Yeah, if they could afford to go the street dudes would like more thsn meaningless IR hook ups, being used for a racial fetish by slu or washu women. Now a days those girls are more able to bring the legal weed since we had dispensaries in about every neighborhood. One is even across the street from washu's bjc clinic with the white woman doctor don't want to help black dudes unless they are hirny street dudes that call the rest slurs.
I graduated college with a degree in Finance and can reflect on my decision and concluded that college in most situations are a waste of time. I would have been better off working an entry level job like a teller or admin for a financial advisor and gained the experience while saving to get the position I have today. College is only useful for certain jobs like engineering, medical, and some government professions that require a degree but for everything else in between you are better off starting entry level and maybe earn specialized certificates in your field.
I was about to disagree with you until you put engineering and medical - I have been in engineering for 10 years with a lucrative career so far and getting jobs comes easy even in 2023
My parents didn't graduate from high school, so college was never for me....till I had low pay jobs. College was good, but so expensive.Then, masters degree...but it wasvworth every cent for my soul.
The loan system has people paying off interest for decades after they've paid the principle. Congress has to address this. Not everyone needs a four year degree to be successful. Two years or specialized training in the trades is needed. The unions used to have the best apprentice programs.
Spot on. The terms of many college loans are notoriously PREDATORY having the person pay mountains of interest and fees before paying off the principal. This makes these people slaves to the banks, and keeps them from buying homes, cars, or getting married and raising families years after they've graduated. And this is why many young people are opting for apprenticeships, enrolling in trade technical schools, or just entering the workforce. There is now a backlash against colleges, universities, their tuitions, and the banks that finance those tuitions.
90% of college grads will retire from a field they didn't study for in college. Somewhere around 40% of employed college grads are working in fields that don't require a college degree. Other than nurses, doctors, engineers, etc that require advanced training, college is mostly a waste of time. We all know people who are in their 40s who are still paying off student loans and will be for some time. 20-plus years to pay off four years? Not worth it. And everyone is seeing that now.
The jobs in the blue collar sector are paying far more than they used to. Truck drivers are making 100K a year and skilled labor like carpenters, mechanics, heating and air etc. are making very good salaries. I think more people should go this route than get a useless social science degree and be in debt with 100k in school loans.
No kidding. I just graduated with a Masters in Mechanical Engineering and I'm paycheck to paycheck trying to afford a house while paying off my debt. Looking at some of my friends, I was better off trying to start my life 8 years ago without going to college so I could have all the things they do. Family, house, new car, etc. Nope, not me.
A bachelors' degree is worthless without experience or industry credentials. So no, a degree on it's own isn't going to help. You need a degree PLUS validated experience.
If you want to be a doctor, engineer, teacher, attorney, researcher, accountant, etc... Or you're rich... Go to college. If you're not rich, and you don't want to do any of those things, don't go to college! Those fields I mentioned skew the average earnings of every other college graduate career. You're better off just following a passion, or getting a job and working your way up, any other way that you can.
The cost is too damn high! You go to college and then youre financially ruined when now you can go get a trade IE electrician, mechanic, HVAC etc and make just as much
I graduated with a ba in geography from a california university. The first thing I knew something wasn't right was when the professors told us we needed to take prerequisite courses because employers were complaining that students graduating from college didn't know anything. This is insulting to the high school teachers, along with those who just graduated from high school. As if they didn't have any books to read to learn things about the world back then. I knew this had to be a lie because I never heard of this problem outside of a university or college. Also why is it that no one ever asks what you learned outside whatever your major is. When I graduated nobody ever asked me what I learned from anything I took in my major or my prerequisite courses. When I started working for different companies in the office field, they taught me what I needed to know within a few hours or up to a week. I did not need what I learned in a university. I did not need it for the work I was doing. So I basically wasted four years. It was about twelve hundred to sixteen hundred a semester back then to attend a university when I went. It is likely about ten thousand right now. The professors are not smarter then you. Do not put them on some higher level as if they know more then you ever will. They are just as flawed as your average human. Had I invested in technology stocks back then rather then putting it in a university, I would have been far better off then I could ever imagine today. I was lucky to just pay my loans also, rather then relying on student loans. That is another subject that is never discussed in the news media in regard to why they won't pay us back, for those that did not rely on student loans. It was just as hard for us to pay immediately then those who paid on a student loan also.
