Those outboards are awesome. I love the idea that if something fails catastrophically, its just a really easy drop in replacement pretty much anywhere on earth and relatively speaking, cheap.
Thank you ! Always fun to see the results of your sailboat builds and how well their holding up . Interesting to get an opinion on the 9.8 compared to the 6hp . Interesting to see your view of looking for a weather window and some commentary of possible take off points to go to the Bahamas . One of your best video's yet although I love your build video's also . Thank you !
thats a sailboat ,loved how clean it and accessible everything is,, there will be no hidden surprises looks as good as it did when handed over after refit first class job , i,m so jealous
Andy is an awesome dude. Marco, another one of your customers, sent his contact info when he passed through. I really really like the aluminum toerail and the removable sprit. I would love to do something similar to my Alberg 35.
The refit is really nice. I want to replace the windows on my Victoire 25 and the windows you fitted exactly what I am looking for. Could you let me have information to the windows?
Here's my video on installing acrylic windows: ua-cam.com/video/XaRWHpz6fNg/v-deo.html I usually use the light gray tint 3/8" thick cast plexiglas acrylic and get it in 24" x 48" 1/4 sheets for more easy shipping. Here's a link to the clear so you may have to phone them to see if they stopped selling the tinted in this thickness or find another supplier: www.estreetplastics.com/3-8-x-24-x-48-Clear-Acrylic-Plexiglass-Sheet-p/1003752448.htm
Sometimes the boats arrive here without doors. More often we get rid of them because on some of these small boats they are awkward to use or get in the way of an overhanging compost toilet or the footrests or a modified v-berth doesn't allow it or they block easy access and the extra weight is unwelcome. When these aren't an issue or if more privacy than a curtain is wanted, we keep one door between salon and head but usually not for the v-berth where a curtain will do.
Hello James - will a slightly bigger engine be practical vs the 9.8? Theoretically it should give you more power, though not sure about the added weight aft? To me it looked like the lazarette could take a slightly bigger engine. Very informative as always...thanks for sharing.
Not only is a slightly larger engine heavier it won't fit in the locker. When the engine is tilted up it already comes close to the forward bulkhead and when it's down the motor head is close to the transom. Just as well though since more power than 9.8 really isn't needed. Inboard diesels HP is rated differently but if you were able to compare thrust rather than HP ratings you'd see the diesel is over rated and the outboard under rated.
A number of years ago I refitted a Pearson Ariel and the refit included a new diesel...can't recall the brand but it was painted orange. Lovely thing and plenty of power with 6 or 8 horses, I don't recall. I had hoped to find a Triton but the Ariel was the only thing close after 2-3 years of looking and I was an inland sailor. Alberg boats are still just the most amazing boats I've ever seen or been privileged to sail upon. This is a beautiful upgrade for offshore but I'd be concerned about storage space for canned and dried goods. And I'm curious. I think you indicated that sewage from the head goes into a holding tank. Does that tank have the capability to be emptied at sea?
The three valves visible outboard of the toilet can be turned so that the toilet pump can pump the waste tank overboard through the direct overboard seacock. For legalities, one of the valves is locked in the waste tank position until the boat is offshore and then set to direct overboard discharge.
@atomvoyager Great video and superb work! I realize the work done on this boat was extensive, but what is the cost for such a refit? I love Albergs and would like to factor in the cost of a refit if ever I purchased one. Thanks!
I don't have all the costs available on this boat but in general, this type of complete Voyager Edition refit on a typical A30 would cost around $60-90K depending on boat's condition and options selected. That's not affordable for most owners so I have some How To videos for many of the modifications done so that owners can have a guide to do some of this work themselves or hire it done locally. I also offer consulting by phone and email for DIY folks that need some guidance. I can be contacted at atomvoyages.com
This boat in its current state was listed for sale last year for $40K 5 years after the refit was done. Commissioning a similar project from us would cost much more than that. The main reason why I have a series of refit videos on this channel is so that owners can tackle some of these jobs themselves since the cost to have it done professionally is often beyond their budget.
