OMG, THANK YOU!!! I'm new to TIG welding and I've been banging my head against the wall for weeks for a bad bottle of gas! I tried the last few days to find people who could show the problem I was having and 99.9% of the "before" pictures looked 100x better than mine, much less the after. I knew I had something else wrong. And your bad gas example looked EXACTLY like what I've been fighting. The local welding supply place took it and exchanged it, and it was an IMMEDIATE night and day difference! I feel like now I can actually start learning instead of wondering WTF I'm doing wrong. I mean, there'll be a lot of that too, but at least my equipment isn't the problem now
Never heard of "bad gas" before ....never ever experienced "bad gas" before. This is a "controlled industry". Deviating from "standards" is a felony. WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED? .
I remember the first experience with a "bad bottle of gas" : The first few times I sat down to practice aluminum , all was going just fine. Then one Saturday morning I sat down for some AC practice and I could barely get the puddle to even form! I was really confused as I thought it was something I had done. I spent the next hour going over everything..... I then remembered that I have a extra 80cf bottle of 100% argon in the corner so that I won't run out on a weekend. I thought, what the heck , I'll try it and "wha-la" I was back in business. If it would have happened with a brand new bottle, you would probably realize it was the gas, but to have it happen mid way through a bottle was a real learning experience. Thanks for the refresher Mark.
I've heard of this before, but it does sound weird to have the gas composition change mid-bottle. I would sure like to hear a credible scientific explanation of how this is even possible. I understand that you can get bad gas from a leak in the plumbing, but I would think such a leak would have to be right at the torch head to suck in any air. Assuming you can solve this, you should be able to TIG weld silver amalgam repairs if only the patient would sit still... 😁
All week I was doing aluminum welding practice and now down to 400psi left in the bottle, then today after only welding for 5mins, all my welds turned to crap. I fitted a new tungsten, cup, cleaned the crap out of the aluminum , checked flow rates and weld still bad. After reading your comment I think there is something wrong with my argon?
@Dennis Young Yes, CO2 liquefies at 900 psi while argon remains a compressed gas. I can think of only one mechanism so far that could explain why the mix would change mid-bottle. If there were some *liquid* CO2 present in an argon cylinder, it would become an increasing percentage of the mix as the bottle is emptied. If there were an abrupt change in cylinder temperature (as from sunlight?) then the partial pressure of the CO2 would spike and abruptly become a greater portion of the gas drawn off. This seems like a stretch to me, but it's the only thing I can think of right now. I've used CO2 a lot for MIG welding steel, but always Argon for all TIG. It would be interesting to see someone try CO2 for TIG just to see how bad it is. I don't want to mess up my torch so I don't want to risk it. I'd like some else to do that. 😁 Maybe YOU?!!? 😆
Good points. Good presentation. I recently started following several major weld companies just to see what they put out there. Everlast really seems to do the best job so far.
Nice set of experiments / demonstrations. This is super useful for us self-taught hobby welding guys. It's nice to be able to look at a weld and have some ideas about what to change and why.
I am in the process of purchasing a tig welder, I have learned more about tig welding aluminum in this video than all the others I have watched, thank you so much for such a great and informative video.
Hahaha I'm still using the same tungsten from couple years ago too! 🤪 I almost forget what it's like to sharpen one, it's been so long. Even on AC at 260amps! bad gas? I dont even use gas! ;) yes, i thought ur comment was funny
Thanks dude I literally tried everything I could didn't realize my tungsten was too far out. New to tig welding and no ones at work to help me so I appreciate it 🙏
I went from steel to aluminum and basically used the same methods. I figured they were the same. 1. Travel Angle was wrong. Mostly the filler melting too quickly. 2. I was pulling up and even if I started good, yeah…wide pool. 3. Not cooling the plate often enough. Aluminum does not like a lot of heat when ur just stacking for practice. This video helped me a lot. I’d say just from these I went from 4/10 to a 6 - 6 1/2. With not experience. Thank you for this vid.
This is actually a really good video with some great info….. Thank you! I haven’t picked up a tig torch in 30-35 years, no doubt in my mind I can weld it but wanted to look and watch a few videos and this video covered everything I needed. Thank you!