I went to nursing school for LVN and and as I almost done with school in the end finished all my savings that my parents had to let me borrow money and then I thought financial aid will cover half but no I have to pay another $16,000 to financial aid after done with school 🤦🏻♀️and in order to take the state l exam to get my license but cost $500 every time I don’t pass 😢but once u pass you end up spending in total of $1,000 for them to give the results and if pass to pay for your ID
A university degree is expensive and, unlike 40 years ago when I went to college, there are scant academic fellowships available (those foundations have long since run out of money and shut down) which in the past contributed greatly to the financing of one's education. Also, I attended grad school in Canada, which ONLY offers academic fellowships, not athetics-related ones. Something not mentioned either in this video or the comments below is the simple fact that college improves one's knowledge of culture, the arts, languages, social science and the hard sciences. It offers a space for students to take their time and acquire both knowledge AND learning, as well as exposuere to new and often contradictory ideas/ideals--thus encouraging critical thinking. I wish American citizens weren't so happy with and even PROUD OF their ignorance. It's embarrassing.
I usually agree with you, however I studied Spanish, Photography, and sociology. I use Spanish and photography daily. Then a masters in Ecological design and I work in that field.
A bachelors degree from a state university is just fine because it can help you get your foot in the door for an interview. Plus if you don’t have work experience you can rely on your grades and school work to demonstrate skills like Microsoft Office, good communication, writing abilities, etc.
I have 4 kids who all got degrees, none of whom work in their fields and none of whom are making living wages and are paying back ridiculous student loans. (I remember writing a check for my tuition that was less than 200 dollars many years ago). They are angry at us for insisting that a degree was needed to get a good job. Add to that the prohibitive cost of tuition and I'm surprised colleges can get anyone to enroll.
Not anymore even with years of experience when the economy gets bad those companies use degrees to filter people out. If you are really intelligent you may be able to get through but most of those companies on average hire college graduates even when they brag about not requiring one.
Its a bang for your buck issue. The cost of college is going up every year to the point where even if you land a good job after you get a degree it will be YEARS before you come close to paying it off. Also the value of the degrees have gone down due to the fact the so many people have them. The reason I went to college was to be able to get a job that paid a living wage. For better or for worse simply having a degree regardless if its in a useful field allows you access to jobs that otherwise would not consider you.
Go to Community College and get a 2-year healthcare degree. Fields such as Nursing and Dental Hygiene (and others) always have jobs waiting for them, and these days are earning up to six-figures.
if you require a PhD to flip burgers... The problem is that TRADES are seen as, dirty. And that is really bad because I am with Mike Row, tradespeople are important. They do very important jobs, yes it is a bit dirty, fun fact it also pays decently. Because who else is going to do it! More people going into TRADES would definitely help things. Also fun fact, choose right and you end up with a job, no to low debts, tools etc...
In my family, family members with no college education or degree make BIG BUCKS living the good life. The one's with four years of college education or more make much less than those without and seem miserable, no lie.
Many young people no longer see a college degree as worth the Return of Investment given the time and money spent to obtain one. A significant amount of college graduates are finding themselves underemployed or unemployed while mired in perpetual debt often with predatory terms. This has created a backlash against colleges and universities at a time when the pool of potential students is shrinking, and more young people are opting for apprenticeships, enrolling in cheaper trade technical schools, or simply entering the workforce. Look for many smaller, regional colleges and universities to close their doors permanently from lack of students.
Well, you spent fifty years flooding the market with degrees and you have a glut. Plus the price of education in general is out of control. Have anyone price four years high school at a Catholic institution?
Only if you want to be an engineer, lawyer, and Doctor is college worth it!!!! any other major it not worth the money your just making business for the government.
I think it just depends a on what you want you want to do with your life. college is expensive and it’s not worth it sometimes. Trades are never going out of style.
kids, everything you need to know to work at your McDonald's future you learned in kindergarten. the purpose of college is to learn to talk like Larry Summers.
If you're going to be an accountant or an engineer or a doctor then a college degree makes sense. However a lot of kids end up getting liberal arts degrees which really aren't worth it especially if they end up having a loan that they can't pay off because the jobs they can get with a liberal arts degree don't pay very much.
A tax accountant asked me if I had a calculator. She said she wasn’t very good at math. My recommendation at work was that we have writing and math test for potential candidates.
I think a college degree is still valuable as long as you choose the right major like CS, Cyber Security, nursing, and engineering degrees. If you and your parents don't have a lot of money, attend an in-state university or go to a community college for the first 2 years and transfer to a 4-year university. If you don't like studying then college is not for you. It's better to go get a job and work your way up.
Community college is free in my state and I would say this is the only education worth the time after high school. But I still got a BA after anyway. 😂
@@alanbailey5621you can’t even follow the news story, they said higher education is declining. The dumbing down of America by democrats. Your a real life example.
