Brought one today and should be ready to pick up soon. Your channel was one of the ones that popped up during my research. Really enjoyed the test drive and my kids were very happy sitting in the back. Been a while since driving made me smile.
thanks again Lubino more awesome information. Your tireless efforts are so great for us new Alphard owners. i have a 2007 v6 3.0L and I am waiting for an available slot to book with Paul at new acres for the approved dealer LPG conversion hopefully October time cheers Tim
You will love the fact that the car will not feel any different from using petrol. Thank you for your support. Every message left moves me higher up the list on you tube.
Good video but a bit inaccurate in places. I have been running and fitting LPG systems for nearly 20 years. I've even designed and built my own LPG systems for cars where no system was available. 1. LPG gives equivalent power to high octane petrol. (You should be running E5 anyway). 2. ALWAYS have the "Flashlube" system fitted. It's essential for top-end lubrication due to the high temperature burn with LPG. 3. LPG burns very clean indeed, in fact on most Japanese vehicles, emissions are so low as to be undetectable on an MoT test. 4. LPG should give an approximately 7% reduction in fuel economy. Not 28% as mentioned. I run a 3·5 litre V6 Nissan Elgrand 5 speed automatic. I get around 35mpg on a run and up to 26mpg around town on petrol; and 33mpg on a run and up to 24·5mpg around town on LPG. A Toyota Alphard should do slightly better in 3 litre form due to Toyota engineering being slightly better than Nissan. The 2·4 litre Alphard will probably burn more fuel due to the engine having to work much harder coping with the 2 tonne weight of the vehicle. Very good video, well and simply explained. Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and write back too. I’ve copied this from drive lpg. You can also enter the local prices of Petrol and Autogas if you wish. This calculator is based on a typical MPG "loss" of 20% on Autogas compared to petrol (the energy in a litre of Autogas is less than in a litre of Petrol.) I agree with you that the Nissans would need flash lube but the alphard 3l appear to have more resilient valves. Flash lube never hurts though but I stopped using it 40000 miles ago. Runs peachy….most of the times.
Lpg does burn very clean but it does require a good engine that runs well on petrol. I can’t remember what I said I got here But it’s always improving.
Hi David, Can you please provide me with the... Rough formula of the equivalent mpg of LPG? I hope I'm making myself clear- I'm looking to find out how to compare the cheaper running costs and distance of LPG as opposed to petrol and diesel mpg. I understand the slight loss of power and mpg drop of LPG engines, but not the equivalence. Cheers!
Just to clarify for us all. The 3 litre V6 had a four speed auto until 2005, and a five speed until 2008. The newer V6 model, with the 3.5 litre, had a six speed auto.
My local LPG petrol station in Old Kent Rd, London cost £0.90p a litre. I have a Honda Odyssey 2.4l It can do 130 miles on a 38 litres LPG tank and 180 miles on motorway.. There's alot of petrol station around London has discontinued selling LPG. It is getting harder to find LPG around London now 😕
I’m thinking to get one I love my Toyota Corolla verso But I’m thinking to getting one alphar I love the look of this car Thank you for the videos 😁 Good info
Interesting post. I'd be interested what your thoughts are on converting my Vellfire to LPG in 2024 as many forecourts are now removing LPG. Do you think they'll be replaced by BioLPG?
It’s not a clear decision anymore. It all depends on where in the country you are. If you’re in Birmingham the yes for eg. If you are in the highlands or say Edinburgh then no. You really need to way up all the pros and cons for your needs. I hope that helps.
I'm based in mid Kent. There are a few locations supplying LPG but these are slowly disappearing. I've read that BioLPG can be used in current LPG tanks, but haven't come across any forecourts supplying it. Interested to know why you'd convert if in B'ham. Great channel BTW.
Thanks for the heads up on your latest video helped me find this! Where did you get your LPG install done? An extra 230miles of range (currently only going 500km = 310 miles on our smaller engine size petrol in our camper conversion so adding LPG is nearly 1.75x the range if we get similar millage to you! Plus a bit of a fuel saving). Sounds like it's worth doing at ?about £1.5k to install?) - fellow Edinburger Alphard owner!
