Why Did Avon Get Mad At Stringer Over Brother Mozuone in Jail? | The Wire Explained

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  • In season 2 of HBO's The Wire, Avon Barksdale is in prison and the Barksdale organisation is being run by Stringer Bell. When Stringer wants to work with Proposition Joe behind Avon's back, Avon sends in Brother Mouzone to take care of the Eastside gangsters, but Stringer sets up Mouzone by having Omar Little come after him.
    Later, Stringer visits Mouzone in hospital, and when he tells Avon that Mozuone is not saying who tried to kill him, Avon gets angry at Stringer. Why did Avon get angry at Stringer in the jail scene? Let's discuss.
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  • @CineRanter
    @CineRanter  Рік тому +33

    *Why Did The Greek Choose Marlo Over Proposition Joe? The Wire Explained:*
    ua-cam.com/video/rkOT4kokT98/v-deo.html

    • @parklandtrife
      @parklandtrife Рік тому +3

      Marlo was easier to control and predict.

    • @Xainfinen
      @Xainfinen Рік тому

      You made a spelling mistake in the title.

    • @bigl161985
      @bigl161985 Рік тому

      Hey you gotta be mindful when you say dominican you said it in two different ways which means two different countries 🇩🇴 🇩🇲 . It's the way you say the name that differs from the two

    • @Drew_Thompson
      @Drew_Thompson Рік тому

      Dough min eh can, not Dominique-can.

  • @masmirage
    @masmirage Рік тому +950

    Stringer had the smartest guy in the room complex. But he was often exposed for being short-sighted and narrow-minded throughout the series. That was his biggest downfall.

    • @e5141981
      @e5141981 Рік тому +60

      He was the smartest within his crew, outside of it everyone wrapped circles around him.

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG Рік тому +127

      @@e5141981 He wasn't smarter than Avon.

    • @ryanrobinson1578
      @ryanrobinson1578 Рік тому +75

      Always playing those away games

    • @earhearthush-up5549
      @earhearthush-up5549 Рік тому +59

      @@KtotheG nah he was definitely smarter than Avon OVERALL, but the gaps in his knowledge that Avon didn’t have(street shit) were just deadlier

    • @e5141981
      @e5141981 Рік тому +9

      @@shivahuggins1276 Clay Davis, Prop Joe

  • @Saturdayz_In_The_Fall
    @Saturdayz_In_The_Fall Рік тому +258

    I feel like the moment Stringer asked him “Who did this to you” Mouzone knew he had something to do with it.

  • @KtotheG
    @KtotheG Рік тому +405

    Stringer made a common mistake that "jack fakers" and snakes tend to make and that is pretend to be concerned about an associate's welfare in order to throw him off suspicion that you're really a jack faker and a snake. As a professional, Brother Mouzone was able to sniff him out immediately, which is why he set him up with the "I'll take care of THEM myself" remark. He knew that Stringer was faking concern and so he wanted to see if he would confirm it. Stringer's lack of street wisdom was exposed several times throughout the course of the series.

    • @Delightfully_Bitchy
      @Delightfully_Bitchy Рік тому +8

      Could you elaborate exactly what a "jack faker" is?

    • @rukwirwaandre112
      @rukwirwaandre112 Рік тому +6

      Fam you damn right I agree with you all the way

    • @rukwirwaandre112
      @rukwirwaandre112 Рік тому +6

      Cold facts so much ish he should’ve seen coming but always got caught sleepin

    • @woodwyrm
      @woodwyrm Рік тому +9

      yeah exactly, Stringer always longed to leave the street behind, whereas to Avon and, to some extent, Marlo the street was home and where they plied their trade; Stringers lack of street smarts and reluctance to learn the lessons the corner would force upon a player would eventually be his doom.

    • @leviathanmg
      @leviathanmg Рік тому +1

      @@Delightfully_Bitchy Lying, basically. Telling stories, especially when trying to pretend to be something you're clearly not. "Frontin'." "Perpetratin'." Dudes that gangbang on IG but not in the street. Neighbors that ask you about the robbery at your house, feigning concern and sympathy, and they're the ones who robbed you. Bishop at the repast for Raheem in "Juice."

