Beyond Ultimate: The Future Of Super Smash Bros.

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  • @MarioKartGamerDude
    @MarioKartGamerDude Рік тому +8

    Super Smash Bros: Beyond Ultimate actually sounds like a good name!

  • @shezshezshezshez7001
    @shezshezshezshez7001 11 місяців тому +9

    My issue with live service is simple.
    I can’t restart and reunlock. Growing my roster is satisfying. I don’t want everything just patched in.

  • @lk_3099
    @lk_3099 Рік тому +10

    My big point against a continuation of Ultimate is the outdated and lame movesets from some of the older characters in the series: Sonic, Ganondorf, Samus, some of the Star Fox crew, etc. are LONG overdue for a more faithful and different moveset that feels fresh but right.

    • @eliserss
      @eliserss 6 місяців тому +1

      whos to say they cant rework some characters in the process of making an ultimate deluxe? i feel like that would be their main focus along with improving the echo fighters, improved visuals, and some more side modes. seems pretty reasonable to me honestly, i'd be fine with that even if it meant no new characters

  • @Disconnect03
    @Disconnect03 Рік тому +17

    My personal take (and what seems to be the general opinion) is that the next smash game will either be an ultimate+ like you said, or a dramatic cutdown on roster size to focus individual characters (not a reboot necessarily, treated more like the previous games). While part of the fun of smash is the amount of crossover material and representation that comes from it, I do feel like the series needs to scale back in quantity, as Ultimate will be hard to follow up. Though, with Sakurai still on the team according to his youtube channel, I'm hoping for the best. Hollow Knight for Smash!
    Also, really love the video. Don't know why the algorithm isn't picking these up, because I can tell you're putting in the effort and they seem to me like they would do well. I would suggest more music variety and more interesting footage (though that wouldn't affect views necessarily), but outside of that this stuff is super solid, especially coming from a 1k channel. Keep up the good work, subbed, and I can't wait for you to pop off!

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
    @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 Рік тому +13

    Tbh if it's just another Fighter's Pack, it would be hype, but it wouldn't feel like a new game, they should def add a proper story mode and several base roster/secret unblockable characters. Many more new stages too.

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +1

      That plus they should back all the missing Single Player Modes
      Add back Break The Targets
      Multi Man Contest
      Board The Platforms
      Home Run Contest
      Smash Run From Smash 4 on 3DS
      Event Matches
      Master/Crazy Orders
      The Boss Battle Mode From Brawl
      That plus if they make a new story mode
      Make it to where it's more Like SubSpace Emissary or The Story Modes' From Mortal Kombat/Injustice (Just don't make it anything like World of Light)!

    • @eliserss
      @eliserss 6 місяців тому

      secret unlockable characters just dont rlly work in the modern age, ppl just get spoiled an them and/or look them up

  • @Nightvampirefear
    @Nightvampirefear Рік тому +18

    I wonder if a new smash would lead to a new story entirely. Dont get me wrong, the previous story modes in smash were fun, but i feel like it should connect and having something overarcing at this point to be fresh

    • @LG555
      @LG555 6 місяців тому

      We're talking about Nintendo here, where story is just a device to push you forward, so probably not.

  • @MegaAccf
    @MegaAccf Рік тому +20

    it SHOULD be a deluxe imo. Having everyone back would be great

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +7

      If they do make it Deluxe
      They should back all the missing Single Player Modes
      Add back Break The Targets
      Multi Man Contest
      Board The Platforms
      Home Run Contest
      Smash Run From Smash 4 on 3DS
      Event Matches
      Master/Crazy Orders
      The Boss Battle Mode From Brawl
      That plus bring back Trophies
      That plus give Everyone Alternate Costumes!

    • @amadeus.7436
      @amadeus.7436 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dylansmith5206 As cool as that'd be there's no way. These kinds of modes take up the most time in development. Having to make all that while bringing everything back, again, is absolutely impossible.

  • @anime4realogs
    @anime4realogs Рік тому +2

    What if instead of the "Everyone Is Here!!!" For ultimate instead "Everyone is evolved/changed" for the new smash but at the cost of some characters like echos and low priority characters and be called like super smash bros evolution or something like that

  • @tokuwriter2872
    @tokuwriter2872 6 місяців тому +2

    I just want Ryu Hayabusa damnit.
    He’s the only NES character that hasn’t been added yet and it’s so damn baffling.

  • @edgarsintitulo4468
    @edgarsintitulo4468 Рік тому +2

    I could also see Nintendo releasing a Super Smash Bros. All Stars (64, Melee and Brawl), which would be kind of like Pikmin 1+2, where you can buy the games separatedly or all of them at once.