Since the outboard prop is further aft, where the boat motion is greater, and not as low as an inboard prop, it's not going to be as effective in rough water. But being enclosed in the lazarette locker it's way more functional in that regard than an outboard mounted on a transom bracket. So it's a compromise for people who don't want all the issues of a diesel on a small boat and are willing to trade some rough water motoring performance when sails will usually work better anyway. This boat gets about 6 knots in a calm when motoring with the 9.8 so it has plenty of power. Diesel hp has losses and is rated differently so the 9.8 is more like a 15hp diesel. We've motored this boat out an inlet with 15 knots wind against tide and were able to carry on so although it has its limits it's remarkably effective.
@@atomvoyager Thank you for the detailed response. One last question instead of a 9.8 engine would it be possible to place a more powerful outboard instead with a bit more horse power without compromising weight distribution on the stern? Also very nice boat and congratulation's.
@@limitededition3278 I don't think there is space for a bigger motor and the extra weight would not be warranted since the 9.8 has plenty of thrust. I think people underestimate these motors because they have never used one that's protected within a properly designed outboard well. Here's a two-part article explaining my thoughts on this: atomvoyages.com/articles/the-improved-outboard-well/
May I inquire what brand/model of aluminum toe rail you used? I am restoring my own 1967-model A30 and am contemplating the replacement of the toe rail on my boat - like yours. the original solid-teak toe rail was done & I removed it entirely. I have made a new transom railing (that was a challenge) in mahogany as teak is way too expensive, as well as the wood block at the bow plate. I have roughed-out new mahogany toe rails for installation this spring but am not thrilled about it. An aluminum toe rail would be preferable. Thanks for any information you can offer.
The toe rail is from Crest Aluminum model # 2807-24 www.crestaluminum.com/toerail.htm Here's the aluminum toe rail installation video: ua-cam.com/video/CivvqwU64eI/v-deo.html And here is a recent discussion on installing them on an A30: plasticclassicforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6370&p=52820&hilit=toe+rail#p52820
This boat did not have leaks in the actual hull/deck joint but did shows signs of the fasteners for hardware and toe rail leaking which we took care of. I'm not sure of the Trintella 29 deck joint assembly but if you have leaks you will want to remove any bolted on toe rail or rub rail and rebed it along with every fastener. Once everything is off you can inspect the actual hull/deck joint to address that if needed.
I don't have classes but do local sailing instructions and consulting for those who want to work on their own boat with some guidance. Or sometimes I'll have someone assist me on a few boat jobs I have going and that's a type of informal class. If you want to discuss it you can contact me through atomvoyages.com. My email address is at the bottom of the page.
I make two versions - retractable and removable, although the retractable one can also be removed, if needed. This one is removable and sits in a socket. Here's a link to details on the retractable version: ua-cam.com/video/pixDwrC-BZM/v-deo.html
@@csafdari Here's a video showing the removable sprit that fits into a socket between the two rollers at around the 13 minute mark: ua-cam.com/video/zXdS0ufiu1I/v-deo.html
Assuming evolution theory correct, a Baldwin A30 Voyager Edition is to an original A30, as is a modern day albatross to it's plodding, 4 legged "giant lizard" ancestors. :)
Your work is beautiful and amazing
Those outboards are awesome. I love the idea that if something fails catastrophically, its just a really easy drop in replacement pretty much anywhere on earth and relatively speaking, cheap.
I have never sailed before but have always dream of it. I am a new Subscriber and really enjoy the things I'm learning. Thankyou!
Albergs are awesome boats.
They are wonderful boats. We had an Alberg 30 in British Columbia for 19 years, from 1976 until 1995. Such a beautiful boat!
Excellent boat and setup for 1 or 2 crew. A person could go anywhere weather allowing.
I saw this as boat in Peck Lake. It may still be here. It looked great. I thought it might be one of Adam's rebuilds.
Yes this A30, now renamed Tunica, was there last week. They're at West Palm now getting ready to depart for Bahamas.
@@atomvoyager I met James today in Peck Lake. Plan on touring the boat later this week.
Thank you ! Always fun to see the results of your sailboat builds and how well their holding up . Interesting to get an opinion on the 9.8 compared to the 6hp . Interesting to see your view of looking for a weather window and some commentary of possible take off points to go to the Bahamas . One of your best video's yet although I love your build video's also . Thank you !
