Hermetic Philosophy - Earliest European Hermeticism - Crater Hermetis - Ludovico Lazzarelli
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2021
- Hermetic Philosophy conjures to mind a range of associations from modern initiatory orders to ancient theosophical speculations. But, who was the first truly hermetic philosopher in Europe? You may be surprised that it wasn't Ficino, Pico, Bruno or Dee but the Italian poet Lodovico Lazzarelli (1447-1500) whose work the Crater Hermetis (The Mixing Bowl of Hermes) is also the first true work of Hermetic Philosophy in Europe.
Recommended Reading:
Hanegraaff & Bouthoorn - Lodovico Lazzarelli (1447 1500): The Hermetic Writings and Related Documents - 978-0866983242
Original 1505 Latin Edition - archive.org/details/ita-bnc-m...
Also check out my reading lists on my episode on the Hermetica
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I'm still contacting every possible human being to find even a used copy of the Hanegraaff.... i'm going mad!
@@danielwise7678 ILL is your friend, here.
@@TheEsotericaChannel You mean ILLness for book? Or there is a secret message that i didn't catched ? ahahah
@@danielwise7678 The esoteric secrets of Inter-Library Loan! You can probably get it via the library through ILL - that's how I got it!
@@TheEsotericaChannel Thank you so much , i didn't get it :)
What a _ko-wink-e-dink_ ! I heard of Lazzarelli and the Crater Hermetis for the first time about four days ago while listening to a lecture by Dr. Pierre Grimes ( _The Sacred Myths of Plato: Phaedo_ ). And here you are now doing a full show on him. You da man, Sledge...(ahem)...Dr. Sledge. By the way...love the "mugshots," "hermetic ducks," and I had to stop the video because I was laughing so hard at the simpatico patron _struggle_ you and Lazzarelli share.
I'm a historical archaeologist mostly researching Early Modern Scandinavia and I'm learning So Many Things relevant to this period - and there is certainly an archaeological = material culture aspect to much of this. Thank you for teaching me things I didn't know I was interested in!
Yes! First time I've seen my name in the end credits. And quite well worth it. I miss being at a university and getting this kind of detailed knowledge; thank you truly.
I'm so glad to be able to make it happen and I'm so thankful for your support!
I now have formed a habit of sitting down on a Friday afternoon or evening and having an absinthe while listening to Dr Sledge.
Got a copy of this bad boy back when it cost a normal academic book price. 900$!!! What a return!
#hermeticcapitalism :)
$900 ... for a book? 😱 If only I could afford such knowledge.
Bruh if you still got it, scan it in and upload it so we can all read it 🥺🥺🥺
Just for the sake of curiosity I checked amazon and of course its out of print. A boy can dream i suppose.
I hope you were able to create some spiritual beings at least for that price.
I've read a lot of books on occult philosophy and hermeticism, but I'd never heard of Lazzarelli. Thank you for continuing to enlighten me on esoteric topics. You truly are a wealth of knowledge.
If you ever cover the role mathematics has to the occult that would be really cool, as I know that nearly every major player in the development of mathematics and every major branch of mathematics created before 1700 also has very strong links to the occult.
Excellent work on a sadly unknown aspect of Hermeticism. I learned a lot. Thank you.
Super interesting stuff indeed !
I like the Kybalion, but I never thought it was a real Hermetic work, pretty clearly a modern Theosophical interpretation... and yet in the past few years it seems on youtube at least, people take it all at face value... well anyways, great video, hopefully a new edition of the Crater comes out
It was included in an hermetic audio collection I got. Very well written, and way out there if you know the least thing about historical alchemists.
If you compare it to some of the old hermetic classics, the contrast becomes fairly obvious.
Unfortunately, the 19th and 20th century occult literature are filled with plagiarized forgeries intended to make the author famous or rich. And people have a bad habit of taking them at their face value.
31:00 🤣. Please do a video explaining why The Kybalion is a sudo Hermetic text. I would love to learn more about it.
IIRC he kinda did. In another video on hermeticism he published some time ago
It's basically just a new age text that co-opts hermeticism.
For one, the 7 principals/laws aren't all found in the original hermetica. For example, the principal of mentalism. All comes originally from a mind, wether that mind be the first cause or an animal mind, but to say we can create our reality by merely thinking about it isnt really hermetic. This also includes the principal of vibration.
