I bought this PROYAMA saw needing a decent limbing saw for a big job i was doing. I honestly didn't expect it to last the whole job as I have always used husqvarna or other brand name saws. I have been truly amazed by this saw and its durability, workmanship, and dependability. I have since used this saw on over 100 tree jobs. It has done everything from limbing to cutting firewood to cutting down trees to milling. I am still using the original chain and bar. The chains that come with it are really aggressive. If you do start to lose power check and clean the air filter. As it gets clogged it will lower the performance but that will happen with all saws. I would highly recommend this saw to anyone. I have told logger friends and tree cutting friends about it and they have purchased some and love the saw.
I ended up buying the Proyama to add to my chainsaw collection addiction. I have ran this a few times and agree with most of what you say, although I am not too pleased with the power, it seems to bog down easily compared to my MS251 and 455 Rancher which both zip through just about anything without bogging down. Assembly of the Proyama was a breeze, it seems to be good quality and chain is very aggressive like you say. Starting it for first time was a bit worrisome until I held throttle and then it fired right up. After the initial starting it has been easy to start just like my Stihls, Husqvarnas & Echos. I am running 32:1 mix for the first 2 tanks per the manual then I will run 40:1, My question is do you have any performance issues with ur Proyama bogging down and not having enough power for a so called 62CC.
Hi Canuck, I was a Husqvarna dealer for 8 1/2 years. I have seven of them from 40cc to 93cc. I noticed the amp and guitars in the background. I bought ten cheap guitars in the last year, just to see how good they are. Let me tell you, they all are great! I bought a Proforma 70 cc saw last month, just to see if cheap chainsaws would follow suit. I haven't started the Proforma yet. I'll let you know my impressions, if it ever stops raining here in PA. Thanks for posting.😊 Shalom/gw. PS I believe God has talented children everywhere. Given the right conditions, they will produce excellence.
Gasket is different, i actually cut my own out of gasket paper for all my saws, learned it from Iron Horse. Gasket and oiling holes drilled out a bit bigger will keep the bar oiled good.
Hey 👋 question for you sir...with the air filter on this power saw. Can this filter be used on the supmix pinkway ect ect they are all of the same family? lol I have been trying to come up with a solution for a different kind of filter that comes on them saws. The fines will get around the fine filter that comes on them. Same filter that comes on the new crafsmans. I just ordered the same saw your unboxing in hope that it's filter will also fit my other Zenoah clones... thanks for your time 🙏
Yeah they are all interchangeable, if you look at my other videos there is one doing a filter upgrade on a supmix.. The filter assembly was about 4$ Canadian from aliexpress
@@chainsawcanuck awesome... I thought so! I can't stand the filters that come on them saws! I too have a chainsaw addiction lol and recently added the Zinoa clone saws it! Thanks brother have a good day
Great video. How did it perform for ya? I just bought one but it will only start run for 2 seconds then die. Any ideas? Im tthinkin fuel delivery problem or bad crank seal? It has lots of compression and spark.
@@chainsawcanuck yeah it was way outta adjustment and wouldnt start at all so i went in all way and out a turn n half on low and high screws. Now it starts but dies after a second or two. Ive tried making small adjustments to no avail.
Follow up: it ended being a broken low adjustment screw...tip snapped off in carb blocking passage. I attempted to extract but it was too tiny and wedged. I got a replacement carb from Proyama after months wait. Then same thing low screw came snapped amd jammed. I verified this by removing right from brand new before even screwing in any adjustment. So i got fed up and put it on shelf. Then it occurred to me I have an old spare Poulan carb. Carb parts mostly all contactable so i used the new Proyama guts to rebuild the old Poulan Carb and I swapped the fuel pump impulse cover off the Proyama and it fit on the other carb. She fired right up and runs great. Im super happy now. Very loud open muffler with two exit pipes but she screams and quick revver. Ive been enjoying your videos and appreciate the knowledge. One last question for you if you have time. I recall in your videos you saying they are around 50cc despite their claimed size. This one is claimed 68cc 20" and 24" bar. have you ever measured that particular one? Is it also just a 50cc? Thanks for your time.
