"Thus says The Holy One, your Redeemer: Beloved, My treasure, My most beloved ones, here I am! Hear Me! I am poured out like wax before the fire; like a candle, I am dripping with tears! Yet you have not come to Me! My love was poured out, My spirit fell like rain upon the nations... Tears and great mourning... I poured Myself out to heal the nations! Blood and tears, pools of blood, the agony of My passion, My love put on open display! Yet who is healed in My love? Where is the harvest among the nations, according to the latter rain? It withers, blighted wheat waning in the heat of the noonday sun, planted in the hard and cracked ground, revealing the broken roots thereof; the rains have ceased and are withheld from the land, the hand of The Holy One removed. Captive children, held fast by the pride and arrogance of men whose hearts remain far from Me, shackled to a world of bitter enmity against God and His Messiah, refusing My Letters of Love, stopping your ears to My voice... Weeping and many tears... I had set you free! Behold, I have freely given! I have not ceased from calling to you through My spirit and by the pen of My prophets, yet you will not listen, nor will you give heed! Even you, O churches of men, will in no wise hear Me, nor are you able! - Arrogant assemblies! DEAF CHILDREN! Bitter children, amiss in your dealings with Me, I love you, yet you refuse Me still In favor of your own way!... Peoples of this world, and all pastors And teachers and leaders among men, You are forsaken, given up to the fire... The fires of My own correction, The harsh discipline of The Father, The day of refinement and tears. I love you, yet you have not known Me; neither do I see of Myself in you... Our hearts torn. For I see your hearts, beloved, I see and know. Behold, I have searched, and have not found even one tittle of that which is of Me! Cry out, therefore! Call out to your Savior! Call upon your Maker in My name! DIE TO YOURSELVES! Forsake this world and run to Me through the fire, and I shall abide with you in the heat of its burning, until that which must be done is finished and you emerge purified. Humble yourselves! Cast yourselves down! I am your Father! I LOVE YOU! Yet you have departed from Me, wasting your inheritance in a world of unbridled sin, a world which even now hates you, a world which you have loved more than Me, even yourselves! And so I have written to you page after page by the pen of My prophets, shouting to you by all manner of speaking and devices, calling to you across the ages, speaking to THIS generation with many tears and much sorrow, warning you of My wrath which must come and is now here and shall quickly overtake this world. And still you push out the hand! Do you not understand?! I have seen it; nothing escapes My eye! Churches of men, I have seen it! Modern Pharisees, you fight against Me! You fight against The God of your fathers, The One and Only True God! And whatsoever you do to even one of these I have sent to you, whether in word or by deed, you have done it to Me!... Yet I love you still... My heart is torn, a rent which widens, a rent which you have made! Why do you tear yourselves from Me?! For apart from Me, you can do nothing! Apart from Me is darkness, thick darkness and death! The time has passed, beloved ones; My bride is chosen and the first election is made; the bundles are prepared and set in their places. Therefore I tell you, when you look for Me in the Day, look no more to yourselves, nor in man-made churches; behold, they shall all be torn down! For in them I have not dwelled... I dwell in the hearts of men! And when darkness has fallen and your tears well up, a bitter rain brought forth from a heart severely broken, from a spirit crushed by the weight of realization, run and seek out My beacons, My witnesses. For they shall lead you through the fire, and I shall abide with you, accompanying you on your journey... A journey of service and great hardship, of many tears and great sorrows, suffering on every side; a journey of love and hope in the midst of great adversity, the end of which shall bring a great multitude into My love, with every servant washing the feet of his neighbor until death comes and sets you free; caught up into My love, healed in an instant, refashioned in glory, remade in My image, partaking of My life fully. For as many as I love, I rebuke and chasten, Bringing forth much thanksgiving To the praise of My glory... As it is written, so shall it be done... Therefore trust in My ways, For I am The King alone; Apart from Me, there is nothing at all." trumpetcallofgod.com
On a practical level, this "God" shouldn't try to prevent every little sin. This is common sense. But what about baby killing? Or disease? Come on. A good "God" would do anything in it's power to protect it's people. The problem is, the God of the Bible, for the most part, was a war God. Really not much more than that. Here's a little test. Take a moment and imagine you had the all powerful abilities that this God has. What would you do? Take a few minutes to think about. When your done, think about the fact that you worship a God that does none of these things. It could be that this God doesn't care about babies. 1 Samuel 15:3 seems to come to mind. What good does it do to worship a God that does nothing. NOTHING. Oh, there is a vague promise of an afterlife. No thanks. If this God did exist, I would choose not to worship it.