So, you spend $100,00 - $200,00 for college and when you graduate, ask yourself this question, "What job am I get at"? If you're not going to college to become a doctor, you'll find yourself taking a job with a company and being trained by a person that "did not go to college". You could have 12 months in a "trade school" and when you graduated, you can actually perform a task. for many, it's a waste to time and money.
These surveys are not worth a @$%#. The real reason college isn't as popular is because of the COST ! HELLO !
Yeah, if they could afford to go the street dudes would like more thsn meaningless IR hook ups, being used for a racial fetish by slu or washu women. Now a days those girls are more able to bring the legal weed since we had dispensaries in about every neighborhood. One is even across the street from washu's bjc clinic with the white woman doctor don't want to help black dudes unless they are hirny street dudes that call the rest slurs.
I graduated college with a degree in Finance and can reflect on my decision and concluded that college in most situations are a waste of time. I would have been better off working an entry level job like a teller or admin for a financial advisor and gained the experience while saving to get the position I have today. College is only useful for certain jobs like engineering, medical, and some government professions that require a degree but for everything else in between you are better off starting entry level and maybe earn specialized certificates in your field.
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I was about to disagree with you until you put engineering and medical - I have been in engineering for 10 years with a lucrative career so far and getting jobs comes easy even in 2023
@@engineered-mindwhich engineering field
My parents argue that they will never support their kids going to college because their parents didn’t support them going to college.
They are partly right. They didnt need the help because it was much much cheaper 40 years ago.
My parents didn't graduate from high school, so college was never for me....till I had low pay jobs. College was good, but so expensive.Then, masters degree...but it wasvworth every cent for my soul.
Huh?
The loan system has people paying off interest for decades after they've paid the principle. Congress has to address this. Not everyone needs a four year degree to be successful. Two years or specialized training in the trades is needed. The unions used to have the best apprentice programs.
Women are not applying for trade school.
@@bngr_bngr My plumber is a woman. She's good too.
People being anti union continues to bite this country.
Spot on. The terms of many college loans are notoriously PREDATORY having the person pay mountains of interest and fees before paying off the principal. This makes these people slaves to the banks, and keeps them from buying homes, cars, or getting married and raising families years after they've graduated. And this is why many young people are opting for apprenticeships, enrolling in trade technical schools, or just entering the workforce. There is now a backlash against colleges, universities, their tuitions, and the banks that finance those tuitions.
Healthcare & college 💰💰💰 financial segregation or debt slavery?
90% of college grads will retire from a field they didn't study for in college. Somewhere around 40% of employed college grads are working in fields that don't require a college degree. Other than nurses, doctors, engineers, etc that require advanced training, college is mostly a waste of time. We all know people who are in their 40s who are still paying off student loans and will be for some time. 20-plus years to pay off four years? Not worth it. And everyone is seeing that now.
My kid won't go back because of mandates.
What mandates?
@@bngr_bngr they had to take shots last year or get kicked out.
@@jenniferbombard8211 most schools do require vaccinations.
@@bngr_bngr not COVID SHOT. She was forced
@@jenniferbombard8211 didn’t she get childhood vaccinations? I’m sure she was forced then.
The jobs in the blue collar sector are paying far more than they used to. Truck drivers are making 100K a year and skilled labor like carpenters, mechanics, heating and air etc. are making very good salaries. I think more people should go this route than get a useless social science degree and be in debt with 100k in school loans.
No kidding. I just graduated with a Masters in Mechanical Engineering and I'm paycheck to paycheck trying to afford a house while paying off my debt. Looking at some of my friends, I was better off trying to start my life 8 years ago without going to college so I could have all the things they do. Family, house, new car, etc. Nope, not me.
Highchool only and i already have my house paid off new car paid off money on retirement aaccount, i guess college is not for everybody
A bachelors' degree is worthless without experience or industry credentials. So no, a degree on it's own isn't going to help. You need a degree PLUS validated experience.
You can’t get experience without a degree…
This is where internships come in. But in many cases, it's becoming harder to get one. especially depending on the "field of study."
If you want to be a doctor, engineer, teacher, attorney, researcher, accountant, etc... Or you're rich... Go to college. If you're not rich, and you don't want to do any of those things, don't go to college! Those fields I mentioned skew the average earnings of every other college graduate career. You're better off just following a passion, or getting a job and working your way up, any other way that you can.
At my work even the receptionist needs a Bachelors degree.
