Toto Wolff DOUBLES DOWN on Red Bull Collapse! 😨
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Toto Wolff has backed up Zak Brown's comments that Adrian Newey will not be the last key member of Red Bull to depart the organisation, with Mercedes also receiving interest from top engineers. Christian Horner fires back, saying Toto should focus more on fixing Lewis Hamilton and George Russell's car, because his team has lost 220 staff to Red Bull's Powertrains division over the last several years.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Alright guys
00:30 Magnussen
02:30 Verstappen
07:00 Driver Market
10:00 Newey
14:00 Toto vs Christian
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Newey responded to Hamilton's comments: "It's very kind of Lewis to say that. I'm very flattered, but at the moment it's just take a little bit of a break and see what happens next".
a little bit of a break can be a couple months but there is also the huge possibility that Newey may prefer to be involved in a project where he can have an actual stake in the ownership, who knows really.
a team like Williams can give him that opportunity and it would be a very sweet Cinderella story.
@@jkbzzWilliams is owned by private equity now, and they aren’t exactly known for being that generous. They will rather increase the salary package than give stake.
Max shows that wat ever happens to the car he is still able to perform remember when Max had a big peace of somebody else's car damaged his car at Silverstone he still finished 6st.
Luckely Max is not a Crybaby!
@@51bikerboy wrong thread dude for this comment
@@51bikerboy What has Max even to do with my comments? What's with you Max fans obsessing over him whenever Hamilton's name drops in a comment or post.
Horner admitting that he has poached 200 engineers from Mercedes. Is it no surprise that Red bull are where they are. Red bull is really Mercedes under a different badge. If you can't beat them hire them.
This part and these DTS Max fans thinking that it’s all Max
Yeah, looks like that is why Mercedes are fucked and Lewis obviously watched it all unfold.
...and Mercedes would have had ex McLaren, Ferrari engineers etc. Some build their career and make themselves noticed and get poached for more money or other benefits. Others just want a new challenge every few years. F1 team staff changing teams - must be a day ending with the letter Y
Bullshit, the entire paddock is a revolving door - all of the engineers have worked for everybody as it is a very small club.
It was 220 engine designers that Mercedes had to let go that Redbull hired , Redbull never Poached any of Mercedes engine designers
While it is Redbull staff from through out the car design and construction departments that are WANTING to leave
Verstappen was not complaining about the assumed damage..
Red bull come up with excuses, it's par for the course at this point
K-mag's gonna have a weekend away from work with his kids. I think he's aiming for it on purpose.🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
@colinwest3301- you’re hilarious 🤣 Good call
So funny hearing Horner say that other people talk a lot 😅
exactly,,,,
O’L Right Guys 🎉
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@@Al3xisAE that’s even better 🤣
Can we just all take a moment to realise what happened to Aston Martin this weekend. They were the 8th fastest car, they were even 6.5 tenths slower than the Merc! None of their upgrades seem to work and they also have Lance stroll syndrome… if I were Frenando I’d be regretting my decision.
I don’t think Fernando had any better options. Go for the pay day. Also, they will get a Honda engine in 26. Maybe it’s worth the wait.
I agree but not sure he had a better option.
They dont want to drop the w!ndow l!cker - much of their pain is self inflicted.
I don't know what happened to them, other than maybe the track didn't reward Fernando ragging the car round. It usually works well for him, but the weird tyre issues due to the heat and maybe the driving style really hurt them.
I say that due to laps such as Gasly's, Ricciardo's in SQ and Lewis in Q2. Then they were nowhere near session/ day.
It seemed to not like being driven aggressively as one small slip meant overheating the tyres and bam, you're 15th like Alonso or 17th like Ricciardo , when the latter was 4th in SQ.
I still think Aston are among the quicker cars on one lap pace and ahead of Merc. They have been anyway in most other sessions bar Miami and the wet quali in China.
They were off 6.5 seconds, or .650 of a second?
One swallow does not a summer make. Toto should put down that crackpipe.
What's he gonna say when it's back to scheduled programming the next race and Redbull is putting 20 seconds+ on the field again
Exodus follows salad days. Always has, it's just when.