Thanks for your feedback. There's more boats to come including a Cape Dory 27 tour and Albin Ballad 30 refit.
Fair winds Andy!
thats a sailboat ,loved how clean it and accessible everything is,, there will be no hidden surprises looks as good as it did when handed over after refit first class job , i,m so jealous
Andy is an awesome dude. Marco, another one of your customers, sent his contact info when he passed through. I really really like the aluminum toerail and the removable sprit. I would love to do something similar to my Alberg 35.
Wow. Gorgeous boat! My Alberg 30 #202 is jealous!
Good sailboat ⛵, congratulations. Greetings from Hawaii islands 🏝
This is damned good boat.
The refit is really nice. I want to replace the windows on my Victoire 25 and the windows you fitted exactly what I am looking for. Could you let me have information to the windows?
Here's my video on installing acrylic windows: ua-cam.com/video/XaRWHpz6fNg/v-deo.html
I usually use the light gray tint 3/8" thick cast plexiglas acrylic and get it in 24" x 48" 1/4 sheets for more easy shipping. Here's a link to the clear so you may have to phone them to see if they stopped selling the tinted in this thickness or find another supplier: www.estreetplastics.com/3-8-x-24-x-48-Clear-Acrylic-Plexiglass-Sheet-p/1003752448.htm
Hi. Can I ask why you remove the cabin-head doors in a lot of your refits? I would love to know the reasoning behind it. Thanks. Great videos. :-)
Sometimes the boats arrive here without doors. More often we get rid of them because on some of these small boats they are awkward to use or get in the way of an overhanging compost toilet or the footrests or a modified v-berth doesn't allow it or they block easy access and the extra weight is unwelcome. When these aren't an issue or if more privacy than a curtain is wanted, we keep one door between salon and head but usually not for the v-berth where a curtain will do.
Hello James - will a slightly bigger engine be practical vs the 9.8? Theoretically it should give you more power, though not sure about the added weight aft? To me it looked like the lazarette could take a slightly bigger engine. Very informative as always...thanks for sharing.
Not only is a slightly larger engine heavier it won't fit in the locker. When the engine is tilted up it already comes close to the forward bulkhead and when it's down the motor head is close to the transom. Just as well though since more power than 9.8 really isn't needed. Inboard diesels HP is rated differently but if you were able to compare thrust rather than HP ratings you'd see the diesel is over rated and the outboard under rated.
@@atomvoyager Thank you for your insightful response.
Nice job
A number of years ago I refitted a Pearson Ariel and the refit included a new diesel...can't recall the brand but it was painted orange. Lovely thing and plenty of power with 6 or 8 horses, I don't recall. I had hoped to find a Triton but the Ariel was the only thing close after 2-3 years of looking and I was an inland sailor. Alberg boats are still just the most amazing boats I've ever seen or been privileged to sail upon.
This is a beautiful upgrade for offshore but I'd be concerned about storage space for canned and dried goods. And I'm curious. I think you indicated that sewage from the head goes into a holding tank. Does that tank have the capability to be emptied at sea?
The three valves visible outboard of the toilet can be turned so that the toilet pump can pump the waste tank overboard through the direct overboard seacock. For legalities, one of the valves is locked in the waste tank position until the boat is offshore and then set to direct overboard discharge.
@atomvoyager
Great video and superb work!
I realize the work done on this boat was extensive, but what is the cost for such a refit? I love Albergs and would like to factor in the cost of a refit if ever I purchased one.
Thanks!
I don't have all the costs available on this boat but in general, this type of complete Voyager Edition refit on a typical A30 would cost around $60-90K depending on boat's condition and options selected. That's not affordable for most owners so I have some How To videos for many of the modifications done so that owners can have a guide to do some of this work themselves or hire it done locally. I also offer consulting by phone and email for DIY folks that need some guidance. I can be contacted at atomvoyages.com
@@atomvoyager Great thanks!
A nice boat! Less is more
Looks great! Curious how much a renovated boat like this costs?
This boat in its current state was listed for sale last year for $40K 5 years after the refit was done. Commissioning a similar project from us would cost much more than that. The main reason why I have a series of refit videos on this channel is so that owners can tackle some of these jobs themselves since the cost to have it done professionally is often beyond their budget.
