"Hey my daughter is missing, she called her brother and recorded a conversation with an unknown man who was driving her to a weird location, can you look into it?" RCMP: "IDK sounds kinda hard :/"
That still blows my mind!!! Amber was smart enough to call the person who had calls recorded. You can't pinpoint where she was? What tower that pinged off at that specific time? Granted it's not everything but it's a big damn thing to just 'Ehhh k cool here's some audio. K thanks bye '. And do nothing with it
I don't understand WHY? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?! Canada is overall a very safe place to live. It's not like they're swamped with crimes. They are purposefully choosing to not investigate these. Almost makes me wonder if the serial killer is known to the police and is connected to them or a high up politician in some way. A prominent member of the communities son or themselves. It really seems like the police know who this is, they have this guy's name, they found several indigenous women's bodies. This guy is clearly a serial killer. And they don't care because he's targeting a minority. Maybe they even told him hey you can't be serial killing white women you have to go after other women or we can't look the other way. There's something going on here if they only made one "mistake" in this investigation I would be suspicious. But supposedly they made a dozen different "mistakes" and they could easily fix those mistakes right now, by arresting this guy. And they're CHOOSING not to. It's on purpose. There's no way I believe it is not on purpose.
I'm so relieved to know someone has started covering #MMIW outside of native media in mainstream media/content creating. If I could tell you the amount of times natives were being cased in parking lots near my rez? And how many native women went missing in the mid to late 2000s??? O mean the lack of info sharing and action between native, state, and federal law enforcement was just sickening back then as it is now. And I'm from WA State.
her specifically saying “i’ll be gone for two sleeps” hit me so hard. my family is native and i grew up on the rez with them, and actually saying how many “sleeps” you’re going to be away is pretty common with natives in my experience. it reminded me of my aunties and my cousins. this is tragic.
The sleeps got me too. My mom says how many sleeps until my niece will see her again because that was easier for her to understand than days. I even got a Christmas countdown for her that says sleeps til Christmas. It makes it more frustrating the RMP thinks she just dipped, you don't tell your child how many sleeps til you'll see them again if you wanted to leave.
In the 24 years my fiancé has lived in northern Canada, he’s lost 3 female First Nations family members. One due to being murdered, and the other two are “missing” and the Canadian police told them that they had simply “ran away” due to their ages (16, 22, and 28). Amber deserves justice. ALL these First Nations women, children, and men deserve justice. It is their right as Canadians. In Oklahoma, native women would disappear in reservations only to be found months/years later both outside and inside of the reservation. The police, both res and Oklahoman police, would ignore this and allow this to continue happen.
Issue is that there is a lot of complex stuff when it comes to reservation police and outside police departments that can take MONTHS just to deal with. Plus reservation police only have jurisdiction IN the reservations.
Yeah, Aidan does mention some of the complications with law enforcement in the US when it comes to native populations. Even when US law enforcement can get involved, it's usually the Feds, and no one who has been paying attention to the news recently can honestly say that they feel good when they hear that the FBI is on the case.
I'm not far from Tahlequah, it's cartel traffickers masquerading as tribal members who are kidnapping a lot of girls. We're very close to the I-40 corridor that they use to traffic drugs, guns, and girls from coast to coast.
On the note of "why would she go to Edmonton randomly?" I'm originally from northern Alberta and it is not a rare thing at all for people to randomly take a day trip to Edmonton. It's usually for recreation, since the other big cities up there are Fort McMurray or Grande Prarie, the former is seen more as a work city cause of the oil patch and the latter is closer to BC. The fact that people immediately assume she was going there for prostituition is pretty telling of how Indigenous women are so quickly victim blamed for being murdered here. It's not an imposdible chance of course, but if everyone who randomly took a trip to the capital region was going for sex work we'd have a reputation like Thailand's, to be blunt.
I live in Southern Alberta (Calgary) and I literally did that this year. Packed my bags, left a note and just up and left for a 3 day trip in Edmonton for a school event but I never told my friends and family so everyone told me how random that was. I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want others stopping me from travelling for the first time in my life. I guess i'm a prostitute now for it. It was super fun (the mall was worth it, it was like no other mall i've ever seen) and I'm lucky that it all worked out especially because when I visited a murder case was happening in the city. Indigenous women do get quickly victim-blamed and they deserve not only to not be victim-blamed but to have their case heard and their existence remembered. There's too many cases of indigenous women murders.
I'm from victoria living on the mainland now, and back on the island i met so many people from the mainland (mostly Vancouver) who would take day trips to there. ALL the time. Its like saying all of those people are going to Victoria for prostitution. It just doesn't make sense.
This lad isn't victim blaming, he's throwing out speculation because the RCMP have made sure that no evidence of this case exists or is accessible to the general public.
@DoubleWhammy i dont think op was saying that Aidan was blaming her, I think they were saying that a lot of people who have heard about this case have made that assumption, because I'm pretty sure Aidan said the assumption was made by a lot of people, and bc it honestly it's one that's made when speaking about MMIW a LOT of the time.
The one thing that really bothers me and makes no sense is Amber leaving her son with Evangeline. She wouldn't leave him with her own mother but she leaves him with some person she barely knew? It makes me think that someone concocted a story that would encourage her to do that. Not sure what that could be but it doesn't seem like she would have left him for something frivolous.
Did I miss what happened to the baby. Or was it not covered? I know minors put in the system have their records hidden; and Canada seems to get to redact whatever in the heck they want... So scared he went into care because of this.
I think you raise a valid point that is definitely worth investigating. However, I think it is also possible Evangeline's (eventual) story could be true for several reasons: - First, there is a big difference between leaving your baby in a different city for 3 days & leaving him for a few hours. - There are some cultural aspects to this - many Indigenous people have a community-based approach to child rearing and regularly rely on extended family and friends for support. - Indigenous family units have also been irreparably damaged by Colonialism (Residential Schools, 60's Sweep, MMIWG, etc) so bonds with family members can be complicated - not just because children were forcibly taken from their families & didn't learn how to be parents themselves but also because of the legacy of abuse many of them experience. For example, Amber's relationship with her mother was inconsistent throughout her life, though they were close at the time of Amber's disappearance. While I do believe Tutsi is right that if Amber's intention was to disappear, she would have left her son in Fort Mac with her or other family (and, honestly, would likely have told someone she needed to leave him instead of simply disappearing), I don't find it hard to believe that Amber left him with a relatively new friend for a few hours. We need to remember to look at things from the victim's perspective and not just our own. While leaving your baby with someone you had just met might feel very odd from my perspective, doing that very possibly reflected the same type of care Amber had as a young child and likely seemed much more normal.
Ive always wanted you to cover this story as Amber was my moms cousin and my auntie ❤❤ thank you for sharing her story and making more people aware of the rcmp lack of care for my aunties life
Im part native its sad how they act like we dont matter in these situations very upsetting! But mostly just want to say im sorry for your families loss 🙏
The lack of care for your aunt’s and others’ cases is deeply disturbing to me; and my heart goes out to you and your family. Everyone deserves answers and justice.
I’m truly sorry for your family’s loss, and that your Auntie and family (and of course every MMIW victims and families) get every piece of justice that is rightly deserved. ❤❤❤❤
I think about Amber all the time, and fervently hope for justice for her and all of the other indigenous victims (far too many). It's a travesty. 💔 This internet stranger sends you and your family love.
the gross negligence of not only the RCMP but also American police in handling missing indigenous women cases is so disgusting. It almost feels intentional. (it very well could be!)
Something Aidan mentions particularly in the US shouldn't be missed: most crimes committed on indigenous land cannot be litigated by the US itself, and when it can it's a federal matter. And, if you've been paying attention to the news recently, you know that the entire concept of Federal policing is just begging for abuse. Feds don't know the people they allegedly work for. It's easy for a Fed from urban New York to write off literally anyone from a rural area, let alone if that individual also happens to be indigenous.
In many cases it is. Some of it is burn out since N.A. communities have so many of these issues, but some of this is legit hate. The amount of people that still pine over their great, great, great granpappy 'Injun fightin' gear is disgusting.
@@Victor-bl2ge Oh yes I'm sure there are tons of people out there jerking themselves off over their ancestors killing natives. They probably hang with the secret Nazi room people every Thursday for poker night
Federal agencies as a rule are more likely to cause harm than do good. More often than not, a federal agent has no attachment to the communities he encounters, and in cases involving rural areas (let alone indigenous peoples) there is great potential for dismissive attitudes for the people they're supposed to be helping.
@@awesomearchivist1705 Tbf tho, the problems about jurisdictions that Lore Lodge highlighted would be exacerbated by having even more smaller police forces with different jurisdictions. The real issue is the uncomfortable true that so long as the natives are treated in the US as essentially a separate country, they well never receive the same treatment as other groups from the police. It’s routed in the reservation system and stubbornness from both sides. The truth is, the ugliness of the political situation is why these missing person cases go unsolved. Atleast in the states this holds true.
The trafficking idea really does seem to be the most likely one. Especially with the way the police seem to be actively hindering the case. Trafficking seems to be one of the crimes the FBI (and their Canadian equivalent) are hellbent on NOT solving. Makes it really hard not to think they are profiting from it in some way.
I think one issue with that is they found her bones. I would think if she was being trafficked she wouldn't of been murdered but rather sold s@xually and in that case still be alive
So, I tend to have a bone to pick about this case when people who are less familiar with Canadian police & their relationship with Indigenous people weigh in. I feel like people often look for a deeper meaning behind the at best apathy and at worst hostility the police have towards Amber's case and I feel like that can belittle the issue of institutional racism in Canadian law enforcement. Basically - we have seen enough to know that Amber simply being Indigenous was enough for the police to dismiss her case & actively avoid investigating it. We saw this play out with the Vancouver RCMP in the Pickton case and many other instances. By trying to link Amber to a larger conspiracy, it feels like people are saying "there must be something more here" which makes it seem like the racism isn't enough of a problem on its own when it absolutely is.