Further, it follows a kind of "restorationist" narrative that argues that all national religions were founded by this particular philosophy but was lost almost utterly.a few people who knew this stuff graciously gave us back the truth in 1912🤭 as far as Ive understood, true hermeticism can never be lost or become so obscure it's preserved only by a line of sucesive teachers and students. Hermeticism is , in its very essence, secretive. However, secretive In the sense that most aren't interested in knowing the secret. it's at all times accessible to those who earnestly want to know truth. Seek and ye shall find! I mean, just take the first chapter of the hermetica. Poimandres teaches Hermes directly. Though, it is optimal to find yourself a spiritual master if you too want to master spirituality , the divine/supernatural are willing to stoop down to help us out. I also think the subtle attack on mainstream religion by the three initiates is just.... Lame and played out. They almost offer their work as the one true religion, which isn't hermetic at all. Hermeticists seek truth wherever it is, and they should honor those individuals deeply embedded in their own particular religious tradition . I honestly think you'd get more philosophical and spiritual guidance from reading a few lines of the desert father's, or a prayer from mother Theresa , or a marabout than read the entire kybalion. It's just a waste of time and can mess you up if you get in to other hermetic works.
What a great episode and Man! you are funny. (silence) Kybalion (silence) I could not stop laughing.
I was wondering what Dr.S whispered..
It wouldn't be mysticism without shade 8)
Same, I was at work just listening and bursted out laughing.
I had read some analysis by Lance Owens about the Hermetic roots of my heretical Christian faith (LDS), and this is providing a deeper understanding.
Speaking of Owens: Tolkien as a transmitter of Hermetic ideas?
"Man, sub-creator, the refracted light
through whom is splintered from a single White
to many hues, and endlessly combined
in _living shapes_ that move from mind to mind.
Though all the crannies of the world we fill'd
with elves and goblins, though we _dared to build_
_gods and their houses_ out of dark and light
and sowed the seed of dragons, 'twas our right
(used or misused). That light has not decayed.
We make still by the law in which we're made."
HERMETIC MUGSHOTS, OMG. From all the jokes about that page in ‘A true and faithful relation...’ that is by. far. the best!!
Superb presentation Dr S!!! When you put these subjects in their context and bring forth the humanity behind the names and events related to them I feel I am really beginning to appreciate how important esoteric thought has been in shaping so much of the underpinning of our cultural outlooks as they've developed over the centuries. Thanks so much.
It is so nice to see and hear someone talk about History from a philosophical perspective. It is so hard and frustrating to watch the Humanities being attack by modernism, but it is great to see a few fighting back for the importance. It is depressing that intellectualism and channels like Esoterica are seen as psychotic or enemies by the vast majority. Thank you so much for not leaving and sticking around. The world needs Humanities, especially Philosophy.
Thank you for another great video!!
Great content as usual Justin
Well done as usual, thank you! Very useful.
To know thyself is to know your devine essence!
yet another banger video by dr. sledge. all your work puts so many fleeting ideas into my mind that it's hard to formulate any sensible feedback/share any concrete thoughts, but in short: i love the channel
Great lesson as always! Thank you!
Thank you Dr Sledge for another wonderful academic teaching. And welcome to all the new Patreons it was great to see so many new people and subscribers.
Great stuff. Just in time for doing the washing up.
You and Dan Atrell are absolutely amazing and I find myself looking through your videos in awe and find inspiration to continue studies.
Just utterly fascinating! Thank you for this piece of our magical heritage! Once again you have out done yourself!
Another great one. Thank you ❤️
Another great lecture.
Another gem, thank you so much
What an outstanding lecture! Todah Rabah Dr. Sledge, keep up with the amazing work ✌🏻( greetings from Brazil)
Intriguing, new subscriber.
thankyou.... very cool info
Simply Brilliant, especially the production of spirit, something AC alluded to many times. The darkness full of light.
I learn so much from you! By far my favorite channel on UA-cam! Thank you so much for your teachings 🙏🏽. May I ask where can I find the actual angelic script written by Agrippa? Thank you once again!!!
"Hermetic Mugshots" - best line ever. :)
Thank your for this video, great job!
sir , please tell me when will you be making a video about the alchemical study of robert boyle and isaac newton ?
Much obliged Dr. Sledge. You really are a fountain of knowledge. Slowly moving through your content has connected an immense number of dots in my knowledge.
I've been wondering when I might run across the name Edgar Cayce. Upon hearing the views of Lazzarelli I thought it was time to ask. The information that came through him sounds remarkably similar and various 'readings' of his specifically named Hermes, though I can't recall in which context. I'd be curious to know whether you hold an opinion about him, as a source of information. He certainly has his critics but in that 'field'... who doesn't?
Keep up the great work.
Fascinating stuff, Doctor Sledge! I'm curious, will you be covering any if the mystical experiences and transcendent visions of Emanuel Swedenborg? I'd be very curious to hear your opinions and analysis of them.
Really interesting stuff!! I know you're not a fan of The Kybalion, but were there any other works prior to it that expounded on the concept of psychic or spiritual vibrations? That's pretty fundamental to western esotericism.
Not really, that's all really new thought / new age stuff.
