@@steve8803unfortunately people in most of cases are not aware of the advantages of Subaru at first glance . Moreover majority people driving skills are so poor that’s why they can see the capacity of the car in terms of driving in the corners and bad conditions 🤷🏻 rav4 as a package is worst then forester . However rav4 is a good car 👍
Lo que explica su volumen de ventas no es su calidad como tiene Subaru, es su precio y si durabilidad pero no es mejor que Subaru para nada y miles de usuarios que han tenido ambos te lo pueden decir . Es más te lo resumo , Subaru es para quien lo tiene todo y no le interesa aparentar nada . Por eso su nicho es para conocedores y apreciadores de autos de verdad.@@steve8803
Stephen, you make an excellent point about Subaru focusing on improving what already works for their customers (like Toyota historically did), rather than going for radical change ever new design cycle. My wife has a 2020 Forester Premium - she loves it and is now hinting she'd like an upgrade to the new 2025 Forester Limited or Touring. We'll wait for the new hybrid engine to see its performance numbers and pricing later this year before purchasing. Thanks for helping me realize that Subaru's somewhat conservative approach to the new Forester is not necessarily a bad thing.
I have the 2025 Forester Touring and just love it. Once you get past the familiarization, it is such an easy driving vehicle. It feels solid, and dare I say, nimble. Despite being one trim level up from the base, it is packed with bells and whistles.....and a whole range of safety features. It is my first Subaru and I am so thoroughly happy with my pick!
Have a '19 Forester; the car is underpowered when I have 5 passengers with AC running; however, the car drives excellent in snowy condition; I still love my car.
If you do your maintenance on this & change the CVT fluid every 40k miles, this will last 300k miles. Great family car & daily driver, especially if it snows some where you live. 👍🏻
Unproven. Older (Pre-2018) CVT transmissions often failed before 200k. Buyers of used examples should hold out for a car with full maintenance records.
Isn't this new Subaru Forester a partnership with Toyota, my understanding is when the hybrid model comes out it will run the boxer motor with the Toyota RAV 4 hybrid system. That boxy body also looks very similar to the RAV 4.
@coltoncj1 That's mostly dependent on the tires. If you're going somewhere that a rav or crv can't take you in stormy conditions with good tires, just stay home.
The reliability garbage that lovers of all brands pretend matters so much primarily applies to second or third owners as the average first owner of any car purchased new keeps it for less than 80,000 miles. Almost every car built if even modestly maintained will last that long without trouble. But, of course, you always have the guy who knows a guy who knew about another guy who had a Toyota with 400K miles on it so therefore the entire brand must be more reliable than anything else because they never heard of another brands cars having more than 392,000 miles on one. What's funny though is people will use their one time example as proof of the entire brand and then bash a brand they don't like even though you can find just as many one off examples of extremely high mileage Chevy's, Fords, Subaru's, Nissans etc...
@@steve8803 I disagree. Any AWD car with good tires will take you anywhere you need to go, but there’s just something about Subaru that makes makes you feel more in control and confident
@@davep2945 totally agree. I will say though after owning used several American and Japanese cars in the 100k to 250k mileage, I have had significantly more problems on my domestics. Especially my wife’s impala. As soon as that thing turned over 100,000 miles, I spend every other Saturday fixing that car.
Thanks for the well done, informative and detailed video. I have been driving two different Santa Fe's for the past 19+ years and have not had any issues with either one (so far). I was considering a new sportage but I really like the 2025 forester limited, however I am concerned about how well their CVT would hold up if I used the paddle shifters allot. I've always driven my Santa Fe's at least half the time in manual mode except when I am on open highway. (I live in a very hilly area). Do you think the Subaru CVT would hold up well with a driver shifting with the paddle shifters that much?? Thanks in advance for any opinions. Once again, great video.
