Finding a way forward for rugby union in New Zealand | NZR CEO Mark Robinson on SENZ

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • New Zealand Rugby's voting members gathered for a Special General Meeting last week to vote on a proposed governance reform - in the end, 'Proposal 2' passed by 69 votes to 21.
    This will allow the provincial unions to still have three seats on the board, compared to the failed 'Proposal 1' (voted against by 59 to 31) that would've instated the recommendations made by the Pilkington Report for a fully independent board.
    So, where does that leave rugby union in New Zealand? How will it impact both the professional and amateur levels of the sport?
    NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson joined Scotty Stevenson & Israel Dagg in-studio today on SENZ to discuss what positives there are currently, the provincial unions, how fundamental the NPC is to the game, and more.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 90

  • @erwerwewerwer4575
    @erwerwewerwer4575 3 місяці тому +14

    the dude speaks in marketing buzzwords - no wonder rugby's having problems

  • @ManaBlack208
    @ManaBlack208 3 місяці тому +7

    Spit it out mark why are you stuttering?just resign mate your out of your depth things have turned for the worst since you've taken over👎🖕

  • @BigBoyGames-ke1hq
    @BigBoyGames-ke1hq 3 місяці тому +7

    He keeps waffling about whats to come, instead of having a solid plan about how to improve the organisation. He then has the gall to say "I don't want to ruin the surprise that's soon to be announced",spit it out Mark for goodness sakes.
    He came on and offered absolutely nothing about how they intend to influence and better the organisation. For someone who heads up the organisation I'm concerned how vague he is. There was ample time to have a solid contingency should the vote at he SGM not go their way, it didn't, and now he's left floundering with nothing significant to say to the New Zealand public and provide us a clear strategic plan. He seems like a lost ship, blissfully adrift in the ocean, being swept away with the prevailing current, with not a care in the world. More likely flying business class, 5 star hotels and schmoozing in Michelin starred restaurants.

    • @colinmeehan791
      @colinmeehan791 3 місяці тому +1

      He is a head office boy,says a lot but tells you nothing.NZR is on a treadmill.

    • @tristanmckenzie1623
      @tristanmckenzie1623 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@colinmeehan791well said. The way he speaks its like classic media cliche scripted stuff. He already knows what he's saying before he gets interviews. Circles around everything thrown at him by responding to each question with a lot of words but ultimately no answers given. It's sugar coating of the highest order.. All they care about is the fancy title there job holds and the nice pay packets and the 5 star facilities they get around in for there conferences and what have you.

  • @unfiltered2
    @unfiltered2 3 місяці тому +4

    Robertson and the entire board need to be sacked asap 🎪 too busy worrying about diversity and getting some Frenchman to destroy our jersey ffs 🙄🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @thisarfingai
    @thisarfingai 3 місяці тому +4

    Soundtrack: James Brown - Talkin Loud & Sayin Nothin.

  • @DominicMcCarthydomo
    @DominicMcCarthydomo 3 місяці тому +3

    Persona non grata, total gibberish, not 1 iota of info gleaned.. 14 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

  • @fredkelly6953
    @fredkelly6953 3 місяці тому +1

    The board does not want to bite the bullet and take a hit. They do want to improve the game but not to the detriment of their own positions. It will come to a point where they will have no choice which will take time and money that could have been saved by doing the right thing for the game. These selfish sob's need to go, now!

  • @will_274
    @will_274 3 місяці тому +1

    He doesn’t answer questions. Can’t comment… not for me to comment blah blah. Shady AF

  • @yangtze873
    @yangtze873 3 місяці тому +1

    “It’s not for me to comment on what happened last week?…”
    Said the NZRU CEO 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @inbetweener2000
    @inbetweener2000 3 місяці тому +2

    He's got to be joking, Super Rugby has gone down since the Sth African teams pulled out. The toughness has been lost, adding more Australian teams has weakened Super Rugby for sure. A NZ team will win it 99% each year atm and that's fact. Must be fun travelling around the the world having these little "fun" conversations he waffles on about...🙄

    • @_peepyopee
      @_peepyopee 3 місяці тому +1

      Super Rugby should be positioned as the pacific champions league. Top 4 from AU, NZ and Japan. Performance based. Increased viewership from Japan = increased revenue
      AU and NZ need 8 team domestic conferences played parnell to Suoer Rugby

    • @tristanmckenzie1623
      @tristanmckenzie1623 3 місяці тому

      Totally agree. Even our weakest of NZ teams is generally the Highlanders, where the best of the Australian teams do struggle to beat and the aussie teams are never going to win the comp because unless a team like the brumbies finish first on the ladder to get home advantage right through in the finals. They won't win a comp by beating a kiwi team in New Zealand. They struggle big time in NZ. The South Africans made the comp a tough old battle. Now it's like touch footy. The aussies play too much like us but without the same skill level and clinical edge

  • @davejordan267
    @davejordan267 3 місяці тому +1

    Make NPC the new Super Rugby

  • @mark8200
    @mark8200 3 місяці тому +2

    Super rugby needs more teams or to cut the numbers that can make it to finals.