One of my nightmares is that I will go missing in Canada and the RCMP "investigates" as the RCMP doesn't seem to bother themselves with pesky little chores like their job.
They don't have time. They have to investigate more important stuff like COVID restriction violations. Please note, I'm not Canadian and this is pure conjecture based off like...two YT videos that I heard this mentioned. Could be BS.
Hot take on Amber Tuccaro: Evangeline lied to her and pretty much sold her off to the guy who killed her, human trafficking style. She didn't care what happened after that. The guy just so happened to have a penchant for killing native women. I would also bet the reason Evangeline wasn't interviewed is because any number of people on Edmonton police force were connected to her human trafficking schemes and they didn't want to implicate themselves in a murder they didn't commit (just because somebody likes questionable coitus with essentially stolen people does not make them a murderer.) With Canada's relatively small population in proportion to the land mass, it is highly likely that Canadian serial killers are relatives of or well connected to the local RCMP. It would explain why so many cases go almost unchecked. The locals are covering for their buddy or cousin or whoever, and then the feds can't do the job right because it was bungled so badly at the local level. Just my thoughts. I am excited that you used Wind River. I watched that movie and researched it for my master's thesis, which is on education methods for integrating indigenous culture into public school classrooms across the US. We need to care more about the indigenous people of our land, absolutely. If we cared more, perhaps people would be less inclined to see them as targets for heinous crimes and more like the humans they are.
The number of missing indigenous women in Canada that no one seems to care about is painful. I know three indigenous women personally that disappeared up north here in Ontario, of course where the RCMP is the only law enforcement available. They don't care. They dismiss them as "they ran away", "they are on a binge", "they don't want to deal with their responsibilities", etc., etc. White girl goes missing? The entire country, and every other country gets involved. Native girls? It rarely even makes the local news. We need more people like you, who have some level of reach, to get the word out for people to care. Thank you for covering this story.
There must be government kickbacks. Wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of human trafficking and organ trade going on there that politicians are benefiting from.
Speculation: If Evangeline encouraged Amber to bring her son-- she was more likely to agree to it traveling with another woman, and not a man-- then he may have been used as leverage to get Amber to go with someone /"do Evangeline a favor", once they got there.
My house was robbed twice by the same guy(there was security camera evidence). That man proceeded to attempt to rob several banks. Guess what the RCMP did? Nothing
I listened to it imagining Chief Wiggum saying "Eustis R. Dewoh....better start with Greek town." Though that would imply he actually attempted to investigate, so...
Gravol is an over the counter stomach medication here in Canada , it also causes drowsiness … maybe she asked him what he gave her ? because she’s passing out and she knew something was wrong and he said “ just gravol” and she said ( dazed ) “gravol ?” Idk if that makes sense but maybe that’s what they were saying
I figured he drugged her, but to know there's a medication you could probably use to drug someone named something that was said on the call? Yeah, I buy this bigtime
Glad to see you covering missing indigenous persons cases. It’s a huge issue that is vitally underreported. I’d love to see more from you on these cases in the future, perhaps it could be a series.
for fucking real, when i found out how many first nations women have gone missing on the Highway of Tears from an episode of the Crime Junkie podcast, and even the fact that there is a "Highway of Tears" at all, my jaw was on the fucking floor. I knew about the lack of care and attention towards missing and murdered American indigenous women, but holy fuck.
Honestly if possible I'd love to see a deeper dive into the Highway of Tears. Judging by the Wikipedia alone (which obviously isn't a lot to go off), it seems a lot of the victims were in fact victims of serial killers. (even if you just discussed the cases that were potentially involved with said serial killers) It might be a bit of a dark case (and long) but given how thorough you were here (I've heard this case a few times and i dont think I ever heard that the original call was 17 minutes) I think you'd do it justice. Also I've been pretty sussed by this Evangeline(?) woman each time I've heard about this case. Not saying she had anything to do with it in a 'kahoots with the driver' kind of way but why would she blatantly lie to Amber's mother? Like how is saying she's at the hotel asleep better than saying 'oh yea she went out earlier'? Even if she wasn't directly involved, she definitely could have done something that could (keyword could) have gotten Amber found sooner.
The Highway of Tears cases do involve some serial killings but I really dislike this approach to the subject. For one thing, when this comes up the focus becomes the killers and not the victims. Plus, it speaks to the general public wanting "interesting" answers to things that are boring, well known, and, frankly, more deadly than serial killers. The main contributing factors in the HoT murders & disappearances are endemic poverty, lack of resources, lack of infrastructure and safe transportation, Indigenous communities' justified hostility towards law enforcement & government agencies, untreated generational trauma, mental illnesses, and substance abuse (largely caused by Canada's racist and colonialist treatment of Indigenous people), and ongoing institutional racism (both bc police don't do thorough investigations to solve the crimes & bc people know that Indigenous woman are "good" targets for that reason). All of which are much more boring, pervasive, and difficult to address than unidentified serial killers. I mean, the Manitoba PC's were literally campaigning on a promise NOT to search the Winnipeg landfill for 2 missing Indigenous women believed to have been dumped there. A video discussing that would be much more relevant.
I heard about this on Morbid I believe. At least I think this was the case, because they also spent a great deal of time going over the violence against indigenous women and indifference of the police. Great podcast if anyone's interested. Also a Chris and Eddie joint account, wow. Definitely thought one of you was dead.
I have a question how has this guy not been found supposedly. The police know he is, they know where he lives. They have him on a recorded line. They have several other women who have brought allegations against him. How are they claiming they don't know who it is 😂
It's probably a bad thing that as an Albertan the first thing I thought when I read the title was "Failure of the RCMP, huh I wonder which incident this one is."
@@amandamacabre It really doesn't. I play D&D with an Ontario RCMP officer (an actual good one - or at least he's a really great guy outside of work!), and he's always griping about how useless his coworkers are, and how little they care. Then he drinks some more.
@TheLoreLodge I'm a Métis-Cree Native from Canada. Thank you! for covering this, This is something I barely hear about up here and that is sad but I'm glad I'm hearing about it on your video. your video's are awesome!
You should look into the steady and ongoing disappearances of Native Americans in South Dakota. There have been 38 juvenile and 5 adult disappearances of Native Americans in 2023 alone.
@@TJ-bg4fw That's my go to with all this. Because of how reservations are legally set up, they are prime targets for human trafficking in North America. Reservation police don't have the resources to find the people, and federal police don't have the jurisdiction. Indigenous women can also appear racially ambiguous enough that they can be smuggled across the southern border and from there to anywhere else in the world. Fake papers and nobody would bat an eye. Sucks so bad but not a clue how to handle it.
Im glad to see more established channels shedding light on the miscarriage of justice occuring to indigenous women in Canada with cases like this. These stories really highlight the profound lack of interest on the part of the RCMP. Great research and video!
I live in Edmonton and the way the government and RCMP treats natives is disgusting. I'm so ashamed of this country. The fact that I know people in 2024 who have been through the residential schools, the fact that they used to dump 16 year olds into downtown Edmonton in the middle of the night from those schools and leave them to fend for themselves, I just can't believe it. I'm constantly learning about new atrocities that people simply don't talk enough about. I knew about Amber but I didn't know this much detail. Thank you for the amazingly detailed and respectful video, and for keeping her story alive.
Holy fuck man.. being dropped off downtown Edmonton during times are people were hated on at an all time high sounds like a nightmare.. they were probably chased, beaten.. everything. :/ the last residential school here shut down in the 90’s..
@@noahwhitehawk3405 I wish more people knew about it. It's one of the reasons drug problems and homelessness are such big issues downtown especially: drugs and alcohol have been used as weapons and tools of colonialism for a very, very long time. If we want to do anything about the drug epidemic we have to get to its root, and that includes understanding what was done to the indigenous people here.
@@rampasplants8043 I always give me non indigenous friends the run down & scoop of what happened.. my uncle was locked in a kitchen cupboard for 3 days.. he said that wasn’t the worst part, he said going to the washroom & having to smell you’re own fecies & urine was the worst. Now today as a 60 year old man, he’s terrified of cupboards & hates being around them.
Let me preface this with YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO DO THIS but my friend who has hitchhiked or even just gone with a guy she doesnt know in his car will send me a picture of the license plate, the car and give a description of the person she is getting in the car with. Like i said no one should have to do this but sadly this shitshow we're living in you have to take precautions as a woman, especially WOC. Please stay safe babes 💜
@maryklw excuse? Poverty and living in rural areas are things that many Americans have to deal with in their day-to-day lives. They aren't excuses. They are the facts of their lives. Not everyone has the luxury to just get up and m@. It's not an excuse. It's an inescapable reality for people in poverty. Tell me you've never had to struggle without telling me you've never had to struggle. Jesus Christ have a little bit of compassion and try to think of people in circumstances other than your own.
You can only make outgoing calls from jail, not receive incoming calls. So her brother probably did just happen to call her while she was with her abductor. Also whenever you receive a call from an inmate it plays a recording stating that the call is being recorded and telling you the name of the facility and the person calling.
the calls over the phone are almost always outgoing, but they have apps where you can call and text and those are incoming to the inmate, as well as outgoing.
I think the brother had an actual cell phone he wasn’t supposed to have and she left a 17 minute long voicemail on it. I haven’t looked into it but that’s just what I think I could be wrong
Ever since I've learned about Brandon's law, I've noticed more and more that entertainment media loves using the 24hr waiting period trope. I even read a short horror story recently where the police told a character there was a 3 day waiting period before you could report someone missing. 3 DAYS.
Just because the police take a missing persons report before 24hrs dosnt mean they start working on it right away lol . I promise you those reports sit on desks for a couple days either way until they get around to it unless their is some concrete proof of an abduction or foul play. Other than that , they get to it when they get to it
Brandon's law only passed in 2009, and before that many police departs did make people wait to file missing persons reports. It was the normal policy for missing adults, and the wait was 24-72 hours depending on the department, either before you could file a report or before they'd start the investigation. One day is crazy if someone's in danger, let alone 3, but people really did have to wait that long. A lot of people still believe that you have to wait because of the old ways, and there's still misinformation (or old info) online. I guess it does add to a horror story because the thought of what could happen in that time, and how far away you could be, if even still alive, is terrifying.
