Keep saying we don't understand. GTHOH. Fat Joe lied and that's the issue and we not going for it period. Ain't nobody.claiming salsa. Blacks created hip hop period. And rnb
You don't know WTF your talking about . Tariq went to the original source and you debating. How tf you so sure about what fat Joe was saying. But not the history
@2:32:00.... That cat is emphatically wrong... Cali people in no way shape form & fashion look up to NY people... Not at all.... He sound like a 🤡 for even saying some silly shtt like that..
You kept saying kool herc, kool herc already said he didn’t have his Jamaican culture and that he got everything he knows from black Americans and his idol is James brown kool herc didn’t create hip hop this is well documented.
I was on the panel...look i got a great deal of respect for Capt.. thats rare for me...But for some reason, he refused to accept the facts...and even when we finally broke through. He switched up to FBA not owning HIP HOP...or no one wins. I had one more great point but my battery died on my phone.
@Black-k3o4s I do nothing but stand with them but I also don't have to lie either... As I said black people started hip hop... Latinos and Caribbeans came and built too
@tazaryach But Capt, how did he exposed the FBA movement...understand the movement came about because of the pursuit for reparations. See we are one of the people to not be compensated for the crimes committed against us. It's said one of the major reasons is that how can they identify whose who. Because Jamaicans and Africans etc will jump in and say im black, where's mine. So we now drawing a line saying for this...FBA only. This was the purpose of FBA. The HIP HOP issue came about because of the things you heard today. They...meaning those outside FBA started openly rewriting history. So microphone check dropped. Executive produced my Kyre Erving. They didn't like that and started attacking. We just setting the record straight with factz. And the disrespect Joe showed is whats happening. This is how they are acting. But Capt, you made it sound like we attacking them or kicking them out or taking something from them. If we don't stand up for ourselves on this. 20 30yrs...They will be saying Fat Joe the Godfather of hip hop.
You hurt me with this one Capt, my brother a Christian, we darn near went blows over your teaching and things. He called my mom on. So I be representing...plus I'm from Big Jersey. But man Capt...you let us down on this one. I dont think he exposed anything with FBA. I think he exposed how alot of them really feel about blacks in they heart. Thats what we think.
The term hiphop was first used in 1979 with the sugar hill gang. Before then no one heard or called a culture that existed since the 1920's. If you saying you started the culture of sampling or stealing others intellectual property and infusing it with rap then you got it. But again rap already existed and those break beat had to exist for you to steal it. All rap songs don't have loop samples. Would that still be considered hiphop? No one is spinning on there back hopping up spraying graffiti on the wall standing in their b boy stance talking 5 percenter talk with all the elements you all call hiphop. If what you say is hiphop then hip-hop been dead.
They would not even notice he was Caribbean says alot, we would had thought he was BLACK or FBA give the credit the awards the everything it’s the Jacob and esu fight one brother gets the promise and the other gets no recognition
Uncle Luke a lying tether too. 2 others guys was the rappers Carribean democrat shield tether Luke with 0 talent rode on their wave. Luke is just a leech. To your point, there are alot of southern rappers being way to quiet for me.
I can't believe nobody mentions women like Lisa Lisa The Rock steady Crew and all the Latinos that where responsible for more than half of the music we break dancing to and half of the breakdance moves if you watch an old video from 1983 most of the break dancers are Latino and the DJ cutting the record is black I don't know about y'all but hip hop wouldn't be the same for me without Latino influence fat Joe brought your big pun you forgot about that one
BLACK AMERICANS WERE BREAKING IN THE EARLY 70S AND A LITTLE FAR BACK YOU JUST LIED BECAUSE BLACK AMERICANS ESTABLISHED ALL MUSIC EVERYONE ELSE IS A STUDENT
LATINOS FIDNT BRING NOTHING TO HIP HOP WHEN THEY WERE RACIST WALKED AROUND WITH NAZI SIGNS AND CALLED IT JUNGLE MUSIC . THEY SET ON THE FENCE WATCHING US BLACK AMERICANS AND THEN WERE TAUGHT BY BLACK AMERICANS THEY ARE NOT THE CREATORS . THE JAMAICANS PIONEER MUSICIANS ADMITTED THAT THEY COPIED BLACK AMERICANS AND COPIED BLACK AMERICAN REGGAE AND WERE TAUGHT BY BLACK AMERICANS SO STOP LYING . THERE WERE BLACK AMERICANS RAPPING OVER BEATS IN THE 40S AND 60S 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂 STOP THE CAP
53:38 Cap trying to save them like a christian 😂
capt you are 100% wrong on this one, and the truth has spoken. capt you are a caribean.
no he not. yall butt hurt about nothing😂
Keep saying we don't understand. GTHOH. Fat Joe lied and that's the issue and we not going for it period. Ain't nobody.claiming salsa. Blacks created hip hop period. And rnb
You don't know WTF your talking about . Tariq went to the original source and you debating. How tf you so sure about what fat Joe was saying. But not the history
No I'm not
But no one can deny Caribbeans and Latinos were there
THIS DUDE STRAIGHT UP LIED EVERY SINCE THE MICROPHONE CHECK DOCUMENTARY DROPPED NOW EVERYONE IS MAD AND ANGRY SHOWING THEIR HATRED
@@tazaryachCOOL HERC ADMITTED HE WAS TAUGHT BY BLACK AMERICANS AND PICKED UP OUR SWAG AND PEOPLE CAN GO IN THE STREETS AND DO HIP HOP SO PLEASE
@@tazaryachWhat part of they didn’t create no part of our culture is so hard to understand?
you are emphatically wrong and its funny😂
@2:32:00.... That cat is emphatically wrong... Cali people in no way shape form & fashion look up to NY people... Not at all.... He sound like a 🤡 for even saying some silly shtt like that..