  • @obatron1
    @obatron1 Рік тому +58

    Stringer: “we’re going to get the guys who did this”
    Brother Mouzone: (adds stringer to kill list)

  • @ghettocrimes2383
    @ghettocrimes2383 Рік тому +96

    Brother Mousone moved a certain type of way, just like Omar. The only way to find cats like Omar and the Brother is to contact a third party that knows how to contact them. The Brother never asked Omar in the hotel scene how he located him is proof positive that the Brother knew he had been set up by someone he knew in Baltimore, and only 2 people knew him directly...Stringer and Avon. Stringer showing up at the bedside appearing overly concerned and sneakily fishing was the icing on the cake for Brother. The hospital room scene is genius in the way the director used body mechanics demonstrated by Stringer to indicate deceit and Brother Mousone's body language and speech tone/delivery to relay to Stringer, "You stupid mother fucker". This show has got to be one of the best if not the best film works ever.

    • @willysnowman
      @willysnowman 2 місяці тому

      ok lady

    • @howWhyteslookat21
      @howWhyteslookat21 2 місяці тому

      You're definitely over analyzing this. He knew he was set up from Omar saying he did a crime he didn't when he wasn't even in town. It had nothing to do with Omar finding him.

  • @idkwhodidthis2990
    @idkwhodidthis2990 Рік тому +114

    Hearing the British, I think, accent quoting Avon's "they saw your ghetto ass coming from miles away" made me literally laugh out loud. Great breakdown

    • @Ukraineaissance2014
      @Ukraineaissance2014 Рік тому +1

      London asian accent id call it

    • @paul-dq6lk
      @paul-dq6lk 5 місяців тому

      South African I believe

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 4 місяці тому

      These damn British channels always have the best breakdowns on American series.

    •  9 днів тому

      I almost died when I heard that😂

  • @it.was.written
    @it.was.written Рік тому +121

    Loved this scene; Avon was the best kingpin on the show. The game was ingrained in him early.

  • @al2931
    @al2931 Рік тому +134

    It made no sense for Stringer to ask Brother who shot him. Avon called on Brother to be muscle so obviously they didn’t have any in house. If they can’t secure their own towers how are they possibly going to help Brother do something that they already hired him to do previously? That was a dead giveaway to Brother, who was already suspicious after his encounter with Omar.

  • @dcaseng
    @dcaseng Рік тому +326

    Greatest show ever made, which is why it's still being analyzed nearly 20 years later.

    • @adgee5401
      @adgee5401 Рік тому +2

      Lol.

    • @tizodd6
      @tizodd6 Рік тому +24

      DISCO-INFERNO-70: It's so difficult trying to get people to give it a chance because it's an old series and people assume they already know what it's about with giving it a try. The Wire is the best series ever, and I actually feel a little bad for the people who chose not to give it a chance, lol.
      I rewatch the entire series every few years. No other series has come close for me (except maybe GoT - minus the last season and a half).

    • @tizodd6
      @tizodd6 Рік тому +2

      @Women should cook And clean unprompted After season 4, GoT starts going down but I don't think it's "bad" yet.

    • @PRAYIMAKET
      @PRAYIMAKET Рік тому

      So this show has been out for 20 years wooow that's awesome

    • @homielander5924
      @homielander5924 Рік тому +3

      All in da game

  • @parklandtrife
    @parklandtrife Рік тому +42

    Brother knew that String was too smart and connected not to know or have information about who shot him.String pretending to not know anything about the hit was a clear indication.

  • @gregorylibra5114
    @gregorylibra5114 Рік тому +22

    Don't forget the Clay Davis fiasco. Thee Clay Davis. Downtown Clay Davis.

    • @tredinyamoore8640
      @tredinyamoore8640 2 місяці тому +1

      My Favorite 😂 and The Referee Scene along with the Robbery Scene Omar 😉's Then Said No Doubt!💪🏾

    • @gregorylibra5114
      @gregorylibra5114 Місяць тому +1

      Shitttttttttttttttttttttt

  • @slimetime3270
    @slimetime3270 Рік тому +188

    I can’t believe that people think Marlo was better than Avon in anyway or even would’ve beat Avon in the war. Avon was about to blow him and his crew off the face of west Baltimore literally‼️

    • @briancarrier4439
      @briancarrier4439 Рік тому

      Avon should’ve died at that phone booth outside of Orlando’s

    • @GiantsRTheBest1
      @GiantsRTheBest1 Рік тому

      Marlo had hitters to overcompensate for his lack of strategy compared to Avon. Barksdale used to have heavy hitters too back before the cops really started going after them specifically. Haven’t watched the show in a while but Bird and Weebay come to mind. I know there was also some big cock diesel looking dude who was supposed to be a tough enforcer too.

