Steak Experiments - Cast Iron vs Carbon Steel Skillets

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  • Опубліковано 26 кві 2024
  • Can a carbon steel skillet sear a steak as well as cast iron? That's what we're going to find out. Carbon steel is far lighter than cast iron but it's supposed to have the similar thermal properties to cast iron but it is also supposed to heat-up more evenly. We're going to dive in and find out.
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  • @BBQandBottles
    @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +21

    This is the 21st video in our Steak Experiment series that we've been working on over the last year and a half. If you want to watch any of the other videos in the series, here's a link to the complete playlist. ua-cam.com/play/PLA8Sgnre4XTUBNybUoykMXUD0HffOCp0O.html

    • @jimburns1927
      @jimburns1927 3 роки тому +1

      BBQ and Bottles Thank you 🙏 I’ve been watching quite a few of your videos! You are always doing a wonderful job! Nothing but respect!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      Appreciate the support Jim 👊👊

    • @kimberly1567
      @kimberly1567 Рік тому

      When comparing durability, cast iron is brittle and can be broken. I have broken a side off of two old skillets when dropped. Carbon stieel's are like a boat anchor or anvil. Indestructible . BTW, my old fave Wagner #9 i broke when dropped, i sanded the rough area on broken side and have been using as a griddle for 10 yr
      I prefer the lighter weight, quicker reaction times (up and down) and flared sidewalls of the carbon steel. I still have all of my CI but now find I only reach for CI when baking cornbread

    • @TheKraken2019
      @TheKraken2019 Місяць тому

      @@BBQandBottleswhere did you get the custom carbon steel skillet? The link won’t load and says pepperjamnetwork. They don’t sell skillets.

  • @E3lx
    @E3lx Рік тому +16

    Came for the pan comparison, stayed for the steak tutorial! Looks delicious

  • @personontheinternet2164
    @personontheinternet2164 2 роки тому +9

    This is my first time on this channel. This was an amazing watch. Your calm and informative energy really kept me engaged throughout.

  • @GeorgeNadaYT
    @GeorgeNadaYT 3 роки тому +65

    You should wear an apron. You're gonna get grease over that nice sweater

  • @paulpark4111
    @paulpark4111 3 роки тому +270

    You have to pull the steaks way before 128F if you're trying to target a medium-rare. Also, you need to take into account the effect closing the grill cover has on your cooking. The gray-bands on your steaks are way too thick and if you sent those out as medium-rare in a real restaurant, you'd re-firing two steaks.

    • @jasonthompson3964
      @jasonthompson3964 3 роки тому +12

      Agreed. Needs more heat IMO.

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 3 роки тому +19

      Going to tell him how to stack the briquettes next?

    • @chefscottharris
      @chefscottharris 3 роки тому +17

      @@Bubbles99718 well I didn’t want to say anything but...

    • @dazekiel
      @dazekiel 3 роки тому +20

      Spot on. That was not medium rare. That said, you cook to your preference regardless of method, it is up to you to adapt based on your equipment and desire. The steaks looked tasty and were far from ruined and the information was useful. I might have to look for a carbon steel pan.

    • @bryanr8897
      @bryanr8897 3 роки тому +18

      To be fair, most restaurants don't sear their steaks with a skillet. They put them right under a 600F broiler.

  • @ejnaygfantzcg
    @ejnaygfantzcg 3 роки тому +3

    Dude it's 2:30 AM and my fridge is empty, I am trying to distract myself by watching a knife video and you do this.
    You MONSTER!

  • @kerimalpkarahan5211
    @kerimalpkarahan5211 3 роки тому +81

    Great video but I think you need to recalibrate your thermometer

    • @prenticefincannon9239
      @prenticefincannon9239 3 роки тому +16

      I agree, 127 with that level of banding is suspect. Recalibration of thermometer or maybe closing the lid with pan cooking is what did it. Idk, either way a normal burner setup would probably provide a better comparison of the pans. BUT, I do like the idea of using the grill to preheat a pan instead of heating up your house with the oven in the summer if you want your steak butter basted. But firing up the grill to cook steaks to not grill the steaks seems wrong too haha

    • @SuperSteelSteve
      @SuperSteelSteve 3 роки тому +6

      @@prenticefincannon9239 I've been cooking professionally for 17 years... it was 100% him closing the cover.
      And his thermometer is off lol

    • @colevincent5800
      @colevincent5800 3 роки тому +4

      It was less likely the thermal pro and more likely carryover, I cook to 120F and with a strong sear carryover can lead it to 135

    • @riseagan
      @riseagan 3 роки тому

      @@prenticefincannon9239 You can have zoned heating if you're pan cooking on a grill. have one side on high for direct heat to sear, and the other side of the grill set lower. sear on the hot side, and then put the pan on the pan on the "cool side" with the lid closed to bake. It turns it into more of an oven environment to finish.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому

      Disageee.

  • @yllib2012
    @yllib2012 2 роки тому +8

    The carbon steel skillet in the video is by Smithy. All are hand hammered, pre-seasoned and beautiful. A bit expensive but you are buying functional art.