Great video, I’ve asked and searched to figure out why I had issues with filler melting and crumbling up and thought I wasn’t being fast enough but it’s definitely my torch angle
great video, have experienced the bad tank of gas, many people said I've been welding 30 yrs and never had a bad tank, they must not do any aluminum. I've had 2 in a row so bad I took the tank to another welder to see if that was my problem. New tank problems went away!
Thank you very much for illustrating the problems of people who want to learn to weld aluminum correctly. the most difficult for me is keeping the burner at the right distance and feeding the wire. greetings.
Very well explained! Have many yards of it over the last 40 years. I will take exception to aluminum being non reactive. See that filler rod melting in the improper angle/long arc scenario? It’s oxidizing like crazy being outside the shield.
I'm new at TIG welding and I'm working with aluminum at the moment. Based on your comment, does is make sense to use a bigger cup for a bigger coverage area?
@@bluedemon79 I have never really found a larger cup necessary for AL, I save those for stainless. Clean metal, good gas flow, the right electrode and keeping the village idiot from turning a fan on you or opening a door right next to where you are welding are key.
Watching this hurts but it's good instruction. Every welder needs to see this just to start then as a refresher many times to remember for muscle memory. "Hurts" as in seeing the methods being practiced incorrectly for instructional purposes but great round of instruction, 100%.
really nice presentation and very well understandable. I am having some of the issues, trying to weld thin aluminum tubes for a bicycle frames. Always maintaining the right torch angle on a small diameter tube is amazingly difficult - especially in combination with a tight torch distance. Finally - your worst weldings still look better than my good ones ;)
Thank you so much. My filler would ball up and I had ideas why. You sir just confirmed why so now time to get back under the mask and get to it. 100% help on my end thank you.
This guy's good, doesn't drag out the tips for a slow death.. thanks
OMG, THANK YOU!!! I'm new to TIG welding and I've been banging my head against the wall for weeks for a bad bottle of gas! I tried the last few days to find people who could show the problem I was having and 99.9% of the "before" pictures looked 100x better than mine, much less the after. I knew I had something else wrong. And your bad gas example looked EXACTLY like what I've been fighting.
The local welding supply place took it and exchanged it, and it was an IMMEDIATE night and day difference! I feel like now I can actually start learning instead of wondering WTF I'm doing wrong. I mean, there'll be a lot of that too, but at least my equipment isn't the problem now
Never heard of "bad gas" before ....never ever experienced "bad gas" before. This is a "controlled industry". Deviating from "standards" is a felony. WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED?
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I remember the first experience with a "bad bottle of gas" : The first few times I sat down to practice aluminum , all was going just fine. Then one Saturday morning I sat down for some AC practice and I could barely get the puddle to even form! I was really confused as I thought it was something I had done. I spent the next hour going over everything..... I then remembered that I have a extra 80cf bottle of 100% argon in the corner so that I won't run out on a weekend. I thought, what the heck , I'll try it and "wha-la" I was back in business. If it would have happened with a brand new bottle, you would probably realize it was the gas, but to have it happen mid way through a bottle was a real learning experience. Thanks for the refresher Mark.
I've heard of this before, but it does sound weird to have the gas composition change mid-bottle. I would sure like to hear a credible scientific explanation of how this is even possible. I understand that you can get bad gas from a leak in the plumbing, but I would think such a leak would have to be right at the torch head to suck in any air. Assuming you can solve this, you should be able to TIG weld silver amalgam repairs if only the patient would sit still... 😁
All week I was doing aluminum welding practice and now down to 400psi left in the bottle, then today after only welding for 5mins, all my welds turned to crap. I fitted a new tungsten, cup, cleaned the crap out of the aluminum , checked flow rates and weld still bad. After reading your comment I think there is something wrong with my argon?