@@Cuttothechase putting into Google Maps looks like that's way down south of Birmingham? I do see several alphards on their Google photos page so assuming it's the right business! Had hoped it might be somewhere in the Scottish central belt. A bit more of a logistical challenge heading down that way to get it done!
Brilliant video bro just one question does the engine wear out quicker with lpg gas because I always thought if lpg was really good why don't the Japanese fit it as a standard build I am really interested in purchasing a alphard because I've always owned japanease cars I'm in a dilemma from choosing 3.0L or 2.4L because I only do 10 miles local comute per day for work I'm not sure if this will be a nightmare for petrol. Please reply with your outstanding knowledge
2.4 litre would be the cheaper to run. Chain instead of belt. Easier access to spark plugs. About 27 to 29 mpg I think. 3l does about 23 to 24 in my hands.
Some say it does run hotter but my vehicle has done abou 60k on lpg without any valve damage issues. I believe that the Alphard’s have hardened valve seats and hence they work quite well. I have about 140000 miles on mine as the odometer reads 180000 , a mixture of kms and miles.
I am absolutely not an expert, (so bear that in mind if you're making any decisions based on what I say! 🤔) but I have done quite a bit of research on this subject lately. I think some of the older systems did have problems with burnt out valves due to the lack of inherent lubrication in L.P.G. I believe the newer systems get round this by installing a "flash lube" system that involves injecting a lubricant into the system, this is stored in a little tank that requires topping up periodically (not a big job, it's just like topping up your washer bottle). Hope this helps (remember.... NOT an expert!!). 😁
@@simongray2533 that is spot on however with these engines, a lot of them have the lube fitted but don’t use it. Like mine hasn’t seen line applied for 2 years.
@@Cuttothechase Aye, like I say I'm definately no expert. I've just been exploring options as I'm hoping to buy a 3.5ltr Vellfire later this year or early next 🤞😁. I'm enjoying your channel by the way! 👍
I'm not experienced in hybrids. In a nutshell, series 20 plus for hybrids. Make sure you have dealer level support. Speak to New Acre Cars before pulling the trigger
I see the roof box on your wonderfull alphard. Could you tell me the thule kids ID you are using and where did you buy it? Do you also know the max dynamic load?
50kg max dynamic load. Similar for all roof boxes and there is a video in my channel regarding the Thule fitting kit. It’s out of production just now though.
I rarely have any oil in that valve saver. I thinks the valves on the alphard are pretty hard and resistant to heat. I would assume that the need or not for valve saver is dependent on each vehicle.
Make sure you get support too. When things go wrong a good dealer supports you. I don't worry about broken lights etc as I know my dealer will get me them....4 years on!
@@Cuttothechase I’ve been watching them , I don’t think your too far away from me I’ve not seen any decent dealers in the Glasgow area , do you know of any ?
Brought one today and should be ready to pick up soon. Your channel was one of the ones that popped up during my research. Really enjoyed the test drive and my kids were very happy sitting in the back. Been a while since driving made me smile.
Steve I'm sure you will love your car, the kids certainly will. Enjoy the journey.
thanks again Lubino more awesome information. Your tireless efforts are so great for us new Alphard owners. i have a 2007 v6 3.0L and I am waiting for an available slot to book with Paul at new acres for the approved dealer LPG conversion hopefully October time cheers Tim
You will love the fact that the car will not feel any different from using petrol.
Thank you for your support. Every message left moves me higher up the list on you tube.
Good video but a bit inaccurate in places.
I have been running and fitting LPG systems for nearly 20 years. I've even designed and built my own LPG systems for cars where no system was available.
1. LPG gives equivalent power to high octane petrol. (You should be running E5 anyway).
2. ALWAYS have the "Flashlube" system fitted. It's essential for top-end lubrication due to the high temperature burn with LPG.
3. LPG burns very clean indeed, in fact on most Japanese vehicles, emissions are so low as to be undetectable on an MoT test.
4. LPG should give an approximately 7% reduction in fuel economy. Not 28% as mentioned.
I run a 3·5 litre V6 Nissan Elgrand 5 speed automatic. I get around 35mpg on a run and up to 26mpg around town on petrol; and 33mpg on a run and up to 24·5mpg around town on LPG. A Toyota Alphard should do slightly better in 3 litre form due to Toyota engineering being slightly better than Nissan. The 2·4 litre Alphard will probably burn more fuel due to the engine having to work much harder coping with the 2 tonne weight of the vehicle.