Vocational schools are amazing. You can get trained in an actual profession without a college degree
College only makes sense if the employer offers to pay the tuition.
The cost is too damn high! You go to college and then youre financially ruined when now you can go get a trade IE electrician, mechanic, HVAC etc and make just as much
This is our chance to bring the system down let's do it people we got this 🎉
I graduated with a ba in geography from a california university. The first thing I knew something wasn't right was when the professors told us we needed to take prerequisite courses because employers were complaining that students graduating from college didn't know anything. This is insulting to the high school teachers, along with those who just graduated from high school. As if they didn't have any books to read to learn things about the world back then. I knew this had to be a lie because I never heard of this problem outside of a university or college. Also why is it that no one ever asks what you learned outside whatever your major is. When I graduated nobody ever asked me what I learned from anything I took in my major or my prerequisite courses. When I started working for different companies in the office field, they taught me what I needed to know within a few hours or up to a week. I did not need what I learned in a university. I did not need it for the work I was doing. So I basically wasted four years. It was about twelve hundred to sixteen hundred a semester back then to attend a university when I went. It is likely about ten thousand right now. The professors are not smarter then you. Do not put them on some higher level as if they know more then you ever will. They are just as flawed as your average human. Had I invested in technology stocks back then rather then putting it in a university, I would have been far better off then I could ever imagine today. I was lucky to just pay my loans also, rather then relying on student loans. That is another subject that is never discussed in the news media in regard to why they won't pay us back, for those that did not rely on student loans. It was just as hard for us to pay immediately then those who paid on a student loan also.
I went to nursing school for LVN and and as I almost done with school in the end finished all my savings that my parents had to let me borrow money and then I thought financial aid will cover half but no I have to pay another $16,000 to financial aid after done with school 🤦🏻♀️and in order to take the state l exam to get my license but cost $500 every time I don’t pass 😢but once u pass you end up spending in total of $1,000 for them to give the results and if pass to pay for your ID
Hospitals are paying $120k plus bonuses.
A university degree is expensive and, unlike 40 years ago when I went to college, there are scant academic fellowships available (those foundations have long since run out of money and shut down) which in the past contributed greatly to the financing of one's education. Also, I attended grad school in Canada, which ONLY offers academic fellowships, not athetics-related ones. Something not mentioned either in this video or the comments below is the simple fact that college improves one's knowledge of culture, the arts, languages, social science and the hard sciences. It offers a space for students to take their time and acquire both knowledge AND learning, as well as exposuere to new and often contradictory ideas/ideals--thus encouraging critical thinking.
I wish American citizens weren't so happy with and even PROUD OF their ignorance. It's embarrassing.
It's not about the adults who support it. The prospective employers are the ones that matter.
College is worth it if you get a STEM or Business degree. But not for the fluffy stuff like English, marketing, communications, womens' studies, etc.
RIGHT!!!
I usually agree with you, however I studied Spanish, Photography, and sociology. I use Spanish and photography daily. Then a masters in Ecological design and I work in that field.
Did they get the memo that it’s full of student debt and professionals don’t get paid enough.
That's because when you get your education, you go into major DEBT. DEBT DEBT DEBT.
Who cares just go right into your career. No need for a degree.
A bachelors degree from a state university is just fine because it can help you get your foot in the door for an interview. Plus if you don’t have work experience you can rely on your grades and school work to demonstrate skills like Microsoft Office, good communication, writing abilities, etc.
I have 4 kids who all got degrees, none of whom work in their fields and none of whom are making living wages and are paying back ridiculous student loans. (I remember writing a check for my tuition that was less than 200 dollars many years ago). They are angry at us for insisting that a degree was needed to get a good job. Add to that the prohibitive cost of tuition and I'm surprised colleges can get anyone to enroll.
Colleges in california are starting to see a drop in enrollment. The younger generations aren’t falling for the college scam anymore.
Look at the IT field. A certification is better than a degree!
That’s not true. I work at Sony, we don’t hire people with no degrees.
@@bngr_bngr have you heard of Cisco and CompTIA?
Not anymore even with years of experience when the economy gets bad those companies use degrees to filter people out. If you are really intelligent you may be able to get through but most of those companies on average hire college graduates even when they brag about not requiring one.
@@ethnanmena6290 what’s your point?
@@ethnanmena6290💯 Exactly. There are many companies with various requirements...HP too
Minimum Wage $20/hour
Why wastes time n owe student loan $$$
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Its a bang for your buck issue.
The cost of college is going up every year to the point where even if you land a good job after you get a degree it will be YEARS before you come close to paying it off.