  • @jernigan007
    @jernigan007 3 роки тому +60

    Ahh that' s why Asian restaurants use carbon steel pans, hot and fast. Nice comparison. I'll keep to my cast iron :)

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      thanks CJ!

    • @Briggie
      @Briggie 3 роки тому +10

      Most restaurants in general use carbon steel.

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 3 роки тому +5

      @@Briggie
      They are more corrosion resistant. I noticed in Japan they use stainless flat tops.
      Edit: *Commercial Grade* carbon steel pans contain enough chromium (~6%) to help prevent rust. To be classified as "stainless" it has to be 10%+ chromium.

    • @Joetrout
      @Joetrout 2 роки тому

      @@Briggie alot have changed over to carbon steel

    • @cypresspeter2008
      @cypresspeter2008 2 роки тому

      What Asian restaurants (name drop)? Lightness is convenient and practical.

  • @Nanogrip
    @Nanogrip 3 роки тому +39

    I have both cast iron and carbon steel pans that I'd use alternately for cooking, I love them both! Thanks to your video, I'll be searing the fat cap first, great advice. I also deeply score my fat caps so they melt a lot more while cooking, I imagine searing them first will make them even better!

    • @DavyMcKay
      @DavyMcKay 2 роки тому +7

      And it minimises the potential for the steak to curl.

    • @RocketJ209
      @RocketJ209 Рік тому +3

      I gotta try scoring the fat cap! I think you might have just elevated my perfect steak! Lol thanks!!

    • @robertjason6885
      @robertjason6885 Рік тому +1

      Adds flavor to the cook as well. I agree with a poster that the top should remain open… a bit of steaming going on. Love the clarified butter suggestion. I use avocado oil as well. Works great with everything.

  • @yeelee2076
    @yeelee2076 3 роки тому +2

    loving how to talk about both pans

  • @RocketJ209
    @RocketJ209 Рік тому +4

    The clarified butter is interesting although with my method I think the avocado oil stabilizes the butter so it doesn't burn. I cook over gas on cast iron and pull at 120 for a med rare every time.
    My method. Pat NY steaks dry so you get a good sear without steaming! Let sit out at least an hr to get to room temp. Add a generous amount of Coarse salt to each side and pat into meat. Add fresh ground black pepper and pat into meat just before cooking. Sear hot medium high heat (About 450 to 500) in avocado oil about 2 minutes each side. I like to stand on steaks on side to sear the fat cap first. While searing the last edge turn heat down to medium and let temp come down to about 400. Add in fresh lightly crushed garlic cloves, thyme and butter. Lay steaks down baste in butter, garlic, & thyme till about 120. Remove and place in foil. Spoon some of the butter into steaks and add in cooked garlic cloves and thyme sprigs and wrap up. Rest 10 minutes. Best steak ever!
    2 NY steaks (1.5 to 2 inch thick)
    Coarse ground salt
    Fresh ground black pepper
    2 or 3 tbsp avocado oil
    Prep and ready in small container to easily add aromatics
    6 to 8 Fresh garlic cloves (lightly smashed)
    Small Bunch of fresh thyme sprigs
    About 1/2 to 3/4 stick butter

  • @clutchbleach2057
    @clutchbleach2057 3 роки тому +2

    That is a gorgeous chef knife man! Good content :) and just my 2 cents I have always used the whole garlic after being peeled and never have tasted a end or anything, just food for thought.

  • @Drmikekuna
    @Drmikekuna 2 роки тому

    So informative! I really felt like I learned something when I watched your video. Thanks.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  2 роки тому

      Thanks Mike. Appreciate the kind words.

  • @melonhead49
    @melonhead49 2 роки тому

    Dude. This is one of the top steak videos ever

  • @turbotimthree
    @turbotimthree 3 роки тому +4

    I love diver style watches and was curious what kind of watch you are wearing in this video. Thanks

  • @atta1798
    @atta1798 3 роки тому +2

    You know how to enjoy life!!! Beautiful~~!! Great taste!!!

  • @bitmasterb
    @bitmasterb 3 роки тому +4

    First I have to say I absolutely love your videos. I've learned a ton and can't wait to make some ribeyes using your methods. I've tried steaks in cast iron on my gasser a few times but its been inconsistent results. Second - question...early videos you simply added regular butter to the pan to baste after turning....have you switched to clarified butter permanently?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +5

      Great question Brian and thanks for the kind words too. Yeah, I have switched over to clarified butter because I love searing steaks at high heat with cast iron and in a few of my earlier videos I was burning the butter. I also learned how to make it at home and it’s really easy and WAY cheaper than buying it off Amazon
      Ribeyes are coming soon! Just editing a video up right now as a matter of fact.

    • @bitmasterb
      @bitmasterb 3 роки тому +1

      @@BBQandBottles good to know! I was wondering if you might say something like that. Great point about the costs - very true. If you do buy it again take a look at Trader Joe's. I haven't bought it there in a long time but from what I remember it was WAY cheaper than anywhere else. I also noticed this video didn't have the dark crust of your other videos but seemed the temp was a little lower, maybe that was why. Look forward to your ribeye video!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, this wasn’t our best crust 😉. Thanks for the tip on Trader Joes - I’ll check ‘em out.