@Dennis Young Yes, CO2 liquefies at 900 psi while argon remains a compressed gas. I can think of only one mechanism so far that could explain why the mix would change mid-bottle. If there were some *liquid* CO2 present in an argon cylinder, it would become an increasing percentage of the mix as the bottle is emptied. If there were an abrupt change in cylinder temperature (as from sunlight?) then the partial pressure of the CO2 would spike and abruptly become a greater portion of the gas drawn off. This seems like a stretch to me, but it's the only thing I can think of right now. I've used CO2 a lot for MIG welding steel, but always Argon for all TIG. It would be interesting to see someone try CO2 for TIG just to see how bad it is. I don't want to mess up my torch so I don't want to risk it. I'd like some else to do that. 😁 Maybe YOU?!!? 😆
Dude - probably the best aluminum tips for beginner (me) - you literally described all the things I do wrong ... and have wondered why. 10/10
More coming. Make sure to sub.
Best instructional vid on tig I've ever seen, clear and straight to point. Thank you!
Good points. Good presentation. I recently started following several major weld companies just to see what they put out there. Everlast really seems to do the best job so far.
We need more Mark Winchester videos! KEEP THEM COMING!!!
Nice set of experiments / demonstrations. This is super useful for us self-taught hobby welding guys. It's nice to be able to look at a weld and have some ideas about what to change and why.
I am in the process of purchasing a tig welder, I have learned more about tig welding aluminum in this video than all the others I have watched, thank you so much for such a great and informative video.
I had bad gas a while ago but it didn't affect my welds at all!
Hahaha I'm still using the same tungsten from couple years ago too! 🤪 I almost forget what it's like to sharpen one, it's been so long. Even on AC at 260amps! bad gas? I dont even use gas! ;) yes, i thought ur comment was funny
Ass gas does not apply
@@nyc4lifeamityvillecnc698 😂😂
Stinky!
What he surely means was that even a good gas couldn't save his welds 😅
Telling me about looking in the melt edge of the puddle, was one key point I am thankful for.
Good point.
One of the best I've seen in a long time. I don't weld aluminum often and keep forgetting these four good basics between projects... .
Thanks dude I literally tried everything I could didn't realize my tungsten was too far out. New to tig welding and no ones at work to help me so I appreciate it 🙏
I have watched hundreds of welding videos, and this is one of the best...Bravo and Cheers from Florida, Paul
Good advice. I've had all of the issues mentioned at different times and never really understood the why. Thanks a bunch
I went from steel to aluminum and basically used the same methods. I figured they were the same.
1. Travel Angle was wrong. Mostly the filler melting too quickly.
2. I was pulling up and even if I started good, yeah…wide pool.
3. Not cooling the plate often enough. Aluminum does not like a lot of heat when ur just stacking for practice.
This video helped me a lot. I’d say just from these I went from 4/10 to a 6 - 6 1/2. With not experience. Thank you for this vid.
This is actually a really good video with some great info….. Thank you! I haven’t picked up a tig torch in 30-35 years, no doubt in my mind I can weld it but wanted to look and watch a few videos and this video covered everything I needed. Thank you!
Awesome presentation Mark and Everlast 🔥
Fantastically helpful for learners. Thanks.
Great video, I’ve asked and searched to figure out why I had issues with filler melting and crumbling up and thought I wasn’t being fast enough but it’s definitely my torch angle
great video, have experienced the bad tank of gas, many people said I've been welding 30 yrs and never had a bad tank, they must not do any aluminum. I've had 2 in a row so bad I took the tank to another welder to see if that was my problem. New tank problems went away!
I watch this video from time to time to remind me. Thanks for the video.
Wow, best education I have seen about TIG welding aluminum.
Why didn't I find this channel first, I'm learning (slowly) and it's because of 3 of the 4 you've covered so thanks.
Really good video. I've had similar issues in Welding school
That's a really good point about arc length. It is so tempting to pull up too much, I am not steady enough to avoid dipping the electrode.
Same!
Thank you for the illustrative video
Thanks Mark. That was a really good film that was informative and well measured.
Thank you very much for illustrating the problems of people who want to learn to weld aluminum correctly. the most difficult for me is keeping the burner at the right distance and feeding the wire. greetings.
So very helpful, glad I found you guys!