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 Рік тому +8

    Smash Tour should never come back. Smash Tour is awful. Smash Run yes. Smash tour no.

  • @jaimemunoz7135
    @jaimemunoz7135 Рік тому +3

    Use the clones to keep the old move sets and change completely the more veterans like Mario and cap falcon

  • @MortalTekken369
    @MortalTekken369 Рік тому +2

    A Sixth Installment Of Super Smash Brothers

  • @stagelights_
    @stagelights_ 6 місяців тому +3

    smash without captain falcon or fox in my opinion would no longer be smash

  • @dinoshi64
    @dinoshi64 Рік тому +3

    A live service game with no micro transactions is an impossibility in the current gaming space, I'm sorry
    Just look at what they did with Mario Kart Tour, they'll charge us Diddy Kong at 40$ again I guarantee it

  • @LG555
    @LG555 6 місяців тому +1

    I hate, how everyone says, Mario needs to reflect more of his series, and then just say to add Cappy, like he has or will be an integral part of Mario. I'm sorry everyone, but Cappy is gone, just like FLUDD, which I would also remove from Marios moveset, together with the cape.

  • @dylandelahaie7800
    @dylandelahaie7800 Рік тому +9

    I still don't get how we got Undertale and not Touhou, one of the oldest Indie Successful Game Franchise.

  • @ReiAyanami8
    @ReiAyanami8 Рік тому +10

    Honestly, all my hype in terms of characters I'd like yo see died after Ultimate. I was so exhausted afterwards. Back then if I got any of my characters I feel like I would have lost my mind, but now it's like "Eh, that's cool."

  • @klawthechocobo158
    @klawthechocobo158 Рік тому +13

    Lets be honest here, doing Ultimate “Deluxe” is out of the question. Smash Reboot is probably the best way to tackle this game considering there’s a lot of characters that need some serious changes. Also, moving forward without the OG 12 wouldn’t really feel like Smash. Using the same logic you came up with you might as well remove Fox & DK due to their dormant franchise. Take Ultimate’s roster, remove a bunch of characters from there, add whomever, give us a better single player mode, better WiFi and maybe not give us DLC. Yes that last bit is controversial but 2 games in a row where the DLC characters effectively ruined the game competitively maybe its time to not do DLC. I could be wrong. Anyways that’s how I feel

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому

      Don't remove DK!
      Keep DK in the game and give it some New Characters
      Give me DIxie Kong (Someone who should have been in Smash For Decades)
      Funky Kong
      Cranky Kong
      The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny)
      Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games
      Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze
      Ect...............

  • @otterthanu3935
    @otterthanu3935 7 місяців тому +1

    reboot would be nice but having so little characters would be a death sentence

  • @fightfutures2432
    @fightfutures2432 Рік тому +2

    I want my Showtime Peach and Rayman in Smash 6

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому

      Speaking Of Rayman
      Also Add in These Character's
      Crash Bandicoot
      Spyro The Dragon
      Rayman
      Klonoa
      Abe From Oddworld
      Gex The Gecko
      Jill or Leon From Resident Evil
      Lara Croft From Tomb Raider
      And The Pyramid Head From Silent Hill 2
      To where we can finally have a proper version of Playstation All Stars!

    • @fightfutures2432
      @fightfutures2432 Рік тому

      @@dylansmith5206 Pyramid Head is from Silent Hill not from RE

    • @FubenoAr
      @FubenoAr Рік тому

      @@dylansmith5206 🫵Don't ignore it will you not forget [ #spaceinvaders ]
      I want you to consider including it in Smash Bros🛸👾👾👾👾👾👾

  • @mi1key
    @mi1key Рік тому +2

    The problem with a live service game is that unlike pc fighting games. nintendos gonna make new systems. on pc you can have 1 steam account through multiple pc''s. But i doubt nintendos gonna let us keep the switch accounts in a couple years

  • @00nanoo99
    @00nanoo99 Рік тому +6

    Smash Ultimate should live up to its name as the Ultimate Smash Bros

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 Рік тому +7

    They really should keep adding to Smash Ultimate.

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +2

      If they do add to Smash Ultimate
      They should back all the missing Single Player Modes
      Add back Break The Targets
      Multi Man Contest
      Board The Platforms
      Home Run Contest
      Smash Run From Smash 4 on 3DS
      Event Matches
      Master/Crazy Orders
      The Boss Battle Mode From Brawl
      That plus if they make a new story mode
      Make it to where it's more Like SubSpace Emissary or The Story Modes' From Mortal Kombat/Injustice (Just don't make it anything like World of Light)!
      That plus add in Trophies!

    • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
      @crashban4t.f.s.b783 Рік тому +1

      @@dylansmith5206 Yes. All Single player modes should return except for Smash Tour. Also make it so we could play Smash run for as long as we want and make it have 4 player offline split screen multiplayer and maybe 2 player online splitscreen multiplayer.

    • @blocks4857
      @blocks4857 Рік тому +4

      Nah. I want a roster cut

    • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
      @crashban4t.f.s.b783 Рік тому +1

      @@blocks4857 I meant that I want more Smash ultimate dlc or a deluxe version of Smash Ultimate.

  • @Spider-Gekko957
    @Spider-Gekko957 Рік тому +7

    If I was in charge of the fighters pass volume three here a list to start off
    1. Geno from super Mario RPG
    2.Crash and coco from crash bandicoot
    3.2B from Neir Automata
    4.Ratchet and clank.
    5. Jim Kazuma from Tekken.
    now if you’re going to include the sixth and final character, you have to end it off with a bang to everyone reading this yes, I’m referring to the mascot of Microsoft
    6.Master chief from Halo

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +1

      If your gonna add in Crash, Ratchet, and Jin
      Add in These Character's
      Spyro The Dragon
      Rayman
      Klonoa
      Abe From Oddworld
      Gex The Gecko
      Jill or Leon From Resident Evil
      Lara Croft From Tomb Raider
      And The Pyramid Head From Resident Evil
      To where we can finally have a proper version of Playstation All Stars!

    • @FubenoAr
      @FubenoAr Рік тому

      🫵😡 You guys should stop being so bossy and just ignoring me not forget [ #spaceinvaders ]
      I want you to consider including it in Smash Bros🎮👾👾👾👾👾🛸

  • @zcdace2204
    @zcdace2204 4 місяці тому

    If there's a new Smash Bros, I'm pretty sure Sora won't make it base, and if they remove the Disney Keychain, then they removed the whole appeal of Sora

  • @erickmaverick3128
    @erickmaverick3128 Рік тому +2

    A wild idea for me: 3D Smash. Basically, playing Smash Bros on a 3D isometric stage. If you played Power Stones, it's somewhat similar.
    Not delving into my most wanted; people wouldn't like them, anyways.😒

  • @SBundSR
    @SBundSR 3 місяці тому

    I would Like for the next smash game that they Focus more on the main character of the line for example an Option for choosing multiple versions of mario under one slot or for example choosing different versions of kirby would be nasty. If it would up to me I rather make dlc‘s for characters like Mario, DK and Bowser that give them different movesets or power ups than making tons of dlc‘s for fire emblem broken sword fighter

  • @eliserss
    @eliserss 6 місяців тому

    if they do an ultimate deluxe then they should avoid adding many new characters and instead focus on improving current ones with some new reworks, skins that are actually different outfits (think builder or wedding mario for example), making echo fighters more distinct from their main fighter, etc... that would go a long way to making the roster actually feel like it expanded while also removing filler

  • @crashtwinsanity5166
    @crashtwinsanity5166 Рік тому +34

    Crash Bandicoot was robbed least be honest

  • @TheOrangeDiamond
    @TheOrangeDiamond Рік тому +8

    My top 5 are Iris, Knuckles, Waluigi, Rayman, and a tie with Shantae and Lilac

    • @SirPanikalot778
      @SirPanikalot778 Рік тому +1

      I think If they were to go with a sonic character, it would be shadow: he's just too iconic.
      However I see knuckles as a reasonable possibility, I like your thinking.

    • @pendranomechannel6786
      @pendranomechannel6786 Рік тому +3

      Wanting a literal clone of Sonic to get in over the OG partner character Tails seems goofy to me. Although I guess Shadow would be easier to develop as an echo.

    • @SirPanikalot778
      @SirPanikalot778 Рік тому +2

      @@pendranomechannel6786 To be fair, any sonic character could work, I just think shadow is the most iconic (not even my favourite lol)
      Bare in mind shadow also has the chaos attacks, such as spear and blast, so they could do a lot to make him less of a sonic clone.
      Tails would be great, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of potential there, I just think shadow is more recognizable.

    • @bullwrinkle29studiosshow37
      @bullwrinkle29studiosshow37 Рік тому +3

      Tbf, The only sonic characters I would love to join would be Shadow and Eggman.