Every fiction writer, internet commenter and such needs to not mention waiting periods as a thing that still is since it encourages the idea that they are.
Glad Lore is addressing this. I just did a research project fir a N.A. history class and the lack of people even GIVING A SHIT is infuriating. TV stations promising to help and then just not contacting the family, the cops not filing paperwork and being caught in lies...
Always nice to see someone with a platform using it to help with serious issues like this. Thank you for highlighting a very serious issue in North America as a whole, and encouraging people to reach out to their politicians and get on them to put more policies in place to help MMIW and their families. Love y'all, keep at it ^^
Just a tragic case, the RCMP didn't care about Amber at all and clearly put no effort into investigating the cause of these missing Indigenous women. Thank you for shedding light on this story.
As an old dude of 42. This is one of my favorite UA-cam channels. Love seeing someone with so much fuq'n passion about these topics you and your team pick. Well done 👏
If you are American and don’t have much familiarity with Canada, you did a really great job with the pronunciation of many First Nation names and locations. You also covered the story very thoroughly, more so than many Canadians would have done. Great job man! 👌🇨🇦
watched this one because I remember this case being on tv when I was younger. hearing all of the details is so upsetting, realizing nothing was done properly and wondering if she could have been saved... thank you for bringing light to these cases, it is so so important and canada (and america) need to do so much better to protect their citizens :(
Definitely have watched other videos about this case, but this is without a doubt the best and most in depth I've seen. It's such a sad case and the RCMP should be ashamed
It's funny considering the bodies situation discussed @32:00 that they didn't think there was a serial killer, when a similar situation on Long Island, New York was postulated to possibly be a turf war between multiple serial killers. Canada says, "nothing to see here." while the US goes "Those are rookie numbers, we gotta pump those numbers up!".
I spent many years in Montana, including my senior year in high school and one of my closest friends with a member of the Blackfoot tribe. She had so many relatives go missing over the years, and it was so bad that they just didn't even bother calling it in most of the time because they knew nothing would be done. Anyone who doubts racism being alive and well in America isn't paying attention. Thank you, Aidan for bringing more awareness to Amber's case and to the MMIW epidemic being faced by our indigenous sisters. ❤
Rascism isn't a thing in America you idiots wanted them to have there own rules and police so when there local cops end up being 20x more corrupt than white cops you blame is us
Thank you for covering this case and issue. I’ve known about MMIWG for a little while now but hearing the personal details here really put it into perspective. This is a horrific injustice happening in two “modern” countries that claim to value the safety of their citizens. It’s sick.
This is such a heartbreaking case. Thank you for covering these cases that the media is often silent about and don't get talked about enough. Clearly the RCMP could have done more and it's horrifying that her life could have been saved or her killer could have been found if they had of actually done their jobs.
Thanks for drawing attention to this issue, I grew up in Fort McMurray and now live in Edmonton and the complete disregard for missing indigenous people and the complete ineffectiveness of the RCMP always frustrates.
A friend of mine from fort Mac told me that kids that looked poor or didn't have brand name clothes got bullied alot. Do you agree with that? I am wondering if Amber got pressured into overspending/indebted to Evangeline (or someone else) and did something risky to make up for it.
THANK YOU. not nearly enough people are aware of the RCMP’s malicious neglect towards missing indigenous women. it is a systematic problem that canada has faced for generations and we are sick and tired of it because we want a safe and equal country for all like we say we are.
🇨🇦 here. I share your assessment of the capabilities and motivations (or lack of them) of our ‘storied’ RCMP. Your videos on the MMIW is a source of utter amazement to me. Amazement that it is so utterly absent in our country’s media. I live between two reservations here in New Brunswick and although one of my closest friends in indigenous, have lived most of my 79 years as ignorant of the daily lives of natives as, to be fair, I am of the daily lives of my non native community. I retired to my home province after years of living in Toronto, Vancouver, Barrie, and China. The last 13+ years being spent in China, I was almost completely unengaged with daily life (social & political) having access through only VPN connections to mass mainstream. In those years channels like UA-cam, Facebook, and Twitter was spotty at best, and they largely were on track with mainstream media. Back ‘home’ my information was almost limited to the mainstream narrative. Those that veered away from that narrative were discounted as ‘conspiracy theorists’. My trusted source of news and interpretation were pervasive, a problem I failed to question as a lifetime of confidence had led me to believe were trustworthy. My bad. Although better than average knowledge of the Bible, the warnings to the Israelites of the perils of having kings, had not registered as being pertinent to life in the modern West. Again, my bad. Thank you so much for all your channels. If you should err (which will happen giving human frailties) I believe you will do so not to mislead, but to misinterpret and, shown error, will not be afraid to backtrack. God bless.😅
One thing that I really wish you'd addressed in this video is what happened to Ms. Tuccaro's son. I understand he was left at the hotel room with Evangeline. Who has cared for him for the past 13 years? Is he being raised by Tootsie? As a mother myself, I can't help but be concerned for the child who was left motherless by this tragedy.
I was working in Nisku in 2010, and never heard about this at the time. I also lived in downtown Edmonton, where a lot of off-reserve natives were dealing with one or more of: homelessness, addiction, sex work. I saw a lot of vulnerable people. I worried about them, they were soft targets. We knew they were being targeted by at least one serial killer and that Project Care was a joke. They deserve better policing than they get from the RCMP and EPS.
I've pretty much watched your entire catalog at this point, and it has made me realize something. Your work makes me reconsider using the phrase "armchair detective" as a pejorative. Super insightful stuff.
Your channel has been a fixation since I found it recently. Pretty sure I watched 50% of your videos within the first few nights of subbing. Your knowledge and research along with the mysterious and creepy content you cover has become comforting for me as I heal my mental health lately. Just wanna say thanks and keep it up!
I'm on board with the connected serial killer hypothesis for this case. The conduct of law enforcement is eerily similar to a sheriff's department in my state where one of the higher up deputies was a serial rapist and other deputies covered for him. The behavior matches almost exactly.
Thank you so much for doing some research into this and using your position to make it more public! My sister tried to do a research paper about the MMIW phenomenon for school and ran into the same problem. That being that there is ciminally little information available on the subject.
Thanks for covering stories about our missing indigenous peoples of Canada. It is simply always pushed under the rug when it comes to missing /murders cases. As a plains cree from Sask, Thank you for the recognition.
You should do a video on “Starlight Tours” if you want a perfect example of just how, not just unhelpful but actively harmful the RCMP and police are to indigenous people here in Canada. The injustice and disparity in treatment towards the indigenous peoples whose land we stole is probably our biggest national shame. And of course our governing bodies are more interested in meaningless gestures and reconciliation than we are actually towards actually getting to the root of the problem and providing much needed supports. It makes me sick.
As someone who has spent practically his whole life in Edmonton I can attest that it’s fairly common for people from Calgary/rural Alberta to take a weekend trip to do some shopping at WEM
Im glad the stories of MMIW has reached other media, so disgusting that Canada rarely puts the cases in the news. Then again indigenous murders are rarely reported it the US too. Im glad online creators are bringing awareness
@randomusername5242 no it has more to do with the US government either ignoring the harm done to or being actively antagonistic to indigenous people, especially indigenous women, are subjected to, more often then not by the government itself. Canada is pretty much the same story. Indigenous people are a group that still actively have an ongoing genocide against them.
It's always fun when commenters conveniently ignore the information in the video about the way that jurisdiction issues get in the way of US law enforcement helping. It's certainly disturbing that indigenous women have gone missing, but a community does not get to demand to govern and police themselves and then complain that their host nation doesn't help them with law enforcement.
@@randomusername5242Making that claim is about as useless as making the claim that all missing indigenous women are killed by white nationalists. Neither one is going to help solve the problem, because both rely on biased views. It's much more relevant, as Aidan even notes, that massive levels of poverty among the native population makes indigenous women more likely to be hitchhikers in the first place, and the general lack of Federal interest in the lives of their citizens. I can't speak for Canada, but in the US the situation for Native Americans is a wonderful test case for how socialism produces a lazy, indifferent population that produces the kind of poverty described above.
that's the first time I heard someone else saying what I was thinking, she sounded sedated at one point....it sounds awful...she must have been so scared, call for justice is kinda over already, I hope her soul found her way to peace.
Just a side note, most inmates phone systems (in the US anyways) work on an outgoing call only basis. In other words, you can’t call the inmates, they call you when they are allowed phone time… you add money to an account, and they aren’t cheap. The system sounds exactly like the one in the recording, for my area, and I’m fairly certain it’s common practice in US and Canada. The more I ask around the more certain I am that these calls are outgoing only from inmates… they are also automatically recorded and saved, they probably didn’t even bother checking for it until then. Anyway love the vids, keep ‘em coming
I am so glad to see someone with a platform like yours use it to speak about this issue. Especially given your consistent ability to lead with empathy and care for victims and their families. It's one of the few channels like this I can watch, as so many others sensationalize it. I have great respect for the way you do things here. If you or anyone else would like a valuable book recommendation on a similar issue involving Indigenous youth, I highly recommend Tanya Talaga's "Seven Fallen Feathers". Another book, on the Highway of Tears, is written by Jessica McDiarmid and titled "Highway of Tears".
The situation is so bad, that when I lost my sister in 2020 my first thought was "are they even going to investigate her case". Ambers case and then now my sisters as well have made me so wary of going for a walk and make me nervous when i see another native girl by herself.
The thing is. You can't call people in jail. They can only call out. So as coincidental as it seems, he, luckily, I mean because it was recorded, he called her. I'm shocked/surprised her mom was unaware of the call, if it's her full not half brother, and there's no bad blood, between the son and mom. I find it odd he wouldn't have immediately called his mother and told her what he just heard, if he tried calling his sister back and was unsuccessful. But he definitely called her. There's no way she could have called him in the jail. Jail phones are one way, not two.