    • @kirdazemar6931
      @kirdazemar6931 Рік тому +24

      I do believe the war would have been over and Avon would have came out with the victory!!!
      Stringer bell messed that up and here we are🤦🏽

    • @615outeast8
      @615outeast8 Рік тому +18

      Facts thts what ppl fail to realize Avon was fina make sure Marlo was gone personally and his crew is it wasn't for stringer snitch ass

    • @rdelacruz8949
      @rdelacruz8949 6 місяців тому +3

      That war could have gone either way. Avon had more muscle on the street. But Marlo had the more deadlier killers. Guys like Chris were more intelligent than Weebay as well. Avon had killers but they were mostly pawns who didn't do much thinking. On a chessboard Chris was more like a rook/bishop than a pawn. Avon was a better all around boss, but Marlo specialized in the murder game specifically. Plus he was young n hungry lion with nothing to lose. Chris would have been able to track down Avon, much easier than it would have been for one of Avons soldiers to track down Marlo.

  • @TexasTeaHTX
    @TexasTeaHTX Рік тому +147

    I appreciate what you do tremendously. You’re bringing life and new perspectives to shows I love.

    • @HARVEY_1988
      @HARVEY_1988 Рік тому +2

      👍🏾👍🏾

    • @diligentsun1154
      @diligentsun1154 Рік тому +2

      In a REAL Way!
      Well Done!

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim Рік тому +4

      I was always confused during this part of the story and now finally i get it. Damn i ain't got the street smarts

    • @marteljackson505
      @marteljackson505 Рік тому +1

      This is not your information coming from your experience in the street. You literally paraphrased the entire video from "a man's world"

  • @Kingjk24
    @Kingjk24 Рік тому +18

    “West side as as a glorified crew” that’s out of line 😂😂😂

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 6 місяців тому

      The most accurate description of street level drug rings there is. They only pretend they’re any sort of organized crime syndicates. Far too much back stabbing, snitching, jealousy and silly mistakes to ever make it out of the “hood” or to play in the big leagues.

  • @dogecoinbrothermouzone2500
    @dogecoinbrothermouzone2500 Рік тому +71

    SLIM CHARLES & AVON GELLED LIKE THEY KNEW EACH OTHER THEIR WHOLE LIVES IN SEASON THREE BECAUSE THEY BOTH KNOW & OVERSTAND THE RULES OF THE GAME , SLIM WAS BECOMING A BETTER #2 THAN STRINGER 💯🤞🏿

    • @antoniobaugh707
      @antoniobaugh707 11 місяців тому +11

      If they had weebey in season 3 they would have handled Marlo with slim charles

    • @rdelacruz8949
      @rdelacruz8949 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@antoniobaugh707 Loved Weebay but he wasn't as intelligent and calculated as Chris or Marlo

    • @ChrisThomas-hg4ne
      @ChrisThomas-hg4ne 13 днів тому

      @@rdelacruz8949that nigga was a certified hitter tho. They had a loyal crashout. You just tell him what to do and it’s done.

  • @teejaye6226
    @teejaye6226 Рік тому +41

    they didn't really kill wallace, through life-saving techniques, they moved him into a relatives house in pihily and he has grown up to be a boxing legend on his 3rd sequel.

  • @automaticmattywhack1470
    @automaticmattywhack1470 Рік тому +40

    All of your videos breaking down what was said, not said, done, and not done just shows how the writers of the Wire were phenomenal. Thanks for your videos! They're very well done and offer a great deal of insight into the show.

  • @jason15212
    @jason15212 Рік тому +23

    He made himself look guilty being overly concerned about what happened to Mouzone and whether or not he knew who shot him. Mouzone knew nobody in stringer/avon position would care what happened to him as long as their deal was tended too.