Very good video, well and simply explained. Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and write back too.
I’ve copied this from drive lpg.
You can also enter the local prices of Petrol and Autogas if you wish. This calculator is based on a typical MPG "loss" of 20% on Autogas compared to petrol (the energy in a litre of Autogas is less than in a litre of Petrol.)
I agree with you that the Nissans would need flash lube but the alphard 3l appear to have more resilient valves. Flash lube never hurts though but I stopped using it 40000 miles ago. Runs peachy….most of the times.
Lpg does burn very clean but it does require a good engine that runs well on petrol.
I can’t remember what I said I got here
But it’s always improving.
Hi David,
Can you please provide me with the... Rough formula of the equivalent mpg of LPG? I hope I'm making myself clear- I'm looking to find out how to compare the cheaper running costs and distance of LPG as opposed to petrol and diesel mpg. I understand the slight loss of power and mpg drop of LPG engines, but not the equivalence.
Cheers!
Just to clarify for us all. The 3 litre V6 had a four speed auto until 2005, and a five speed until 2008. The newer V6 model, with the 3.5 litre, had a six speed auto.
Good bit of info there. Thank you.
My local LPG petrol station in Old Kent Rd, London cost £0.90p a litre.
I have a Honda Odyssey 2.4l
It can do 130 miles on a 38 litres LPG tank and 180 miles on motorway..
There's alot of petrol station around London has discontinued selling LPG.
It is getting harder to find LPG around London now 😕
The same is happening in Scotland. I plan my journeys around catch the lpg stations. Prices are from 54p to 72p mainly here.
The later Alphards had a 7 speed CVT automatic for the 2.4 and a eCVT for the 2.4 hybrid the 3.5 V6 had a 6 speed automatic.
Spot on.
I’m thinking to get one
I love my Toyota Corolla verso
But I’m thinking to getting one alphar I love the look of this car
Thank you for the videos 😁
Good info
You need to drive one that has not been modded to truly understand what Toyota has achieved.
Thanks and good luck
Interesting post. I'd be interested what your thoughts are on converting my Vellfire to LPG in 2024 as many forecourts are now removing LPG. Do you think they'll be replaced by BioLPG?
It’s not a clear decision anymore. It all depends on where in the country you are. If you’re in Birmingham the yes for eg. If you are in the highlands or say Edinburgh then no.
You really need to way up all the pros and cons for your needs. I hope that helps.
I'm based in mid Kent. There are a few locations supplying LPG but these are slowly disappearing. I've read that BioLPG can be used in current LPG tanks, but haven't come across any forecourts supplying it. Interested to know why you'd convert if in B'ham.
Great channel BTW.
Lots of taxis use lpg there. Also lot of small independent suppliers.
Very interesting something to think more about.
Thank you.
Thanks for the heads up on your latest video helped me find this! Where did you get your LPG install done? An extra 230miles of range (currently only going 500km = 310 miles on our smaller engine size petrol in our camper conversion so adding LPG is nearly 1.75x the range if we get similar millage to you! Plus a bit of a fuel saving). Sounds like it's worth doing at ?about £1.5k to install?) - fellow Edinburger Alphard owner!
I got new acre cars to do mine. They have better systems now though!
@@Cuttothechase putting into Google Maps looks like that's way down south of Birmingham? I do see several alphards on their Google photos page so assuming it's the right business! Had hoped it might be somewhere in the Scottish central belt. A bit more of a logistical challenge heading down that way to get it done!
Can the gas cooker be supplied from the lpg tank? Or do you still have to use a gas bottle?
I have seen a dual tank set up. Two separate tanks. That's even better however they are not interconnected. I hope that helps.
Brilliant video bro just one question does the engine wear out quicker with lpg gas because I always thought if lpg was really good why don't the Japanese fit it as a standard build I am really interested in purchasing a alphard because I've always owned japanease cars I'm in a dilemma from choosing 3.0L or 2.4L because I only do 10 miles local comute per day for work I'm not sure if this will be a nightmare for petrol. Please reply with your outstanding knowledge
2.4 litre would be the cheaper to run. Chain instead of belt. Easier access to spark plugs. About 27 to 29 mpg I think. 3l does about 23 to 24 in my hands.