I'm actually looking at one of these cells. I think it's a pro yama 68cc with a 24-in bar and chain and I think he comes with a 20-in 3/8.05 eighths wondering what's your thoughts upon you saw as the scene of video of a gentleman that has looks like a tree servicing business and said that this all runs really nice once you kind of break it in after 4 to 5 tanks and says that he does like it as a mid-size saw. Just wanted to buy this as I have an older Husqvarna 61 and don't want to go and spend over 1200 for a saw that's just going to sit around with all this kind of looking at this
Just remember that these generic zenoah clones are never the displacement they claim, like the one in the video is marketed as 62cc its only 49.3cc, the 68cc one is probably only 54.5cc On Amazon there is a supmix saw that goes on sale often for 159.99 canadian , it's a 54.5cc version and even tho plastics are different mechanically identical to the proyama, except the supmix does not have the performance killing catalytic muffler that the proyama saws have
Went to adjust the oiler at the bottom and i couldent get the screw driver in, flashed a light and its just flat plastic, dont think theres actually an oil adjuster.
Wait so it is actually not a 62cc but 55cc? I thought I'd get it if was a larger 62cc but not now if are lying is only 55cc. I got a Walmart black max 20" 50cc 3yr warranty on sale only $99 .
@@chainsawcanuck that's a bummer. I was looking at the 68cc proyama. but if it is not the actual cc output more like a 50cc I already have one that size and has a 3yr warranty where proyama only 30 day warranty.
This is a clone of a 90s redmax, there are a bunch of brands all the same, supmix, coocher, dreal Salem master.. Etc Parts are readily available on ebay, amazon and aliexpress, I can get a new piston and cylinder for 25$ Canadian delivered to my door
Notable with the Proyama saw that I bought was that there are NO ASSEBLY INSTRUCTIONS even though, in the manual, it says "assembly" in the contents. NO ASSEMBLY INSTRUCTIONS!!! Next, is that the manual says to specifically use the bar and chain oil provided...there isn't any provided! It's hilarious in an "I knew it" sort of way. I could smell gasoline when I sniffed the gas tank so I am pretty sure that they do run them at the factory.
They for sure test them, another brand the supmix on amazon, Same saw different plastic unboxed it pulled on the cord and it fired for a second.. Lol wife wasn't happy was in house. Don't know if mine even had a manual.. Lol but I know the actual displacement of these things is never as advertised mine measured out as 49.3cc which commonly marketed as 52cc or 58cc, it's a bit of a crap shoot.. Lol
Stihl makes good pro saws, their clamshell homeowner saws and not much better tho, like uneven middle number ones, 250 271, 291, 391 etc, I mean those are good but once they are done a lot more expensive to fix compare to the zenoah clones
@@toolsreview7159 the supmix has a little more torque, and is 54.5 cc, the 18/22 proyama is only 49.3 cc, but apart from piston/cylinder and crank mechanically they are Identical, but thr proyama looks nicer, having said that I have the orange supmix sitting in the basement and it has a much nicer fit and finish that the other red supmix
I bought this PROYAMA saw needing a decent limbing saw for a big job i was doing. I honestly didn't expect it to last the whole job as I have always used husqvarna or other brand name saws. I have been truly amazed by this saw and its durability, workmanship, and dependability. I have since used this saw on over 100 tree jobs. It has done everything from limbing to cutting firewood to cutting down trees to milling. I am still using the original chain and bar. The chains that come with it are really aggressive. If you do start to lose power check and clean the air filter. As it gets clogged it will lower the performance but that will happen with all saws. I would highly recommend this saw to anyone. I have told logger friends and tree cutting friends about it and they have purchased some and love the saw.