  • @ej11481
    @ej11481 Рік тому +91

    Stringer was too clever by half on several occasions, and he also rationalized his cowardice as superior wisdom. Avon saw through all of it, though he never suspected Stringer would go as far as to rat him and his crew out.

  • @LeekyXIV
    @LeekyXIV Рік тому +33

    Just watched this entire show in about two months. Cant believe this show didnt win more awards while airing. So many good scenes and character moments. So much forshadowing. Watching the show i always thought Stringer was a genius. But going back, his lack of street smart really killed him in the end

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 Рік тому +3

      It didn’t win any

    • @Pantsinabucket
      @Pantsinabucket 11 місяців тому +3

      It was up against Sopranos during almost its entire run, that’s why it didn’t win awards.

    • @4oclockHereHuhHUH
      @4oclockHereHuhHUH 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Pantsinabucketholds up better I’ll give it that

    • @rdelacruz8949
      @rdelacruz8949 6 місяців тому +2

      I'm in the same boat as you.. I thought Stringer was a highly intelligent man who was tryna take the game to the next level. Didn't catch on to how dumb he was until I watched the series a second/third time. Definitely the definition of too smart for his own good

    • @TwiceStruck
      @TwiceStruck 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@rdelacruz8949:-Stringer was smart, just book smart, Avon was street smart, its why together they rocked S1. Had Stringer backed Avon as he should, Marlo was finish, dude never saw Marlo for what he was, Avon figured Marlo out after Chris near took his head off.He knew what he was dealing and change his approach, he just had to many idiots who didn't follow orders making things complicated.

  • @keyhimself3542
    @keyhimself3542 Рік тому +19

    Brother:
    Them.
    Stringer:
    Them?
    Brother"
    Got em! HA!

  • @garyfrombrooklyn
    @garyfrombrooklyn Рік тому +20

    As soon as a saw this on my feed I said “this is gonna be good”. You did not disappoint. At the first watching, I was confused when Avon asked Stringer why he asked Mouzone how he was doing. Later on, I started to piece it together but this just brings fresh insight into an already spectacular show. Keep up the good work.

  • @pendekarmando1096
    @pendekarmando1096 Рік тому +10

    "A pygmy thing over in Baltimore!"
    I love this channel so much for bits like this

  • @kingdavid6535
    @kingdavid6535 Рік тому +17

    When someone you know doesn’t care about anyone asks you how you’re doing or is concerned for you, watch out!!!

  • @vladimirraphael444
    @vladimirraphael444 Рік тому +8

    If you could get back at Mouzone's attacker you wouldn't need him in the first place.

  • @kustomkure
    @kustomkure Рік тому +10

    Prop Joe with British accent turns into Proper Joe. And sounds beyond weird :)

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson2899 Рік тому +20

    I think you really hit the nail on the head in your deconstruction here. Nicely done!

  • @KtotheG
    @KtotheG Рік тому +12

    Avon was mad because Stringer was "trifling with Barksdale's reputation right here." Shout out to Slim Charles. His mistakes caused his empire to falter and lose ground.

  • @benjaminpeoples189
    @benjaminpeoples189 Рік тому +4

    Exactly! Why would he go to a hired enforcer and offer help saying “we got your back” like that? The sole reason why Brother Mouzone came all the way from New York in the first was to have their back in all reality!

  • @DonSeriously-is9lb
    @DonSeriously-is9lb 2 місяці тому +2

    You know the hospital scene here with Brother, kinda of mirrors a scene from The sopranos season 1. When Uncle Jr. and Livia visit Tony after there botched assassination attempt on Tony. And uncle June Scott says he’s got Mikey and his crew cracking heads to locate whoever did it. However, Tony and crew had an inkling it’s could be Mr magoo, same as brother’s intuition on stringer. Bottom line both perpetuators Showed their hand to To the ones they try to have killed… Gotta love that HBO writing

  • @Overlorddz
    @Overlorddz 10 місяців тому +3

    Funniest is when Avon has to remind Stringer that 'this ain't about your marketing class either'. Like he's his little annoying brother or something.

