I think they should start sending equipment in September. If the FAA don't approve it NOW,then they have a month to ship everything to Europe to launch before the window of opportunity closes. That's the FAA PLAN,To Sabatoge this rare window of opportunity. If nothing else,place as many Artamus Starships in the moon's orbit as possible.
After 40+ years as a government contractor and working several contracts with the FAA, their present foot dragging is not unusual. The FAA has their favorite contractors and they are opposed to changes. FAA is so slow they have to speed up to stop.
No, they didn't. They said they're pushing SpaceX to be like how their pushing Boeing , because Boeing is failing as well. People need to stop confusing the safety of Falcon and Starship.
@@dsmoke1972 If that were the case, why is Boeing experiencing far more critical failures than SpaceX, not just on it's Starliner, but it's airline fleet? Pretty poor comparison, if so.
Senator: Was the hold up due to safety? FAA: There were papers that they forgot to fill out, and they didn't sign the proper documents needed for the next launch. Senator: But was the hold up due to safety reasons? FAA: There were papers that they forgot to fill out, and they didn't sign the proper documents needed for the next launch. Senator: But was the hold up due to safety reasons? FAA: Proper signatures and permission needed to proceed. Senator: SMH.
One thing that got me about the FAA's response on the Flight 5 license, is how they point out that the license for Flight 4 was good for multiple launches and that it was SpaceX's own fault for wanting to change that causing the delays....and while yes that's true....on the other hand the FAA has known from the start that SpaceX is doing rapid iterative prototyping and the launches are by that nature going to be different. Yet offer no way to license for that. Supposedly the 2 month delay is because any changes that could affect the environment need a 60 day review. They've reviewed this same area something like half a dozen or more times now. How many times do they need to go over the same information and why do they need 60 days to do it? I'm all for safety and protecting the environment but what we're seeing right here is why it's taken over 50 years to get back to the moon. Nothing significant will ever get done while moving at the pace of bureaucracy.
Look at how long and the tragedies that happened while the auto was becoming a thing. Laws and other rules came about after fact. Some times said laws were clueless.
They changed their flight plan, that caused the extra delay, crashing in the water is what was approved in the old launch license, not possibly slamming into the tower and exploding a tank farm and launch complex, completely different scenarios apply.
As I just wrote, last time SpaceX was NOT planning to fly a booster from the sea the the land. So if he missed the boster could be blown up and would fall into the water. But THIS time they are headed to the land from the sea and if they miss it might hit someone's house. If if they blow it up, the 10,000 little bits might land who knows where. So the risk analysis is harder. Even with a Flight Termination Sytems (a.k. "self destruct") if the booster is heading outside the range, blowing it up might scatter the parts over and even wider area and hit more stuff. I'm sure they can find rules for the use of FTS that "work" but there must be 100 use cases to think about and you need iron-clad arguments that each is safe even in the worst possible case. They need to look at the impact ellipse for debris from uncontrolled flybacks and there are more ways to be uncontrolled than there are controlled.
The FAA is not going to tell you who at the agency has been purchased by the competitors to SpaceX, so, you can hang up your expectations of "transparency". There is no transparency in a corrupt agency.
Don't worry, just trust elon. When it comes to transporting travelers you ALWAYS want to move fast and break things. More so when there's no chance at rescue s/
@@markjacobs8584 the FAA’s sole purview is public safety. Starship launches over water, returns to desolate Starbase. This is pure political malice, administration directed obstruction. Pure evil by butt hurt Democrat thugs.
the hard part of Starship-based sample return is refueling Starship after it lands. Then do you remove test flight #1? Bits of the launch pad bounced into the engines and damaged them. You can't launch Starship from "bare dirt". You need a real launch pad with a flame trench and a fuel depot. Going to Mars is the easy part, launching a return mission is not possible without some extensive infrastructure on Mars. The way Starship COULD be used is to use it to send a solid fuel accent rocket to the surface of Mars. The accent rocket goes to Mars-orbit with the samples but Starship never leaves. Mars. But in any case what Starship does is lower the cost of launching Mars-bound cargo. But historically the cargo going to Mars is more than 10X the cost of the launch. So even if Starship is free, we only save about 10% of the mission cost. For example, the $4 Billion rover cost $250 Million to launch. Space missions have always been like that. Musk is working hard to make the lowest-cost part of the mission cheaper. This is a good long-term plan but will not help with the short term.
@@chrisalbertson5838 SpaceX is planning to do all of this anyway. 1. Starship is using methane and oxygen as fuel exactly because these are easy to produce on Mars. 2. Check out the Moon lander. It has a ring of thruster near the top to avoid kicking up the dirt. Could work on Mars too. 1/3 gravity, helps a lot. 3. Mars probes are expensive because launching is expensive. They have to be very light and extremely reliable, both driving up cost. And working against each other, which drives up cost exponentially. If you have regular cheap transport to Mars, you can afford cheap payloads that are heavy and less reliable. 4. See Starlink satellites. Their cost is in the hundreds of thousands, not millions or billions.
@@chrisalbertson5838 I'm pretty sure I already replied to this. Stupid UA-cam deleting my posts again. 1. Look up the Moon lander. It has a ring of small engines near the top, to avoid kicking up dirt. 2. The methane-oxygen fuel was selected partially because it's easy to make on Mars. 3. Cargo was historically expensive because of the combination of severe mass constraint and the required very high reliability. That's a brutal engineering problem. Starship solves both. With a 200+ ton cargo capacity and low cost, mass is not an issue anymore. And that with mass production also allows sending multiple probes, which means no need for extreme reliability. Starlink satellites cost a few hundred thousand dollars, not hundreds of millions or billions.
Because Starliner is a payload, not the launch vehicle. The vehicle that starliner launched on (Atlas V) had no issues, so there is no basis for a fine or investigation on that.
@@sysbofh Doesn't have to be conflict of interest. The FAA could simply add an expedited approval service, with fees 10X higher than normal, and that would fund the extra headcount and boxes of paper, lol.