I ended up buying the Proyama to add to my chainsaw collection addiction. I have ran this a few times and agree with most of what you say, although I am not too pleased with the power, it seems to bog down easily compared to my MS251 and 455 Rancher which both zip through just about anything without bogging down. Assembly of the Proyama was a breeze, it seems to be good quality and chain is very aggressive like you say. Starting it for first time was a bit worrisome until I held throttle and then it fired right up. After the initial starting it has been easy to start just like my Stihls, Husqvarnas & Echos.
I am running 32:1 mix for the first 2 tanks per the manual then I will run 40:1,
My question is do you have any performance issues with ur Proyama bogging down and not having enough power for a so called 62CC.
@@jasonmeharg7899 my chainsaw very powerful
Hi Canuck, I was a Husqvarna dealer for 8 1/2 years. I have seven of them from 40cc to 93cc. I noticed the amp and guitars in the background. I bought ten cheap guitars in the last year, just to see how good they are. Let me tell you, they all are great! I bought a Proforma 70 cc saw last month, just to see if cheap chainsaws would follow suit. I haven't started the Proforma yet. I'll let you know my impressions, if it ever stops raining here in PA. Thanks for posting.😊 Shalom/gw. PS I believe God has talented children everywhere. Given the right conditions, they will produce excellence.
Tried the Proyama today. Nice saw. Ran strong. Only time will tell if it runs long. 😉 Shalom/gw
Gasket is different, i actually cut my own out of gasket paper for all my saws, learned it from Iron Horse. Gasket and oiling holes drilled out a bit bigger will keep the bar oiled good.
Hey 👋 question for you sir...with the air filter on this power saw. Can this filter be used on the supmix pinkway ect ect they are all of the same family? lol I have been trying to come up with a solution for a different kind of filter that comes on them saws. The fines will get around the fine filter that comes on them. Same filter that comes on the new crafsmans. I just ordered the same saw your unboxing in hope that it's filter will also fit my other Zenoah clones... thanks for your time 🙏
Yeah they are all interchangeable, if you look at my other videos there is one doing a filter upgrade on a supmix.. The filter assembly was about 4$ Canadian from aliexpress
@@chainsawcanuck awesome... I thought so! I can't stand the filters that come on them saws! I too have a chainsaw addiction lol and recently added the Zinoa clone saws it!
Thanks brother have a good day
Great video. How did it perform for ya? I just bought one but it will only start run for 2 seconds then die. Any ideas? Im tthinkin fuel delivery problem or bad crank seal? It has lots of compression and spark.
Did you mess with carb setting? Sometimes they are out of adjustments brand new
@@chainsawcanuck yeah it was way outta adjustment and wouldnt start at all so i went in all way and out a turn n half on low and high screws. Now it starts but dies after a second or two. Ive tried making small adjustments to no avail.
Follow up: it ended being a broken low adjustment screw...tip snapped off in carb blocking passage. I attempted to extract but it was too tiny and wedged. I got a replacement carb from Proyama after months wait. Then same thing low screw came snapped amd jammed. I verified this by removing right from brand new before even screwing in any adjustment. So i got fed up and put it on shelf. Then it occurred to me I have an old spare Poulan carb. Carb parts mostly all contactable so i used the new Proyama guts to rebuild the old Poulan Carb and I swapped the fuel pump impulse cover off the Proyama and it fit on the other carb. She fired right up and runs great. Im super happy now. Very loud open muffler with two exit pipes but she screams and quick revver. Ive been enjoying your videos and appreciate the knowledge. One last question for you if you have time. I recall in your videos you saying they are around 50cc despite their claimed size. This one is claimed 68cc 20" and 24" bar. have you ever measured that particular one? Is it also just a 50cc? Thanks for your time.