4:12 this is the most verbal information I’ve ever gotten about my Ojibwa heritage, I’m Chippewa-Cree, and it was really nice to hear about them and how exactly they fit into the Ojibwa group.
This hits too close to home. My aunt passed away under what my family has considered suspicious circumastance due to the state in which my mom told me her body was found. My aunt had moved back to what i was told was the reservation she grew up on in SD and i was told that due to it being on the reservation, it was unlikely anyone was going to look into it further. My next venture is going to request any possible police reports about her case to see exactly what was reported. But that side of my family believes she was murdered and in the same belief that nothing will ever be done about it. Thank you for bringing awareness to this extremely tragic and ongoing epidemic.
Im so grateful you guys covered this. I used to talk about mmiw and femicide in the Americas and This has giving me inspiration to bring this back up. There isn’t enough attention for indigenous and native missing people.
Decades ago, a woman called into the Art Bell show, they were discussing serial killers, I think, but the conversation was temporarily diverted to child trafficking. She claimed she was approached by a man to talk these girls, he supposedly had abducted to be sold into slavery, into accepting their fate. The woman said she refused the offer but I’m not sure why she didn’t turn him in. Of course, this is a memory and memory is a face on the water.
Still loving your videos guys. They get better and better. I will say was just looking at your channel and I cannot believe your Gabbi P video is only ranked #9 on your popular videos list. In my opinion it is the best video about her on UA-cam. Not to bring up a sore subject but ya, just kind of surprising.
You should look up the Jack family that vanished. Well, "vanished". Someone saying they could give them a logging job and could provide daycare at a logging camp scooped all four of them into his truck and they all just... poofed into the ether. Indigenous family, mom, dad, two young kids slated for school in a few weeks. And the haunting message the dad left for his mom. "If I don't come back, come looking for me." I think it'd be right up your alley.
Thank you for bringing this soul wrenching issue to our people to the forefront. You are greatly appreciated and I wish many blessings to come upon you, your Videos/Podcasts and Family. There are women who are beautiful people who have families that love them. It's time that their Spirits be brought home to their People. Give the families the peace they long for. Justice will prevail.
As a Canadian and as an Indigenous women I get so worried when people talk about MMIWG or Indigenous topics… I worry that underlying biases may pop up. But the way you cover about it. I applaud you! I applaud you for using your platform to bring awareness on this topic!!!! It is a very serious problem not only in Canada but everywhere. Our women and girls are going missing and or turning up murdered and the lack of justice is infuriating and disappointing. The lack of coverage is also heartbreaking. Our people don’t get the national headlines or a true investigation.
I like your videos! I appreciate all the in-depth study you do in order to present a well-rounded story. I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned your pronunciation of some of the names. I am Metis, which is pronounced may-tee. Thanks!
Hey, also, can you guys please start doing chapters in your videos? You guys do such a good job with the amount of information you provide. But i would really like chapters so when you do connect information with evidence I would love timestamps so I can go back and try to connect it myself and get a better understanding of the whole situation. Thank you.
@@TheLoreLodge love that you guys appreciate your fans reply. Super appreciated. Did that comment make sense, ha? I read it back and I def didnt word it the best.
Ive actually lived in the Edmonton area, it's not good for crime, putting it lightly. Im sure by some US city standards, it's not as bad, but it's got a reputation for being the murder capital of Alberta fot a reason. This is especially true if you're a minority, everyone likes to pretend that Canada is so good about acceptance and all that, but it's sadly not as true as we'd like to pretend. It's especially bad if you're First Nations, Id like to believe it's getting better, but ive been all over the province, and speaking for Alberta, at least, every place ive been in had some degree of racism towards Indigenous populations. Yet growing up, everyone was kept pretty ignorant of just how bad things get, it's honestly pretty disturbing when you realize that it's not all sunshine and roses. And one more thing before i get off the soapbox, in our last federal election it was a debate whether or not the reservations should get fresh water. They literally debated funding for fresh water.
Excellent video. Love your channel. So glad I found this channel. The video is very informative and interesting. Thank you for getting missing peoples names in the media ❤❤❤❤❤❤
This just makes me think the police are protecting someone. This happens in Australia too. Aboriginal women are 8 times more likely to be murdered. Though I don't know if our police are as slack as this. I hope not I know about these issues because of UA-cam channels like this. So thank you for covering it. Hopefully as it becomes more common knowledge more and more is done about it
You should do a story on the Missing Jack Family. They also went missing on this highway of tears I believe and a sister of the family still keeps a facebook page on the family's disappearance to this day
All of your stories make so much sense thank you for doing the research I know it takes a lot of effort, and especially thank you for checking into the native cases when they are so overlooked
So at one point, Aiden mentioned that Amber sounded normal and then drunk sounding, slurring a bit. Instead of alcohol, could she be drugged? Just a thought
I read in another comment that “gravol” is a brand of stomach medicine that can make you drowsy, the commenter thinks they could have been talking about her being given that- or being told she was given that- instead of talking about a “gravel” road.
Recently discovered an online friend of mine had a close friend of hers go missing in Canada back in December, who is indigenous. RCMP has given up on the case 2 months in
i think this is the first LoreLodge video I know I wont be able to finish because I perpetually live in abject fear of one day vanishing without a trace, in a situation where id much rather death then the situation these women and children are subject too... eugh
You don't have to watch this stuff, but if you ever do get taken or an attempt is made, try your best to remember you need to fight like hell. No matter what, you have to fight. Because if they take you where they're trying to, they will kill you. You might lose life or limb trying to fight, but at least you have the chance to get away or make them think it's more trouble than it's worth and run away.
@@godwarrior3403 i know for a fact if god forbid it happens all reason goes out the window im taking flesh with me under my nails or pulling eye lids off or just plain fighting nasty, my self preservation is too high, if i do end up in this situayion and i am "found" oooof theyre gonna say this woman FOUGHT LIKE A WILD ANIMAL LIKE FWM IM A VISCIOUS LITTLE MF
I hope more people cover this, missing indigenous women in Canada need more publicity especially the role of the RCMP in not investigating these properly. Thanks for holding their role in the light.
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GREAT STUFF AIDEN ! THANKS FOR DOING THIS ONE GETTING THIS INFO OUT MEANS ALOT TO US NATIVE PEOPLES WHO WATCH YOU 🫶
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@@f3yk3_17 he's in mista GG's. Basement.
"Hey my daughter is missing, she called her brother and recorded a conversation with an unknown man who was driving her to a weird location, can you look into it?"
RCMP: "IDK sounds kinda hard :/"
That still blows my mind!!! Amber was smart enough to call the person who had calls recorded. You can't pinpoint where she was? What tower that pinged off at that specific time? Granted it's not everything but it's a big damn thing to just 'Ehhh k cool here's some audio. K thanks bye '. And do nothing with it
"Oh...nah. She's not missing. Some random person at a gas station said they saw her so, obviously, she's not 'missing'.
“Also she’s indigenous”
RCMP: *whistles while looking around*
I don't understand WHY? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?! Canada is overall a very safe place to live. It's not like they're swamped with crimes. They are purposefully choosing to not investigate these. Almost makes me wonder if the serial killer is known to the police and is connected to them or a high up politician in some way. A prominent member of the communities son or themselves. It really seems like the police know who this is, they have this guy's name, they found several indigenous women's bodies. This guy is clearly a serial killer. And they don't care because he's targeting a minority. Maybe they even told him hey you can't be serial killing white women you have to go after other women or we can't look the other way. There's something going on here if they only made one "mistake" in this investigation I would be suspicious. But supposedly they made a dozen different "mistakes" and they could easily fix those mistakes right now, by arresting this guy. And they're CHOOSING not to. It's on purpose. There's no way I believe it is not on purpose.
I'm so relieved to know someone has started covering #MMIW outside of native media in mainstream media/content creating. If I could tell you the amount of times natives were being cased in parking lots near my rez? And how many native women went missing in the mid to late 2000s??? O mean the lack of info sharing and action between native, state, and federal law enforcement was just sickening back then as it is now. And I'm from WA State.
her specifically saying “i’ll be gone for two sleeps” hit me so hard. my family is native and i grew up on the rez with them, and actually saying how many “sleeps” you’re going to be away is pretty common with natives in my experience. it reminded me of my aunties and my cousins. this is tragic.
The sleeps got me too. My mom says how many sleeps until my niece will see her again because that was easier for her to understand than days. I even got a Christmas countdown for her that says sleeps til Christmas. It makes it more frustrating the RMP thinks she just dipped, you don't tell your child how many sleeps til you'll see them again if you wanted to leave.
We use that in the UK too, usually when counting down to Christmas. I hope the disappearances and Apathetic searches can be resolved soon. 😢
In the 24 years my fiancé has lived in northern Canada, he’s lost 3 female First Nations family members. One due to being murdered, and the other two are “missing” and the Canadian police told them that they had simply “ran away” due to their ages (16, 22, and 28). Amber deserves justice. ALL these First Nations women, children, and men deserve justice. It is their right as Canadians.
In Oklahoma, native women would disappear in reservations only to be found months/years later both outside and inside of the reservation. The police, both res and Oklahoman police, would ignore this and allow this to continue happen.
Found alive I hope.
Issue is that there is a lot of complex stuff when it comes to reservation police and outside police departments that can take MONTHS just to deal with. Plus reservation police only have jurisdiction IN the reservations.
Yeah, Aidan does mention some of the complications with law enforcement in the US when it comes to native populations. Even when US law enforcement can get involved, it's usually the Feds, and no one who has been paying attention to the news recently can honestly say that they feel good when they hear that the FBI is on the case.
I'm not far from Tahlequah, it's cartel traffickers masquerading as tribal members who are kidnapping a lot of girls.
We're very close to the I-40 corridor that they use to traffic drugs, guns, and girls from coast to coast.