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +1

      Speaking Of Rayman
      Also Add in These Character's
      Crash Bandicoot
      Spyro The Dragon
      Rayman
      Klonoa
      Abe From Oddworld
      Gex The Gecko
      Jill or Leon From Resident Evil
      Lara Croft From Tomb Raider
      And The Pyramid Head From Resident Evil
      To where we can finally have a proper version of Playstation All Stars!

  • @Javiere778
    @Javiere778 Рік тому +4

    Have you ever even thought about Sonic like think of this Sonic and his franchise has been through a bunch of criticism and mixed results on his games aquis add knuckles tails amy Shadow silver and eggman maybe for the last three characters and should be metal Sonic blaze or one of the chaotix

  • @shayne537
    @shayne537 Рік тому +1

    Super Smash Bros Ultimate Plus. Something like that. I wouldn’t be upset with what ever they call it, I would be excited if anything.

  • @BBB-pe3ip
    @BBB-pe3ip Рік тому +5

    Smash Ultimate Remastered for Switch 2, with balance changes, reduced input lag, and rollback netcode for online.

  • @dr.wolfstar1765
    @dr.wolfstar1765 Рік тому +6

    Kratos
    Doom guy
    Master chief
    Tracer
    Dixie Kong
    Knuckles
    Dante
    Geno

    • @xnrosaigaming
      @xnrosaigaming Рік тому +3

      Kratos and Master Chief can only be in Smash if they've been featured in a Nintendo Console.

    • @Molten2004
      @Molten2004 Рік тому +6

      ​@@xnrosaigamingnot how that works

    • @xnrosaigaming
      @xnrosaigaming Рік тому +2

      @@Molten2004 what do you mean not how that works?

    • @Molten2004
      @Molten2004 Рік тому +5

      @@xnrosaigaming Joker got in Smash before any Persona spinoffs were ever put on Switch.

    • @xnrosaigaming
      @xnrosaigaming Рік тому +3

      @@Molten2004 uh....you do know that Joker was a character in Persona Q2 for the 3ds which makes Joker able to be in Smash Ultimate.

  • @bullwrinkle29studiosshow37
    @bullwrinkle29studiosshow37 Рік тому +1

    For my prediction for the next smash (For My basic Opinion) would be smash 6. I mean don't get me wrong a port for Ultimate would be ok, but the problem for a port would be renewing a lot of licensing for stages that aren't in Ultimate and Newcomers which will only be 1/2 newcomers. and since Sakurai is kind of a type of guy who wants to experience new things, and since Re-working on what has been worked on already would be stressing and a mess. I feel like Smash 6 would be treated like Brawl, Melee and Ultimate. I mean yeah, I don't want any characters to be removed for the roster either, but it's what the franchise does in some new games. In one of Sakurai's past videos (from 2 months ago), He did a *SOFT* Confirm which means It might happen. As much as I love the Franchise to keep going, I'm having my hopes for it. and since some franchises are relevant again, I could see (Geno, Pheonix wright, Paper Mario, Rayman, etc.) to be in the spotlight. but for my pick? It would be Geno.
    I love the Video and I'm your new sub! Have an early Happy Halloween lol.

  • @pikachuliker737
    @pikachuliker737 Рік тому

    still cant believe that there were no comments with bandana waddle dee in it he has to be added 😢

  • @GrouchMan21
    @GrouchMan21 8 місяців тому +1

    Here's a list of characters I'd love to see in Smash:
    King Bob-Omb (Super Mario 64)
    Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
    Goemon (Mystical Ninja)
    Fulgore (Killer Instinct)
    Gilius Thunderhead (Golden Axe)
    and Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
    And before anyone says "Erm actually only Sonic characters should be allowed in Smash when it comes to Sega because they don't care about their other IPs", All I gotta say is go play some of Sega's OTHER GAMES aside from Sonic. They're good and some are even better than Sonic. Namely Golden Axe and Streets of Rage

  • @pendranomechannel6786
    @pendranomechannel6786 Рік тому +4

    I like the tag team idea you mentioned. There’s a 3ds game called One Piece: Super Grand Battle X that does almost exactly what you described in a platform fighter. If smash had something like that it would definitely be interesting.
    Top 5 Newcomers:
    Kunio
    Rayman
    Impa
    Fawful
    Shantae

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому

      Speaking of Impa
      In addition to her
      Throw in Skull Kid From Majora's Mask
      Vaati From Minish Cap
      Ghirahim From Skyward Sword
      Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess (Plus throw in Zant)
      Tetra From Wind Waker (Just make it to where she's not a clone and to where she's not an Echo Fighter)
      Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds
      Ravali, Daruk, Mipha, And Urbosa From Breath of The Wild
      Ect...........................