Thanks for the vid man, very good work, easy to understand and very good visuals 👌🙏 Thanks to the French channel "Le journal de l'espace" who often recommends you in his vids, very cool treasure dug here 👍
I'm curious if the decision to recover the booster parts was made before or after they were told about the FAA 2 month delay. I wonder if it was something they wanted to do but just didn't have enough time to do it, but the delay allowed them to do it. If SpaceX isn't tempted to just say "F it! Send it!" then they aren't passionate about doing what they're doing. If they actually do "Send it!" without FAA approval then they're not smart enough to be doing what they're doing.
You comply your way into government tyranny, but you can’t comply your way out of it. There is no FAA reasoning, only unprincipled empty-suits willing to obstruct/delay American space to carry out partisan administration political malice. Elon Musk has tremendous courage, integrity & principles to expose, confront, call out FAA political corruption. You should try it.
No one knows since no time machine have been constructed yet. Who cares when, they just inovate and look at past wrecked rockets to get better. Not calling them smart is an unsmart comment imo. You seem not passionate about SpaceX or am i totally misunderstanding?
I love how you paint with a brush of optimism no matter the company or country, everyone gets a fair shake for a review. Bravo! Job well done! Thank you for sharing!
As the robots improve, there will be less and less reason to send humans to space. Except as tourists, or maybe retirement resorts. Even an older person with bad knees could walk fine in low gravity. Space is the place for retired trillionaires.
@@chrisalbertson5838 There will be less and less reason not to send people. A lot of people wants to go to space just for the experience, and many would choose to live there. It's all over human history, like the colonization of America. Population pressure, political pressure, social pressure, curiosity, adventure, etc. Lots of reasons to leave. And once humans get a foothold somewhere, there's no turning back. Like those who fly to America today never think about America as a colony, or the frontier, it's just another place where humans live. The same will happen to Mars and other planets in the next few hundred years.
@@rudra.patel.001 The point is to have a 1:1 replacement of human workers. A humanoid robot fits into the same places, can navigate the same environment, can use the same tools, can operate the same machines, etc. Any other form factor would require redesigning everything, and the benefits aren't clear. Later there will be other form factors, for more specific roles, but for now the humanoid form is the most practical due to it's generality, compatibility, and proven usefulness.
Am I the only one that sees the huge difference between BO & SpaceX? Bezos has a one-off/prototype shop set up. SpaceX has a Starship Giga-Factory & simultaneously prototyping. Bezos will never catch up...
Ought to watch the Tim Dodd interview with Bezos- they're building a factory as they go too, but clearly not as fly/boom/learn as SpaceX is. They are preparing for production. Almost a hybrid approach, lots more time spent designing/simulating... I'm a SpaceX fan for sure, but I expect there's a good chance we're all impressed when BO finally does fly. Just very different approaches, I think both have their pros and cons.
If the booster is so important for the analysis of what went wrong with the engines that failed, why wait so long to retrieve them in the first place ?
I think getting them is a "plan B", to get around FAA delays. The original plan would be to launch as fast as possible, meaning it would be pointless to get the wreckage from the sea.
A Very quick search shows that Space X has approximately 13,000 employees. A Very quick search shows that the FAA has approximately 45,000 employees. 1 innovates at the speed of a rocket and 1 is having trouble slowing that rocket down. But they are looking for more staff to make sure that they can. Seems to me that the Staff shift needs to go down not up. :)
@@TheOfficial007actually, most government offices are legally required to read through most of the messages. They might not make it to anyone important, but they will definitely make it to someone.
@slimeking101 you know I am joking, right? Yes, government offices are required to read such messages, but I'm sure they are more than happy to hide behind the we get so much mail we can't do our job.
The new nose cone definitely looks better. The welding seams look more finely dressed and smooth. The overall shape looks like the metal has been “worked” perhaps an outside pressure roller with an inside form that it is fitted against.
i saw the interview of the FAA where they said spacex moved the tank farm closer to the population so need to give a risk safty report ..when they had acctually moved it twice as far away from the population. the FAA hadent even bothered to check it. ( someone is pulling the FAA stings ) p.s booster parts recovery they also recovered over 30 of the engines as well.
I’m glad that blue origin and ULA are moving forward, hopefully the extra pressure from these other companies can help the FAA understand the need to streamline the review and launch licensing process
FAA licenses commercial launches of U.S. Companies from the inside and outside the US. Yes, Rocket Lab operates under an FAA license. It's funny that only SpaceX seems to have problems following the rules. Could it be that the ultra rich are above the law?
Dream Chaser is the ever delayed project that has been in development for 20 years 😂. I probably could have made Dream Chaser in my garage in that time
6:29 when welding stainless it heats up and expands. So it looks like they have figured out a way to either dissipate the heat to keep it from expanding or figure out how to weld it at a cooler temperature.
The launch licence process is fine, the problem is the FAA dropped the ball and failed to ramp up their launch licence department in line with needs of the industry. Typical government, always reactive and even then super slow to react.
@@schrodingerscat1863 The launch license process is not fine! The FAA insists on using arbitrary reasons for delaying a prototype vehicle as the FAA's director's testimony showed. He claimed that part of the problem was SpaceX's constant changing of technical parameters. Of course, changes will happen on a regular basis as the vehicle is still in the experimental stage. Or, FAA's complaint that the tank farm was placed closer to population centers when in fact it was placed two miles farther. All of these so-called safety concerns sound hollow, but do ring of politics. This particular administration does not like Elon Musk for his stance against government censorship. it's that simple.
@@livingthejourney8833 The reasons for delay aren't arbitrary, they have to follow the law so if some of it seams arbitrary change the laws that make it necessary. EPA and all the red tape it generates is one of the things that desperately needs reform.
Imagine being mr. Whitaker the moment you stepped away from the path of innovation and a giant rocket fell on the house of everyone's favorite young tiktok star..?
@@schrodingerscat1863 in these types of things there’s always a technicality - which when you look backwards in time, are selectively applied. Get out of the way!
The FAA's job is to make sure the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed. The whole point of having launch licenses is to make sure all laws and regulations are being followed, and the FAA needs to check with the other departments to make sure all requirements have been met before they can issue a license.