    • @ManaBlack208
      @ManaBlack208 3 місяці тому

      Not more teams,replace teams, shorten the comp duration only top 6 make playoffs,waratahs need to go,moana need to go force need to go bring in sum new fresh teams

    • @bgreen240
      @bgreen240 3 місяці тому

      I agree Moana needs to go, not the others.

    • @tristanmckenzie1623
      @tristanmckenzie1623 3 місяці тому

      The finals system is a farce. Top 8 out of a 12 team comp is ridiculous. More than half the teams in the comp make finals. Then you get teams like drua etc that are only making the numbers up in there. Crusaders barely won any games and almost made it. Should be a top 6 or top 4

  • @Filistyler
    @Filistyler 3 місяці тому +1

    Living in Oz, haven’t watched super rugby in years, product is boring asf, even with the ABs I’m from the old school where we never missed a test match, might just catch the highlights these days coz the game (rugby) is trash now.

    • @tristanmckenzie1623
      @tristanmckenzie1623 3 місяці тому

      I'm the same. The good old days of the Bledisloe late 90s, early 2000, 2004 era.. They were the test match, brumbies v crusader super rugby finals either in Canberra and chch, rugby was thriving then. Now rugby is too business drawn. Players and coaches can't do anything for themselves now. It's all marketing and TV rights. Not to mention the game of rugby is soft. There's barely 15 players on the park these days with more cards thrown out than a casual game of snap in the living room table. Even league is getting a bit that way but at least you can still understand the rules in that game.

    • @nzfreeski
      @nzfreeski 3 місяці тому

      @@tristanmckenzie1623 league? NZ will love that with the warriors losing 66-10

  • @aar1967
    @aar1967 3 місяці тому +1

    God. This guy never changes. “We’ve got some good things going on”… said Nero, playing his fiddle while Rome burned. I appreciate where Israel is coming from… a dejected, frustrated fan.

  • @_peepyopee
    @_peepyopee 3 місяці тому +1

    Super Rugby should be what the European Champions Cup is for the pacific.
    Top 4 teams from AU, NZ, Japan qualify based on performance every year
    Domestic leagues run parallel to Super Rugby
    8 team domestic leagues for AU and NZ. With NZ keeping the Drua and Pasikfa

    • @BraziwiSteve
      @BraziwiSteve 3 місяці тому +1

      That would be awesome except Japanese top league runs between October and end of May

  • @Gumboot_City_NZ
    @Gumboot_City_NZ 3 місяці тому +1

    Bailey Mackey should've got Marks job!! A youthful, fresh, Māori perspective would've been something different. Old boys club.

    • @goldenchild19
      @goldenchild19 3 місяці тому

      Yes but not cause he’s Maori, because he’s youthful and would come with a fresh mindset. Mark needs to go.

    • @ManaBlack208
      @ManaBlack208 3 місяці тому

      @goldenchild19 Not becoz he's maori?that's exactly why he won't get the job NZRU are a racist bunch of money bludgers

    • @unfiltered2
      @unfiltered2 3 місяці тому

      Bailey is just as woke as the rest of the clowns on the board, he was pushing the jab hard out on his FB page telling everyone to get it and if you wanted to talk about it he would just block you. Remember the young man that died from a heart attack while playing rugby in Gisborne? I wonder if he took Bailey's advice and got the jab because if he did then Bailey has blood on his hands!

  • @kirstenvermeulen311
    @kirstenvermeulen311 28 днів тому

    Go to Turkey for that hair transplant, combo deal for the both of you and Dagg. That receding hairline is embarrassing

  • @michaeljoblin873
    @michaeljoblin873 3 місяці тому

    Hey bud, this is the way forward, I’ll say it again. Bring in the provincial teams into super and make one league super NPC. Invite a couple Australian teams in and over time have Australian littered throughout the teams.
    A lot like kiwis in the NRL.
    Basically our version or the NRL comp. This is the long term view and goal that will work.

  • @jameslovering9158
    @jameslovering9158 3 місяці тому +3

    Body language not good ?

    • @ManaBlack208
      @ManaBlack208 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah exactly bud crossing of arms is a defensive sign closed off body language he's vulnerable and shady

    • @tristanmckenzie1623
      @tristanmckenzie1623 3 місяці тому +1

      ​​​yeah 💯 You could tell Izzy was getting under Robbos skin there a bit. Izzy was shooting straight from the hip, he wasn't missing.. Robbo was trying to laugh it off by trying to play devil's advocate with Izzy by robbo almost smuggly questioning his lack of positivity shall we say in rather choked up guilty laughing manner. The difference was Izzy wasn't joking. Robbo never gave him clear answers of where the money is going. Just rambled on a whole lot of nothing that ultimately lead to nothing of what Izzy asked of him.