Won’t happen McLaren will be as quick as red bull from now on
As a Redbull/Max fan, I fully realise that they’ll or stay on top forever, no team has or will. What irks me the most is Toto’s trigger happiness to criticise the smallest of things like it’s the next Armageddon. Be it for Redbull or his own team
K Mag is definitely getting a race ban before Spa, Bearman would shine in that car.
That would be nice
Don't think so. HULK would destroy him one handed.
Hiring 220 people from Mercedes power trains department is like hiring 220 From Ferraris engine department , Alpines engine department or Hondas engine department
Redbull have basically hired Mercedes to build an engine for them but are losing key staff from other areas in car design and construction
Peter Windsor has an educated view of exactly where and why Max lost that 0.25s in Turn 1 on every lap. His experience of such matters (driving an F1 car) is unparalleled on the web. Experience and great insight. You should try it.
With time and the dedication this man clearly has, it'll happen naturally. He's just reporting what others are speculating. He should watch Peter Windsor a little more though to get his insight as well
You should share the reason if you know it. Thanks in advance!
Max fans have gotten old enough to start calculating tenths I see.
I think that, if Max said, the car was feeling and driving the same, and the times didn't change before his cone incident, who are we to say anything if he lost time, especially 0.25 sec in 1 corner...
Is that the same Peter who is famous for supporting that gold vapourware energy drink company?
It's scary that Mercedes would probably be still dominant if they never lost those engineers to Red bull
They would have smoked the competition in 2021 , if floor edges , Das , party mode , etc weren't banned .
They would’ve made that zero-pod concept actually work 💀
@@sidharthtirkey44if they still had the 80hp advantage lol
@@cafe88racer53 their HP is back. It was only down in 23 because of cooling concerns
😂😂😂
Total collapse with a 2nd & 4th? The other teams would kill for such a result.
British desperately want RB to collapse because they understand that Max is methodically destroying Hamilton`s records one by one.
Don't count your chickens... this will take some time
@@leotimtom6637Lewis has the most poles, podiums and wins by A LOT. It’s not even close
@@johnnychimpo7539and Schumacher is still the GOAT lol
@@johnnychimpo7539realistically, Max could probably take over wins by mid 2026 if Redbull get the new Regs right and the PU works.
Unless of course Ferrari really cooks something up.
But slowly and steadily, Hamilton records will fall. Just like Schumachers.
You credited Horner with getting Newey into Red Bull? To me, watching at the time it looked like Newey followed Coulthard around, trying to give him a championship winning car. First to McLaren then Red Bull, both teams he did design a championship winning car, but not for Coulthard.
Coulthard was never going to win a WDC...
@@KailamiMwiinga I doubt he ever would ever, but I think he had more to do with Newey joining RB than Horner
@@POzziee that's a fair point
I believed that Max may feel that the car is different if there is damage on the floor. However, during the interview, he mentioned that he didn't feel any difference. Basically, he doesn't want to diminish Lando's win.
But then Horner also finds some points to blame for not being fast enough?
Piastri will be quick in the next race with all the upgrades can’t wait
i'm new to this F1 from tac rab, been watching the cod stuff for years now. started playing f1 '23 and am really getting into the f1 stuff. excited for the new game. i'd love a mid-season quick story line catch up but i'm probably the only one that needs it. great job rab
Good reporting as usual. Thanks! It would be nice to see you introduce yourself at the beginning of your videos or sign off with your name, so you can gain more name recognition. Thanks for showing the graphics for racepace. Good data, but would be nice if you could explain some of the detail a bit more. Some of it is difficult to make sense of just at a glance. Keep up the good work.
Good to see Zak "Donut" Brown and Diaper Don exchange experiences on loss-making companies in McLaren's garage 😎
Quite ironic that they both heavily rely on Saudi money
Piastri will be the best driver on the grid within the next 2 years
Shouldn't Toto be concerned about Mercedes Benz? 🤗
Nein.....