Can't iterate if the FAA are going to choke SpaceX everytime they do. NASA needs to step in and tell the FAA that enough is enough, stop being dickheads and focus on your tasks and not anything b they can think of to BLOAT their importance.
The FAA is no longer fit-for-purpose and needs RADICAL review to keep Boeing honest in ALL of its operations (not least its commercial aircraft division, but in the context of this channel's primary interest the utter dumpster fire that is Starliner), let alone getting out of the way of other companies to responsibly pursue the new reality of how fast spaceflight development SHOULD happen these days.
It was a huge pivot when SpaceX abandoned their plans to build Starship in LA. Those images of the BFR tanks were taken in a building in San Pedro. I recall some discussion of union workers wanting some guarantees about SpaceX activities. It was the right move to take the project to Boca Chica.
As per my view I think Chinese reusable rockets will take over Americans if faa hinders space x development on starship. China is fast growing in rocket rnd and could one day surpass every country .
starship can be used as an icbm. its 100% a national security issue. this would have not been happening 50 years ago. this tells you what side the faa is on. its not freedom loving Americans, its the globalist and their puppet nations.
The issue with safety is that the FAA could do all their paperwork and deem everything safe, approve the launch, and the rocket could still explode at the worst possible time causing exactly what the FAA wanted to avoid. There is no 100% guarantee with rockets.
Yeah so they had no problem approve launch 2 when launch 1 literally destroyed the pad, launched rocks all over the place, and the rocket exploded mid air with the explosifs not working when they ment to. But they cant give a licence for launch 5 when launch 4 literally was an absolute success 😂😂 faa are clowns
And just like Ocean Gate, when the thing fails, and people die, who gets the heat? The Government regulatory commissions who are asked, "how could you allow this to happen". So fucking tired of Billionaires thinking the Earth is their sandbox.
Is it a mistake for Musk to just ignore the FAA and accept fines when they are lower cost than the cumulative daily cost of waiting, and launch on his own schedule?
Personally I think he's close to the threshold of just going for it and eating whatever fines they send, possibly even a double launch if the first one is successful
@@AnthonyRomero-w8u Yeah, imo there could eventually be a political push to extricate the FAA from constant embarrassment by reducing oversight of experimental spaceflight and concentrating on aviation/airspace safety.
The penalty for ignoring the regulatory authority and launching without permission isn't fines - it's prison time. Rocket-launch companies going rogue is *not* something the government will take lightly.
@@simongeard4824 I read the FAA only had the authority to issue Civil penalties, but I also assumed as you do, so I wonder what law exactly would they be prosecuted under to get prison time, if anyone knows.
@@simongeard4824 that's simply not how it works lol MAYBE it will but there's no precedent to assume so Why do you say it'll be the most extreme scenario, you wouldn't happen to be trying to hinder the growing push to tell him to just go for it are you🤨
@14:07 They probably need to launch many more than you espoused as it's going to take over 10 launches by some analysis to fill a single ship with propellant for one outbound journey. That's why the Boosters don't have landing legs, trying to increase mass to orbit.
Thank Ocean Gate and stop blaming the FAA. Billionaires running around ignoring regulations and safety rules is what is causing this. You think this delay just accidentally happening right as the Coast Guard and US Navy is up to it's ass in hearings right now?
I wouldn't want to live in a world without an effective FAA. The FAA just needs to hire new folks to handle the additional workload of a robust commercial space launch industry, not "neutered."
@@rogerrussell9544 that’s a load of horseshit. The FAA does the hard and needed work of keeping it safe to fly in the U.S. and to be safe from aircraft falling out of the skies. When’s the last time you consciously worried about aircraft safety? If the FAA was ineffective you can kiss that world goodbye.
that payload door appear to still be a problem, due to its' size. Here's an idea - make the door a pice that is held in place by a simple mechanism inside the starship, which is jettisoned before deployment of the starlinks. Once the final starlink has been deployed, a second payload door is then pushed into the gap from the inside & locked in place, replacing the original jettisoned payload door
Is it true that everything SpaceX does falls under national security? And because of this they are unable to recruit talent outside of the USA. So, wouldn't it be beneficial for the USA and its security to SAFELY hurry up the FAA, as any hardware lost at sea, could potentially be salvaged by a foreign adversary and back engineered to close the gap. Landing back on US soil reduces that risk.
One warning to the engineers, RCA's historically take a LONG time and if they plan on doing any metallurgy they should use a 3rd party that works with many different companies and can get a result to them quickly.
You looked into your channel metrics so there's 2 million people that watch and don't subscribe why do you keep pushing... If they haven't subscribed by now they probably don't want to
While your statement as to the cause of the foot dragging by the FAA is true, the means of implementing this policy is due to the fact that virtually everything in the Federal government which the democrats have touched since Obama lied it's way into power has been weaponized and now it is routine for them to slow everything down or block it altogether, if they don't like your politics. The same goes for the Texas state agencies where the woke, leftist democrats have burrowed deep into the state bureaucracy. All of these government termites should be identified and then personally sued for these intentional obstructions. In addition these insolent and useless liberals should all be fired and lose all their government pensions for this as well.
I think the new large frames with the angle are parts for the flame trench outside of the orbital launch pad. Directing flame needs mass to reduce vibration and subsequent degradation of the the structure. With new attention to environmental factors, additional treatment of the launch and landing exhaust fumes.
@@dphuntsman I have watched the EPA ruin whole industries and fine small farmers out of business over incorrect or politically motivated claims (remember the “wetlands” hysteria?) only to later be reversed by the courts.
@@dphuntsman All of this is the usual woke, work from home, overpaid, under worked, leftist government hacks not doing what they are paid to do and also intentionally slowing things down because Elon Musk is not a leftist termite.
@uzlonewolf don't be absurd, they need to find ways to stream line their process. They kept stating they various information, all of which spacex has provided for quite a while now but it takes them forever. Same with our immigration process. For example, I provided a translation for our marriage certificate but it took so long, over 2 years, that they said they needed a new translation because it was expired. Like the words changed??
@@jamesf2697 I'm not disagreeing with that, but it's not necessarily the FAA's fault. If Congress made one of the FAA's requirements be check to make sure all fish and wildlife regulations are met, and it's the Fish and Wildlife Service's job to do that, how is the Fish and Wildlife Service demanding more documentation and taking forever to process it the FAA's fault?