+Dane Carr I don't think free will has anything to do with disease or evil perpetuated by other people. How is it losing freedom if diseases were stopped. How is it losing freedom if God stopped a murderer? The only people that will lose their freedom would be the evil people. Who created disease? For what purpose? Who create evil? For what purpose? God created these things. The purpose I can only speculate. And I speculate that this God might actually be the evil one. Where the good one is, I have no idea. So tell me, why worship this god? If a god demands worship and obedience, wouldn't this god present himself as a god worthy of worshiping? You assert that God works in mysterious ways. I assert he doesn't exist.
+Dane Carr Ahh, free will, the Christian cop out. You're argument to why your god does not intervene is because of free will. You're god destroyed every single living being on Earth except for 8 people. This includes all the children of the world. All the un-born children of the world. Every single animal that was not on the Ark, animals that have no sin and do not know evil. Where was there free will? You're god killed approximately 500,000 Egyptian children for the sole reason of being the first born in their immediate family. The fucked up thing is that you're god made Pharaoh deny the slaves from leaving just to show he could do this. Where was these little kids free will? Forty-two children were killed by a couple of bears sent by you're god for teasing one of his prophets for being bald. Where was their free-will. There are literally several more millions of people killed by the influence of you're God. And this is just in the Bible. Imagine how many more throughout history. Now here's the good one. You're god raped and impregnated a very young teenage girl for the sole purpose of having the child grow up to be tortured and killed. Where was his free will? (By the way, if Jesus died for your sins, why is there still a Judgement Day? And if there is free will and Christians cherish this, why do they pray to have God intervene in their lives? If free will prevents you're god from intervening how come every unexplained event that happens is attributed to this god? If you're god refuses to intervene, why worship it? What good is a god that does nothing? “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Wow!! Such a good teaching. I also have a teaching on Why do Christians Suffer.
Thanks you seriously helped with my bad thoughts 🙂
"Thus says The Holy One, your Redeemer: Beloved, My treasure, My most beloved ones, here I am! Hear Me! I am poured out like wax before the fire; like a candle, I am dripping with tears! Yet you have not come to Me! My love was poured out, My spirit fell like rain upon the nations... Tears and great mourning... I poured Myself out to heal the nations! Blood and tears, pools of blood, the agony of My passion, My love put on open display!
Yet who is healed in My love? Where is the harvest among the nations, according to the latter rain? It withers, blighted wheat waning in the heat of the noonday sun, planted in the hard and cracked ground, revealing the broken roots thereof; the rains have ceased and are withheld from the land, the hand of The Holy One removed.
Captive children, held fast by the pride and arrogance of men whose hearts remain far from Me, shackled to a world of bitter enmity against God and His Messiah, refusing My Letters of Love, stopping your ears to My voice... Weeping and many tears... I had set you free! Behold, I have freely given! I have not ceased from calling to you through My spirit and by the pen of My prophets, yet you will not listen, nor will you give heed! Even you, O churches of men, will in no wise hear Me, nor are you able! - Arrogant assemblies! DEAF CHILDREN!
Bitter children, amiss in your dealings with Me,
I love you, yet you refuse Me still
In favor of your own way!...
Peoples of this world, and all pastors
And teachers and leaders among men,
You are forsaken, given up to the fire...
The fires of My own correction,
The harsh discipline of The Father,
The day of refinement and tears.
I love you, yet you have not known Me; neither do I see of Myself in you... Our hearts torn. For I see your hearts, beloved, I see and know. Behold, I have searched, and have not found even one tittle of that which is of Me! Cry out, therefore! Call out to your Savior! Call upon your Maker in My name! DIE TO YOURSELVES! Forsake this world and run to Me through the fire, and I shall abide with you in the heat of its burning, until that which must be done is finished and you emerge purified.
Humble yourselves! Cast yourselves down! I am your Father! I LOVE YOU! Yet you have departed from Me, wasting your inheritance in a world of unbridled sin, a world which even now hates you, a world which you have loved more than Me, even yourselves!