@@markhirsch6301 the US fixed that in 2022, hoping Canada follows suit
On the note of "why would she go to Edmonton randomly?" I'm originally from northern Alberta and it is not a rare thing at all for people to randomly take a day trip to Edmonton. It's usually for recreation, since the other big cities up there are Fort McMurray or Grande Prarie, the former is seen more as a work city cause of the oil patch and the latter is closer to BC. The fact that people immediately assume she was going there for prostituition is pretty telling of how Indigenous women are so quickly victim blamed for being murdered here. It's not an imposdible chance of course, but if everyone who randomly took a trip to the capital region was going for sex work we'd have a reputation like Thailand's, to be blunt.
I live in Southern Alberta (Calgary) and I literally did that this year. Packed my bags, left a note and just up and left for a 3 day trip in Edmonton for a school event but I never told my friends and family so everyone told me how random that was. I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want others stopping me from travelling for the first time in my life. I guess i'm a prostitute now for it. It was super fun (the mall was worth it, it was like no other mall i've ever seen) and I'm lucky that it all worked out especially because when I visited a murder case was happening in the city. Indigenous women do get quickly victim-blamed and they deserve not only to not be victim-blamed but to have their case heard and their existence remembered. There's too many cases of indigenous women murders.
I'm from victoria living on the mainland now, and back on the island i met so many people from the mainland (mostly Vancouver) who would take day trips to there. ALL the time. Its like saying all of those people are going to Victoria for prostitution. It just doesn't make sense.
Yeah I'm in Saskatoon and people totally just head up to either Edmonton or Calgary for the weekend because you guys actually have stuff 😂
This lad isn't victim blaming, he's throwing out speculation because the RCMP have made sure that no evidence of this case exists or is accessible to the general public.
@DoubleWhammy i dont think op was saying that Aidan was blaming her, I think they were saying that a lot of people who have heard about this case have made that assumption, because I'm pretty sure Aidan said the assumption was made by a lot of people, and bc it honestly it's one that's made when speaking about MMIW a LOT of the time.
I’m shocked Wendigoon didn’t magically appear at the mention of Magic Spoon
I expected him to show up behind Aidan and just. “Did you say Magic Spoon.”
That'd honestly be the best cameo they could possibly do
I hope they do this for the next magic spoon sponsor
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If you hold a candle in a dark bathroom and chant "magic spoon" three times while looking in the mirror, Wendigoon will appear behind you.
The one thing that really bothers me and makes no sense is Amber leaving her son with Evangeline. She wouldn't leave him with her own mother but she leaves him with some person she barely knew? It makes me think that someone concocted a story that would encourage her to do that. Not sure what that could be but it doesn't seem like she would have left him for something frivolous.
One very vital question...why...makes zero sense...need to know more about this evanjaline girl amber went with...
Did I miss what happened to the baby. Or was it not covered? I know minors put in the system have their records hidden; and Canada seems to get to redact whatever in the heck they want... So scared he went into care because of this.
@@momsaccount-333 I'm pretty sure I read that he ended up with Amber's mom, so at least he's with loving family.
I was thinking the same thing. I find this friend to be very suspicious and can't imagine a cop not thinking the same.
I think you raise a valid point that is definitely worth investigating. However, I think it is also possible Evangeline's (eventual) story could be true for several reasons:
- First, there is a big difference between leaving your baby in a different city for 3 days & leaving him for a few hours.
- There are some cultural aspects to this - many Indigenous people have a community-based approach to child rearing and regularly rely on extended family and friends for support.
- Indigenous family units have also been irreparably damaged by Colonialism (Residential Schools, 60's Sweep, MMIWG, etc) so bonds with family members can be complicated - not just because children were forcibly taken from their families & didn't learn how to be parents themselves but also because of the legacy of abuse many of them experience. For example, Amber's relationship with her mother was inconsistent throughout her life, though they were close at the time of Amber's disappearance.
While I do believe Tutsi is right that if Amber's intention was to disappear, she would have left her son in Fort Mac with her or other family (and, honestly, would likely have told someone she needed to leave him instead of simply disappearing), I don't find it hard to believe that Amber left him with a relatively new friend for a few hours. We need to remember to look at things from the victim's perspective and not just our own. While leaving your baby with someone you had just met might feel very odd from my perspective, doing that very possibly reflected the same type of care Amber had as a young child and likely seemed much more normal.
Ive always wanted you to cover this story as Amber was my moms cousin and my auntie ❤❤ thank you for sharing her story and making more people aware of the rcmp lack of care for my aunties life
Im part native its sad how they act like we dont matter in these situations very upsetting! But mostly just want to say im sorry for your families loss 🙏
The lack of care for your aunt’s and others’ cases is deeply disturbing to me; and my heart goes out to you and your family. Everyone deserves answers and justice.
I'm sorry the RCMP dropped the ball so hard for your aunt. May she rest in peace now ❤
I’m truly sorry for your family’s loss, and that your Auntie and family (and of course every MMIW victims and families) get every piece of justice that is rightly deserved. ❤❤❤❤
I think about Amber all the time, and fervently hope for justice for her and all of the other indigenous victims (far too many). It's a travesty. 💔 This internet stranger sends you and your family love.
the gross negligence of not only the RCMP but also American police in handling missing indigenous women cases is so disgusting. It almost feels intentional. (it very well could be!)
Something Aidan mentions particularly in the US shouldn't be missed: most crimes committed on indigenous land cannot be litigated by the US itself, and when it can it's a federal matter. And, if you've been paying attention to the news recently, you know that the entire concept of Federal policing is just begging for abuse. Feds don't know the people they allegedly work for. It's easy for a Fed from urban New York to write off literally anyone from a rural area, let alone if that individual also happens to be indigenous.
In many cases it is. Some of it is burn out since N.A. communities have so many of these issues, but some of this is legit hate. The amount of people that still pine over their great, great, great granpappy 'Injun fightin' gear is disgusting.
@@Victor-bl2ge Oh yes I'm sure there are tons of people out there jerking themselves off over their ancestors killing natives. They probably hang with the secret Nazi room people every Thursday for poker night
It is.
It very much is.
Wow, the RCMP can compete with the ATF at the utter incompetence Olympics
Federal agencies as a rule are more likely to cause harm than do good. More often than not, a federal agent has no attachment to the communities he encounters, and in cases involving rural areas (let alone indigenous peoples) there is great potential for dismissive attitudes for the people they're supposed to be helping.
@@AzariahWolfwhich is why decentralization is so important couldn't agree more.
RCMP would win 100% of the time.
No, MY federal agency is more incompetent!
@@awesomearchivist1705 Tbf tho, the problems about jurisdictions that Lore Lodge highlighted would be exacerbated by having even more smaller police forces with different jurisdictions. The real issue is the uncomfortable true that so long as the natives are treated in the US as essentially a separate country, they well never receive the same treatment as other groups from the police. It’s routed in the reservation system and stubbornness from both sides. The truth is, the ugliness of the political situation is why these missing person cases go unsolved. Atleast in the states this holds true.
The trafficking idea really does seem to be the most likely one. Especially with the way the police seem to be actively hindering the case. Trafficking seems to be one of the crimes the FBI (and their Canadian equivalent) are hellbent on NOT solving. Makes it really hard not to think they are profiting from it in some way.
Yes because some judges and businenessmen with money and power are the biggest pedos and traffickers. Money can make any case disappear
I think one issue with that is they found her bones. I would think if she was being trafficked she wouldn't of been murdered but rather sold s@xually and in that case still be alive
@@therealaivoice Your not a woman are you.
@@QuartzDiamond86 *you’re
So, I tend to have a bone to pick about this case when people who are less familiar with Canadian police & their relationship with Indigenous people weigh in. I feel like people often look for a deeper meaning behind the at best apathy and at worst hostility the police have towards Amber's case and I feel like that can belittle the issue of institutional racism in Canadian law enforcement.
Basically - we have seen enough to know that Amber simply being Indigenous was enough for the police to dismiss her case & actively avoid investigating it. We saw this play out with the Vancouver RCMP in the Pickton case and many other instances. By trying to link Amber to a larger conspiracy, it feels like people are saying "there must be something more here" which makes it seem like the racism isn't enough of a problem on its own when it absolutely is.
One of my nightmares is that I will go missing in Canada and the RCMP "investigates" as the RCMP doesn't seem to bother themselves with pesky little chores like their job.
Don’t worry, we’ll investigate harder
@@TheLoreLodgeI'd have real hope I'd actually be found at that point 😂
Stay away from Canada 😅
@@chriskiefer7493 as a Canadian I can confirm
They don't have time. They have to investigate more important stuff like COVID restriction violations. Please note, I'm not Canadian and this is pure conjecture based off like...two YT videos that I heard this mentioned. Could be BS.
Hot take on Amber Tuccaro: Evangeline lied to her and pretty much sold her off to the guy who killed her, human trafficking style. She didn't care what happened after that. The guy just so happened to have a penchant for killing native women. I would also bet the reason Evangeline wasn't interviewed is because any number of people on Edmonton police force were connected to her human trafficking schemes and they didn't want to implicate themselves in a murder they didn't commit (just because somebody likes questionable coitus with essentially stolen people does not make them a murderer.)
With Canada's relatively small population in proportion to the land mass, it is highly likely that Canadian serial killers are relatives of or well connected to the local RCMP. It would explain why so many cases go almost unchecked. The locals are covering for their buddy or cousin or whoever, and then the feds can't do the job right because it was bungled so badly at the local level. Just my thoughts.
I am excited that you used Wind River. I watched that movie and researched it for my master's thesis, which is on education methods for integrating indigenous culture into public school classrooms across the US. We need to care more about the indigenous people of our land, absolutely. If we cared more, perhaps people would be less inclined to see them as targets for heinous crimes and more like the humans they are.