Like I said before, and I will say it again. If the FAA continues to delay mankind's progress to space, they will be sidelined! They are NOT indispensable!
Later, when a 5,000T steel vehicle filled with propellant crashes into a city: "How could the government let this happen!! Where was the agency who was supposed to be overseeing them??"
@@dphuntsman you know this delay is totally based on the fact that the left is still butt hurt because Musk fixed twitter and took away the left's echo chamber. You know that if Musk were an activist democrat termite that there would be zero delay from the FAA or Texas state agencies on this launch program. Why do you just lie?
Wooden the impact from splashdown and then the impact from hitting the bottom of the ocean do damage to the boosters? How will they know what was flight damage and what was from flight
Will SpaceX be able to launch Starships to Mars by 2026? What do you think?
I am optimistic.
At this rate, they might have to do it without FAA's approval and pay a fine!
Will the FAA be reformed by then? Improved? Will they out the current head?
No chance!
I think they should start sending equipment in September. If the FAA don't approve it NOW,then they have a month to ship everything to Europe to launch before the window of opportunity closes.
That's the FAA PLAN,To Sabatoge this rare window of opportunity.
If nothing else,place as many Artamus Starships in the moon's orbit as possible.
After 40+ years as a government contractor and working several contracts with the FAA, their present foot dragging is not unusual. The FAA has their favorite contractors and they are opposed to changes. FAA is so slow they have to speed up to stop.
FAA head said SpaceX needs to be more like Boeing. Cant make this up
I wonder if they can hear themselves lol
No, they didn't. They said they're pushing SpaceX to be like how their pushing Boeing , because Boeing is failing as well. People need to stop confusing the safety of Falcon and Starship.
@@dsmoke1972 If that were the case, why is Boeing experiencing far more critical failures than SpaceX, not just on it's Starliner, but it's airline fleet? Pretty poor comparison, if so.
Does this mean that SPACEX has to kill a few hundred people?
Oh yeah no working I take it Boeing paying head of FAA off
Senator: Was the hold up due to safety?
FAA: There were papers that they forgot to fill out, and they didn't sign the proper documents needed for the next launch.
Senator: But was the hold up due to safety reasons?
FAA: There were papers that they forgot to fill out, and they didn't sign the proper documents needed for the next launch.
Senator: But was the hold up due to safety reasons?
FAA: Proper signatures and permission needed to proceed.
Senator: SMH.
One thing that got me about the FAA's response on the Flight 5 license, is how they point out that the license for Flight 4 was good for multiple launches and that it was SpaceX's own fault for wanting to change that causing the delays....and while yes that's true....on the other hand the FAA has known from the start that SpaceX is doing rapid iterative prototyping and the launches are by that nature going to be different. Yet offer no way to license for that.
Supposedly the 2 month delay is because any changes that could affect the environment need a 60 day review. They've reviewed this same area something like half a dozen or more times now. How many times do they need to go over the same information and why do they need 60 days to do it? I'm all for safety and protecting the environment but what we're seeing right here is why it's taken over 50 years to get back to the moon. Nothing significant will ever get done while moving at the pace of bureaucracy.
Look at how long and the tragedies that happened while the auto was becoming a thing. Laws and other rules came about after fact. Some times said laws were clueless.
The FAA even lied to congress claiming that the tank farm was placed closer to population centers when in fact it was placed farther away.
They changed their flight plan, that caused the extra delay, crashing in the water is what was approved in the old launch license, not possibly slamming into the tower and exploding a tank farm and launch complex, completely different scenarios apply.
Good point!
If the FAA are going to make thins difficult, we might lose it to China. 😢
Last time I was this early Musk and FAA got along 🤝
So never then lol.
As I just wrote, last time SpaceX was NOT planning to fly a booster from the sea the the land. So if he missed the boster could be blown up and would fall into the water. But THIS time they are headed to the land from the sea and if they miss it might hit someone's house. If if they blow it up, the 10,000 little bits might land who knows where. So the risk analysis is harder. Even with a Flight Termination Sytems (a.k. "self destruct") if the booster is heading outside the range, blowing it up might scatter the parts over and even wider area and hit more stuff. I'm sure they can find rules for the use of FTS that "work" but there must be 100 use cases to think about and you need iron-clad arguments that each is safe even in the worst possible case. They need to look at the impact ellipse for debris from uncontrolled flybacks and there are more ways to be uncontrolled than there are controlled.
Elon endorsed the orange man and suddenly the FAA and others start finding issues
So far, SpaceX has managed to land both booster and starship onto the ocean, two years after the planned Mars landing. Space and bureaucracy are hard.
I’m a long time SpaceX supporter and would like to see them progress faster than possible but, I’d like more transparency on the FAA reasoning.
Considering recent interactions (post twit purchase) the reasoning should be obvious.
He shut down the American version of Pravda.
There is no FAA reasoning, only unprincipled empty-suits willing to obstruct American space to carry out partisan administration political malice.
The FAA is not going to tell you who at the agency has been purchased by the competitors to SpaceX, so, you can hang up your expectations of "transparency". There is no transparency in a corrupt agency.
Don't worry, just trust elon. When it comes to transporting travelers you ALWAYS want to move fast and break things. More so when there's no chance at rescue s/
@@markjacobs8584 the FAA’s sole purview is public safety. Starship launches over water, returns to desolate Starbase.
This is pure political malice, administration directed obstruction. Pure evil by butt hurt Democrat thugs.
Keep up the great content as always, Felix and WAI Team! 👍
I imagine how cool if they used Starship to return Perseverance samples, just free thinking...
Could bring back the Hubble too. Or Block 5 the entire ISS.
the hard part of Starship-based sample return is refueling Starship after it lands. Then do you remove test flight #1? Bits of the launch pad bounced into the engines and damaged them. You can't launch Starship from "bare dirt". You need a real launch pad with a flame trench and a fuel depot. Going to Mars is the easy part, launching a return mission is not possible without some extensive infrastructure on Mars.