Top notch advice from a tig welder 👌👍
This addressed my questions so far as a beginner. Thanks. The examples showed exactly what my welds look like.
Excellent teaching
Gracias por los consejos,saludos y bendiciones,
That’s a great video, I’ve learnt a lot from watching it. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the tips, I really enjoy this kind of help. Weld mean weld green!
Very well explained! Have many yards of it over the last 40 years. I will take exception to aluminum being non reactive. See that filler rod melting in the improper angle/long arc scenario? It’s oxidizing like crazy being outside the shield.
I'm new at TIG welding and I'm working with aluminum at the moment. Based on your comment, does is make sense to use a bigger cup for a bigger coverage area?
@@bluedemon79 I have never really found a larger cup necessary for AL, I save those for stainless. Clean metal, good gas flow, the right electrode and keeping the village idiot from turning a fan on you or opening a door right next to where you are welding are key.
I am just starting out with aluminum and this was very helpful!
great camera work, really clear explanation
Thanks for the great explanations Mark
Thanks for some good information that's easy to understand.
Excellent video and explanations
Bad gas. Never would have thought of that being a novice. Thank you for awesome tips!
Thanks for sharing and I was having problems, But you answered them 👍👍👍
Watching this hurts but it's good instruction. Every welder needs to see this just to start then as a refresher many times to remember for muscle memory.
"Hurts" as in seeing the methods being practiced incorrectly for instructional purposes but great round of instruction, 100%.
This video helped a lot actually
Thanks for the tips!
One of the best tutorial
Learned something new man, reactive and non-reactive metals, and the need to have the filler rod in or out of the shielding gas zone. Thanks man!
Nice one Mark, think I'll go practice now 👍
Brilliant video thank you 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video!! Thank you!!
Very useful. Im having problem with dirty beads at moment. Will check you tips out.
Dear friend, thank you for your dedication and excellent teaching of the gtaw process, greetings
This was great! Thank you very much!
Dude, great work. This video is awesome as I've been struggling with aluminum but this just answered all my issues. Bad gas 🤣
Great arc shots! Time to go practice!
Stellar camera work
Спасибо! Интересно и познавательно!!!
really nice presentation and very well understandable. I am having some of the issues, trying to weld thin aluminum tubes for a bicycle frames. Always maintaining the right torch angle on a small diameter tube is amazingly difficult - especially in combination with a tight torch distance. Finally - your worst weldings still look better than my good ones ;)
I can help you
Excellent straight to the point, helpful tips, great demonstration and good quality video. Thanks
Excellent info thanks
Good clean advice
Спасибо за ваше видео даже разговаривая на разных языках все ясно и понятно
Thanks!! I’ve been melting my filler rod, now I know why.
Thank you very much, super helpful :)
thank you for this very informative video. now i think i can pinpoint my problems.
helpful video. thanks!
Very informative, thanks 👍
This was very helpful for me, much appreciated
Thanks Mark, i will try tomorrow that 💪😃
very good teaching
Thank you for the tips.
Thanks. Very helpful
Awesome! Thank you very much! Really appreciated!
Thank you so much
Great video thanks
Nice .. keep going .. good presention
Great video and explication!👋👋👋👋👋
very helpful to know this. grandly explained.
thanx and greets from germany.
Great video. Thanks for the info. Can't lie though I weld blue.
That was very clear, thanks
Great vid brah
Awesome video
Be at 1 with the gas the power & the material, put your mind inside the weld pool, be the weld🙏😉
Excellent tips!
Super interesting. Thank you for the upload dudes!
That was helpful, thanks!
Very nice explanation great tips
Great video I'm a beginner and really liked the examples ✊👏👏
Excellent work on the presentation of this very helpful information! THANKS!
tyvm, most helpful
Nicely explained good job 👍
I really appreciate the tips,well described and to the point,great video thank you!
Great video, thank you for all the information.
Good video sir.
Thank you so much. My filler would ball up and I had ideas why. You sir just confirmed why so now time to get back under the mask and get to it. 100% help on my end thank you.
Nice presentation, thank you.
Good tips
Good job ❤