As a car review guy you always have to criticize because that's what sells while balancing positives so manufacturers continue to send you new cars. I don't own a Forester or a RAV4 or the CR-V. However, as I am in the market for something in this category I have driven all three extensively because I rent cars for a day or two that I am seriously considering buying and there is no way on Earth I'd choose a RAV4 or CR-V. There is very little real world difference in useful power and to get what there is you have to let the CR'V and RAV4 wind out to tinny, vibration and noise filled levels of annoyance. Both feel like 1990's econo boxes with 2025 prices. Can't say that the Forester will be my next car but I can say it's far more refined and a far better value for money than the Honda or Toyota. As I said I rented all of them and was able to get family in the RAV4 for Christmas and friends in both the Forester and CR-V before and everyone of them liked the Forester best of all three. Including the one Toyota die hard who said he'd never even looked at anything else in 20 years. And while all three had similar safety systems that you could tell were working at least the Subaru's were well integrated and refined and I didn't feel like the car was trying to think too much to the point of increasing the chance of an accident rather than helping prevent one. I'm usuaulyl indifferent to cars that I test and don't like but I hated the RAV4 and, well, was mostly indifferent to the CR-V but would not recommend it.
Do you have to turn off the safety features each time you start the vehicle...or does it stay off...that looking at my eyes or turning wheel would be a no go for me
It's funny that the old body style is going to be sold into 2025 and maybe even 2026 for the Forester Wilderness. To be honest, due to the Wilderness keeping the old style radio with physical buttons it looks like I'll end up with a 2024 Wilderness over the 2025 Forester.
looking for a new 4x4 car what do you think for a couple in there mid 60s I have the new ranger with the 2.7 so I can haul I was thinking about the crosstek
My wife and I (both 70 this year) purchased a 24 Forester Wilderness. It now has 11,000 miles and we love it. The doors open wider than most cars which helps make it easier to get in and out of. We don’t race away from stoplights so the power or supposed lack of is not an issue. We are easy on it and have averaged 30 mpg over the 11,000 miles. Dealer offered a free class 1 off road adventure. Dang thing is about a capable as a UTV. Took it places I would never take a new car. May be the most enjoyable car we have owned since my first car, 66 Mustang.
I really like the ground clearance, AWD, great visibility, and off-road capability in the Forester. I do not like that it is underpowered, though, and that it lost two horsepower over the 2024 model.
I have the 2.4 turbo in my Ascent. It's a heavier vehicle of course but with turbo it is great improvement from my 2.4 Outback. Just leery about how long a turbo engine will last. Time will tell.
@teresahunt7649 With any turbo engine you have to be very diligent about timely oil changes and use synthetic only. I would not go 5000k on an oil change. Closer to half that.
One of the most important facts or specs when deciding on a Toyota, Honda, and Subaru comparable vehicle is the MPG numbers. Why was this omitted? In the past, I have made my decision to purchase the Honda CRV for this reason. Subaru always came in last of the three. The 2.5 Boxer engine needs to be replaced to compete. The CRV uses a turbo-charged 1.5 liter engine and has ample power.
I had Forester Sport 2021 i had a lift kit Primitive Rac8ng suspentions its grate. the big problem is the cooling gearbox transmision, its tend to hit under efforts,only the Wilderness model has the cooler gearbox radiator that can cool the transmision. in Canada you have winter but in the summer this kind of trans will fail to cool with the heat exchanger that get hot water from the radietor 95° while the gearbox oil need 82° this heat exchanger can not cool the system while you are towing or offroading. that why only the Wilderness is for off road. i installed an oil radiator on the water cooling and got 20° less it inough ,it can save you allmost 15000$.
*"CAN"* be...very close to being absolutely. Used to have a big time problem with blown engines from oil pump issues but still very much underpowered now for what is now being demanded from this engine and cvt transmission combination. Amazing full time all wheel drive system only Honda comes close😊😊
If we’re going strictly by looks. I would rather have the cross track. The forester is not ugly though. I’m more of a car guy and would pick the Impreza if it still looks good as when I checked them out about 10ish years ago 🤣🤣. I think it was smart of Subaru just to update it and not overhaul it
Why do you need to convince them of anything? Older used vehicles matching that description are plentiful and I bet many are still low mileage good examples that’ll last another 20 years if taken care of.