  • @fedorsynthman
    @fedorsynthman Рік тому +19

    My question is how Evon didn't know that Stringer made a deal with Joe to use 3 of the towers in exchange for the product. Even being in jail he could've heard about it. It's strange that he wasn't aware of it.

    • @soundshape6496
      @soundshape6496 Рік тому +3

      I wondered this as well.

    • @danielwong5378
      @danielwong5378 8 місяців тому

      That information was contained. Only a few knew about him working with Joe. If they were suspicious, they knew to mind their business. How did that elude you. It's obvious. That was an extremely stupid question you asked.

  • @redhoode.n.y.6314
    @redhoode.n.y.6314 9 днів тому +1

    "Why!!?"😳 perfect timing😂😂😂

  • @firegrillin365
    @firegrillin365 10 днів тому +2

    When he said Avon was absolved...
    While staring stringer in the face...
    Instead of saying You Guys are absolved...
    It was a wrap

  • @johnbronski
    @johnbronski Рік тому +7

    String-a-Bell remains me of my uncle. Real estate agent cons him into buy large farm in the middle of no place. 2 hour drive from the city in a small town where he is now the stranger. My uncle reasoning is , I have a big house, do you have a big house ?

    • @sigmalaflare
      @sigmalaflare Рік тому +1

      Damn, sounds like my brother.

    • @ZackZ-mg9uq
      @ZackZ-mg9uq Рік тому +1

      Uncles do be like dat sometime do'....My Unk was all mad n shit 1 time. I was like, why is you all mad n shit?....All he said was "sometimes it be like dat". Know wat I'm sayin

  • @Durandalski
    @Durandalski Рік тому +16

    The first time I watched season 3 I thought Stringer had the right idea and Avon couldn’t adapt, “just a gangster I s’pose.” But in hindsight Stringer was a terrible businessman out of his depth. He immediately lashed out with indiscriminate aggression and violence the moment his business moves didn’t work. He was aggressive toward Clay Davis and later tried to have him hit like he was just a corner dealer coming up short, unable to think through the game that was being played on him. But he also wasn’t tough enough and lacked respect for the rules to earn respect on the street. Stringer was never able to fully grasp either game, he was clever enough and charismatic enough to last awhile, but he inevitably overplayed his hand.

  • @ogrich1820
    @ogrich1820 Рік тому +5

    Yo this is the wildest most accurate breakdown I've ever seen!

  • @storysupport
    @storysupport 10 місяців тому +4

    It is HILARIOUS to hear this explained in this crazy accent, 20 years later 😂

  • @chickencharlie1992
    @chickencharlie1992 Рік тому +7

    I hope people who worked on the sopranos and the wire see and appreciate your channel

  • @Leonard_Washington76
    @Leonard_Washington76 Рік тому +8

    That barbershop scene was rather great acting

  • @danielwesterlund1905
    @danielwesterlund1905 Рік тому +9

    Despite Avon's suspicions, I think Stringer was cut out for the game. He just wasn't a King piece, he was more suited to carrying out Avon's orders than giving them himself. Wee-Bey would've done worse in Stringer's situation, but nobody would think to either question Bey's cred or put him in charge of the Barksdale Crew (even if he hadn't gone to jail). As Bunk said, "we all got roles to play."

    • @hruff7787
      @hruff7787 Рік тому +2

      He was good for accounting and finding ways to wash the money and that's where he should've remained while running the legit businesses

    • @hruff7787
      @hruff7787 Рік тому

      Beyond was straight muscle a battlefield commander not a decision maker.

    • @hruff7787
      @hruff7787 Рік тому

      Bey was straight muscle a battlefield commander not a decision maker.

  • @DrtyALGreen
    @DrtyALGreen Рік тому +9

    "Gimme a couple more pit beef samiches and I'll go a few more" Free Bei!!!

    • @juanquinlan1764
      @juanquinlan1764 Рік тому

      Bout the realest character on the show 💪🏿

  • @ghettogrinch6786
    @ghettogrinch6786 Рік тому +5

    Avon was on to Stringer from the gate! He knew the “ away games” was a signal of dissent. Avon’s love for Stringer is the ONLY reason he didn’t take him out a long time ago. I guess he was figuring no harm no foul as with his nephew. Avon’s hesitancy on not taking out Stringer earlier eventually came back to bite him. The Brother situation put Avons back against the wall as it was at this point he knew String was making moves without consulting him first, which is disrespectful to the King. Making such a move also showed Avon String was capable of anything, as we found out.