The way Starship COULD be used is to use it to send a solid fuel accent rocket to the surface of Mars. The accent rocket goes to Mars-orbit with the samples but Starship never leaves. Mars.
But in any case what Starship does is lower the cost of launching Mars-bound cargo. But historically the cargo going to Mars is more than 10X the cost of the launch. So even if Starship is free, we only save about 10% of the mission cost. For example, the $4 Billion rover cost $250 Million to launch. Space missions have always been like that.
Musk is working hard to make the lowest-cost part of the mission cheaper. This is a good long-term plan but will not help with the short term.
@@chrisalbertson5838
SpaceX is planning to do all of this anyway.
1. Starship is using methane and oxygen as fuel exactly because these are easy to produce on Mars.
2. Check out the Moon lander. It has a ring of thruster near the top to avoid kicking up the dirt. Could work on Mars too. 1/3 gravity, helps a lot.
3. Mars probes are expensive because launching is expensive. They have to be very light and extremely reliable, both driving up cost. And working against each other, which drives up cost exponentially.
If you have regular cheap transport to Mars, you can afford cheap payloads that are heavy and less reliable.
4. See Starlink satellites. Their cost is in the hundreds of thousands, not millions or billions.
@@chrisalbertson5838
I'm pretty sure I already replied to this. Stupid UA-cam deleting my posts again.
1. Look up the Moon lander. It has a ring of small engines near the top, to avoid kicking up dirt.
2. The methane-oxygen fuel was selected partially because it's easy to make on Mars.
3. Cargo was historically expensive because of the combination of severe mass constraint and the required very high reliability. That's a brutal engineering problem.
Starship solves both. With a 200+ ton cargo capacity and low cost, mass is not an issue anymore. And that with mass production also allows sending multiple probes, which means no need for extreme reliability.
Starlink satellites cost a few hundred thousand dollars, not hundreds of millions or billions.
They didn't fine Boeing over starliner!!
No - they fined US taxpayers by subsidizing Boeing's incompetence, and punished Musk for political revenge.
Stop noticing.
the fine papers went with the Pres when he used the facilities..ran out of t.p....
Because Starliner is a payload, not the launch vehicle. The vehicle that starliner launched on (Atlas V) had no issues, so there is no basis for a fine or investigation on that.
Heard somewhere that the starliner is not fined bcuz they didnt operate under the faa but nasa so the faa cant fine them
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Why answer the question sir
Starships to Mars? Not if the FAA has anything to say about it. ☹
Yeah Faa is shit at doing paper work
@@cmd123fax SpaceX could pay for more FAA employees and extra paper.
@@KrustyKlown Couldn't: it's a conflict of interest.
Worst case scenario, the world is not limited to USA to build a SpaceX launchpad.
@@sysbofh Doesn't have to be conflict of interest. The FAA could simply add an expedited approval service, with fees 10X higher than normal, and that would fund the extra headcount and boxes of paper, lol.
So New Glen is launching in November? And SpaceX has been pushed back also to November? Seems kinda sus
No, that's what we would call a coincidence
I used to care. Now it's just a free for all. In so many ways.
Reminds me of Tesla not getting an invite to the EV summit meeting.
November and the rithm of these FAA statement seem odd at least. Some are half reasonable but when and how hey are issued…weird.
What else happens in November, I wonder....
Oh wait, the elections! I'm sure that's just a complete coincidence...
The FAA is like when you go to a waiting room to wait in another waiting room after waiting 2 months for an appointment.
I hope they catch the booster on flight 5
They won't
Imagine what a great show this would be, hopefully pushing public interest in Starship development.
@@wyattnoise Either way, "excitement guaranteed!"
Thanks for the vid man, very good work, easy to understand and very good visuals 👌🙏
Thanks to the French channel "Le journal de l'espace" who often recommends you in his vids, very cool treasure dug here 👍
He is a friend of mine, doing a great job!❤
I'm curious if the decision to recover the booster parts was made before or after they were told about the FAA 2 month delay. I wonder if it was something they wanted to do but just didn't have enough time to do it, but the delay allowed them to do it.
If SpaceX isn't tempted to just say "F it! Send it!" then they aren't passionate about doing what they're doing.
If they actually do "Send it!" without FAA approval then they're not smart enough to be doing what they're doing.
This!❤
You comply your way into government tyranny, but you can’t comply your way out of it.
There is no FAA reasoning, only unprincipled empty-suits willing to obstruct/delay American space to carry out partisan administration political malice.
Elon Musk has tremendous courage, integrity & principles to expose, confront, call out FAA political corruption.
You should try it.
No one knows since no time machine have been constructed yet. Who cares when, they just inovate and look at past wrecked rockets to get better. Not calling them smart is an unsmart comment imo. You seem not passionate about SpaceX or am i totally misunderstanding?
thank you for keeping us informed
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5 Starships to Mars. I wonder if they will each be different in some way to see which works best.
I love how you paint with a brush of optimism no matter the company or country, everyone gets a fair shake for a review. Bravo! Job well done! Thank you for sharing!
Just imagine If Space X would send Optimus robots to start the infrastructure on mars and the moon. This is a possibility.
It's a certainty. Working on Mars would be far harder for humans, but barely any different for robots. The only question if it's 2026 or 2028.
As the robots improve, there will be less and less reason to send humans to space. Except as tourists, or maybe retirement resorts. Even an older person with bad knees could walk fine in low gravity. Space is the place for retired trillionaires.
But like I still don't understand the point of having humanoid robots
@@chrisalbertson5838
There will be less and less reason not to send people.
A lot of people wants to go to space just for the experience, and many would choose to live there. It's all over human history, like the colonization of America. Population pressure, political pressure, social pressure, curiosity, adventure, etc. Lots of reasons to leave.
And once humans get a foothold somewhere, there's no turning back. Like those who fly to America today never think about America as a colony, or the frontier, it's just another place where humans live. The same will happen to Mars and other planets in the next few hundred years.
@@rudra.patel.001
The point is to have a 1:1 replacement of human workers. A humanoid robot fits into the same places, can navigate the same environment, can use the same tools, can operate the same machines, etc. Any other form factor would require redesigning everything, and the benefits aren't clear.