@@markbaker8004 risks are everywhere. A bit of due diligence and inspecting can alleviate most of what the used market offers. I have a ‘15 bought a few years ago with only 17k miles on it and it’s been rock solid (~45k miles now). I’d never consider a new vehicle with the depreciation they feel and similarly I like to keep my vehicles for a long time so if you can find a good fit it’s an appealing option.
Sadly in the UK we’re likely to get the awful 2.0l e-boxer mild hybrid like all the others we get. Only the Outback gets a bigger engine but it’s the turbo-less 2.5l.
Fantastic car unless you live up north. The steering wheel is only heated 3/4 of the way around and the 'heated' seats are lukewarm at best. My 2010 Forester was warmer on it's lowest setting than our 2025 is on high. Dealer says that's just the way they are. It's a shame, because the rest of the car is about perfect.
The CVT transmission has been the one weak spot, reliability-wise, along with some power window control strangeness. Have they done anything about that in the new models? Great video!
I traveled to St. Lucia 🇱🇨 last summer. I got a 2024 model for a weekly rental. Power/transmission programming response felt very unsafe. Trying to accelerate up a hill was crazy, you can floor it and engine just screams at 3000 rpm and the vehicle would barely move. Flat roads it felt ok but hills no way. Felt outdated but did give good fuel economy.
I won't buy one with a CVT. Also the local dealership is not that good. A friend of mine had a Subaru and had valve covers leaking on it. Dealership pulled the engine to replace and then wanted another $180 to change the spark plugs while they had the engine out.
I had an 09 Forester. I bought it for a low price in hopes to make a dollar on it by flipping it. I didn't make anything. But my experience with it was the check engine light came on for any and every reason. The vehicle looks like an SUV but feels like I'm sitting in a car with tall doors, which I didn't like. The underbody had rust in places like exhaust and brackets and mounts and was not rust proofed as you would expect an AWD vehicle to be. I never got to use it in snow, so I cannot comment on that. I want to be a fan of Subaru, but I don't think I'd buy one unless I had tons of cash. Id probably go with an Subaru Ascent, as I'm assuming it feels more like an SUV than a car.
Great review and great Subaru styling….Subaru!!! Have you guys fixed the oil leaks and head gasket issues on all the boxer engines. If so, advertise it and back it up with free extended warranty for oil leaks and head gasket. Let’s go and stopping talking about. Put your words where the money is.
I had a '18 Forrester sport and the seats were so uncomfortable that I had to get a different vehicle. I hope they fixed that. The eyesight system was also far too intrusive and constantly chiming. Made driving unenjoyable.
I thought like 4 Runner and Ford Explorer hints. But yeah Subaru has been working w Toyota, so it makes perfect sense! I have to admit I am learning to accept it but, Subaru has been losing their own sense of quirky style.
Yikes, I can get one of the new mid-size trucks for that price. A great reliable car to be sure, but I really don't like how CVT's accelerate. Also, this would not be a show-stopper, but that grill looks like it's off an old Ford Edge.
Consumer Reports drinks the Subaru kool aid. They still have head gasket issues. They are made cheap and break alot more than they should. I had a 2017 XT model and we were in the shop about every two months. Before that I had a 2013 that had a catastrophic head gasket fail at 66k miles, despite being dealer serviced before I bought it. They are trash.
Current owner of 2025 Forester Limited. We have owned multiple Subaru products. You cannot beat them for quality and value.
@countrymountaintrade rav4 beats them by a long shot which would explain the sales numbers.
So you totally recommend them or are you one of the people that work for super super promoting the product honest truth please thank you
@@steve8803unfortunately people in most of cases are not aware of the advantages of Subaru at first glance . Moreover majority people driving skills are so poor that’s why they can see the capacity of the car in terms of driving in the corners and bad conditions 🤷🏻 rav4 as a package is worst then forester . However rav4 is a good car 👍
what was your out the door price I'm going to go get one within the next few days and curious if there is any room to negotiate!