  • @Bubbles99718
    @Bubbles99718 3 роки тому +6

    Another title could be 30$ cast iron vs 275$ carbon steel skillets.

    • @germangamekiller
      @germangamekiller 3 роки тому +1

      A good carbon steel skillet doesnt need to be expensive. Tbh, the one I use, has been used as a decorative thingy in someones garden. I asked if I could have it, deep cleaned it once, reseasoned it, and boom, best pan I ever owned.

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 3 роки тому +1

      @@germangamekiller The pt is he didn't. My statement stands

    • @atomicmuffins1328
      @atomicmuffins1328 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed. Price should drive anyones purchase, if you shouldn’t afford it then don’t. I was tired of buying non stick and other pans that only seemed to last a year or two. Got the same lodge he used in the video and it’s been going strong for ten years. Now that I’m out of college and making big boy money, maybe I’ll treat myself on one of these expensive smithy products. 30$ cast iron is great because anyone can afford it, and like you point out-the finished product is indiscernible. Smithy is more of a bragging right and a buy just because one can.

    • @ProfessorIgor
      @ProfessorIgor Рік тому

      I have a $40 steelie from Ikea and a 100yr old Wagner Ware cast iron. I love them both, but I prefer the steelie for the fact that I can change the temp in it more quickly, and it's more evenly distributed than the iron. But it's just nit-picking really...

  • @jwsnotruth7106
    @jwsnotruth7106 3 роки тому +1

    good thing you are wearing your ring i was getting excited !

  • @arghidontknow
    @arghidontknow 2 роки тому +1

    I really liked your sweater! Looks cozy.

  • @wordserf3047
    @wordserf3047 3 роки тому +1

    Have you tried Field brand cast iron pans? They are pounds lighter than traditional and have a smooth cooking surface

  • @simplemanduke7128
    @simplemanduke7128 3 роки тому

    Great video Sir. And magnificent sweater selection!!

  • @BigSexysHouse
    @BigSexysHouse 3 роки тому +6

    You can’t just call the sliver of red in the center medium rare and the rest is something else. How do you like the Smithey carbon pan after using it more?

    • @torfinnjohnsrud793
      @torfinnjohnsrud793 2 роки тому +2

      Yea, the carbon steel was definitely in the well done category and the cast iron had maybe a toehold in the medium-well category. But I think these pans are generally considered for different purposes so it doesn't reflect poorly on either one, just the operator

  • @kimberlindy
    @kimberlindy Рік тому

    I learned more from this one video than the 25 videos I watched before this one. Incidentally, I have the same Weber grill, Thermoworks instant thermometer, and also use an infrared thermometer to see what the temperature is of my pan before adding oil.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  Рік тому

      Great setup!! Thanks for the kind words too.

  • @jethead
    @jethead 3 роки тому +1

    Haven't watched the video yet, but from just the opening screen, I find myself WAY more interested in the knife than the steak cooking experiment....

  • @thoughtswordactionbeta6959
    @thoughtswordactionbeta6959 Рік тому +2

    I like the crust on the cast iron a little better. Another thing I thought of is the carbon steel is more done in the middle with almost the same crust, I think that would be a benefit to the cast iron as well.

  • @JP-kg6wn
    @JP-kg6wn 2 роки тому

    Eye opener, thank you much.

  • @owenconnolly3041
    @owenconnolly3041 3 роки тому +2

    Great video as always, very informative ! I am definitely going to get one of these pans. Probably have to get the cheaper due to enconomics etc. Please do a video comparing one of these to a French Traditional Copper Pan !! Might be fun !! And French CHefs are supposedly among the Best so why are they always using Copper and not Cast Iron !! Maybe cause its lighter ! i don't know ! hence the REquest !!! But if not possible thanks anyways and keep making these great instructional vids !! Never tried the GArlic, Ghee and Rosemary for Basting and flavor 1! Will try this in the next few days for sure !! THanks Mate !!!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      Good suggestion. They use copper because it’s a great conductor of heat so the pans heat up very evenly. We should give it a shot. I’ll see if I can find one somewhere.

  • @BantheDan
    @BantheDan 3 роки тому +4

    If it cooks faster though you will have to be more precise with your timings. If it takes a little longer it should be easier to get to the right cooked-ness. However, perhaps the quicker cooking time will make less grey bits around the edges and be more consistent throughout like a reverse sear, or maybe it'll worse, hmmm. Interesting.

  • @ILoveMyS5
    @ILoveMyS5 3 роки тому +26

    The steaks look good for medium well steaks. I know you wanted med-rare, but they looked good man.

    • @eJunkee
      @eJunkee 3 роки тому +2

      Yes definitely medium-well. Way to much grey cooked area for medium rare. Center is also not pink enough.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому +2

      Disagree. Perfection.