Are those the factory gimbals and potholder for the Origo? I have a 1500, that is not gimbaled and I would like to make it so.
Yes they are factory parts and are sometimes available on ebay.
@@atomvoyager Thanks James. Will set an ebay alert.
I am curious for blue water crossing in rougher seas how effective is the outboard 98 ?
Since the outboard prop is further aft, where the boat motion is greater, and not as low as an inboard prop, it's not going to be as effective in rough water. But being enclosed in the lazarette locker it's way more functional in that regard than an outboard mounted on a transom bracket. So it's a compromise for people who don't want all the issues of a diesel on a small boat and are willing to trade some rough water motoring performance when sails will usually work better anyway. This boat gets about 6 knots in a calm when motoring with the 9.8 so it has plenty of power. Diesel hp has losses and is rated differently so the 9.8 is more like a 15hp diesel. We've motored this boat out an inlet with 15 knots wind against tide and were able to carry on so although it has its limits it's remarkably effective.
@@atomvoyager Thank you for the detailed response. One last question instead of a 9.8 engine would it be possible to place a more powerful outboard instead with a bit more horse power without compromising weight distribution on the stern? Also very nice boat and congratulation's.
@@limitededition3278 I don't think there is space for a bigger motor and the extra weight would not be warranted since the 9.8 has plenty of thrust. I think people underestimate these motors because they have never used one that's protected within a properly designed outboard well. Here's a two-part article explaining my thoughts on this: atomvoyages.com/articles/the-improved-outboard-well/
@@atomvoyager Thank you for your responses very .uch appreciated
May I inquire what brand/model of aluminum toe rail you used? I am restoring my own 1967-model A30 and am contemplating the replacement of the toe rail on my boat - like yours. the original solid-teak toe rail was done & I removed it entirely. I have made a new transom railing (that was a challenge) in mahogany as teak is way too expensive, as well as the wood block at the bow plate. I have roughed-out new mahogany toe rails for installation this spring but am not thrilled about it. An aluminum toe rail would be preferable. Thanks for any information you can offer.
The toe rail is from Crest Aluminum model # 2807-24
www.crestaluminum.com/toerail.htm
Here's the aluminum toe rail installation video:
ua-cam.com/video/CivvqwU64eI/v-deo.html
And here is a recent discussion on installing them on an A30:
plasticclassicforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6370&p=52820&hilit=toe+rail#p52820
Thank you! Do you get any hull / deck joint leaks when sailing in heavy weather or rain? I am working on a similar boat, a van de Stadt Trintella 29.
This boat did not have leaks in the actual hull/deck joint but did shows signs of the fasteners for hardware and toe rail leaking which we took care of. I'm not sure of the Trintella 29 deck joint assembly but if you have leaks you will want to remove any bolted on toe rail or rub rail and rebed it along with every fastener. Once everything is off you can inspect the actual hull/deck joint to address that if needed.
I’m 30 minutes from Brunswick. Do u offer any classes of any kind?
I don't have classes but do local sailing instructions and consulting for those who want to work on their own boat with some guidance. Or sometimes I'll have someone assist me on a few boat jobs I have going and that's a type of informal class. If you want to discuss it you can contact me through atomvoyages.com. My email address is at the bottom of the page.
Impressive.
Can we pls see details removable sprit pole?
I make two versions - retractable and removable, although the retractable one can also be removed, if needed. This one is removable and sits in a socket. Here's a link to details on the retractable version:
ua-cam.com/video/pixDwrC-BZM/v-deo.html
@@atomvoyager thx, I have dual bow rollers on a teak platform, need to fit a sprit pole in between them, somehow clearing the anchor
@@csafdari Here's a video showing the removable sprit that fits into a socket between the two rollers at around the 13 minute mark:
ua-cam.com/video/zXdS0ufiu1I/v-deo.html
How can I steal your idea there, details! :)
I hate inboard motors they own you , this is a way better idea.
COVID test this..
Assuming evolution theory correct, a Baldwin A30 Voyager Edition is to an original A30, as is a modern day albatross to it's plodding, 4 legged "giant lizard" ancestors. :)