My Mile Time Over 10 Years: Progressing to Running Sub 4 Minutes - The Athlete Special

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
  • Detailing my mile time progression over the past decade of my running career - from a high school track runner, to D1 at Georgetown, to Brooks and beyond! Hear my successes and failures over time, and how I've updated my training / workouts to continue improving my mile time PR in 2022.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 85

  • @acrelake
    @acrelake Рік тому +220

    I'd like to see how your son has progressed, he must be running by now.

  • @natep3739
    @natep3739 Рік тому +32

    After never running track I went from 7:07 to a 5:49 in one spring season, improvement is crazy until you get really fast

    • @ricefarmerjawsh7653
      @ricefarmerjawsh7653 Рік тому

      do you have any tips?

    • @natep3739
      @natep3739 Рік тому +1

      @@ricefarmerjawsh7653 just run as much as you can without hurting yourself, rest on weekends, do core and leg strengthening exercises(squats, lunges), do some workout and listen to your body so you don’t get shin splints

  • @francocruz144
    @francocruz144 Рік тому +59

    Everyone needs to watch the sub 4 story

    • @elichamberlain9361
      @elichamberlain9361 Рік тому +1

      what is it?

    • @BennyMKW
      @BennyMKW Рік тому +2

      @@elichamberlain9361 one of if not the best video on spencer's channel, super dramatic super intense

  • @Joeysub4
    @Joeysub4 Рік тому +38

    not even gonna lie, with how smooth you've looked lately at race pace, I think you could potentially hit a 3:55 full mile if you go fully at it for the next 2-3 years.

  • @RunningRefresh
    @RunningRefresh Рік тому +43

    Respect your commitment to the sport as well as your openness to different training styles. 👏

  • @MrJagsterS
    @MrJagsterS Рік тому +8

    Quick thought about thumbnail. I'd change left text from the year to your starting/slow mile time, and right to 3:xx showing the 3 minute but blurring the seconds/milliseconds. Really hope this doesn't come as unsolicited I just love the channel and think the video could do a lot better in suggested this way

  • @snooples
    @snooples Рік тому +18

    yes we would love to see your 800 progression! i feel like we haven''t seen you run an 800 in ages but that might just be my bad memory so it'd be cool to see a progression of that as well

  • @dr1s006
    @dr1s006 Рік тому +6

    lets go spencer, following u since the first sub 4 mile . Hoping for the best from a kid in greece trying to get better at running

  • @BETTYBLUE_
    @BETTYBLUE_ Рік тому +11

    Great video Spencer. Really enjoyed the more introspective look into your progression and training. Anecdotally, I made a similar change in my training around this point last year (stopped focusing on hitting "home run" workouts and added way more tempo/threshold type efforts) and was able to take 11 seconds off my mile PR after 4 years of total stagnation. Good Luck!

  • @dominofuel8050
    @dominofuel8050 Рік тому +5

    I'm super interested to see how this new style of training plays out for you. It seems like it deals more with long term fitness, which is what you need rather than the typical collegiate and even professional style of getting the athlete to peak at the most advantageous part of the season and then letting him drop off. Trust the process and I think you'll see some results next year.

  • @ianbusche1471
    @ianbusche1471 Рік тому +2

    I just find it crazy that you are still at 68k subs. You’ve been there so long and I feel like you should have atleast 100k by now

  • @robertbell387
    @robertbell387 Рік тому +4

    Yes, do the 800m progression next.

  • @dallantobler6144
    @dallantobler6144 Рік тому +1

    I highly recommend watching his sub 4 story series. I’ve watched the whole thing through a few times, way good!

  • @codyr2318
    @codyr2318 Рік тому +1

    This is a very good and realistic overview. Keep going Spencer! We’re all on your side!!!