  • @vaughnblaylock6069
    @vaughnblaylock6069 Рік тому +2

    This is a great video. I almost always cook a prime NY Strip that's around 2" thick, and I always sear the fat cap and edges for 120 seconds on their edges in a cast iron skillet, but I'm getting ready I think to switch to carbon steel. I find that if you start with a 2" thick steak, they will stand on their edge on their own.
    On the cook itself, I would use a higher heat to start, which would give you a better crust at the end. You can always drop the heat if you need the butter, but I always cook my steaks dry, because the fat cap is going to render down and make its own fat in the pan.
    Like the garlic, I smashed your like button. ;)

    • @j.a.1785
      @j.a.1785 11 місяців тому +1

      Kansas City strip

  • @ranger2316
    @ranger2316 3 роки тому +5

    I wouldn't be ashamed to serve either one. They look fine!

  • @1ronhall
    @1ronhall 3 роки тому

    Nice video ...... I’m always seeking quality cooking tips and techniques to achieve the perfect steak!!

  • @jeromedenis4754
    @jeromedenis4754 3 роки тому +2

    Too well done guy.

  • @richmonroe2930
    @richmonroe2930 9 місяців тому

    Can you use the same seasoning on both pans carbon, steel and cast-iron? If not why?

  • @ianbrown4242
    @ianbrown4242 9 місяців тому

    Came for the pan comparison, stayed for the outrageous sweater
    .

  • @1ronhall
    @1ronhall 3 роки тому +1

    Winner, winner and I’m now a subscriber

  • @rickeycarter
    @rickeycarter 3 роки тому +4

    I just made some skirt steak in my smithey carbon steel pan and it turned out great. My cast iron has decades of seasoning. The carbon steel seasoning will need work. I’m looking forward to that work.

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 роки тому

      After some time now with your carbon steel any recommendations on which one is a better buy, carbon steel or cast iron? Do you actually need both in your kitchen or can one be enough?

    • @rickeycarter
      @rickeycarter 2 роки тому

      @@paradigmshift7541 I use both daily. My smithey carbon steel is now as black as coal and is great to use. I tend to make quesadillas, arepas, grilled cheese and small volumes of meat in the carbon steel. I use my larger cast iron when i need more space. Both cook very similarly so for me it is size.

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 роки тому

      @@rickeycarter because i'm a total beginner at cooking and unsure, do you think it would be accurate to say cast iron is better to cook steaks medium rare? in this video the cast iron gave a little bit better crust/brown searing, but also the inside was more rare. carbon steel got great searing, but a smidge less than the cast iron, and it seemed to cook the steak to medium/medium well.

    • @rickeycarter
      @rickeycarter 2 роки тому

      @@paradigmshift7541 the best way to cook a steak is, in my opinion, is reverse sear. The bulk of the cooking is low temp in an oven and them seared at high heat (any steel pan) for the crust and color. Carbon steel does great and heats a little faster than cast iron. Both are great. Get s cheap lodge pan and a cheap carbon steel pan and experiment. They pans will cost less than good steaks

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 роки тому

      @@rickeycarter ahhhh i see, that was very enlightening and helpful. I guess my question was a bit silly as it was on the basis that pan fry was the only method considered. i was totally oblivious that if other cooking methods are used, i'd only be using the skillets to quickly sear at the end. thanks for the tips rickey

  • @anthonyv3732
    @anthonyv3732 3 роки тому +4

    Another great job! You rock everything brutha!
    … Maybe pull the steaks at 120 degrees... likely the thinner grass fed beef… I also find dry-brined steaks to cook faster… See how 120 turns out or get thicker steaks... I find 1.5”-1.75” thickness way more forgiving...thanks again man - Show your videos to all my family and friends

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching and spreading the word Anthony. 👍👍

    • @jeffreylam3584
      @jeffreylam3584 3 роки тому

      Agree! And there is residual cooking so the temp will increase 3-5 degrees after pulling off the grill.

    • @ElDuardo01
      @ElDuardo01 3 роки тому

      I dont understand that. How can it get even hotter when its off the grill? Doesnt make sense thermodinamicaly. Maybe im too close minded as a chemistry student 😂

    • @p.jeffreyungar4908
      @p.jeffreyungar4908 3 роки тому +1

      @@ElDuardo01 The temperature close to the surface of the meat is considerably higher than the goal. It will even out as it rests, and the middle will rise higher as the surfaces cool. Eventually the whole steak will cool down, of course. Don't forget your physics classes 😉

  • @kinglear5952
    @kinglear5952 2 роки тому +1

    Gret video: thank you for doing it. How should I adjust cooking times relative to the size and weight of a steak?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  2 роки тому +2

      My number one recommendation is to cook to temp not time. If you want medium rare, pull at 128F.

    • @kinglear5952
      @kinglear5952 2 роки тому

      Dear BBQ and Bottles, What a gentleman you are to reply that quickly. So, to be clear, does that mean to stop cooking once it reaches the exact temperature?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  2 роки тому +1

      Exactly! Whenever you’re grilling or searing something, search online to find the internal temp that maps to your desired doneness.

    • @kinglear5952
      @kinglear5952 2 роки тому

      @@BBQandBottles Well I never knew that. I will tell you how I get on. I could never make sense of time guides as the time seemed to depend on the thickness of the steak.
      Again thank you from Brighton, UK.