  • @goldenchild19
    @goldenchild19 3 місяці тому

    Why tf come on here if you don’t answer questions. Izzy Dagg should of grilled him, I know he really wanted to. Mark talks in riddles like a politician. He really needs to go with the board.

  • @kirstenvermeulen311
    @kirstenvermeulen311 28 днів тому

    Mark Andrews was right, small island mentality

  • @richardanderson7590
    @richardanderson7590 3 місяці тому

    They totally ignored the legends of the game on what they thought no respect

  • @rahdean1562
    @rahdean1562 3 місяці тому

    Did i miss something regarding the silverlakes investment??

  • @dylanlarkins9431
    @dylanlarkins9431 3 місяці тому

    a crazy amount of words to say nothing ????

  • @Marius_vanderLubbe
    @Marius_vanderLubbe 3 місяці тому +3

    'the best super rugby pacific competition in years...' HAHAHAHAHAH.

    • @bgreen240
      @bgreen240 3 місяці тому

      He is right though.

    • @Marius_vanderLubbe
      @Marius_vanderLubbe 3 місяці тому

      @@bgreen240 I don't know how long you have been watching rugby but I have been watching it a very long time and I can tell you without fear nor favour that he is wrong and so are you. The only difference is that he knows he's not being honest. I'm not sure what your angle is.

    • @tristanmckenzie1623
      @tristanmckenzie1623 3 місяці тому

      ​@Marius_vanderLubbe The comp only has probably 5 decent teams in the whole comp, and the majority of them are kiwi teams with the acception of maybe the brumbies. The rest of them are just make shift teams put together to give the comp more matches to play. Super rugby Aotearoa was much better to watch. But super rugby has never been the same since the South African teams have left the comp. It's best days were when it was a super 12 comp, top 4 playoff system. Super 14, top 6, it was still quite strong. Then slowly but surely Super rugby had lost its way when they added the sun wolves, jaguares and year by year the comp just had too many mis matches. It's a shambles now the comp

    • @ManaBlack208
      @ManaBlack208 3 місяці тому

      @@Marius_vanderLubbe Not if your crufaders fans it was the worst of course aye lubbey🤣

    • @Marius_vanderLubbe
      @Marius_vanderLubbe 3 місяці тому +1

      @@tristanmckenzie1623 Yes, you are right. If anybody watching those quarter finals just played with 20 point spreads think that is great rugby - they are deluded.

  • @SioneDunk
    @SioneDunk 3 місяці тому

    Lots of buzzy buzzy talk Mr CEO

  • @michaelmoynihan9591
    @michaelmoynihan9591 3 місяці тому +1

    Hahahahahahaha kiwi rugby is dying😂😂😂😂

  • @Patrick8804
    @Patrick8804 3 місяці тому

    The Art of the Grift

  • @rahdean1562
    @rahdean1562 3 місяці тому

    He deflecting

  • @morererecords
    @morererecords 3 місяці тому

    This guy should become a politician, ultimate customer service rep . Can say a million things without saying anything

  • @paullaurenson5109
    @paullaurenson5109 3 місяці тому

    Basically he's saying how can we copy the NRL business and fan engagement model

  • @paulneal102
    @paulneal102 3 місяці тому

    omg what a load of drivel. If he's the El Capitan the games in big trouble

  • @darrenandrews1979
    @darrenandrews1979 3 місяці тому

    Complete waste of time interview. Speaks in circles.

  • @kienwoof
    @kienwoof 3 місяці тому

    Delusional, and believing his own narrative

  • @deanhubbard2846
    @deanhubbard2846 3 місяці тому

    What a load of bullocks.....

  • @comment1984
    @comment1984 3 місяці тому +2

    The problem is league is better.

    • @AK-wc9rl
      @AK-wc9rl 3 місяці тому +6

      If you like 5 hit ups and kick. It puts me to sleep personally.

    • @KRM85
      @KRM85 3 місяці тому

      @@AK-wc9rlthe NRL has more money than NZR. NRL games sell out but super Rugby doesn't. The women's state of origin had a bigger crowd than super Rugby lol. The players get paid more than your rugby players lol. The NRL is working in the background at grass roots level slowly taking territory lolz. The end is near.

    • @Revelation14315
      @Revelation14315 3 місяці тому

      ​@@KRM85never. All Black still number 1 in this country

    • @Revelation14315
      @Revelation14315 3 місяці тому

      ​@@KRM85the end is near , common youre joking right 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Revelation14315
      @Revelation14315 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@AK-wc9 yeah boring