It is definitely not hermetic despite its claims. I kind of like the book but it is obviously meant for the occult trends of its days and has little to do with the old hermetic works.
Hey what's the origin of the piano music clip you use for your intro? I find it haunting and I want to hear the whole piece.
Thank you
great video
thanks for the latin text link
will read it soon
good work on the channel
be safe, be happy, work hard
peace \m/
Another fascinating episode, thank you Dr Sledge! Can you give any background detail about the artwork at 23:00?
This channel feels like home by simply being 🥀🐝🐝 : .
I'm very glad I watched this again, and rewound and paused a bunch, so that I can appreciate the importance of this work. Now, if I could just learn Latin... 🤔
It really is a key text and a pity it's so hard to find!
Thanks for another fantastic video!
Admittedly, it's unrelated to Hermeticism, but have you talked about The Cloud of Unknowing on this channel before? It's more relevant to mysticism than magic, but I'd love to hear your analysis of it and (maybe?) how it fits into the larger picture of Christian mysticism
Yep I will probably get to it!
@@TheEsotericaChannel Awesome!
the book is on amazon for the low low price of one thousand dollars
Are you gonna take on the alchemical symbology in the lore of King Arthur? Or have you already...? Thanks for sharing!
Is there a link between Dattatreya and Hermes Trismegistus? Google search seems to think there is...but it has been wrong before...
I would love to get a copy of this hymm - would you be able to give me a publishing link? Daniel Morrell
Hello , Question to Dr.Sledge : Did you ever contacted a spirit or a "god" by using rituals or magic ? Just being curious.
Please do one (or more) on Giordano Bruno
For years I've been coming to that conclusion.
If I would have waited, it would have been easier just listening to you..lol
Hermy Tee aka Tristy Gee made me cackle! Don't understand why Renaissance era videos perform poorly in comparison, this is fascinating
I'm still searching for this book hoping for a human price...
Can you explain to me why the Kybalion is considered Sudo Hermetic? i'm very interested.
The Modern Hermeticist has a really good video about the Kybalion you may consider watching if you are still searching for opinions.
If you find any the old Hermetic texts commonly mentioned and compare them it becomes obvious that the Kybalion is littered with 19th century occult trends and meant to cash in on the hype. Even the name is fake greek as I understand it.
Although a debunking series with be satisfying to watch.
When will we get a video about the Kybalion by the way?
When I run out of actual historical hermetic texts ;)
@@TheEsotericaChannel hehehehe
Oof, that is some serioua criticism there
I'd like to know more about "Credgio" but can't find any sources, is there somewhere to read about this person?
Giovanni Mercurio da Correggio
That moment when you realize not paying attention in latin class all those years ago was a pretty bad idea.
Have u any lecture on Islamic philosophers like Ibn Sina and hermeticism?
How can one obtain a copy of Crater Hermetis?…
The book is now available on Amazon for A THOUSAND FREAKING DOLLARS
Hello, when is the next live stream? Thank you!
This Friday at 4pm Detroit time!
@@TheEsotericaChannel Thank you.
in LVX
The concept of a "localized god" like aspect within humans feels very similar to Hinduism.
@@newlin83 if I say Hinduism, you know what I'm talking about, if I say "the collected worship of local gods across India" which more closely represents the word it creates confusion. It's a colonialist label, but it is understood by most to represent that collection of vedic based beliefs. I strongly disagree that "Today these groups have lost power". I think they still have power, but it is more clandestine than it was in earlier periods.
@@newlin83 interesting I still see the tern used by millions of ordinary people and scholars...but I know nothing anyway
@@newlin83 you have so much to say perhaps you should start your own channel. I dont agree or disagree because there is quite alot to unpack there. Some interesting concepts, but not what I was here for.
So, there is no English translation of Lazzarelli ?
Did you watch till the end?
@@TheEsotericaChannel yeah, but I thought that was in Latin, doesn’t matter, the Amazon one is out of print, plus I was spelling it ludovico. I will be more diligent in the future, Doctor. Oh, and I don’t have $900. Most of the pdfs I found about Lazzarelli were in Italian. I can cuss in Italian, but that’s it. “Manache!”
I am watching this video as a mystic. I suspect the host is kabbalist, though not sure.
I want to make some points about mystics, esotericism and oracular nature of mystics.
An esoteric mystic is someone who understands the esoteric neccesity of mystics.
The used of the words arcane, magic, monad, etc tend to really define mystics in terms of things. For example magical words, magical numbers, magical, hidden secret knowledge, hidden links between legendary figures of the past.
But the thing is, I know other mystics, mystics seldomly discuss any of these things. They dont run out and join wiccan, pagan, or neo druid cults. Many of them are rather shy about discussing mysticism in public because they think something is wrong with their brain, and they are probably right. I believe there is something deeper, I just dont label it.