  • @ericschmidt3560
    @ericschmidt3560 3 роки тому +1

    My mouth is watering 🤤

  • @benalcott8427
    @benalcott8427 Рік тому

    What is the carbon steel pan that you are using it is beautiful would love to get one

  • @xrppatriot3492
    @xrppatriot3492 3 роки тому

    WooHoo, going to try this Saturday..........New Subscriber here. Thanks!

  • @justme-sv5vf
    @justme-sv5vf 3 роки тому

    I saw your other video, and this showed up. You kept your word on the sweater😎
    Should you do the 48 hour refrigerator seasoning for filets as well? And I will get some avocado oil....I only use my Griswold cast iron, but I use the oven in the house.... raise temp to high on top and let the skillets get really hot .... then sear 3 minutes each side... then in the oven that's been preheated to 500.....I keep mine in the oven about 11-12 minutes and that ends up being about medium well

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому

      Right on! Thanks for watching. I’d try the 48 hour dry brine with filets too - no reason that shouldn’t work.

  • @alkalk8938
    @alkalk8938 2 роки тому +1

    Cast iron and carbon steel are different tools, asking which is better is like asking which is better between a truck and a sports car. Cast pans are good for use on moderate power burners where they can 'store' a bunch of energy and give you a good sear. Carbon steel is great if you have a high power burner, a smoke hood or outdoors, you'll be hot fast. This was pan frying, not searing. Searing is only for a few minutes, the cooking to get the desired temp should be done either before or after depending on which technique you prefer

  • @Flockingtheherd
    @Flockingtheherd 3 роки тому +1

    I liked the test you did however I felt the explanation was far too short for why carbon steel was better. Which of the two stakes did you find to taste better? Did the cast iron render down a little bit more of the fat due to it cooking slightly slower?

    • @cameronbrown8757
      @cameronbrown8757 Рік тому +2

      Agreed. The crust certainly looked more consistent and darker on the cast iron. I was surprised to see carbon steel walk away with the win. Seemed like the decision was made on light-weight and not actually the cook/sear capabilities of the pan. If you were going to base it on the weight, why even do the sear test?

    • @keithtauber4153
      @keithtauber4153 9 місяців тому +1

      @@cameronbrown8757 Agree. Cast iron is better.

  • @2cartalkers
    @2cartalkers 2 роки тому

    What brand of carbon steel pan was used in this experiment? I am in need of a carbon steel pan and I like that handle.

  • @dustinirwin1
    @dustinirwin1 2 роки тому +4

    I don't think either of these was seared enough. I'd flip every 60 seconds until they have a more consistent crisp across the majority of the surface.

  • @jwestrik9308
    @jwestrik9308 2 роки тому +1

    I have both, as well as stainless 7 ply and copper. But the Carbon steel pan I have (De Buyer) on induction and electric hobs was loosing its flatness , e.g. centre down where all the oil was pooling. I had to bash the centre up with a wooden log so when it got to a cooking temperature it changed to be exactly flat. But heating it even more would again spin it on the stove. A cast iron pan is more likely to stay flat. On gas it is less noticeable.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 Рік тому

      I cannot stand pans that do that, hate it. I can live with the uneven cooking that you can get with cast iron, but if a pan stays flat, that's the biggest bonus for me and cast iron does that...as far as affordability goes.

  • @Jin_Jon
    @Jin_Jon Рік тому +1

    The carbon steel heats up faster and cools quicker. That's why they make woks with carbon steel. Cast iron takes longer to heat up, but it retains its heat longer.

  • @jimburns1927
    @jimburns1927 3 роки тому +37

    Great Job 👍 I’ve been a chef over thirty years and always love using carbon steel pans! Just takes getting used to the faster heat reactions both gets hot faster and cools down quickly! Needs much less energy than Cast iron! Both types of pans are awesome Cookers!

    • @Freeflier1978
      @Freeflier1978 3 роки тому +3

      I have a matfer carbon steel pan and love it

    • @kodybecker89
      @kodybecker89 2 роки тому

      I have some lodge cast irons and wanted to invest in some field quality cast iron pans because i have recently used one and there is a big difference in quality between lodge and field that was quickly realized and i have used cast iron my entire life but now seeing more and more about carbon steel im not sure what to do in your chef’s opinion is there a reason to have both or would it be better to opt one for the other ??

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 Рік тому

      @@kodybecker89 I think the iron skillet in the video is a Field Skillet. I have one and love it. So much smoother than a Lodge.

  • @M1911jln
    @M1911jln 3 роки тому +14

    Looking at the color profile of those steaks confirms to me why I cook steak sous vide.

    • @masoncochran9472
      @masoncochran9472 2 роки тому

      His thermometer wasn’t calibrated properly and the surrounding air was too hot

  • @wemcal
    @wemcal 3 роки тому +2

    Two cousin skills going at each other... great video... carbon steel only for its light weight... although I’m a Castiron man

  • @ahkeen
    @ahkeen 3 роки тому

    Do you leave the lid close while it’s searing for 4 min?

  • @leebroderickhyunji246
    @leebroderickhyunji246 3 роки тому

    Beautiful!

  • @DeweyKiloBrown
    @DeweyKiloBrown 2 місяці тому

    where can I find this wonderful fine carbon steel pan ? I feel I reeky need this one to my collection ! buy the way awesome testings !