Some say it does run hotter but my vehicle has done abou 60k on lpg without any valve damage issues. I believe that the Alphard’s have hardened valve seats and hence they work quite well.
I have about 140000 miles on mine as the odometer reads 180000 , a mixture of kms and miles.
I am absolutely not an expert, (so bear that in mind if you're making any decisions based on what I say! 🤔) but I have done quite a bit of research on this subject lately. I think some of the older systems did have problems with burnt out valves due to the lack of inherent lubrication in L.P.G. I believe the newer systems get round this by installing a "flash lube" system that involves injecting a lubricant into the system, this is stored in a little tank that requires topping up periodically (not a big job, it's just like topping up your washer bottle). Hope this helps (remember.... NOT an expert!!). 😁
@@simongray2533 that is spot on however with these engines, a lot of them have the lube fitted but don’t use it. Like mine hasn’t seen line applied for 2 years.
@@Cuttothechase Aye, like I say I'm definately no expert. I've just been exploring options as I'm hoping to buy a 3.5ltr Vellfire later this year or early next 🤞😁. I'm enjoying your channel by the way! 👍
Great review. 👍🏻
Thanks a lot for the feedback. It's great to hear that the channel is useful.
What id the hybrid battary like? Do the batteries last.
I'm not experienced in hybrids. In a nutshell, series 20 plus for hybrids. Make sure you have dealer level support. Speak to New Acre Cars before pulling the trigger
I see the roof box on your wonderfull alphard. Could you tell me the thule kids ID you are using and where did you buy it? Do you also know the max dynamic load?
50kg max dynamic load. Similar for all roof boxes and there is a video in my channel regarding the Thule fitting kit. It’s out of production just now though.
The newer ones came with 3.5 V6 engine
Hi I want to ask u a question
Ur gas tank is it 75 lt or 50 lt
And how many miles u do on full tank on lpg thanks
My tank holds 50l of gas so maybe a 68l or so. I forget. The. Range varies but 186 is my usual. See the video i made on lpg ranges.
@@Cuttothechase
Thank you
hi, what is the device you have on the dash that shows the speed and speed limit, do you have a link also? thank you
It's a road 😇 angel.
And I popped up a new video for it.
We have LPG stove in the alphard. Is it usually very slow when filling?
A litre every 4 seconds or so.
Maybe every 7 seconds. I zone out and work out my calf muscles.
I got just over 3 lit in 4 minutes
@@theresamartin68 lol. Release the button and press it again and that should make it faster.
Does Valve Saver kit work with Altis Valve too, I'm curious.
I rarely have any oil in that valve saver. I thinks the valves on the alphard are pretty hard and resistant to heat. I would assume that the need or not for valve saver is dependent on each vehicle.
I’m looking to buy one of these , just sold our Mazda bongo want to replace it with a 3.0 Alphard
They are incredible. You must drive one.
There are other videos on this channel by the way.
@@Cuttothechase
I’m thinking of using an agent to import one rather than going to a dealer
It has to be a v6 not interested in the four pot 👍🏻
Make sure you get support too. When things go wrong a good dealer supports you. I don't worry about broken lights etc as I know my dealer will get me them....4 years on!
@@Cuttothechase
I’ve been watching them , I don’t think your too far away from me
I’ve not seen any decent dealers in the Glasgow area , do you know of any ?
What is the donging noise when you say petrol to the LPG at the end of the vid like you did not wan't us to here something 🤔
It’s a text message coming in 😂
So it’s really just £150 over the ten thousand miles!
Hi. Could you tell me which video that is relating too and I will watch it again. It’s been some time since I made it.
@@Cuttothechase ua-cam.com/video/MoShDKiuYGU/v-deo.html&lc=UgyPfiVihYFdpdljiPF4AaABAg.9cYUqIWOQg49cYVYFk88hV&ab_channel=Cuttothechase
At 2:23
Interesting when did you pay for the change?
I did it before I took ownership of the car.