Totally agree yes
The number of missing indigenous women in Canada that no one seems to care about is painful. I know three indigenous women personally that disappeared up north here in Ontario, of course where the RCMP is the only law enforcement available. They don't care. They dismiss them as "they ran away", "they are on a binge", "they don't want to deal with their responsibilities", etc., etc. White girl goes missing? The entire country, and every other country gets involved. Native girls? It rarely even makes the local news. We need more people like you, who have some level of reach, to get the word out for people to care. Thank you for covering this story.
There must be government kickbacks. Wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of human trafficking and organ trade going on there that politicians are benefiting from.
They hate whites until they want our help and resources lol. Get good
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@@jokerman9623 Oh boy. Your 🤡🤡🤡 comment to Kaden or whatever is the only comment I can see. What did I miss? Some ignorant p.o.s., I assume?
This is why you trust the government as far as you can throw it.
Speculation: If Evangeline encouraged Amber to bring her son-- she was more likely to agree to it traveling with another woman, and not a man-- then he may have been used as leverage to get Amber to go with someone /"do Evangeline a favor", once they got there.
This!!! I was thinking this the whole time!
The idea of law enforcement doing everything in their power to not work feels like a Simpsons ski and should not be something real
If the policemen from the Simpsons were part of the RCMP chief Wiggum would be their most qualified officer...
@@babamukuru666Wiggum would be an improvement. I think he's actually finished more than one case
My house was robbed twice by the same guy(there was security camera evidence). That man proceeded to attempt to rob several banks. Guess what the RCMP did? Nothing
Comedy parody is based on real life
I listened to it imagining Chief Wiggum saying "Eustis R. Dewoh....better start with Greek town." Though that would imply he actually attempted to investigate, so...
Gravol is an over the counter stomach medication here in Canada , it also causes drowsiness … maybe she asked him what he gave her ? because she’s passing out and she knew something was wrong and he said “ just gravol” and she said ( dazed ) “gravol ?” Idk if that makes sense but maybe that’s what they were saying
Holy shit, you may be on to something.
I figured he drugged her, but to know there's a medication you could probably use to drug someone named something that was said on the call? Yeah, I buy this bigtime
@@bridflower5408 shit man what do I do with this information ?
@@CombinedProductions0 I honestly just had a hunch because are accent we dont say gravel how she said it she said it like the medication gravol
Glad to see you covering missing indigenous persons cases. It’s a huge issue that is vitally underreported. I’d love to see more from you on these cases in the future, perhaps it could be a series.
Couldnt agree with you more. Especially in Alaska that is a huge, HUGE problem.
@@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je i know its so sad. Bevause of that they often arent helped like they should be.
for fucking real, when i found out how many first nations women have gone missing on the Highway of Tears from an episode of the Crime Junkie podcast, and even the fact that there is a "Highway of Tears" at all, my jaw was on the fucking floor. I knew about the lack of care and attention towards missing and murdered American indigenous women, but holy fuck.
@stupidbroad a tiny amount when you see how many people all up go missing.
Honestly if possible I'd love to see a deeper dive into the Highway of Tears. Judging by the Wikipedia alone (which obviously isn't a lot to go off), it seems a lot of the victims were in fact victims of serial killers. (even if you just discussed the cases that were potentially involved with said serial killers) It might be a bit of a dark case (and long) but given how thorough you were here (I've heard this case a few times and i dont think I ever heard that the original call was 17 minutes) I think you'd do it justice.
Also I've been pretty sussed by this Evangeline(?) woman each time I've heard about this case. Not saying she had anything to do with it in a 'kahoots with the driver' kind of way but why would she blatantly lie to Amber's mother? Like how is saying she's at the hotel asleep better than saying 'oh yea she went out earlier'? Even if she wasn't directly involved, she definitely could have done something that could (keyword could) have gotten Amber found sooner.
The Highway of Tears cases do involve some serial killings but I really dislike this approach to the subject. For one thing, when this comes up the focus becomes the killers and not the victims. Plus, it speaks to the general public wanting "interesting" answers to things that are boring, well known, and, frankly, more deadly than serial killers.
The main contributing factors in the HoT murders & disappearances are endemic poverty, lack of resources, lack of infrastructure and safe transportation, Indigenous communities' justified hostility towards law enforcement & government agencies, untreated generational trauma, mental illnesses, and substance abuse (largely caused by Canada's racist and colonialist treatment of Indigenous people), and ongoing institutional racism (both bc police don't do thorough investigations to solve the crimes & bc people know that Indigenous woman are "good" targets for that reason). All of which are much more boring, pervasive, and difficult to address than unidentified serial killers.
I mean, the Manitoba PC's were literally campaigning on a promise NOT to search the Winnipeg landfill for 2 missing Indigenous women believed to have been dumped there. A video discussing that would be much more relevant.
I've heard Amber's story before but not in such great detail. Thanks for your professionalism and extra effort Aidan...and Aidan
I heard about this on Morbid I believe. At least I think this was the case, because they also spent a great deal of time going over the violence against indigenous women and indifference of the police. Great podcast if anyone's interested. Also a Chris and Eddie joint account, wow. Definitely thought one of you was dead.
I concur, love your username btw, ha.
@@godwarrior3403 Yes. Sadly Chris is gone. I'm just lost in the 90s where I left my youth 😊 Dee
I have a question how has this guy not been found supposedly. The police know he is, they know where he lives. They have him on a recorded line. They have several other women who have brought allegations against him. How are they claiming they don't know who it is 😂
I really love how this guy always goes through the history of places where these people went missing...
Oh yeah, and Aiden always goes into the pre-European history as well, which is just so rare to see
It's probably a bad thing that as an Albertan the first thing I thought when I read the title was "Failure of the RCMP, huh I wonder which incident this one is."
If it's any consolation, they're also useless in BC 😅
@@amandamacabre Its federal, so its useless all over the country, maybe slightly less the more east you go lol
@@Octahedran based on some of what I've read in the comments, I have my doubts about it getting better as it goes east ahaha.
Seems that federal agencies in all parts of North America exist only to make the lives of citizens worse.
@@amandamacabre It really doesn't. I play D&D with an Ontario RCMP officer (an actual good one - or at least he's a really great guy outside of work!), and he's always griping about how useless his coworkers are, and how little they care. Then he drinks some more.
@TheLoreLodge I'm a Métis-Cree Native from Canada. Thank you! for covering this, This is something I barely hear about up here and that is sad but I'm glad I'm hearing about it on your video. your video's are awesome!
You should look into the steady and ongoing disappearances of Native Americans in South Dakota. There have been 38 juvenile and 5 adult disappearances of Native Americans in 2023 alone.
Sounds like human trafficker activity with that breakdowns
@@TJ-bg4fw That's my go to with all this. Because of how reservations are legally set up, they are prime targets for human trafficking in North America. Reservation police don't have the resources to find the people, and federal police don't have the jurisdiction. Indigenous women can also appear racially ambiguous enough that they can be smuggled across the southern border and from there to anywhere else in the world. Fake papers and nobody would bat an eye. Sucks so bad but not a clue how to handle it.
It's a death cult
Along with the amount of body’s consistently showing up in the red river by fargo/moorhead
Im glad to see more established channels shedding light on the miscarriage of justice occuring to indigenous women in Canada with cases like this. These stories really highlight the profound lack of interest on the part of the RCMP. Great research and video!
These structured long-form videos are your best content by miles. Thanks for the great work, lads.
I live in Edmonton and the way the government and RCMP treats natives is disgusting. I'm so ashamed of this country. The fact that I know people in 2024 who have been through the residential schools, the fact that they used to dump 16 year olds into downtown Edmonton in the middle of the night from those schools and leave them to fend for themselves, I just can't believe it. I'm constantly learning about new atrocities that people simply don't talk enough about. I knew about Amber but I didn't know this much detail. Thank you for the amazingly detailed and respectful video, and for keeping her story alive.
Holy fuck man.. being dropped off downtown Edmonton during times are people were hated on at an all time high sounds like a nightmare.. they were probably chased, beaten.. everything. :/ the last residential school here shut down in the 90’s..
@@noahwhitehawk3405 I wish more people knew about it. It's one of the reasons drug problems and homelessness are such big issues downtown especially: drugs and alcohol have been used as weapons and tools of colonialism for a very, very long time. If we want to do anything about the drug epidemic we have to get to its root, and that includes understanding what was done to the indigenous people here.
@@rampasplants8043 I always give me non indigenous friends the run down & scoop of what happened.. my uncle was locked in a kitchen cupboard for 3 days.. he said that wasn’t the worst part, he said going to the washroom & having to smell you’re own fecies & urine was the worst. Now today as a 60 year old man, he’s terrified of cupboards & hates being around them.
Let me preface this with YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO DO THIS but my friend who has hitchhiked or even just gone with a guy she doesnt know in his car will send me a picture of the license plate, the car and give a description of the person she is getting in the car with. Like i said no one should have to do this but sadly this shitshow we're living in you have to take precautions as a woman, especially WOC. Please stay safe babes 💜
@wigwam1747 did you watch the video? He literally explains why at 21:00
@wigwam1747Tell me you've never been impoverished without a car and rural without telling me...
maybe even take a picture of their drivers license!!
@@dangerxbadger2300Yeah, and it was a bullshit excuse.
@maryklw excuse? Poverty and living in rural areas are things that many Americans have to deal with in their day-to-day lives. They aren't excuses. They are the facts of their lives. Not everyone has the luxury to just get up and m@. It's not an excuse. It's an inescapable reality for people in poverty. Tell me you've never had to struggle without telling me you've never had to struggle. Jesus Christ have a little bit of compassion and try to think of people in circumstances other than your own.
You can only make outgoing calls from jail, not receive incoming calls. So her brother probably did just happen to call her while she was with her abductor. Also whenever you receive a call from an inmate it plays a recording stating that the call is being recorded and telling you the name of the facility and the person calling.
the calls over the phone are almost always outgoing, but they have apps where you can call and text and those are incoming to the inmate, as well as outgoing.
I think the brother had an actual cell phone he wasn’t supposed to have and she left a 17 minute long voicemail on it. I haven’t looked into it but that’s just what I think I could be wrong
Is that universal?
