
    [(1+√11)^x]^2 and the (1)
    [(1+√11)^x]^2 = x^2
    [(1+√11)^x + x]•[(1+√11)^x - x] = 0 .
    .....

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 3 місяці тому

    It was a wonderful introduction and clearly explaining thank you Sir for sharing....x=-0,489

  • @SidneiMV
    @SidneiMV 3 місяці тому

    √44 + √144 = 12 + 2√11 = (1 + √11)²
    *1 + √11 = a* => (1 + √11)² = a²
    a^2x = x²
    x = ± a^x
    x = a^x
    lnx = xlna
    (1/x)lnx = lna
    (1/x)ln(1/x) = ln(1/a)
    ln(1/x) = W[ln(1/a)]
    1/x = e^W[ln(1/a)]
    x = e^-W[ln(1/a)]
    *x = W[ln(1/a)]/ln(1/a)*
    x = - a^x => a^x = -x
    u = -x => x = -u
    u = a^(-u)
    -ulna = lnu
    (1/u)lnu = -lna
    (1/u)ln(1/u) = lna
    ln(1/u) = W(lna)
    1/u = e^W(lna)
    u = e^-W(lna) = [W(lna)]/lna
    *x = - [W(lna)]/lna*

  • @RashmiRay-c1y
    @RashmiRay-c1y 3 місяці тому +1

    Note that sqrt(144) + sqrt(44) = 12+2sqrt(11) = (sqrt(11) + 1)^2. So, (sqrt(11) + 1)^(2x) = x^2 > 2ln x = 2xln(sqrt(11)+1)> 1/x ln(1/x) = - ln(sqrt(11)+1) > ln(1/x) e^(ln(1/x)) = - ln(sqrt(11)+1) > ln(1/x) = W(-ln(sqrt(11)+1)) > x = e^[- W(-ln(sqrt(11)+1))] = 0.035 - 1.05i. So, x = 0.035 - 1.05i. If we solve x^2 = (sqrt(11)+1)^2x graphically, we get x = -489.

    • @xualain3129
      @xualain3129 3 місяці тому

      You are right. There is no real solution for W(-ln(sqrt(11)+1)).

    • @RashmiRay-c1y
      @RashmiRay-c1y 3 місяці тому

      @@xualain3129 I tried to evaluate the appropriate value for the Lambert W function on Wolfram Alpha and got a complex number as the answer. However, instead of taking that route, if we solve (sqrt(11)+1)^(2x) = 18.7^x = x^2 graphically, we do get a real solution, x=-0.489. There must be another branch of the W function that Wolfram Alpha is missing. I wonder why.

    • @xualain3129
      @xualain3129 3 місяці тому

      @@RashmiRay-c1yThank you for your quick response. After close review, I guess I found out the other solution we neglected.
      With (sqrt11)+1)^(2*x)=x^2
      We should get two solutions.
      (sqrt(11)+1)^x=x which leads to no real solution.
      (sqrt(12)+1)^x=-x which can be eventually deduced to
      W(ln(sqrt(11)+1)=-x*ln(sqrt(11)+1)
      W(1.4624)=-x*1.4624
      0.71523=-x*1.4624
      x=-0.489
      That is the real solution we looked for.

    • @RashmiRay-c1y
      @RashmiRay-c1y 3 місяці тому +1

      @@xualain3129 Excellent!

  • @ericerpelding2348
    @ericerpelding2348 3 місяці тому

    Can this be solved without using the W function?
    I asked this because some algebra classes do not cover ro mention that function.

    • @RashmiRay-c1y
      @RashmiRay-c1y 3 місяці тому

      Yes. If we solve x^2 = (sqrt(11)+1)^2x graphically, we get x = -489.

    • @infyGyan
      @infyGyan  3 місяці тому

      We may use the Newton raphson method too to get the solutions.

    • @moeberry8226
      @moeberry8226 3 місяці тому

      @@RashmiRay-c1yx cannot equal -489 that’s impossible your math is off.

    • @dorkmania
      @dorkmania 3 місяці тому

      How did you get the value of e^-W[-ln(√11 + 1)] as -0.4891?