Lo que explica su volumen de ventas no es su calidad como tiene Subaru, es su precio y si durabilidad pero no es mejor que Subaru para nada y miles de usuarios que han tenido ambos te lo pueden decir . Es más te lo resumo , Subaru es para quien lo tiene todo y no le interesa aparentar nada . Por eso su nicho es para conocedores y apreciadores de autos de verdad.@@steve8803
Stephen, you make an excellent point about Subaru focusing on improving what already works for their customers (like Toyota historically did), rather than going for radical change ever new design cycle. My wife has a 2020 Forester Premium - she loves it and is now hinting she'd like an upgrade to the new 2025 Forester Limited or Touring. We'll wait for the new hybrid engine to see its performance numbers and pricing later this year before purchasing. Thanks for helping me realize that Subaru's somewhat conservative approach to the new Forester is not necessarily a bad thing.
I have the 2025 Forester Touring and just love it. Once you get past the familiarization, it is such an easy driving vehicle. It feels solid, and dare I say, nimble. Despite being one trim level up from the base, it is packed with bells and whistles.....and a whole range of safety features.
It is my first Subaru and I am so thoroughly happy with my pick!
I have an Ascent Premium. 2021. It has all options I need in a car. Subaru is good at giving u a great bang for your buck.
I have Zero interest in the Subaru.... but I DO have interest in All of your reviews... and I watch them all... Thank you for what you do Steve !
Glad you’re enjoying the channel!
If you stick with the 17in wheels the ride is best in class by far. The big wheels are just pothole magnets. Don't waste your money.
Have a '19 Forester; the car is underpowered when I have 5 passengers with AC running; however, the car drives excellent in snowy condition; I still love my car.
If you do your maintenance on this & change the CVT fluid every 40k miles, this will last 300k miles. Great family car & daily driver, especially if it snows some where you live. 👍🏻
When the hybrid comes out mid-year it’ll be an even more reliable Toyota-based eCVT. Literally the perfect practical light off road SUV
@@chrisb9478 I like driving a manual. My daughter has a 2012 Impreza with manual in northern Ontario….
Unproven. Older (Pre-2018) CVT transmissions often failed before 200k. Buyers of used examples should hold out for a car with full maintenance records.
To obtain that mileage, how many times will the headgasket need to be replaced?
@@tylermacconnell217 Subaru FB25s don't have headgasket issues. You're thinking of older EJ25s.
Looks significantly better this year. They did well, finally.
Isn't this new Subaru Forester a partnership with Toyota, my understanding is when the hybrid model comes out it will run the boxer motor with the Toyota RAV 4 hybrid system.
That boxy body also looks very similar to the RAV 4.
Even if my Subaru was “less reliable” than a rav4 or crv, I would still buy it. The snow and ice performance of this car is worth it
@coltoncj1 That's mostly dependent on the tires. If you're going somewhere that a rav or crv can't take you in stormy conditions with good tires, just stay home.
The reliability garbage that lovers of all brands pretend matters so much primarily applies to second or third owners as the average first owner of any car purchased new keeps it for less than 80,000 miles. Almost every car built if even modestly maintained will last that long without trouble. But, of course, you always have the guy who knows a guy who knew about another guy who had a Toyota with 400K miles on it so therefore the entire brand must be more reliable than anything else because they never heard of another brands cars having more than 392,000 miles on one. What's funny though is people will use their one time example as proof of the entire brand and then bash a brand they don't like even though you can find just as many one off examples of extremely high mileage Chevy's, Fords, Subaru's, Nissans etc...
@@steve8803 I disagree. Any AWD car with good tires will take you anywhere you need to go, but there’s just something about Subaru that makes makes you feel more in control and confident
@@davep2945 totally agree. I will say though after owning used several American and Japanese cars in the 100k to 250k mileage, I have had significantly more problems on my domestics. Especially my wife’s impala. As soon as that thing turned over 100,000 miles, I spend every other Saturday fixing that car.