Ever since I've learned about Brandon's law, I've noticed more and more that entertainment media loves using the 24hr waiting period trope. I even read a short horror story recently where the police told a character there was a 3 day waiting period before you could report someone missing. 3 DAYS.
That’s good. Because fuck the nanny state wanting to obsess over people wanting to disappear
I'm going to do that in my next short story, just have the police take 3+ days waiting periods because it's almost laughable how long it is.
Just because the police take a missing persons report before 24hrs dosnt mean they start working on it right away lol . I promise you those reports sit on desks for a couple days either way until they get around to it unless their is some concrete proof of an abduction or foul play. Other than that , they get to it when they get to it
Brandon's law only passed in 2009, and before that many police departs did make people wait to file missing persons reports. It was the normal policy for missing adults, and the wait was 24-72 hours depending on the department, either before you could file a report or before they'd start the investigation. One day is crazy if someone's in danger, let alone 3, but people really did have to wait that long. A lot of people still believe that you have to wait because of the old ways, and there's still misinformation (or old info) online. I guess it does add to a horror story because the thought of what could happen in that time, and how far away you could be, if even still alive, is terrifying.
Every fiction writer, internet commenter and such needs to not mention waiting periods as a thing that still is since it encourages the idea that they are.
Glad Lore is addressing this. I just did a research project fir a N.A. history class and the lack of people even GIVING A SHIT is infuriating. TV stations promising to help and then just not contacting the family, the cops not filing paperwork and being caught in lies...
Always nice to see someone with a platform using it to help with serious issues like this. Thank you for highlighting a very serious issue in North America as a whole, and encouraging people to reach out to their politicians and get on them to put more policies in place to help MMIW and their families. Love y'all, keep at it ^^
No thanks needed, we have a responsibility to do the right tbing
Just a tragic case, the RCMP didn't care about Amber at all and clearly put no effort into investigating the cause of these missing Indigenous women. Thank you for shedding light on this story.
As an old dude of 42. This is one of my favorite UA-cam channels. Love seeing someone with so much fuq'n passion about these topics you and your team pick. Well done 👏
If you are American and don’t have much familiarity with Canada, you did a really great job with the pronunciation of many First Nation names and locations. You also covered the story very thoroughly, more so than many Canadians would have done. Great job man! 👌🇨🇦
Hey man, just so you know, in Canada at least, you can't call in to an inmate. I was a guard for a long time, so it really was just luck!
watched this one because I remember this case being on tv when I was younger. hearing all of the details is so upsetting, realizing nothing was done properly and wondering if she could have been saved... thank you for bringing light to these cases, it is so so important and canada (and america) need to do so much better to protect their citizens :(
Definitely have watched other videos about this case, but this is without a doubt the best and most in depth I've seen. It's such a sad case and the RCMP should be ashamed
It's funny considering the bodies situation discussed @32:00 that they didn't think there was a serial killer, when a similar situation on Long Island, New York was postulated to possibly be a turf war between multiple serial killers. Canada says, "nothing to see here." while the US goes "Those are rookie numbers, we gotta pump those numbers up!".
I spent many years in Montana, including my senior year in high school and one of my closest friends with a member of the Blackfoot tribe. She had so many relatives go missing over the years, and it was so bad that they just didn't even bother calling it in most of the time because they knew nothing would be done. Anyone who doubts racism being alive and well in America isn't paying attention. Thank you, Aidan for bringing more awareness to Amber's case and to the MMIW epidemic being faced by our indigenous sisters. ❤
Rascism isn't a thing in America you idiots wanted them to have there own rules and police so when there local cops end up being 20x more corrupt than white cops you blame is us
Thank you for covering this case and issue. I’ve known about MMIWG for a little while now but hearing the personal details here really put it into perspective. This is a horrific injustice happening in two “modern” countries that claim to value the safety of their citizens. It’s sick.
thanks so much for bringing awareness to MMIW cases and how inept the RCMP is at doing their job
This is such a heartbreaking case. Thank you for covering these cases that the media is often silent about and don't get talked about enough. Clearly the RCMP could have done more and it's horrifying that her life could have been saved or her killer could have been found if they had of actually done their jobs.
Thanks for drawing attention to this issue, I grew up in Fort McMurray and now live in Edmonton and the complete disregard for missing indigenous people and the complete ineffectiveness of the RCMP always frustrates.
A friend of mine from fort Mac told me that kids that looked poor or didn't have brand name clothes got bullied alot. Do you agree with that? I am wondering if Amber got pressured into overspending/indebted to Evangeline (or someone else) and did something risky to make up for it.
I’m so glad you covered this case. This case is one I’ve followed for a while. And she deserves justice
THANK YOU. not nearly enough people are aware of the RCMP’s malicious neglect towards missing indigenous women. it is a systematic problem that canada has faced for generations and we are sick and tired of it because we want a safe and equal country for all like we say we are.
🇨🇦 here. I share your assessment of the capabilities and motivations (or lack of them) of our ‘storied’ RCMP. Your videos on the MMIW is a source of utter amazement to me. Amazement that it is so utterly absent in our country’s media. I live between two reservations here in New Brunswick and although one of my closest friends in indigenous, have lived most of my 79 years as ignorant of the daily lives of natives as, to be fair, I am of the daily lives of my non native community. I retired to my home province after years of living in Toronto, Vancouver, Barrie, and China. The last 13+ years being spent in China, I was almost completely unengaged with daily life (social & political) having access through only VPN connections to mass mainstream. In those years channels like UA-cam, Facebook, and Twitter was spotty at best, and they largely were on track with mainstream media. Back ‘home’ my information was almost limited to the mainstream narrative. Those that veered away from that narrative were discounted as ‘conspiracy theorists’. My trusted source of news and interpretation were pervasive, a problem I failed to question as a lifetime of confidence had led me to believe were trustworthy. My bad. Although better than average knowledge of the Bible, the warnings to the Israelites of the perils of having kings, had not registered as being pertinent to life in the modern West. Again, my bad. Thank you so much for all your channels. If you should err (which will happen giving human frailties) I believe you will do so not to mislead, but to misinterpret and, shown error, will not be afraid to backtrack. God bless.😅
One thing that I really wish you'd addressed in this video is what happened to Ms. Tuccaro's son. I understand he was left at the hotel room with Evangeline. Who has cared for him for the past 13 years? Is he being raised by Tootsie? As a mother myself, I can't help but be concerned for the child who was left motherless by this tragedy.
I was working in Nisku in 2010, and never heard about this at the time. I also lived in downtown Edmonton, where a lot of off-reserve natives were dealing with one or more of: homelessness, addiction, sex work.
I saw a lot of vulnerable people. I worried about them, they were soft targets. We knew they were being targeted by at least one serial killer and that Project Care was a joke.
They deserve better policing than they get from the RCMP and EPS.
I appreciate you covering a case like this. MMIW needs to be talked about more
Thank you so much for doing a video on MMIW.
I've pretty much watched your entire catalog at this point, and it has made me realize something. Your work makes me reconsider using the phrase "armchair detective" as a pejorative. Super insightful stuff.
Your channel has been a fixation since I found it recently. Pretty sure I watched 50% of your videos within the first few nights of subbing. Your knowledge and research along with the mysterious and creepy content you cover has become comforting for me as I heal my mental health lately. Just wanna say thanks and keep it up!
I'm on board with the connected serial killer hypothesis for this case. The conduct of law enforcement is eerily similar to a sheriff's department in my state where one of the higher up deputies was a serial rapist and other deputies covered for him. The behavior matches almost exactly.
I have read yes RCMP can not be trusted here in Canada as a indigenous woman I would know
Thank you so much for doing some research into this and using your position to make it more public! My sister tried to do a research paper about the MMIW phenomenon for school and ran into the same problem. That being that there is ciminally little information available on the subject.
Thanks for covering stories about our missing indigenous peoples of Canada. It is simply always pushed under the rug when it comes to missing /murders cases. As a plains cree from Sask, Thank you for the recognition.
You should do a video on “Starlight Tours” if you want a perfect example of just how, not just unhelpful but actively harmful the RCMP and police are to indigenous people here in Canada. The injustice and disparity in treatment towards the indigenous peoples whose land we stole is probably our biggest national shame. And of course our governing bodies are more interested in meaningless gestures and reconciliation than we are actually towards actually getting to the root of the problem and providing much needed supports. It makes me sick.
As someone who has spent practically his whole life in Edmonton I can attest that it’s fairly common for people from Calgary/rural Alberta to take a weekend trip to do some shopping at WEM
Thank you for bringing this to light it needs to be spoken about much, much more.
Im glad the stories of MMIW has reached other media, so disgusting that Canada rarely puts the cases in the news. Then again indigenous murders are rarely reported it the US too. Im glad online creators are bringing awareness
Because the reservations stay tight lipped over the issues.
@randomusername5242 no it has more to do with the US government either ignoring the harm done to or being actively antagonistic to indigenous people, especially indigenous women, are subjected to, more often then not by the government itself. Canada is pretty much the same story. Indigenous people are a group that still actively have an ongoing genocide against them.
It's always fun when commenters conveniently ignore the information in the video about the way that jurisdiction issues get in the way of US law enforcement helping. It's certainly disturbing that indigenous women have gone missing, but a community does not get to demand to govern and police themselves and then complain that their host nation doesn't help them with law enforcement.
@@randomusername5242Making that claim is about as useless as making the claim that all missing indigenous women are killed by white nationalists. Neither one is going to help solve the problem, because both rely on biased views.
It's much more relevant, as Aidan even notes, that massive levels of poverty among the native population makes indigenous women more likely to be hitchhikers in the first place, and the general lack of Federal interest in the lives of their citizens. I can't speak for Canada, but in the US the situation for Native Americans is a wonderful test case for how socialism produces a lazy, indifferent population that produces the kind of poverty described above.