  • @HughRogers609
    @HughRogers609 3 роки тому +3

    I think it cooked quicker cos you did it with the hood down. You're adding indirect heat from the BBQ as well as direct from the pans.

    • @mandolinman2006
      @mandolinman2006 3 роки тому

      The comment about cooking quicker being part of the material used has nothing to do with the hood being down. Both skillets should have cooked the steak a the same time. However, the steel cooked it quicker.

  • @Hotsaucedeluxe
    @Hotsaucedeluxe 3 роки тому

    Do you think you would've gotten better results from a fancier carbon steel pan? I've been looking at Mauviel and De Buyer pans.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      I’m not sure it gets any fancier than the Smithey Farmhouse Skillet. Check it out - it’s $350.

    • @FurleyGhost
      @FurleyGhost 3 роки тому

      LOL!

    • @ytreece
      @ytreece 3 роки тому

      I got my carbon steel pan from Walmart in a moment of need for a skillet I could use on a campfire that I could also throw in my carryon to return home. It has been such a good pan, I never bothered to get another one. I’m not one to skimp on cookware either. It’s a damn good pan though 😂.

  • @theoriginalbullebear3721
    @theoriginalbullebear3721 2 роки тому

    Nice sweater bro... Bravo👏👏.👏👏.

  • @brianharder7714
    @brianharder7714 3 роки тому

    Just got a d seasoned a Misen 12 inch carbon steel pan. Steak tomorrow. I find that doing an initial sear for a couple of minutes and then pulling it off for a 5 minute rest and then going back in for the garlic and butter basting for another 90 seconds to 2 minutes a side avoids those grey bands completely.

  • @lawrencegoodstein6539
    @lawrencegoodstein6539 3 роки тому

    Can you do a comparison between a nonstick ceramic pan versus cast iron

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому

      Already done! - ua-cam.com/video/b4t6tffWbys/v-deo.html

  • @paradigmshift7541
    @paradigmshift7541 2 роки тому

    Based on this test, and based on further use and experience on the carbon steel skillet, do you have any preference for one over the other? Do you even need both cast iron and carbon steel in your kitchen anymore, or can all cooking be done on the carbon steel?

    • @thebigmann81
      @thebigmann81 Рік тому

      Carbon for steaks and chops. Cast iron for chicken 😋😋

  • @robtierney5653
    @robtierney5653 3 роки тому

    Usually when you sear a steak, you use Salt N. Pepper and a surface temp of 500 to create a shell entrapping the juices right?

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому

      Your over thinking it. Which killed it.

  • @IcybernateCaptCliff
    @IcybernateCaptCliff 3 роки тому +23

    Put coarse salt on the fat caps the day before cooking to draw out water, makes the fat crisper

    • @mumble97
      @mumble97 3 роки тому

      why coarse does that work better than not coarse

    • @yalkn2073
      @yalkn2073 3 роки тому

      @@mumble97 personal preference

    • @EqualsDeath
      @EqualsDeath 3 роки тому

      You NEVER put salt on the fat

    • @Aaronsm83
      @Aaronsm83 2 роки тому

      It’s an interesting idea, but would that really work? I know that when dry brining, salt draws out water, then forms a brine. Some water in the brine does evaporate in a fridge, but I believe that once salt and water migrate back into the meat it reduces water loss from evaporation during cooking. And dry brined meat tends to remain moister, because the water-conserving effect outweighs the evaporation in the fridge in most cases. So why would this work?

  • @carlw180
    @carlw180 3 роки тому +1

    Try sous vide. Perfect every time! I did enjoy the video. I will try avocado oil next time I sear a steak.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому

      Surprised people have not realized Avocado oil is the best/affordable option without olive over flavoring. I am glad you are awake! Now the surge in price of said oil. 🙄

  • @filosofodemierda
    @filosofodemierda 3 роки тому +2

    You could also used infused ghee with garlic and rosemary although I guess it wouldn't have the same flavor.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому

      Too specific. Beef Tallow is a better option.

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 Рік тому +2

    I have both cast iron and carbon steel skillets and I can't tell the difference in the way they cook.

  • @twistedtwitt
    @twistedtwitt 3 роки тому +2

    I do not believe salt permeates all the way through a steak. Good video and good information. thanks

    • @omniryx1
      @omniryx1 2 роки тому

      You are correct, it does not, at least to any appreciable depth. The overnight advantage is that the exteriors dry nicely, not that the steak is salted through and through.

  • @richardleveille6240
    @richardleveille6240 3 роки тому +3

    Grass fed beef cooks quicker than grain fed. Please start pulling your steaks at 115. Love the channel my man!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Richard - appreciate the support 👍👍

    • @Chuckles4200
      @Chuckles4200 3 роки тому +1

      At 115 it will still be walking! Haha

  • @RobFishbein-ju2yk
    @RobFishbein-ju2yk Рік тому

    Great test. Wish I was there to taste. Cheers.

  • @gwine9087
    @gwine9087 Рік тому +2

    Nice, but I would expect good results from a $300 carbon steel pan.