He can't fix his car, so this is his only chance of beating RBR lol
toto should be more concerned with his own teams collapse
Huh. Are you saying the next Update by AMG will not fix everything? 😅
😂@@frankhart2188
Your team first
He is playing mind games, it is also a part of the sport
Love your F1 content mate, the best out there. Adrian Newley was speaking to Natalie Pinkham not Rachel Brookes by the way 🇮🇹😉😀👍
The under floor volume and stalling small amounts of the floor at certain speeds seems like something some teams don't seem to have understood, adjust ability of ground effect makes a huge difference and i have a feeling this is where we are seeing the difference in performance.
Without Lewis... Mercedes is going backwards...
This season got really good, I'm so excited for imola
Toto's just pissed that Max will never let Lewis win as he did for Lando.
Chill. Lando earned that
@@MJ-yc3zc Yeah, Max just suddenly started doing slower laps than before the safety car. Sure.
@@Bohonk212Max couldnt even pull away from Piastri with half the upgrades on his Mclaren.
That's some hot take; and evidence?
@@Alumnikiid Did just fine staying out of DRS range of anyone behind. All he needed to do to ensure he was second podium to his gift-boy.
One correction. Haas are ecstatic with KMags driving. He has helped them get points. You could argue not so here as the SC for the Sergeant crash kinda screwed Hulk but other than that, they will take it.
Gees it’s only one race, even Christian himself said that it was going to be a lot tougher due to teams converging
Or he will do it himself by dismantling a well working team, to help teams converge
It was kinda Safety Car miraculously win for Lando of course. But a win at the end. To me Piastri is been racing with more ambition lately and I was positive he could get first win before Norris, this it could be humbling for the Brit. Well, by other ways Zak Brown glad to see him crazy nuts for this. Good content and I like your channel.
Well max won some races with the help from the safety car 🚗...same with most drivers..
I suspected they rigged their break caliper to lockup for Max’s DNF, did he jump the chicane and hit the pillar to cause damage? If max is as lights out as everyone says…..strange.
Merc can give all those staff free cars every year and say if you want to sell it you can hahaha. That 16:31 way you'd beat the cost cap and they'd still get the same money
Wanted.....Newey the man of the moment.
I think the engineers /everyone see the writing on the wall don’t want to be a part of a rebuild in 2026. Likely leaving now at the peak to get the most money.
Who would've thought that team bosses talking smack to each other would be more interesting than smack talk between drivers...😊
Oh max didn’t win so he must have damage or the teams fault 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If we are being honest, Max couldn't shake off Piastri despite Piastri only having half an update. In fact Piastri forced him into an error, given how cool Max is that probably says a lot about the car
come on 50K
Drive-Thru penalties!!
Any odds of Sainz being pulled in by Andretti as their test and eventually top driver. Seems liberty will have a choice to make with US congress dangling antitrust fines, taxes etc without justifiable reasons not to accept an Andretti team that would most likely start with results mid to upper mid teams.
Nice race by Mclaren, shame Oscar did not make the podium.
Perez and Mv, its just one circuit, no need to get too excited just yet.
Horner saying he should focus ont he people red bull took for merc so your saying your recent success is down to mercs ex people that won 7 straight years 😂😂😂
Mercedes’ should worry about their team who have no clue what they are doing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They need to fix their simulations & figure out what their updates are going to do
well as Horner stated he's taken many from mercedes ,prob when they were winning 6 championships..... now folks want to leave RB cause of that weasel...
@@h28custom84 Nobody's left Red Bull 🤣, Newey was eventually going to leave and was already expected, other than him no enginner has left. Horner's senior aero team of Wache, Waterhouse and Balbo have all signed contract extensions till 2028.
This driver swap is gaining momentum, didn't think Newey would go to Astin
If i was working for RB and the Horner situation would affect me and my work, no matter how dominant that team is, I'd be looking for another team.
It’s either gonna pop off at imola like it did with Alonso and Schumacher, or we’re really going to see how much of a dud this season will turn out to be.
Wouldn’t trust what CH says
Situation develops
A long 2 weeks to wait to see if anyone can really challenge RB. But if Ferrari & McLaren both become competitive, they will take points of RB and each other, with Max as a clear No1 in RB. Constructors may close up a bit though. Alpine needs a new leader (possible opening). Coulthard was the key to Horner getting Newey, though it still needed that last salesman approach from Horner. Everyone wants to destabilise RB just like Merc & Ferrari in the past.
new era fans seem to focus more on the drivers rather than the teams themselves, I'd assume it has to do with the netflix show.