Thanks for the well done, informative and detailed video. I have been driving two different Santa Fe's for the past 19+ years and have not had any issues with either one (so far). I was considering a new sportage but I really like the 2025 forester limited, however I am concerned about how well their CVT would hold up if I used the paddle shifters allot. I've always driven my Santa Fe's at least half the time in manual mode except when I am on open highway. (I live in a very hilly area). Do you think the Subaru CVT would hold up well with a driver shifting with the paddle shifters that much?? Thanks in advance for any opinions. Once again, great video.
As a car review guy you always have to criticize because that's what sells while balancing positives so manufacturers continue to send you new cars. I don't own a Forester or a RAV4 or the CR-V. However, as I am in the market for something in this category I have driven all three extensively because I rent cars for a day or two that I am seriously considering buying and there is no way on Earth I'd choose a RAV4 or CR-V. There is very little real world difference in useful power and to get what there is you have to let the CR'V and RAV4 wind out to tinny, vibration and noise filled levels of annoyance. Both feel like 1990's econo boxes with 2025 prices. Can't say that the Forester will be my next car but I can say it's far more refined and a far better value for money than the Honda or Toyota. As I said I rented all of them and was able to get family in the RAV4 for Christmas and friends in both the Forester and CR-V before and everyone of them liked the Forester best of all three. Including the one Toyota die hard who said he'd never even looked at anything else in 20 years. And while all three had similar safety systems that you could tell were working at least the Subaru's were well integrated and refined and I didn't feel like the car was trying to think too much to the point of increasing the chance of an accident rather than helping prevent one. I'm usuaulyl indifferent to cars that I test and don't like but I hated the RAV4 and, well, was mostly indifferent to the CR-V but would not recommend it.
Subaru rarely makes big changes, they just improve upon what’s already working, design and technology.
Do you have to turn off the safety features each time you start the vehicle...or does it stay off...that looking at my eyes or turning wheel would be a no go for me
Love our 2016 Forester limited which was 25K @ 37K this new Forester would make me consider other options
Like No# 481...Sorry Steve im 2 days late to the show. Subarus are common in my area
It's funny that the old body style is going to be sold into 2025 and maybe even 2026 for the Forester Wilderness. To be honest, due to the Wilderness keeping the old style radio with physical buttons it looks like I'll end up with a 2024 Wilderness over the 2025 Forester.
Honda and Toyota competitors are good, but man you pay a premium
At first glance the front end reminded me of a ford edge front end
@bradstandley2071 explorer
looking for a new 4x4 car what do you think for a couple in there mid 60s I have the new ranger with the 2.7 so I can haul I was thinking about the crosstek
No...go with Forester. So much easier to get in & out. Lots more space for your buck too. I'm 66 yrs old.
My wife and I (both 70 this year) purchased a 24 Forester Wilderness. It now has 11,000 miles and we love it. The doors open wider than most cars which helps make it easier to get in and out of. We don’t race away from stoplights so the power or supposed lack of is not an issue. We are easy on it and have averaged 30 mpg over the 11,000 miles. Dealer offered a free class 1 off road adventure. Dang thing is about a capable as a UTV. Took it places I would never take a new car. May be the most enjoyable car we have owned since my first car, 66 Mustang.
Forester if you need to transport people and pick up their luggage. Crosstrek if you don’t plan to seat more than 5 especially with luggage.
Waiting for the Hybrid to appear in the land down under.
I really like the ground clearance, AWD, great visibility, and off-road capability in the Forester. I do not like that it is underpowered, though, and that it lost two horsepower over the 2024 model.
They should offer turbo as an option.
I have the 2.4 turbo in my Ascent. It's a heavier vehicle of course but with turbo it is great improvement from my 2.4 Outback. Just leery about how long a turbo engine will last. Time will tell.