First off, Im not going to discuss my personal experiences and why I believe the way I do, not out of shyness but out of revelation. The closest analogy I can give is that one imagine oneself are walking down what you think is a public road, but is a private place were two lovers embrace, do you then reveal to everyone what you saw the lovers doing?. In the same way mystics tend to see those that have passed, they often stray into visions that are not meant for others. There is the assumption that the vision is of greater knowledge than the recipent, that these are divine revelations. Think of how many revelations in the hebrew bible are just wrong or misinformed. When a mystic has a unforced mystical experience that is a rather private thing, and unless the revelation is tell everyone you know (which almost never happens) people who are revealing their visions are either doing so out of vanity, delusions or more likely, now-a-days, public theatre (e.g Katt Kerr).
The second point concerning masonic secrets, numiscology, secret words, phrases or double entendre, etc. As insulting as this may sound, any attachment of mystical visions with preeixting myth, psuedoscience, logos, cosmogony (ancient or nascent), geographical places (e.g. the wailing wall, shrines were dead people appear, mountains in the southern sinai, the caba, a mountain shelter between three holy sites near kyoto) are just variations on idolatry. And i know the word idolatry has lost favor with academics, but with mysticism when you see people attaching to levels of heaven or hell, dharma, thrones on clounds surrounded by light, they are simply replacing a polished stone god on a sumerian ziggurat with a fetish of their subconscious. BTW, my father was in the masons, the secrets are not about the substance but about the oath of keeping. People who look for deeper meaning in esoteric ploys are as misguided as people who seek truth from palm readers.
What is the nature of mystic visions, are they waking dreams, are they miswiring in the brain, information screaming to get out of the mind?
I have visual manifestations, as I have tyramine sensitivity and if a stray even a little bit off my diet, i can be stepping off in a min-d-field of brain malfunction, that among other health problems, I can very much see were others are seeing certain types of visions (e,g. the depiction of Paul's vision in acts). A proper meditative stance can subdue the minor manifestations. I know others, particularly women, who have similar issues that appear to be more hormonal than diet. Similar types of hallucinations can be driven by dimethyl tryptamine, and other forms of tyramine. Tyramine sensitivity is simply an inadequate level of monoamine oxidase near important signalling pathways. There are a large number of chemicals either coincidentally encountered or purposefully taken that can generate these types of hallucinations.
I am not going to discuss good or bad meditation practices, but if the meditative practice is resulting in ecstatic visions that indistinguishable from a chemical induced hallucination then its like something not going right in the body (e.g. is naval staring good for the human bowel and viscera?)
When one scrapes all the mytic "props" off of mysticism one can separate mystics into two essential camps, those who rarely if ever have mystical experiences and those who more commonly have them outside of circumstance like bereavement hallucinations. Often there is a common feature, a relative, an old friend of the family, etc as the object of the vision. Typically mystical experience around those that have recently died, but they can concern those that are living. The peace were the vision occurs often has a structure (e.g. a broad open plain with a chasm separating a mystic goal on the other side). There may be substructure, buildings, churches, domes. In and around the structure may be people (usually familar faces of the past), inside might be generally regarded as heaven, hell, sheol. Within such structures there maybe structures of brightness and darkness, whiteness, redness (blood) and blackness. The mystic may associate with preexisting believes, like levels of heaven. The actual transition into the experience may take on religious meaning, like nervana.
These structures and embodiments in the visions are trapping of the human mind, they are almost always interpretations based on the lack of logical precedences. The minds desire to find agency. If the seekers focuses on these embodiments they are wandering to what has been described as profanity and delusions.
So basically I have described all the flaws of mysticism and why one has to be careful of articulate notions and sophistries associated with mysticism. And yet i am a mystic, my justifications for my sense of divinity are just that, mine. The body is the temple of the spirit, to respect ones body prepares the road, but to resist the urges of the ego prepares the traveler. Seek not heaven, it will betray the mind, nor hell as the body betrays the seeker. Rather seek only that which is offered and take nothing that is hidden. The treasure of the mystic realm are miniscule and fleeting in nature, except when they are not.
MC Trimmy
Creating thought forms to merge with egregores….that’s the ticket
Not me avoiding my homework by watching esoterica
Be fruitful and multiply - See Alchemical Multiplication.
🗡🌞🌹🌝🔱
Doesn't Maimonides mention a group of Moorish Hermetists? Spanish Moors don't count as European?
I haven't heard this - what's the reference?
@@TheEsotericaChannel I’m pretty sure I read it in the guide for the perplexed
Welcome to Esoterica, where we try to grasp a fish with one hand.
...metaphorically
@@TheEsotericaChannel Indeed, and by reference , archaeo-graphologically.