Toto is so focused on the Red Bull collapse, he hasn’t noticed his team already has.
Logan could have looked in his mirrors tho
Wasn't his fault that one time, but seems like the really good drivers have the sixth sense to avoid trouble, even when it's NOT their fault
It was never Mag’s corner he wasn’t even alongside, he should backed off.
@@ednacius1sure but like julkiewicz above said, he lacks that sixth sense to not get into trouble
@@ednacius1Sargeant should have given vim some space, ultimately it doesn't matter his F1 career is over.
@@dodgemF1 he wasn’t entitled to space based on the current rules.
😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍Top vid as always Boss..
Do you guys think Audi would sign Mick if Carlos passes?
It's confusing for you because you don't get it....
Brown/ Wolff/ James wishful thinking!
Naah haas think this is great. Magnuson fights dirty helping Hulkenberg get points for the team and if he gets a race ban they will just stick Bearman in the car gor a race getting good data on him. This is a win win for Haas.
Good - we'll get one year of exciting racing next year before they change the rules where someone will dominate for a few years again.
We will come back to this title statement at the end of the season , I think it will be nerfed
If 220 Power Train employees have jumped from Benz to Red Bull PT then Benz are in deep shit and as long as Mclaren retain the Benz engine contract they maybe will not be fine, what do McLaren do, they can’t go backwards again, they can’t go with Honda, Aston is exclusive. F*ck 🤯💥 No doubt Ferrari can build a fast engine.
Horner uses the same “comeback” each time. “Worry about your car”. Blah blah blah.
Oh and Toto is focusing on the 220 Merc Employees that RB took. He’s getting some of them back. Lol.
Al Wright Guyess
LH is looking with a close eye on how Ferrari development is going to go this season, he might be rubbing his hands😅
.. but do not forgot the SC...
Red bull have broken these other team leaders it’s hillarious,
😂😂 what you on about toto?!? Fix your car 😂😂😂 killed toto!!
Horner actually telling the “truth” 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Sometimes it's the team pressuring employees that don't perform that send cv's out. I think all this crap talk is because most people focusing on of track nonsense are not true F1 racing fans and we need to weed them out as well.
You must be fun at parties
2:30 these 2 sentences were not said together...
Rab trolling with Bearman at this point. Is it his cousin or something?
Just a fellow Brit
It’s funny when you suck so much that your only joy is hoping for your competitors downfall instead of wanting to make yourself better 😂
Merc should focus on their car 💀
*Toto is so myopic, he thinks he caused the Red Bull downfall when it was internal all this time Toto keeps guessing you're the joke in the paddock.*
Who u think leaked all that internal stuff?
Less goh🎉 everyday therapy 📌 📍
Penalty points should only be given if you put another driver in danger or wreck them. Not for defending your position.
Newey is screaming .... Im going to Ferrari lol
Why is every pundit calling Saintz going anywhere else other then Audi. makes no sense. the guy can go to a team long term, that will firstly pay a lot of money, secondly give him a long term three plus year deal, thirdly Audi have been successful in every motorsport they have ever been involved in. So he gets a no great car for a couple of years but in all likely hood with 3 or 4 years they will be a contender. Red Bull ? Big questions on their engine program for 2026. Mercedes is a short term deal a year or two at most and honestly they haven't gotten the down force cars right at all. So where else is there
Red bull won't go down hill if anything red bull will still be strong with max..
"I have it printed out !1!!"
Half the video is of you repeating yourself with the same story over and over just to drag out the timeframe.
This war of words between team principles is pathetic, these are supposed to be leaders of a work force, representing team investors, who if I was an investor would start to worry. This does no nothing for F1 image. Maybe we need a shake up in the team principals.
Oli behrman!!! Take the penalty Mag! The sport needs rookies!
Off track drama is almost as spicy as the racing?