They called it Moreno Music. Lot of fronting going on
You kept saying kool herc, kool herc already said he didn’t have his Jamaican culture and that he got everything he knows from black Americans and his idol is James brown kool herc didn’t create hip hop this is well documented.
I was on the panel...look i got a great deal of respect for Capt.. thats rare for me...But for some reason, he refused to accept the facts...and even when we finally broke through. He switched up to FBA not owning HIP HOP...or no one wins. I had one more great point but my battery died on my phone.
I did not switch that was my reason for making the title
You showed every black American you not standing with black Americans@@tazaryach
@Black-k3o4s I do nothing but stand with them but I also don't have to lie either... As I said black people started hip hop... Latinos and Caribbeans came and built too
@tazaryach But Capt, how did he exposed the FBA movement...understand the movement came about because of the pursuit for reparations.
See we are one of the people to not be compensated for the crimes committed against us. It's said one of the major reasons is that how can they identify whose who. Because Jamaicans and Africans etc will jump in and say im black, where's mine. So we now drawing a line saying for this...FBA only. This was the purpose of FBA.
The HIP HOP issue came about because of the things you heard today. They...meaning those outside FBA started openly rewriting history. So microphone check dropped. Executive produced my Kyre Erving. They didn't like that and started attacking. We just setting the record straight with factz. And the disrespect Joe showed is whats happening. This is how they are acting. But Capt, you made it sound like we attacking them or kicking them out or taking something from them.
If we don't stand up for ourselves on this. 20 30yrs...They will be saying Fat Joe the Godfather of hip hop.
You hurt me with this one Capt, my brother a Christian, we darn near went blows over your teaching and things. He called my mom on. So I be representing...plus I'm from Big Jersey. But man Capt...you let us down on this one.
I dont think he exposed anything with FBA. I think he exposed how alot of them really feel about blacks in they heart. Thats what we think.
The term hiphop was first used in 1979 with the sugar hill gang. Before then no one heard or called a culture that existed since the 1920's. If you saying you started the culture of sampling or stealing others intellectual property and infusing it with rap then you got it. But again rap already existed and those break beat had to exist for you to steal it. All rap songs don't have loop samples. Would that still be considered hiphop? No one is spinning on there back hopping up spraying graffiti on the wall standing in their b boy stance talking 5 percenter talk with all the elements you all call hiphop. If what you say is hiphop then hip-hop been dead.
Bad title !! What weak you know of.
These Hebrews are against black Americans
Tazaryach, you are acting like you do not know.
i like the intro
Joe said we were there in the beginning that part of it is true but maybe like 4 years later but for sure in the beginning in the over all time line
They would not even notice he was Caribbean says alot, we would had thought he was BLACK or FBA give the credit the awards the everything it’s the Jacob and esu fight one brother gets the promise and the other gets no recognition
Uncle Luke in Florida was doing this shyt b4 New York and we in Florida have the most diverse culture
Uncle Luke a lying tether too. 2 others guys was the rappers Carribean democrat shield tether Luke with 0 talent rode on their wave. Luke is just a leech.
To your point, there are alot of southern rappers being way to quiet for me.
Beats being a republican shield@@CopperK
Dr Colons documentary already debunked tariq nashids microphone check doc
Tazaryach got cooked 2 days in a row lol and also, once again... that was not Tariq in the last live... that was a fake account.
Stop lying to yourself. The Cap cooks EVERYONE . he's literally undefeated
It's not a debate😅😅
@@FunnyLaughVideosHE WILL LOSE AGAINST TARIQ AMD THE MICROPHONE MOVIE DESTROYS TAZ HE A LIAR
I can't believe nobody mentions women like Lisa Lisa The Rock steady Crew and all the Latinos that where responsible for more than half of the music we break dancing to and half of the breakdance moves if you watch an old video from 1983 most of the break dancers are Latino and the DJ cutting the record is black I don't know about y'all but hip hop wouldn't be the same for me without Latino influence fat Joe brought your big pun you forgot about that one
🧢 Latinos didn’t influence nothing in hip hop stop lying to yourself
BLACK AMERICANS WERE BREAKING IN THE EARLY 70S AND A LITTLE FAR BACK YOU JUST LIED BECAUSE BLACK AMERICANS ESTABLISHED ALL MUSIC EVERYONE ELSE IS A STUDENT
LATINOS FIDNT BRING NOTHING TO HIP HOP WHEN THEY WERE RACIST WALKED AROUND WITH NAZI SIGNS AND CALLED IT JUNGLE MUSIC . THEY SET ON THE FENCE WATCHING US BLACK AMERICANS AND THEN WERE TAUGHT BY BLACK AMERICANS THEY ARE NOT THE CREATORS . THE JAMAICANS PIONEER MUSICIANS ADMITTED THAT THEY COPIED BLACK AMERICANS AND COPIED BLACK AMERICAN REGGAE AND WERE TAUGHT BY BLACK AMERICANS SO STOP LYING . THERE WERE BLACK AMERICANS RAPPING OVER BEATS IN THE 40S AND 60S 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂 STOP THE CAP
Yes they have taken part, some earlier than others, but they did not create this thing of ours.
Then you missed the entire point of the debate. The entire thing.