@teresahunt7649 With any turbo engine you have to be very diligent about timely oil changes and use synthetic only. I would not go 5000k on an oil change. Closer to half that.
outgoing subaru forester styling was better
I actually like the new styling better
The new Subaru looks like a Ford Explorer. Subaru is known for copying Ford Styling down to the logo itself
Hi Sir Good Afternoon 😊
One of the most important facts or specs when deciding on a Toyota, Honda, and Subaru comparable vehicle is the MPG numbers. Why was this omitted?
In the past, I have made my decision to purchase the Honda CRV for this reason. Subaru always came in last of the three. The 2.5 Boxer engine needs to be replaced to compete. The CRV uses a turbo-charged 1.5 liter engine and has ample power.
If you’re that bothered about MPG then you’re in the wrong forecourts.
I had Forester Sport 2021
i had a lift kit Primitive Rac8ng suspentions its grate. the big problem is the cooling gearbox transmision, its tend to hit under efforts,only the Wilderness model has the cooler gearbox radiator that can cool the transmision.
in Canada you have winter but in the summer this kind of trans will fail to cool with the heat exchanger that get hot water from the radietor 95° while the gearbox oil need 82° this heat exchanger can not cool the system while you are towing or offroading.
that why only the Wilderness is for off road.
i installed an oil radiator on the water cooling and got 20° less it inough ,it can save you allmost 15000$.
Not wild about the styling….wish they’d taken it in a more squared-off, truck-like direction. The upcoming hybrid will be welcome.
*"CAN"* be...very close to being absolutely. Used to have a big time problem with blown engines from oil pump issues but still very much underpowered now for what is now being demanded from this engine and cvt transmission combination. Amazing full time all wheel drive system only Honda comes close😊😊
I wish this unit has a manual transmission in option.
They should make a hybrid version with some more torque.
mid-year 🤭
@@JasonKahn Our dealer said coming to lots this Summer
Даже крупному человеку в этом хорошей машине комфортно, не тесно. ❤Subaru Forester iLove and ❤Toyota RAV 4 hybrid.
there suspose to be putting a hybrid power train in the forester,should give more power
For this price, you get more with Mazda. Without CVT.
If we’re going strictly by looks. I would rather have the cross track. The forester is not ugly though. I’m more of a car guy and would pick the Impreza if it still looks good as when I checked them out about 10ish years ago 🤣🤣. I think it was smart of Subaru just to update it and not overhaul it
How do we convince them to put a manual transmission back in and get rid of the safety Nannies?
Convince people to by standards again in America then it will be worth it for Subaru to build them
@ , you are not wrong. building only cvt models makes for cheaper mfg costs. Bean counter decision.
Why do you need to convince them of anything? Older used vehicles matching that description are plentiful and I bet many are still low mileage good examples that’ll last another 20 years if taken care of.
@ true. But I like to buy new and keep for a long time. Used can be risky. Older also means less reliable.
@@markbaker8004 risks are everywhere. A bit of due diligence and inspecting can alleviate most of what the used market offers. I have a ‘15 bought a few years ago with only 17k miles on it and it’s been rock solid (~45k miles now). I’d never consider a new vehicle with the depreciation they feel and similarly I like to keep my vehicles for a long time so if you can find a good fit it’s an appealing option.
Sadly in the UK we’re likely to get the awful 2.0l e-boxer mild hybrid like all the others we get. Only the Outback gets a bigger engine but it’s the turbo-less 2.5l.
Dented front?
Very much like the Forester, however It just not have enough power. needs a turbo.
Hate the styling and hate how big this thing is. Nothing beats the second and first gen for styling and the perfect size.
Fantastic car unless you live up north. The steering wheel is only heated 3/4 of the way around and the 'heated' seats are lukewarm at best. My 2010 Forester was warmer on it's lowest setting than our 2025 is on high. Dealer says that's just the way they are. It's a shame, because the rest of the car is about perfect.
0:29 When you lose the 10mm socket
They absolutely butchered that front end. Why make it look like an explorer?
@steve8803, if you ever see one next to a gen 2 forester... it's kind of a throwback!