And so I have written to you page after page by the pen of My prophets, shouting to you by all manner of speaking and devices, calling to you across the ages, speaking to THIS generation with many tears and much sorrow, warning you of My wrath which must come and is now here and shall quickly overtake this world. And still you push out the hand! Do you not understand?! I have seen it; nothing escapes My eye!
Churches of men, I have seen it! Modern Pharisees, you fight against Me! You fight against The God of your fathers, The One and Only True God! And whatsoever you do to even one of these I have sent to you, whether in word or by deed, you have done it to Me!... Yet I love you still... My heart is torn, a rent which widens, a rent which you have made! Why do you tear yourselves from Me?! For apart from Me, you can do nothing! Apart from Me is darkness, thick darkness and death!
The time has passed, beloved ones; My bride is chosen and the first election is made; the bundles are prepared and set in their places. Therefore I tell you, when you look for Me in the Day, look no more to yourselves, nor in man-made churches; behold, they shall all be torn down! For in them I have not dwelled... I dwell in the hearts of men!
And when darkness has fallen and your tears well up, a bitter rain brought forth from a heart severely broken, from a spirit crushed by the weight of realization, run and seek out My beacons, My witnesses. For they shall lead you through the fire, and I shall abide with you, accompanying you on your journey... A journey of service and great hardship, of many tears and great sorrows, suffering on every side; a journey of love and hope in the midst of great adversity, the end of which shall bring a great multitude into My love, with every servant washing the feet of his neighbor until death comes and sets you free; caught up into My love, healed in an instant, refashioned in glory, remade in My image, partaking of My life fully.
For as many as I love, I rebuke and chasten,
Bringing forth much thanksgiving
To the praise of My glory...
As it is written, so shall it be done...
Therefore trust in My ways,
For I am The King alone;
Apart from Me, there is nothing at all."
trumpetcallofgod.com
On a practical level, this "God" shouldn't try to prevent every little sin. This is common sense. But what about baby killing? Or disease? Come on. A good "God" would do anything in it's power to protect it's people. The problem is, the God of the Bible, for the most part, was a war God. Really not much more than that.
Here's a little test. Take a moment and imagine you had the all powerful abilities that this God has. What would you do? Take a few minutes to think about. When your done, think about the fact that you worship a God that does none of these things.
It could be that this God doesn't care about babies. 1 Samuel 15:3 seems to come to mind.
What good does it do to worship a God that does nothing. NOTHING. Oh, there is a vague promise of an afterlife. No thanks. If this God did exist, I would choose not to worship it.
+Dane Carr I don't think free will has anything to do with disease or evil perpetuated by other people. How is it losing freedom if diseases were stopped. How is it losing freedom if God stopped a murderer? The only people that will lose their freedom would be the evil people.
Who created disease? For what purpose? Who create evil? For what purpose? God created these things. The purpose I can only speculate. And I speculate that this God might actually be the evil one. Where the good one is, I have no idea.
So tell me, why worship this god? If a god demands worship and obedience, wouldn't this god present himself as a god worthy of worshiping? You assert that God works in mysterious ways. I assert he doesn't exist.
+Dane Carr Ahh, free will, the Christian cop out.
You're argument to why your god does not intervene is because of free will.
You're god destroyed every single living being on Earth except for 8 people. This includes all the children of the world. All the un-born children of the world. Every single animal that was not on the Ark, animals that have no sin and do not know evil. Where was there free will?
You're god killed approximately 500,000 Egyptian children for the sole reason of being the first born in their immediate family. The fucked up thing is that you're god made Pharaoh deny the slaves from leaving just to show he could do this. Where was these little kids free will?
Forty-two children were killed by a couple of bears sent by you're god for teasing one of his prophets for being bald. Where was their free-will.
There are literally several more millions of people killed by the influence of you're God. And this is just in the Bible. Imagine how many more throughout history.
Now here's the good one. You're god raped and impregnated a very young teenage girl for the sole purpose of having the child grow up to be tortured and killed. Where was his free will? (By the way, if Jesus died for your sins, why is there still a Judgement Day?
And if there is free will and Christians cherish this, why do they pray to have God intervene in their lives? If free will prevents you're god from intervening how come every unexplained event that happens is attributed to this god?
If you're god refuses to intervene, why worship it? What good is a god that does nothing?
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Because unlike god, pain and suffering actually exist.