@@garretgauthier68560cc
I'm actually looking at one of these cells. I think it's a pro yama 68cc with a 24-in bar and chain and I think he comes with a 20-in 3/8.05 eighths wondering what's your thoughts upon you saw as the scene of video of a gentleman that has looks like a tree servicing business and said that this all runs really nice once you kind of break it in after 4 to 5 tanks and says that he does like it as a mid-size saw. Just wanted to buy this as I have an older Husqvarna 61 and don't want to go and spend over 1200 for a saw that's just going to sit around with all this kind of looking at this
Just remember that these generic zenoah clones are never the displacement they claim, like the one in the video is marketed as 62cc its only 49.3cc, the 68cc one is probably only 54.5cc
On Amazon there is a supmix saw that goes on sale often for 159.99 canadian , it's a 54.5cc version and even tho plastics are different mechanically identical to the proyama, except the supmix does not have the performance killing catalytic muffler that the proyama saws have
Went to adjust the oiler at the bottom and i couldent get the screw driver in, flashed a light and its just flat plastic, dont think theres actually an oil adjuster.
Mine has a metal screw, might pull it out today to double check
Wait so it is actually not a 62cc but 55cc? I thought I'd get it if was a larger 62cc but not now if are lying is only 55cc. I got a Walmart black max 20" 50cc 3yr warranty on sale only $99 .
It's very common for the generic zenoah clones to be advertised at higher displacements
@@chainsawcanuck that's a bummer. I was looking at the 68cc proyama. but if it is not the actual cc output more like a 50cc I already have one that size and has a 3yr warranty where proyama only 30 day warranty.
@@dylanowens3173 buying a clone saw right now I think the best bang is the neo-tec ns872, stihl ms381 clone they are pretty solid
thanks for the great video. I just bought one and there were no instructions...........also I want to buy that wall chime clock in the vid.
Lol that was from my grandparents house, I keep meaning to hang it
Just out of curiosity where would you get parts for one never heard of it
This is a clone of a 90s redmax, there are a bunch of brands all the same, supmix, coocher, dreal Salem master.. Etc
Parts are readily available on ebay, amazon and aliexpress, I can get a new piston and cylinder for 25$ Canadian delivered to my door
Notable with the Proyama saw that I bought was that there are NO ASSEBLY INSTRUCTIONS even though, in the manual, it says "assembly" in the contents. NO ASSEMBLY INSTRUCTIONS!!! Next, is that the manual says to specifically use the bar and chain oil provided...there isn't any provided! It's hilarious in an "I knew it" sort of way. I could smell gasoline when I sniffed the gas tank so I am pretty sure that they do run them at the factory.
They for sure test them, another brand the supmix on amazon, Same saw different plastic unboxed it pulled on the cord and it fired for a second.. Lol wife wasn't happy was in house.
Don't know if mine even had a manual.. Lol but I know the actual displacement of these things is never as advertised mine measured out as 49.3cc which commonly marketed as 52cc or 58cc, it's a bit of a crap shoot.. Lol
In china displacement number includes combustion chamber volume.
Well then it's not displacement.. And the cubustion chamber is not 12cc....
@@chainsawcanuck the 2strk bike engines from china I've played with are advertised as 80cc. They measure at 66cc. Being precise is not a priority.
I looked at these but i bought a Stihl
Stihl makes good pro saws, their clamshell homeowner saws and not much better tho, like uneven middle number ones, 250 271, 291, 391 etc, I mean those are good but once they are done a lot more expensive to fix compare to the zenoah clones
thx
And then a steel clone or a Husqvarna phone or echo Chrome
Proyama or Supmix
That's a proyama.. But the supmix is larger displacement bt me measuerments
@@chainsawcanuck which one is the better buy? Proyama with 22”&18” bar or the 20” supmix
@@jasonmeharg7899 I say the supmix is
proyama is better
@@toolsreview7159 the supmix has a little more torque, and is 54.5 cc, the 18/22 proyama is only 49.3 cc, but apart from piston/cylinder and crank mechanically they are Identical, but thr proyama looks nicer, having said that I have the orange supmix sitting in the basement and it has a much nicer fit and finish that the other red supmix