The CVT transmission has been the one weak spot, reliability-wise, along with some power window control strangeness. Have they done anything about that in the new models? Great video!
planetary gear based eCVT coming soon!
I traveled to St. Lucia 🇱🇨 last summer. I got a 2024 model for a weekly rental. Power/transmission programming response felt very unsafe. Trying to accelerate up a hill was crazy, you can floor it and engine just screams at 3000 rpm and the vehicle would barely move. Flat roads it felt ok but hills no way. Felt outdated but did give good fuel economy.
No power. Cvt sucks
Good vehicle but look at a 10 year old rav4 or crv- they hold up better iimho.
We don’t want :
Direct injection fuel system
Turbo
CVT transmission
Deactivation cylinders (AFM)
Stop-star engine system
I won't buy one with a CVT. Also the local dealership is not that good. A friend of mine had a Subaru and had valve covers leaking on it. Dealership pulled the engine to replace and then wanted another $180 to change the spark plugs while they had the engine out.
I had an 09 Forester. I bought it for a low price in hopes to make a dollar on it by flipping it. I didn't make anything. But my experience with it was the check engine light came on for any and every reason. The vehicle looks like an SUV but feels like I'm sitting in a car with tall doors, which I didn't like. The underbody had rust in places like exhaust and brackets and mounts and was not rust proofed as you would expect an AWD vehicle to be. I never got to use it in snow, so I cannot comment on that. I want to be a fan of Subaru, but I don't think I'd buy one unless I had tons of cash. Id probably go with an Subaru Ascent, as I'm assuming it feels more like an SUV than a car.
Have a 2021. Good car. Turbo gives 2.4 better power too. Mileage 19/24. Guess can't have everything.
lol@ getting mad at me😂
Looks like a small Ford explorer. Kinda.
Great review and great Subaru styling….Subaru!!! Have you guys fixed the oil leaks and head gasket issues on all the boxer engines. If so, advertise it and back it up with free extended warranty for oil leaks and head gasket. Let’s go and stopping talking about. Put your words where the money is.
Dependable all year vehicle
Not a fan of the front end.
Strong mini van vibes after a redesign.
@@shiftymcgee9359 not quite a ridgeline though. Amirite?
@ I wouldn’t know. I drive a Bronco. And stop stalking.
I had a '18 Forrester sport and the seats were so uncomfortable that I had to get a different vehicle. I hope they fixed that. The eyesight system was also far too intrusive and constantly chiming. Made driving unenjoyable.
Seats are much better in the new model. Still not great if you have long legs though.
Electrical tape work?
LOL..... Toyota puts a PROVEN Hybrid powertrain in different models and now they are deemed unreliable under Subaru.....ok.
Hate the new design, looks like the old Toyota Highlander and still not a fan of CVT transmission.
I thought like 4 Runner and Ford Explorer hints. But yeah Subaru has been working w Toyota, so it makes perfect sense! I have to admit I am learning to accept it but, Subaru has been losing their own sense of quirky style.
Never been in a Subaru that doesn't feel cheap as shit.. Junk.
Uglier than a mud fence. Just a hot mess of a design.
Yikes, I can get one of the new mid-size trucks for that price. A great reliable car to be sure, but I really don't like how CVT's accelerate. Also, this would not be a show-stopper, but that grill looks like it's off an old Ford Edge.
Not in love with the front end look or lack of power. Subaru do have a fan base that love theses things.
No to Subaru. I like my 2023 Ford Escape
Consumer Reports drinks the Subaru kool aid. They still have head gasket issues. They are made cheap and break alot more than they should. I had a 2017 XT model and we were in the shop about every two months. Before that I had a 2013 that had a catastrophic head gasket fail at 66k miles, despite being dealer serviced before I bought it. They are trash.
I stopped watching at mention of that engine and trans. They need a hybrid yesterday. Garbage.
Consumer reports is worthless…
That interior is a deal breaker. If I’m going to purchase or lease a new car then the interior should be ground breaking🫤