Mercedes strugles recently in Miami last couple of years this was the 3rd race in Miami
Many will feel and say, that both Christian Horner of RedBull Racing and Toto Wolff of Mercedes AMG are on the receiving end of 'Karma'; specifically for the plenty of thump that they have both dealt out, in the murky underworld of F1 vicious competition.
McLaren VS Ferrari.... the way its supposed to be...
Horner is full of it. Max hitting that bottle cone was him purposely hoping for a safety car and saving himself some time in the pit, but it didnt work out as he intended
i also think it felt rigged. such weird mistake.
lol max didn’t need a safety car, he was doing fine on his own. Why would someone in front want a safety car to remove their lead
@KlavarRecordings it just seemed odd that Max, whom rarely makes mistakes, in fact he was the only one who did so in that particular section that weekend, did so. The gap was their but it wasn't big enough to do so comfortably. Having mclaren and ferrari so close behind. Also knowing that Redbull wasn't running at peek performance on the hard tire compared to the mediums.
@@RicardoVargas-dy9tf yeah, clearly they weren't comfy with the gap they had. but, if they did it on purpose, it's really cheap. because, even though it could've worked for him, the risk/reward outcome wasn't sure and locked in. and that's what happened. it benefitted Lando more than himself. but i kinda struggle to believe they did it. but i think it looked weird on screen. 50/50 in my head.
Toto should worry about his own team.
i have never liked Zac Brown altho i like Mclaren. Zac is just a big mouth trouble maker. he is another Jos Verstappen in different clothing. screw both of em
Say what you like about Zac brown because we all know Stella is the backbone of McLaren and they will be super fast for the rest of the year
@@myslavi9500 i can roll wih that....
well magnussen knew that he race dirty,, but i dont think he had any intention to crash into another driver, he just bad at wheel to wheel racing and he is dirty..
How's Toto's driver line up going losing a 7 time world champ could also could be a sign of a collapse.
Sainz would have been in second if Perez hadn’t forgotten to use the break at the first corner. Still think Sainz is faster and more consistent than Charles
Recruit james vowles instead as ne team principal
Horner snaked engineers and now the tables will turn, I can’t wait!
Ok so really today is a rehash of yesterday
LANDOOO 🎉 P1 your a formula 1 race winner 🏆 Lando Norris
Toto is over lol.
Amazed that after a decade, Horner, (even being married to Posh Spice) is still obsessed w/ Toto. LOL!!! Most TPs talk about having to work on their cars. Horner always talks about everyone else, and how they always get cheated or get victimized somehow. Poor baby. maybe buy yourself another jet?
Yeh excuses aren't a good look and it's Horner, it's expected. Whinger and Ginger spice married to each other btw. Posh is married to David Beckham.
Toto isn't talking about working on his car 😂.
Nailed it... and yeah a return to McLaren v Ferrari would send F1 viewing figures stratospheric. Re the exodus from Red Bull, it's pretty inevitable when a teams stock is so so high, if you're an engineer you're gonna try and move when your team is at it's most successful and about to hit a rocky road, both by Newey's departure and new rules, remember Red Bull are gonna be entering the new engine rules with zero experience, partner Ford with no experience for decades. My bet is Ferrari will dominate in the new engine era, possibly Mercedez engines and of course Honda. It's going to get very interesting and hopefully entertaining!
The Toto and Zac show. So tired of listening to these clowns.
LOL… Toto and Brown’s comments about Redbull, a team that has dominated them in recent years simply are gamesmanship. Anything you can do to get inside your opponents head is fair play, nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly! I think it's hilarious that Oliver Mintzlaff said Toto is being "disrespectful" for discussing signing Max, but then Christian goes and claims they poached 200+ employees from Mercedes. You don't see Toto going around badmouthing Fred for signing Lewis or calling him "disrespectful".
Also Toto really hasn't said anything besides that he'd love to sign Max (duh, who wouldn't) but that it's up to Max to decide. He also wasn't the one that brought up Resumes flying around, that was Zak. Yet Christian chooses to go after Toto for something he didn't even say??
Honestly I think this is a bad look for Red Bull. Obviously Zak and Toto have gotten to them lol