Later there will be other form factors, for more specific roles, but for now the humanoid form is the most practical due to it's generality, compatibility, and proven usefulness.
Great video. However, that drone footage of the hopper was spectacular and needs recognition 🤯
Am I the only one that sees the huge difference between BO & SpaceX?
Bezos has a one-off/prototype shop set up.
SpaceX has a Starship Giga-Factory & simultaneously prototyping.
Bezos will never catch up...
Bezos is Batman, Musk is Ironman
Ought to watch the Tim Dodd interview with Bezos- they're building a factory as they go too, but clearly not as fly/boom/learn as SpaceX is. They are preparing for production. Almost a hybrid approach, lots more time spent designing/simulating... I'm a SpaceX fan for sure, but I expect there's a good chance we're all impressed when BO finally does fly. Just very different approaches, I think both have their pros and cons.
@@christalbert722 They're years behind.. I for one will not be impressed just because they "flew" a rocket. lol
As we grow as unique persons, we learn to respect the uniqueness of others.
As much Ada dislike China. Those were some awesome fpv drone shots on the failed rocket.
Yep! That drone pilot did an amazing job keeping it centered while doing aerobatics around a launching and landing rocket. Epic!
Looney toons
lol think I saw you on one of these videos before🤔it might’ve also been a flite test video?
@ravshanoday1073 That is likely. Flite Test is another channel I watch regularly.
china is just all the worst parts of capitalism and communism combined
Among other things, the new one-direction launch diverter will provide a lot better views of the launch process.
If the booster is so important for the analysis of what went wrong with the engines that failed, why wait so long to retrieve them in the first place ?
I think getting them is a "plan B", to get around FAA delays. The original plan would be to launch as fast as possible, meaning it would be pointless to get the wreckage from the sea.
A Very quick search shows that Space X has approximately 13,000 employees.
A Very quick search shows that the FAA has approximately 45,000 employees.
1 innovates at the speed of a rocket and 1 is having trouble slowing that rocket down.
But they are looking for more staff to make sure that they can.
Seems to me that the Staff shift needs to go down not up. :)
The FAA problem is not resources or bureaucracy… it’s deliberate political malice..
More employees, resources, budget will only make it worse.
Starship - "I hate salad" 😂😂😂
SpaceX location has expanded a lot ,great things are happening 👍
Contact the FAA through their website, let them know how you feel!
I feel they are moving them right to the suggestion box. 🗑
@@TheOfficial007 Aka, the rotary file?
@@LordDustinDeWynd 🙂
@@TheOfficial007actually, most government offices are legally required to read through most of the messages. They might not make it to anyone important, but they will definitely make it to someone.
@slimeking101 you know I am joking, right? Yes, government offices are required to read such messages, but I'm sure they are more than happy to hide behind the we get so much mail we can't do our job.
Like the way the nosecone from SN8 looked on the landing pad. Way back when.
Petition for Felix to join the FAA Space Division
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@@Whataboutitman replied super quick you are carrying me through school rn keep it up man!!!
@@Blaine785stay strong! There’s a life after school and it’s all yours! ❤
Let's agree and speak this into existence 100%
Why is no one talking about what space x are going to do if they catch the booster
Probably more catch attempts for more data, they also might test this with other prototypes.
The new nose cone definitely looks better. The welding seams look more finely dressed and smooth. The overall shape looks like the metal has been “worked” perhaps an outside pressure roller with an inside form that it is fitted against.
i saw the interview of the FAA where they said spacex moved the tank farm closer to the population so need to give a risk safty report ..when they had acctually moved it twice as far away from the population. the FAA hadent even bothered to check it. ( someone is pulling the FAA stings )
p.s booster parts recovery they also recovered over 30 of the engines as well.
I’m glad that blue origin and ULA are moving forward, hopefully the extra pressure from these other companies can help the FAA understand the need to streamline the review and launch licensing process
The diddly diddly boo blooper is the reason i always watch till the very end 😂 ❤
Blue Who?
Don't cry Jeffrey!
Blue Behind.
jew origin
Being able to move the launch mount out of the way during landings might be a good idea.
SpaceX should buy a couple of Panama-canal sized ships to transport from Texas to Australia.
FAA licenses commercial launches of U.S. Companies from the inside and outside the US. Yes, Rocket Lab operates under an FAA license. It's funny that only SpaceX seems to have problems following the rules. Could it be that the ultra rich are above the law?
Thank you very much dear Felix
Why why isn’t the dream chaser ready? There’s no excuses get dream chaser on that damn rocket.
Dream Chaser is the ever delayed project that has been in development for 20 years 😂. I probably could have made Dream Chaser in my garage in that time
plot twist, the FAA has employees from blue origin, Roscosmos and China, and that's why starship doesn't go up anymore
They just need to add more *flamethrowers.* To make sure all the water is evaporated. EZ - No more scary splash of rain water.
can't do that either, they'll attempt to rationalize how evaporating water will actually cause destruction to the climate through excess rain.
@@shamancredible8632 oh no, what if it makes a mist and the bog animals won't see past a meter for an hour! 😱
6:29 when welding stainless it heats up and expands. So it looks like they have figured out a way to either dissipate the heat to keep it from expanding or figure out how to weld it at a cooler temperature.
Imagine being Mr. Whitaker, the guy standing between humanity and the stars. Get out of the way, FAA.
The launch licence process is fine, the problem is the FAA dropped the ball and failed to ramp up their launch licence department in line with needs of the industry. Typical government, always reactive and even then super slow to react.
@@schrodingerscat1863 The launch license process is not fine! The FAA insists on using arbitrary reasons for delaying a prototype vehicle as the FAA's director's testimony showed. He claimed that part of the problem was SpaceX's constant changing of technical parameters. Of course, changes will happen on a regular basis as the vehicle is still in the experimental stage. Or, FAA's complaint that the tank farm was placed closer to population centers when in fact it was placed two miles farther. All of these so-called safety concerns sound hollow, but do ring of politics. This particular administration does not like Elon Musk for his stance against government censorship. it's that simple.