Also the value of the degrees have gone down due to the fact the so many people have them.
The reason I went to college was to be able to get a job that paid a living wage.
For better or for worse simply having a degree regardless if its in a useful field allows you access to jobs that otherwise would not consider you.
Go to Community College and get a 2-year healthcare degree. Fields such as Nursing and Dental Hygiene (and others) always have jobs waiting for them, and these days are earning up to six-figures.
if you require a PhD to flip burgers...
The problem is that TRADES are seen as, dirty. And that is really bad because I am with Mike Row, tradespeople are important. They do very important jobs, yes it is a bit dirty, fun fact it also pays decently. Because who else is going to do it!
More people going into TRADES would definitely help things. Also fun fact, choose right and you end up with a job, no to low debts, tools etc...
Does trade school count as college? That's where the real value in formal post-high school education is.
In my family, family members with no college education or degree make BIG BUCKS living the good life. The one's with four years of college education or more make much less than those without and seem miserable, no lie.
It’s time for trade or technical schools. It’s free and you can make a 6 figure salary easily
Most people in trades don’t make 6 figures. But you can make a decent living without a ton of student debt.
@@spreadgoodenergy6051 plumber and electrician make 6 numbers
THey are not free. Not at all.
@yosemite735 it's free and you get paid for attending it
@@yosemite735much cheaper than college
Many young people no longer see a college degree as worth the Return of Investment given the time and money spent to obtain one. A significant amount of college graduates are finding themselves underemployed or unemployed while mired in perpetual debt often with predatory terms. This has created a backlash against colleges and universities at a time when the pool of potential students is shrinking, and more young people are opting for apprenticeships, enrolling in cheaper trade technical schools, or simply entering the workforce. Look for many smaller, regional colleges and universities to close their doors permanently from lack of students.
Well, you spent fifty years flooding the market with degrees and you have a glut. Plus the price of education in general is out of control. Have anyone price four years high school at a Catholic institution?
The middle class can’t afford it. Especially if your child doesn’t qualify for a scholarship.
Only if you want to be an engineer, lawyer, and Doctor is college worth it!!!! any other major it not worth the money your just making business for the government.
I think it just depends a on what you want you want to do with your life. college is expensive and it’s not worth it sometimes. Trades are never going out of style.
The rich will be richer than. 40 k for a college degree is still an outstanding investment
kids, everything you need to know to work at your McDonald's future you learned in kindergarten. the purpose of college is to learn to talk like Larry Summers.
who needs a professor to spout the banalities of this video?
If you're going to be an accountant or an engineer or a doctor then a college degree makes sense. However a lot of kids end up getting liberal arts degrees which really aren't worth it especially if they end up having a loan that they can't pay off because the jobs they can get with a liberal arts degree don't pay very much.
You don't even know what a liberal arts degree (hint those are for teachers who have no other interests) is.
I Shouldn’t have to take a course that’s not needed in my profession
A tax accountant asked me if I had a calculator. She said she wasn’t very good at math. My recommendation at work was that we have writing and math test for potential candidates.
Then you want trade school and not college. Off you go.
Yes...abolish high school...APPRENTICESHIPs for ALL ...
I think a college degree is still valuable as long as you choose the right major like CS, Cyber Security, nursing, and engineering degrees. If you and your parents don't have a lot of money, attend an in-state university or go to a community college for the first 2 years and transfer to a 4-year university. If you don't like studying then college is not for you. It's better to go get a job and work your way up.
Education has become so commercialized they are handing out PhD's like candy for entry level positions greatly diminishing their value.
Going to college is only worth it if you want to become a doctor, nurse, engineer, or lawyer.
in California, A lot of the money goes to a top heavy administration, most of the teachers are part time.
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Community college is free in my state and I would say this is the only education worth the time after high school. But I still got a BA after anyway. 😂
Just become a youtuber
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Yes, under Biden we will move more towards supporting education, not discouraging it.
@@alanbailey5621 Clearly says decline in supporting education.
What was the last thing the Republicans did foe education?@@nightstorm9872
@@alanbailey5621you can’t even follow the news story, they said higher education is declining. The dumbing down of America by democrats. Your a real life example.
It's happening due to the economy. Not because of one president
So, you spend $100,00 - $200,00 for college and when you graduate, ask yourself this question, "What job am I get at"? If you're not going to college to become a doctor, you'll find yourself taking a job with a company and being trained by a person that "did not go to college". You could have 12 months in a "trade school" and when you graduated, you can actually perform a task. for many, it's a waste to time and money.
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