  • @ianbarnett6027
    @ianbarnett6027 Рік тому +2

    Yes found this video very interesting Spencer especially in regards to you thoughts on training. One can certainly over complicate training processes and sometimes it is in ones best interest to keep things simple. I have tried to read as much as I can on middle distance training methods back in the 30's around the Lovelock era as amazed at the times they ran on limited training which included longs walks instead of traditional long runs. Remembering shoes and tracks were not like todays environment. Personally I think you obviously have all the speed you require but it is your aerobic conditioning that requires improving. Not necessary about massive mileage increases as it is all about individual capabilities. It is not how fast you can run a quarter in but can you string 4 of them together and this comes down to your aerobic base conditioning. I do feel you are definitely on the right track with your new training regime where you have actually slowed down in your tempo mile repeat efforts etc. Another interesting thing is how the Olympic triathletes train in regards to running ( maybe not the Norwegians though ). Mileage is not that high but their 5 and 10 k times are very good. This obviously is from the huge hours they spend on their bikes giving them all the aerobic conditioning they require. Just my 2 cents worth. All the very best. By the way personally I think you are more than capable of going under 3.55

  • @zaneclone
    @zaneclone Рік тому +2

    I think the take out is that if you stay healthy, you'll progress.... just make sure your training allows this...

  • @TheLongHaulCoach
    @TheLongHaulCoach Рік тому +1

    Yes!!! It take a while but that big aerobic base will pay off!! Stick it out! You will progress.

  • @nro337
    @nro337 Рік тому +1

    Like your mindset man. You got this!

  • @getplayed7272
    @getplayed7272 Рік тому

    I think a lot of people need to watch this video or understand the concept you just explained. A LOT of people push really hard and have those periods instead of looking at the long game. It truly is that, my threshold pace for the longest time was too fast but now I'm dialing it back. It's time for the long game

  • @infovidasupps8640
    @infovidasupps8640 Рік тому +1

    So happy for you buddy
    I 100% agree
    Over trained for years
    Really looking forward to your next couple years
    Maybe take a look at the Norwegian training model. Lactate testing so you know what you LT2 is
    Lots of easier stuff

  • @wardfreeman7533
    @wardfreeman7533 Рік тому +4

    Glad to hear you finally figuring out your AT and LT2 and looking at the long game. You have a LOT left to accomplish and years to do it. Although my person opinion (since subbing your channel almost six years ago) is give the 1500/mile another year then look to the 5000 and maybe the roads. But you know you best. Go for it!

  • @eriklynch5006
    @eriklynch5006 Рік тому +1

    I love this! I Know you can do it too! I loved what you said at the end, be prepared for the trial and error and I'm looking forward to seeing the recipe that works for you!

  • @msmyankees
    @msmyankees Рік тому

    First video of yours I’ve seen. As a cyclist I really liked where you said your current training is. People forget how much efforts over 2 minutes are primarily aerobic because they do have a huge anaerobic contribution. Those short efforts are also incredibly fatiguing, super easy to do them to often and never be fresh enough to do your best effort. When I ran in HS I was always overtrained.

  • @PoetWithPace
    @PoetWithPace Рік тому +1

    Incredible progression. Well done 🥳

  • @startrunstop
    @startrunstop Рік тому +1

    starting at 4:26 for the mile and working your way down to 3:59 is impressive.

    • @sawsy3863
      @sawsy3863 Рік тому

      not really.

    • @clibothy
      @clibothy Рік тому +1

      @@sawsy3863 L bait nobody's taking it

    • @sawsy3863
      @sawsy3863 Рік тому +1

      @@clibothy 3:59 is obviously impressive, but when you start at a 4:26 as a freshman you're like top 5 in the nation at your age. 3:59 is like top 100 in the NCAA

  • @hershey2581
    @hershey2581 Рік тому +2

    It would be crazy to think you’ve topped out. Only way you can top out where your PR is if you mentally convince yourself of it. Just need to keep stacking good training block on good training block, and work on your mental game. Progress isn’t linear, but it sure as shit isn’t over you’re not that old!

  • @trofee8
    @trofee8 Рік тому

    Very good analyze of yourself. From the 3 years that I run, I can tell you that less is more. This year I worked 8 months 7 days a week and I still pr'd on everything from 800m to 5km. Quality over quantitiy my friend.

  • @MattPlays96
    @MattPlays96 Рік тому

    This sounds like a lot of my favortie fighters. I think if you look at the true goats they are always ready. They dont need a 16 weeks camp and a 15-20 lb cut. They stay in shape and they oeak as needed. Same with body building, gone are the days of dirty bulk and hard cut but more just maintain and peak easily and often as needed. I like this man

  • @bcrruns1085
    @bcrruns1085 Рік тому

    Good vid. Looking forward to the next PR.