  • @erikvaldur3334
    @erikvaldur3334 3 роки тому +3

    I'll have to look into carbon steel pans. I've never used one. I do love cast iron. I feel it should be outlawed to cook bacon in anything other than cast iron. I like my bacon crispy and cast iron just makes it heavenly. I want to try carbon steel with many things now.
    Thanx for the video.

    • @twoblink
      @twoblink 3 роки тому +3

      I've moved to pretty much exclusively carbon steel for the last 6 years; so much so we've sold all but 3 of our cast iron pans. If you buy one; go with De Buyer; I've purchased quite a few and they all sucked compared to Debuyer.

    • @erikvaldur3334
      @erikvaldur3334 3 роки тому

      @@twoblink thanks for the input. I'll definitely look into them.

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 роки тому

      @@twoblink so it seems like carbon steel is your go to now, is there any reason at all to keep cast iron ones around? are there some specific foods/recipes that specifically call for cast iron? if i'm fresh out of school with zero pans, should i get both carbon steel and a cast iron skillet?

    • @twoblink
      @twoblink 2 роки тому

      @@paradigmshift7541 I actually gave away my large cast irons, I keep them around mainly for baking corn bread or any time my dishes need to go into the oven for a long time.
      I've purchased other carbon steel and they've all ended up curling on me except De Beyer. That's what I recommend. 1 skillet to do it all. Slightly expensive but my 9" is going on year 12, and still amazing.

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 роки тому

      @@twoblink i really appreciate your thoughts on this, as i have no cooking skills yet, and it's reassuring to hear from someone with hands on experience. thanks albert!

  • @omegaranch6579
    @omegaranch6579 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for pointing me to this video. In my pull out drawer under my cook-top I have 2 Matfer Bourgeat carbon steel skillets and two cast iron skillets - one a gorgeous 100+ year old Puritan. I love them all and find that the wall construction is the differnentiator - if I'm cooking a one pan meal (which I am wont to do) I go with the cast iron. Whereas the carbon steel side lend themselves to flipping or mixing ingredients in the pan over the stove.Two nights ago though I used the Puritan to cook two rib eyes, starting on the stove and finishing to temperature in the oven. I use a Thermoworks Dot to monitor temperature while cooking . Thank you for the video!

  • @candywong4697
    @candywong4697 Рік тому

    thanks for your sharing and I come from Hong Kong

  • @matts1089
    @matts1089 Рік тому

    Looks like you’re using a thermopen? I have one and have been let down it isn’t nearly as accurate as I was hoping for. I pull at 120 and it comes out medium well. I went back to just using my instinct and I always get a perfect medium rare. I appreciate the video though I’ve been giving some thought to investing in some Smithey pans. They are beautiful!

    • @mikegu2527
      @mikegu2527 6 місяців тому

      Poke the probe thru the side for a more accurate reading of the center temp

  • @DholIsLife
    @DholIsLife 3 роки тому +3

    The Shape of the Carbon Steel also is affecting your sear, it doesn't look completely flat. Great video though!

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому +1

      The shape of your head does not process correctly. These were perfecr.

    • @vesselofmercy6988
      @vesselofmercy6988 2 роки тому

      @@wiseowl1580 Nah, the gray band was massive. Charcoal grill searing at a much higher temp would help that a lot. Fairly thick steak, so a reverse sear would be great.

  • @cameronhedges5199
    @cameronhedges5199 3 роки тому

    Have you tried the butter aging method?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      Not yet. Maybe once I get a fridge that I can dedicate to aging my beef

  • @oak7325
    @oak7325 2 роки тому

    Can you do a video on solid sliver pan vs silver lined copper pan please

  • @Jasmine-rf3zc
    @Jasmine-rf3zc 2 роки тому

    Can you tell me what is best size for steak?

  • @timivers8823
    @timivers8823 2 роки тому

    Nice carbon pan! And Rolex, I've got the gold and stainless band blue face

  • @victorthai250
    @victorthai250 2 роки тому

    thats a beautiful carbon steel pan where did you get it? link isnt working

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  2 роки тому

      I just tried it and it worked for me. Give it another shot. It’s the Smithey Farmhouse skillet.

  • @PursuingHeaven
    @PursuingHeaven Рік тому

    I know how to good a decent steak but you gave me some great tips I will try. I love my cast iron for steak and my stainless steal for fish. I am planning on buying a a carbon steel one soon just to see what I am missing.

    • @keithtauber4153
      @keithtauber4153 9 місяців тому

      I doubt you are missing a thing. Cast iron is as good as it gets.

  • @7106jazz
    @7106jazz 3 роки тому +3

    As One Gets Older That Cast Iron Pan Just Keeps Getting Heavier.LOL

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      I hear ya. Carbon steel is a great alternative.

  • @lkeve
    @lkeve 3 роки тому

    I love your command of English sir. Also. Nice vest. How do you keep it clean while you cook? Are you Canadian?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +2

      Steaks aren’t too messy. If we’re doing a messier cook, then we just wear an apron.

  • @octavio3839
    @octavio3839 3 роки тому +3

    i like my steaks very rare. a hard sear. and still moving lol. but man i love your videos. keep up the good work ;) i would donate if i wasnt out of work right now :) but i will in the future

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the kind words my man. Please keep your money - just supporting our channel by watching our videos is more than we could ask for👍. Best of luck finding work.