    • @FubenoAr
      @FubenoAr Рік тому

      @@dylansmith5206 💢💢💢🤬💢💢💢 Don't ignore it will not forget [ #spaceinvaders ]
      I want you to consider including it in Smash Bros🛸👾👾👾👾👾👾

  • @pizzadeliveryspringtrap9152
    @pizzadeliveryspringtrap9152 Рік тому +4

    Genos could come considering mario rpg is back.

    • @_NormalEditor
      @_NormalEditor Рік тому +1

      get rid of the s, the one punch man character wont be in the game

  • @thomasbennett0
    @thomasbennett0 Рік тому +5

    New Fighter Incoming: The Guy From Fortnite

  • @gerwique3146
    @gerwique3146 Рік тому +3

    Chun-Li

    • @luisreyes1963
      @luisreyes1963 11 місяців тому +2

      Sarah Bryant (Virtua Fighter) would be better.

  • @hr-g4640
    @hr-g4640 8 місяців тому

    Bomberman, Crash Bandicoot, more Nintendo representation, Advance Wars, Sin and Punishment, Golden Sun, Rhythm Heaven, Chibi Robo, Nazo no Murasamejou, Astral Chain, Springman from Arms, Master Chief from Halo maybe, Dante from Devil May Cry, Leon Kennedy,

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 Рік тому +2

    Or they could make a Disney crossover Smash Bros game. Do a collaboration and put a lot more Disney characters in it.

  • @TheReZisTLust
    @TheReZisTLust Рік тому

    I want a Super Potion Pokemon Melee game

  • @QperG
    @QperG Рік тому

    Need a melee2

  • @Mr_Dr_Man_Sr
    @Mr_Dr_Man_Sr Рік тому

    My idea for the Super smash bros reboot if they ever make one someday, I'd concider keeping the characters in the roster and maybe making one more character like, "Luffy". Lol, just to clarify: That was a joke. But in all seriousness I'd consider adding Funky Kong, or Chunky Kong. Depending on if they make them into he roster and depending on how the move sets are. Because in all honesty I'd laugh if they actually put Villager or Rayman in there. And also I'd like to speculate about the next Super smash bros ultimate, but I don't think it's going to happen.. Not trying to nake anybody care about my opinion or anything, but if they possibly make another smash bros game. Then they better make it better without any move sets from regular Mario games. Because the move sets they already have within Super smash bros ultimate is good. Not to say i don't like them, i like them. Because not everyone has the same opinion on everything. Because in the future of gaming, you can just easily grab a code from a game and implement it into a computer with a better graphics card because you can already play games from the past by the code. It's not like players in the newer generation aren't gonna play those past games. Because there's bound to be newer players for old games at some point.

  • @kiura3552
    @kiura3552 Рік тому +2

    Crash would be the worst thing that could happen to Smash.

    • @sunsetlover123-y7c
      @sunsetlover123-y7c Рік тому +11

      I respect your opinion, but could you delve into why? I can see him being a great thing to happen for smash; he's an icon, he has great Moveset potential, and he's considered to be on par with Mario and Sonic. (From what I've seen, as Mario Sonic and Crash go under the name "the big three.")

    • @crashtwinsanity5166
      @crashtwinsanity5166 Рік тому +6

      Terrible opinion

    • @ybfromoblock3381
      @ybfromoblock3381 Рік тому +2

      @@sunsetlover123-y7cbro refuses to respond back 😭

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +1

      @@sunsetlover123-y7c He would be the best thing to ever happen to Smash
      That plus in addition to Crash
      Also Add in These Character's
      Spyro The Dragon
      Rayman
      Klonoa
      Abe From Oddworld
      Gex The Gecko
      Jill or Leon From Resident Evil
      Lara Croft From Tomb Raider
      And The Pyramid Head From Silent Hill 2
      To where we can finally have a proper version of Playstation All Stars!

    • @Level_Eleven
      @Level_Eleven Рік тому

      @@dylansmith5206 ‘The Pyramid Head From Resident Evil’? 😂😂😂

  • @fightfutures2432
    @fightfutures2432 Рік тому

    My Top 10 Smash Bros 6 Characters
    Rayman
    Crash Bandicoot
    Bomberman
    Leon S Kennedy
    Akuma
    Aigis
    Dr.Eggman
    Dixie Kong
    Chorus Kids
    Takamaru