  • @kevinmshea58
    @kevinmshea58 Рік тому

    This is cool. I am pretty sure that any training system is not going to be right for every person. You stepping back and trying something different is amazing and I am looking forward to see what the results will be.

  • @DanielNowak-xj5oc
    @DanielNowak-xj5oc 5 місяців тому

    Awesome !

  • @DanielNowak-xj5oc
    @DanielNowak-xj5oc 5 місяців тому

    You will be a Olympian one day Spencer in the 1500m !

  • @Bweyg
    @Bweyg Рік тому

    2:36 I'm just dying at this part XD "Yeah dude you broke 4 but it was at BU"

  • @Shevock
    @Shevock Рік тому +6

    Do you think training more like a 5k/mile guy (E.g. Ingebritsen) will get you faster than training more like an 800/mile guy?

    • @ethan.wroblewski
      @ethan.wroblewski Рік тому +4

      If he focused on the 5k, as far as getting it quicker his mile would come down easy. He would get under 3:57 for sure. I think spencer has a 3:55 in him.

  • @daveconvoy5793
    @daveconvoy5793 Рік тому

    Spencer you definitely have a mile pb in you. 💯%

  • @acrelake
    @acrelake Рік тому +1

    This sounds exciting, hopefully you can do some races next season if you want to see where you are at!
    I started a triathlon training plan last year sort of combining the Norwegian and 80/20 methods and it has been super sustainable and consistent. I used to cycle through burnouts because I was just going too hard too often.

  • @ReynaldoOrio
    @ReynaldoOrio Рік тому +1

    Loved the video, butr how about looking forward. What are your goals moving forward in the next couple of season? What options do you see for yourself as you progress in the future?

  • @tizioincognito.3330
    @tizioincognito.3330 Рік тому +1

    Keep trying, training and racing.
    You did also 3 km under 8'00, last year.
    Risults will come.

  • @dummieswithmoney7747
    @dummieswithmoney7747 Рік тому +1

    "4:26 pretty good for a freshman in high school". Me at 4:59

  • @rhidiandavies1991
    @rhidiandavies1991 Рік тому

    I'm not a runner, but used to compete at a reasonably high amateur level in olympic weightlifting (just about national level on a good day) and used to peak like crazy for copetitions where I would be mentally and physically broken afterwards and my numbers would drop off quite a bit for the months following. I ended up quitting due to a reccuring injury but kept training casually, nothing crazy compared to what I was doing, probably 2 hour sessions 4-5 times a week vs 3-4 hour sessions 6 times a week. What was surprising was that although I could only get within ~5kg of my best competition lifts on a given day, I could pretty much hit those numbers any given training day. It just seems that, long term, the human body performs at a high level much more consistently when you're not red-lining your training too frequently. If I had a kid who was interested in any sort of athletics I think I'd tell them to just focus on long term progression rather than peaking for relatively low-importance competitions constantly. You just need to peak for those 1 or 2 comps per year when there are actual consequences.

  • @alexrogers3140
    @alexrogers3140 Рік тому +3

    800 progression please!!!!

  • @beastfightingclan6150
    @beastfightingclan6150 Рік тому +1

    letss gooo

  • @19Kamau79
    @19Kamau79 Рік тому +1

    I was surprised most of true mile races seem to be during indoor season, I thought 1500m race isn't so usual in USA.

    • @ericf9465
      @ericf9465 Рік тому +1

      Many high schools do 1600 and colleges do 1500. True miles are a lot more rare.

  • @sanki7087
    @sanki7087 Рік тому +1

    Can someone explain me what exactly his current type of training is and what it mainly focuses on

  • @erickgonzalez1094
    @erickgonzalez1094 2 місяці тому

    Is cool to see so that would mean anything under 3:50 means you got some talent

  • @juanmanuelsandoval4895
    @juanmanuelsandoval4895 Рік тому +4

    I honestly dont think you're made for the 800, maybe you should go for the 1500-5k events

  • @GTK_GAMES
    @GTK_GAMES Рік тому

    I do long distance and last year my 5k time was around 26 to 27 but this year I got around 20 to 21

  • @karml9134
    @karml9134 Рік тому

    Hi, Spencer. Use low-intensity aerobic training to lay the foundation, replace some of the speed training with strength training, and learn to cut yourself and pain like a Buddhist during the competition.