    • @stefane.r.r.6032
      @stefane.r.r.6032 3 роки тому

      Ne careful with infected Toxo meats.

  • @jimtalor7971
    @jimtalor7971 2 роки тому

    I got both pans. Always wondered which one will do the best but your test is flawed....
    Only one judge, there should be at least one more, like me and I would have brought the beer!!!
    Nice video!

  • @bigshow6200
    @bigshow6200 2 роки тому

    Do you by any chance work for Invista

  • @car24dude
    @car24dude 3 роки тому +1

    Dang, I just had my iPad replaced, I smashed the like button and crushed, cracked, destroyed my iPad. No insurance will replace my iPad.

  • @raymondeldridge2911
    @raymondeldridge2911 3 роки тому

    Both steaks 🥩 looked delicious 😋

  • @tulekahju
    @tulekahju 2 роки тому +1

    Just a little tip if you're using a meat thermometer to cook steak; take it out -10f of your steak preference. The residual heat when it rest will settle spot on to your ideal steak then.

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 Рік тому +1

      So are you saying for med rare it would be best to take the steaks off at 118º ?

    • @tulekahju
      @tulekahju Рік тому +1

      @@davidhunternyc1 Well, if your goal is 128F then yes take it off the heat at 118F, but medium-rare is clocked at 130-135F; at least that is what I've been told. Either way taking it off the heat ≈ -10F before your goal temperature will typically get you where you want it once it's done resting.

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 Рік тому

      @@tulekahju My guess is why there was so much grey in these steaks was that the pans weren't hot enough before he put the steaks on? They slow cooked too much before they got a sear?

    • @tulekahju
      @tulekahju Рік тому

      @@davidhunternyc1 Im not entirely sure since its been a while since I watched the video, and Im not entirely inclined to rewatch it. I mainly just recall that he took them off too soon for his desired end temperature; hence the original comment.
      What I may say as someone who cooks with CI I tend to preheat my CI for 10 minutes, but if Im going for a high temperature like what steak requires for a sear I increase the heat gradually, because I dont want to warp my skillet; especially important if youre cooking on the stove (You dont have to be gradual if youre preheating in the oven, or enclosed in a grill). Ill set it to med-low/med for 5 minutes then raise it a notch or two from there every few minutes until I get to the heat setting that I want.
      A few things that may prevent a sear:
      Pan temp is too low
      Moisture (pat the steaks dry with a paper towel before cooking)
      Moving it too early/often

  • @wallace49
    @wallace49 3 роки тому

    The high temp is great for the sear, but you can get a more even cook through the meat if you then finish at a lower temperature.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 роки тому

      Maybe you should make a video. 😂

    • @hypat1aa
      @hypat1aa Рік тому +1

      I use thicker cuts for rare/med rare, and reverse sear, finish on a very hot pan, usually cast iron. I usually use my Smithey pan or a pro 2 burner Lodge 2 sided griddle/grill.(see them on Chopped reruns, FANTASTIC griddle)
      No way is that Smithey better than its cast iron cousins, and the Lodge is just so good.

  • @dimmacommunication
    @dimmacommunication 3 роки тому

    I'm rewatching this video cause it popped in my suggested , damn the problem of cast iron is that when used 1 handed it hurts my back ( the heavy leverage triggers my back)

  • @honestnewsnet
    @honestnewsnet 2 місяці тому

    Where can I get a sweater like that? Brand?

  • @jacobmurphy1203
    @jacobmurphy1203 3 роки тому

    Love the look of that carbon steel pan but the amazon link in the description just takes me to a basic lodge carbon steel pan? Not the amber colored one used in the video

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому +1

      The one we used in the video is the Farmhouse Skillet by Smithey if you’re looking for it. I think it was $275 so we put a link to a more affordable option in the description.

    • @jacobmurphy1203
      @jacobmurphy1203 3 роки тому

      Thank you so much!

  • @ryangerman91
    @ryangerman91 2 роки тому

    fyi after you crush the garlic you can leave it in the paper and use it the same way but it'll be more protected from burning and still get the flavor

  • @Juos10kustu
    @Juos10kustu 3 роки тому

    what kind of carbon steel pan is that ? why is it that colour and why there is no patina ?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 роки тому

      Here’s a link to the pan. bit.ly/3md51EN. It came pre-seasoned

  • @Broooski
    @Broooski 3 роки тому +1

    De buyer pan is really great

  • @pragmatist165
    @pragmatist165 3 роки тому +1

    I just find that if I have to turn down the carbon steel pan, it takes too long to reheat .. so I don’t think the heat retention of carbon steel is really good enough

    • @georginaK21
      @georginaK21 3 роки тому

      That's also a plus though, if you find that you are cooking too high of a temperature the carbon steel will respond quicker when you turn down the gas, whereas with cast iron you turn it down and it takes much longer to respond which makes all the difference between being cooked and burned. Sometimes you want fast response times, which is why copper bottomed pans are so loved.

  • @myplace179
    @myplace179 Рік тому

    you can take the temp again when finish seared