@@livingthejourney8833 The reasons for delay aren't arbitrary, they have to follow the law so if some of it seams arbitrary change the laws that make it necessary. EPA and all the red tape it generates is one of the things that desperately needs reform.
Imagine being mr. Whitaker the moment you stepped away from the path of innovation and a giant rocket fell on the house of everyone's favorite young tiktok star..?
@@schrodingerscat1863 in these types of things there’s always a technicality - which when you look backwards in time, are selectively applied. Get out of the way!
The Deep Blue Aerospace pictures look like a game. 🤣
Those defending the FAA as not having political motivations for this delay are either young, naive, or both.
Love The Red Line Heli ! Wow !
Dredging up the raptor engines is important to keep them out of the hands of chinese companies that would just copy them
it's pretty obvious the FAA and other regulators are being paid by china, just like the rest of the US government
- The raptor engine is a reverse engineered Russian rocket engine.
@@BaldurGunnarsson the amount of changes that the engine has seen since, it is its own thing
@@ronkdonkles - Yes, the Russian engine has been modified, that's right.
@@BaldurGunnarsson Which one? That sounds more like the Merlin engine, not the Raptor.
Flight 5 Letsssss Go!!! 🚀
Bill Nelson needs to lean on the FAA. I’m not sure what an environmental review has to do with the FAA. A flight plan change I understand.
The FAA's job is to make sure the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed. The whole point of having launch licenses is to make sure all laws and regulations are being followed, and the FAA needs to check with the other departments to make sure all requirements have been met before they can issue a license.
... can't wait to see mechazilla arms at work, actually am sooooo anxious. Wooó..
They are punishing musk
@@Tw15r3rx "They have Six Ways from Sunday To Get Back At You" - Chuck Schumer
Ah yes, always the victim. "Waaa, they aren't ignoring the law and giving me everything I want, waaa!"
Lets go fierball for ula and new glen all must bow to space x
Can't iterate if the FAA are going to choke SpaceX everytime they do.
NASA needs to step in and tell the FAA that enough is enough, stop being dickheads and focus on your tasks and not anything b they can think of to BLOAT their importance.
This is a great channel
The FAA is no longer fit-for-purpose and needs RADICAL review to keep Boeing honest in ALL of its operations (not least its commercial aircraft division, but in the context of this channel's primary interest the utter dumpster fire that is Starliner), let alone getting out of the way of other companies to responsibly pursue the new reality of how fast spaceflight development SHOULD happen these days.
@What about it what flight do you think will use the first raptor 3?
Please don't say "double check if you pushed the like button" :-(
Let's up the stakes, go for "triple-check"
@@Codysdab perhaps even quadruple check??
all day smash
@@justinni_ it's the right thing to do.
Thank you!
It was a huge pivot when SpaceX abandoned their plans to build Starship in LA. Those images of the BFR tanks were taken in a building in San Pedro. I recall some discussion of union workers wanting some guarantees about SpaceX activities. It was the right move to take the project to Boca Chica.
Analysis of all launch & flight data is essential for continuous improvement
As per my view I think Chinese reusable rockets will take over Americans if faa hinders space x development on starship. China is fast growing in rocket rnd and could one day surpass every country .
Not if the chinese keep pissing everyone off like they do now.
starship can be used as an icbm. its 100% a national security issue. this would have not been happening 50 years ago. this tells you what side the faa is on. its not freedom loving Americans, its the globalist and their puppet nations.
They can't be the leader by copying everything all the time.
As far as I am concerned, China will definitely put a man on Mars before SpaceX, and all because of the FAA.
@@Pooua They will always be behind if they can't steal ideas fast enough.
What about star hopper? What are they doing with it?
Funny how the delay allows New Glenn to launch before the next starship....
Thanks Man
The issue with safety is that the FAA could do all their paperwork and deem everything safe, approve the launch, and the rocket could still explode at the worst possible time causing exactly what the FAA wanted to avoid. There is no 100% guarantee with rockets.
Yeah so they had no problem approve launch 2 when launch 1 literally destroyed the pad, launched rocks all over the place, and the rocket exploded mid air with the explosifs not working when they ment to. But they cant give a licence for launch 5 when launch 4 literally was an absolute success 😂😂 faa are clowns
@@onlyviralvibes8386 LMAO you think they just gave them the flight 2 license for free?
And just like Ocean Gate, when the thing fails, and people die, who gets the heat? The Government regulatory commissions who are asked, "how could you allow this to happen". So fucking tired of Billionaires thinking the Earth is their sandbox.
So they should just YOLO it and give licenses out like door prizes?
Qudos best iv seen all week glad you got your meds.
FAA should perhaps stick to their more familiar civilian Piper Cub planes?
No timestamps?
Is it a mistake for Musk to just ignore the FAA and accept fines when they are lower cost than the cumulative daily cost of waiting, and launch on his own schedule?
Personally I think he's close to the threshold of just going for it and eating whatever fines they send, possibly even a double launch if the first one is successful
@@AnthonyRomero-w8u Yeah, imo there could eventually be a political push to extricate the FAA from constant embarrassment by reducing oversight of experimental spaceflight and concentrating on aviation/airspace safety.
The penalty for ignoring the regulatory authority and launching without permission isn't fines - it's prison time. Rocket-launch companies going rogue is *not* something the government will take lightly.
@@simongeard4824 I read the FAA only had the authority to issue Civil penalties, but I also assumed as you do, so I wonder what law exactly would they be prosecuted under to get prison time, if anyone knows.
@@simongeard4824 that's simply not how it works lol MAYBE it will but there's no precedent to assume so
Why do you say it'll be the most extreme scenario, you wouldn't happen to be trying to hinder the growing push to tell him to just go for it are you🤨
@14:07 They probably need to launch many more than you espoused as it's going to take over 10 launches by some analysis to fill a single ship with propellant for one outbound journey. That's why the Boosters don't have landing legs, trying to increase mass to orbit.
Space X will never make it if the FAA isn't neutered.
Thank Ocean Gate and stop blaming the FAA. Billionaires running around ignoring regulations and safety rules is what is causing this. You think this delay just accidentally happening right as the Coast Guard and US Navy is up to it's ass in hearings right now?