@@AzariahWolf
I didn't say all. The vast majority are killed by their fellow natives. Otger than that, I agree.
that's the first time I heard someone else saying what I was thinking, she sounded sedated at one point....it sounds awful...she must have been so scared, call for justice is kinda over already, I hope her soul found her way to peace.
I am genuinely surprised that the mention of Magic Spoon didn't summon Wendigoon to your location
Thank you for making this video, Aiden. This was an outstanding presentation. It is so important to continue to raise awareness on this topic
As an Albertan, I can confirm, Edmonton sucks. Visit but don’t live there, you could literally go anywhere else. Except Surrey BC
I'd probably avoid prince George aswell
As a British Columbian (also born in Surrey), I can confirm the last part. Surrey is getting worse all the time too.
What about south surrey? I used to live on 2nd ave.
In the grande prairie area now in alberta
No doubt, stay the hell away from Prince George
Much praise and respect to you for your thorough research. thank you thank you thank you🙏
Just a side note, most inmates phone systems (in the US anyways) work on an outgoing call only basis. In other words, you can’t call the inmates, they call you when they are allowed phone time… you add money to an account, and they aren’t cheap. The system sounds exactly like the one in the recording, for my area, and I’m fairly certain it’s common practice in US and Canada.
The more I ask around the more certain I am that these calls are outgoing only from inmates… they are also automatically recorded and saved, they probably didn’t even bother checking for it until then. Anyway love the vids, keep ‘em coming
Canada may allow in-calling on their prison phone systems because it’s simply more lenient. I can totally see it working that way there.
I am so glad to see someone with a platform like yours use it to speak about this issue. Especially given your consistent ability to lead with empathy and care for victims and their families. It's one of the few channels like this I can watch, as so many others sensationalize it. I have great respect for the way you do things here. If you or anyone else would like a valuable book recommendation on a similar issue involving Indigenous youth, I highly recommend Tanya Talaga's "Seven Fallen Feathers". Another book, on the Highway of Tears, is written by Jessica McDiarmid and titled "Highway of Tears".
Thank you for covering mmiw cases, it means alot to our community
The situation is so bad, that when I lost my sister in 2020 my first thought was "are they even going to investigate her case". Ambers case and then now my sisters as well have made me so wary of going for a walk and make me nervous when i see another native girl by herself.
I remember this case. So heartbreaking, poor Amber and her family too.
The thing is. You can't call people in jail. They can only call out. So as coincidental as it seems, he, luckily, I mean because it was recorded, he called her. I'm shocked/surprised her mom was unaware of the call, if it's her full not half brother, and there's no bad blood, between the son and mom. I find it odd he wouldn't have immediately called his mother and told her what he just heard, if he tried calling his sister back and was unsuccessful. But he definitely called her. There's no way she could have called him in the jail. Jail phones are one way, not two.
4:12 this is the most verbal information I’ve ever gotten about my Ojibwa heritage, I’m Chippewa-Cree, and it was really nice to hear about them and how exactly they fit into the Ojibwa group.
This hits too close to home. My aunt passed away under what my family has considered suspicious circumastance due to the state in which my mom told me her body was found. My aunt had moved back to what i was told was the reservation she grew up on in SD and i was told that due to it being on the reservation, it was unlikely anyone was going to look into it further.
My next venture is going to request any possible police reports about her case to see exactly what was reported. But that side of my family believes she was murdered and in the same belief that nothing will ever be done about it.
Thank you for bringing awareness to this extremely tragic and ongoing epidemic.
Im so grateful you guys covered this. I used to talk about mmiw and femicide in the Americas and This has giving me inspiration to bring this back up. There isn’t enough attention for indigenous and native missing people.
I love that you work to bring awareness to just and good causes!!!
Decades ago, a woman called into the Art Bell show, they were discussing serial killers, I think, but the conversation was temporarily diverted to child trafficking.
She claimed she was approached by a man to talk these girls, he supposedly had abducted to be sold into slavery, into accepting their fate.
The woman said she refused the offer but I’m not sure why she didn’t turn him in.
Of course, this is a memory and memory is a face on the water.
Still loving your videos guys. They get better and better. I will say was just looking at your channel and I cannot believe your Gabbi P video is only ranked #9 on your popular videos list. In my opinion it is the best video about her on UA-cam. Not to bring up a sore subject but ya, just kind of surprising.
You should look up the Jack family that vanished. Well, "vanished". Someone saying they could give them a logging job and could provide daycare at a logging camp scooped all four of them into his truck and they all just... poofed into the ether. Indigenous family, mom, dad, two young kids slated for school in a few weeks. And the haunting message the dad left for his mom.
"If I don't come back, come looking for me."
I think it'd be right up your alley.
Thank you for bringing this soul wrenching issue to our people to the forefront. You are greatly appreciated and I wish many blessings to come upon you, your Videos/Podcasts and Family. There are women who are beautiful people who have families that love them. It's time that their Spirits be brought home to their People. Give the families the peace they long for. Justice will prevail.
i used to hitchhike to get to school as a kid, so that makes this way more terrifying 💀
Thank you for making a video about this ! I feel like mmiw doesn't get talked about enough cause it's not "interesting" enough
RCMP: Our work here is done.
The people: But you didn't do anything!
RCMP: *Trots away.*
As a Canadian and as an Indigenous women I get so worried when people talk about MMIWG or Indigenous topics… I worry that underlying biases may pop up.
But the way you cover about it. I applaud you! I applaud you for using your platform to bring awareness on this topic!!!! It is a very serious problem not only in Canada but everywhere. Our women and girls are going missing and or turning up murdered and the lack of justice is infuriating and disappointing. The lack of coverage is also heartbreaking. Our people don’t get the national headlines or a true investigation.
Damn, you've become one of my favorite youtubers. I'm happy I found you through watching wendigoon
I like your videos! I appreciate all the in-depth study you do in order to present a well-rounded story. I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned your pronunciation of some of the names. I am Metis, which is pronounced may-tee. Thanks!
Hey, also, can you guys please start doing chapters in your videos? You guys do such a good job with the amount of information you provide. But i would really like chapters so when you do connect information with evidence I would love timestamps so I can go back and try to connect it myself and get a better understanding of the whole situation. Thank you.
We’re trying to do them more consistently!
@@TheLoreLodge love that you guys appreciate your fans reply. Super appreciated. Did that comment make sense, ha? I read it back and I def didnt word it the best.
@@BWalsh737 yes don’t worry
@@TheLoreLodge Ha, thanks
Thank you for covering this
Ive actually lived in the Edmonton area, it's not good for crime, putting it lightly. Im sure by some US city standards, it's not as bad, but it's got a reputation for being the murder capital of Alberta fot a reason.
This is especially true if you're a minority, everyone likes to pretend that Canada is so good about acceptance and all that, but it's sadly not as true as we'd like to pretend. It's especially bad if you're First Nations, Id like to believe it's getting better, but ive been all over the province, and speaking for Alberta, at least, every place ive been in had some degree of racism towards Indigenous populations. Yet growing up, everyone was kept pretty ignorant of just how bad things get, it's honestly pretty disturbing when you realize that it's not all sunshine and roses.
And one more thing before i get off the soapbox, in our last federal election it was a debate whether or not the reservations should get fresh water.
They literally debated funding for fresh water.
Excellent video. Love your channel. So glad I found this channel. The video is very informative and interesting. Thank you for getting missing peoples names in the media ❤❤❤❤❤❤
This just makes me think the police are protecting someone.
This happens in Australia too. Aboriginal women are 8 times more likely to be murdered. Though I don't know if our police are as slack as this. I hope not
I know about these issues because of UA-cam channels like this. So thank you for covering it. Hopefully as it becomes more common knowledge more and more is done about it
Glad you made a video about this ❤
You should do a story on the Missing Jack Family. They also went missing on this highway of tears I believe and a sister of the family still keeps a facebook page on the family's disappearance to this day
All of your stories make so much sense thank you for doing the research I know it takes a lot of effort, and especially thank you for checking into the native cases when they are so overlooked
So at one point, Aiden mentioned that Amber sounded normal and then drunk sounding, slurring a bit. Instead of alcohol, could she be drugged? Just a thought
Potentially, but part of me thinks it was fear making her slur and stumble over words. My heart breaks for this woman.
I read in another comment that “gravol” is a brand of stomach medicine that can make you drowsy, the commenter thinks they could have been talking about her being given that- or being told she was given that- instead of talking about a “gravel” road.
@@loremipsum303 oh maybe
THANK YOU!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ this is an excellent report and helps to raise awareness.
Canadians online: "Wow, America is sooo racist."
RCMP: "Hold my Elsinore, please."
Recently discovered an online friend of mine had a close friend of hers go missing in Canada back in December, who is indigenous.
RCMP has given up on the case 2 months in
i think this is the first LoreLodge video I know I wont be able to finish because I perpetually live in abject fear of one day vanishing without a trace, in a situation where id much rather death then the situation these women and children are subject too... eugh
You don't have to watch this stuff, but if you ever do get taken or an attempt is made, try your best to remember you need to fight like hell. No matter what, you have to fight. Because if they take you where they're trying to, they will kill you. You might lose life or limb trying to fight, but at least you have the chance to get away or make them think it's more trouble than it's worth and run away.
@@godwarrior3403 i know for a fact if god forbid it happens all reason goes out the window im taking flesh with me under my nails or pulling eye lids off or just plain fighting nasty, my self preservation is too high, if i do end up in this situayion and i am "found" oooof theyre gonna say this woman FOUGHT LIKE A WILD ANIMAL LIKE FWM IM A VISCIOUS LITTLE MF
@@justempress7876I like the way you think.
I hope more people cover this, missing indigenous women in Canada need more publicity especially the role of the RCMP in not investigating these properly. Thanks for holding their role in the light.
My great grandpa on my mom's side ditched his wife and 12 kids to join the RCMP, it tracks that they'd be deadbeats.
Wow imagine ditching ur wife and kids to be a bootlicker
Damn imagine ditching ur wife and kids to be a boot licker that’s sad