  • @9MRSG
    @9MRSG Рік тому

    You look much smoother now. I bet your 3k times are much faster than they were then though

  • @nathanpresswood15
    @nathanpresswood15 Рік тому +1

    LeTtTtTtTsSsSs GoOoOoOooOo!!!

  • @insanity0854
    @insanity0854 Рік тому

    Pretty good that’s insane for a freshman I’m just tryna get under 5:30 in 8th lol

  • @hdhdhhehe6709
    @hdhdhhehe6709 4 місяці тому

    Do you do weight training? Squats?

  • @NightPhoenix27
    @NightPhoenix27 10 місяців тому

    Bruh a 4:26 as a freshman is crazy

  • @battlefrontbrothers7481
    @battlefrontbrothers7481 Рік тому

    When will your next race be and how long is it

  • @Chasery
    @Chasery Рік тому

    I think I've been seeing a lot of people saying this but it's nice seeing you do 1500's right now but with the type of training your doing and how strong you look, I think you would make a great 10k/Half Marathon runner. I would love to see when you go up in distance what you can do. Also because correct me if your wrong but didn't you say your dad was a very good marathoner?!? You might have it in your blood then

  • @youssefmabchour363
    @youssefmabchour363 Рік тому

    in my opinion you could be good if you run 5k ,10k . you could run under 13:30 for 5k and under 28:30 for 10k.
    think about it.
    Good luck.

  • @GrahamLancaster-bj5sk
    @GrahamLancaster-bj5sk Рік тому

    Hi conversions dont count. Come on chap, you like confidence. "Jumps" are going to happen if you train and you are still growing. The time to graft - as you are- is the senior years (adult). You need to literally need to think like a distance runner in the Winter seasons but doing fecking hard sessions. The sessions you post for someone of your ability are poor / not a challenge even if they feel hard. I dwould love to see you come good you need an independent coach / group of runners of a high standard to push you on.

  • @energyviper8465
    @energyviper8465 Рік тому

    Before your freshman year did you train a lot?

  • @jeppejarnit-bjergs211
    @jeppejarnit-bjergs211 Рік тому

    interesting. so would you say your dads training hasn’t been optimal and what would actually have been best for you?

  • @ethan.wroblewski
    @ethan.wroblewski Рік тому +3

    You got 3:55 in you.

  • @evanmegoulas
    @evanmegoulas Рік тому +2

    Spencer brown what’s your next plan

  • @pr1dee
    @pr1dee Рік тому

    bro said 4:26 is “pretty good” for a freshman wtf holy

  • @Lebowski53
    @Lebowski53 Рік тому

    I really do feel like American HS students push things too hard and their times are so quick, the progression suffers.

  • @elliotcasson2808
    @elliotcasson2808 Рік тому +1

    Jesus Loves you!

  • @DuckRunning
    @DuckRunning Рік тому +1

    Great video spencer. Love if you can check out my videos

  • @rubenmedina9156
    @rubenmedina9156 Рік тому +1

    I like the work that you put in the videos... but men you seem stuck... and its been like that for a long time, every time i hear the Brook story it just makes me sad for you... yes you´ve have had some difficulties but move on... i like the mile work but you should try new distances, develop your body a bit, this mile quest seems like an slaving endeavour

  • @lacesit
    @lacesit Рік тому

    4:26 as a Fucking freshman wtf

  • @MrBubblesTheMonkey
    @MrBubblesTheMonkey Рік тому

    Bro thinks a 4:26 is "pretty fast" for a freshman.. that's literally faster than my high schools fastest mile

  • @basehead617
    @basehead617 Рік тому

    Nobody improves forever, people plateau or go up and down and its not rare for someone's PRs to be in college or even high school..

  • @drew6927
    @drew6927 Рік тому +1

    How tf u make money? I know UA-cam doesn’t pay you well with this little views.

  • @sawsy3863
    @sawsy3863 Рік тому

    rip L genetics

  • @Postermaestro
    @Postermaestro Рік тому

    You're a grinder and you're training too hard. Training more and harder than the rest but regressing. I know because I'm the same. That's probably where you need a coach that is that way too, that will understand. Because even if you're doing the *same* as someone else on paper, you're pushing way harder so the fatigue gets out of hand.