I wouldn't want to live in a world without an effective FAA. The FAA just needs to hire new folks to handle the additional workload of a robust commercial space launch industry, not "neutered."
@@JohnPowell6 You live in that world right now, we do not have an effective FAA.
@@JohnPowell6 u Dumb
@@rogerrussell9544 that’s a load of horseshit. The FAA does the hard and needed work of keeping it safe to fly in the U.S. and to be safe from aircraft falling out of the skies. When’s the last time you consciously worried about aircraft safety? If the FAA was ineffective you can kiss that world goodbye.
that payload door appear to still be a problem, due to its' size. Here's an idea - make the door a pice that is held in place by a simple mechanism inside the starship, which is jettisoned before deployment of the starlinks. Once the final starlink has been deployed, a second payload door is then pushed into the gap from the inside & locked in place, replacing the original jettisoned payload door
Is it true that everything SpaceX does falls under national security? And because of this they are unable to recruit talent outside of the USA.
So, wouldn't it be beneficial for the USA and its security to SAFELY hurry up the FAA, as any hardware lost at sea, could potentially be salvaged by a foreign adversary and back engineered to close the gap.
Landing back on US soil reduces that risk.
If anyone tried to salvage the wreckage it would probably be interpreted as an act of war.
SpaceX is under ITAR. Its basically an ICBM without the warhead.
@@mike-0451 Project Azorian.
One warning to the engineers, RCA's historically take a LONG time and if they plan on doing any metallurgy they should use a 3rd party that works with many different companies and can get a result to them quickly.
You looked into your channel metrics so there's 2 million people that watch and don't subscribe why do you keep pushing... If they haven't subscribed by now they probably don't want to
Will you just let the man run his channel the way he wants to?
@@roysheaks1261 will you just let the man comment what he wants to?
I really dig that drone videos..
How many times eh? The delay is because Elon gave Mr T his endorsement and THIS is the saltiness pouring out
No... The sooner Elon goes to Mars... the better.
While your statement as to the cause of the foot dragging by the FAA is true, the means of implementing this policy is due to the fact that virtually everything in the Federal government which the democrats have touched since Obama lied it's way into power has been weaponized and now it is routine for them to slow everything down or block it altogether, if they don't like your politics. The same goes for the Texas state agencies where the woke, leftist democrats have burrowed deep into the state bureaucracy. All of these government termites should be identified and then personally sued for these intentional obstructions. In addition these insolent and useless liberals should all be fired and lose all their government pensions for this as well.
bunch of corrupt assholes in charge, and even worse are the idiots who can't see it
I think the new large frames with the angle are parts for the flame trench outside of the orbital launch pad. Directing flame needs mass to reduce vibration and subsequent degradation of the the structure. With new attention to environmental factors, additional treatment of the launch and landing exhaust fumes.
The FFA will continue slowing SpaceX till SpaceX bends the knee.
The FAA represents all Federal agencies here; and it was the EPA that raised the objection and needed more time.
Until Musk endorses Kamala Harris, no federal agency will approve anything for him.
@@dphuntsman I have watched the EPA ruin whole industries and fine small farmers out of business over incorrect or politically motivated claims (remember the “wetlands” hysteria?) only to later be reversed by the courts.
@@dphuntsman All of this is the usual woke, work from home, overpaid, under worked, leftist government hacks not doing what they are paid to do and also intentionally slowing things down because Elon Musk is not a leftist termite.
Cool ! Yeah ! Ok Dude! Rite On !
We need to start a petition to send to the FAA. Imagine getting pressure from spacex congress and millions of people.
A petition telling them to just ignore the laws written by Congress?
@uzlonewolf don't be absurd, they need to find ways to stream line their process. They kept stating they various information, all of which spacex has provided for quite a while now but it takes them forever. Same with our immigration process. For example, I provided a translation for our marriage certificate but it took so long, over 2 years, that they said they needed a new translation because it was expired. Like the words changed??
@@jamesf2697 I'm not disagreeing with that, but it's not necessarily the FAA's fault. If Congress made one of the FAA's requirements be check to make sure all fish and wildlife regulations are met, and it's the Fish and Wildlife Service's job to do that, how is the Fish and Wildlife Service demanding more documentation and taking forever to process it the FAA's fault?
A joint effect is needed, pooling all available resources.
Like I said before, and I will say it again. If the FAA continues to delay mankind's progress to space, they will be sidelined! They are NOT indispensable!
You can't really sideline the gubmint
@@jamesengland7461 Necessity sidelines everything.
Later, when a 5,000T steel vehicle filled with propellant crashes into a city: "How could the government let this happen!! Where was the agency who was supposed to be overseeing them??"
I subscribed to WAI years ago… well, maybe 22 months. Point is, “Who unsubscribed me?”
“You got some ‘splainin’ to do Lucy!”
For those who don't know, Booster 11 exploded in the sea after landing.
Starship isn't designed to fall over after landing, so that's completely outside of test parameters.
What happens when superheated metal is subjected to rapid cooling?
Please show me where they would put all of those starships.
This administration can't be gone soon enough.
oh yeah THAT ought to fix it
Thumbs Down. Unrelated. Let the FAA/AST guys do their job.
Thumbs up, using the alphabet agencies for political retaliation has got to stop.
@@dphuntsman govern me harder daddy
@@dphuntsman you know this delay is totally based on the fact that the left is still butt hurt because Musk fixed twitter and took away the left's echo chamber. You know that if Musk were an activist democrat termite that there would be zero delay from the FAA or Texas state agencies on this launch program. Why do you just lie?
Just launch anyway. If FAA gets away with this, they're just gonna do it again and again.
I think a mile-marker to look for is when SpaceX shows signs of developing landing legs (system) for Starship.
Wooden the impact from splashdown and then the impact from hitting the bottom of the ocean do damage to the boosters? How will they know what was flight damage and what was from flight
Elon: Hey FAA, what is your Cashapp number?
FAA: Mr Musk, it doesn't work like that.
Elon: It doesn't work at all!
Another quality episode.
Single episode without "Subscription reminder" and I will subscribe :) ...asking for a subscription it is not a very good look :)
Good show.