  • @anthonymalik9952
    @anthonymalik9952 Рік тому +5

    I want to congratulate you on another great video. Dissecting a minute yet profound moment that we don't pause to think of.

  • @pr0gressd
    @pr0gressd Рік тому +8

    7:30 "Stringer replies by starting a lector about market-based businesses".
    He's a funny guy that CineRanter

  • @coopersepulveda9872
    @coopersepulveda9872 10 місяців тому +2

    The scene where Stringer tells Avon about D'Angelo sums Stringer up beautifully. He says something like:
    "I see a Man without a country. Don't got the heart for this game right here but maybe, just MAAYBE, not smart enough for them out there".

  • @isiahsanders7466
    @isiahsanders7466 Рік тому +4

    Ahhhh yea one of my favorite scenes, thumbs up to the uploader. I say “why”like Avon to this day lmao

  • @keysun830
    @keysun830 Рік тому +3

    The way u said Dominican was crazyyyy lmao

  • @mickydem5920
    @mickydem5920 Рік тому +13

    That business course Stringer went on was the worst thing that happened to him

  • @erickennedy3322
    @erickennedy3322 Рік тому +13

    Avon got mad becuse he knew it was inside job , did not want find out.

    • @Void7.4.14
      @Void7.4.14 Рік тому +18

      No, fam. It was just the disrespect of asking a man like Brother something like that. It assumes he's weak and needs them cause he can't handle his own business.

    • @idkwhodidthis2990
      @idkwhodidthis2990 Рік тому +9

      You don't approach a man who's got more bodies than a Chinese cemetery, Prop Joe quote, if he's alright and you got his back. It's insulting to say the least. And wtf was Stringer doing at the hospital because Mouzone was hired by Avon. And clearly, Avon didn't send Stringer to the hospital. Stringer was there being the snake that he was and signed his own death warrant in that scene

    • @CREOLEHEAT
      @CREOLEHEAT Рік тому +9

      Avon was mad because it made him look shiesty & untrustworthy. Muzone is top level muscle. Someone whose rep is so solid his word alone could destroy a well respected king pin's rep. You don't hire someone to protect you & then offer your protection if something happens to them. That's an insult. Why hire them in the first place?

    • @erickennedy3322
      @erickennedy3322 Рік тому +3

      @@CREOLEHEAT Your right

    • @isiahsanders7466
      @isiahsanders7466 Рік тому +1

      He did not know fam, didn’t you pay attention to the video? 😂

  • @daryllndemmayah4874
    @daryllndemmayah4874 Рік тому +4

    You guys are forgetting one thing and it’s the biggest thing. Stringer might have been smart but he had no sense character. Which was his ultimate downfall,he wasn’t loyal to those around him to stay in his lane. He didn’t have the loyalty to himself and the patience to do things the right way and get out the game on good terms with those around him. His lack of character made him lose sight of his reality and lose support of those important to him like Avon. Who in the end decided his fate. If stringer had an ounce of character he would have never manipulated, lied and cheated those around him. Which would have allowed him to survive. If he had an ounce of character he would have stayed humble enough to understand he doesn’t know anything. His dreams and ambitions will take time for it to be done the right way. Things acquired and built fast don’t last that long.

    • @phalynwilliams4119
      @phalynwilliams4119 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes. Stringer also forgot he could not have had his high street status if it was not for his relationship with Avon who was the true king 👑 pen. Stringer also forgot or didn’t seem to realize that in the business world 🌎 relationships and reputation are important too. If business partners know that you are a retired drug dealer they are not going to respect you or your dirty money 💰. Stringer didn’t seem to understand that. Your reputation follows you regardless of who you do business with. Stringer also thought that he was smarter than the streets but he couldn’t see that he was being hustled with his straight business deals. Stringer was over his head. He was evil with no loyalty to anyone. He was a Marlo sort of character except Marlo was ruthless enough to do his own dirty work.

  • @Rucker1980
    @Rucker1980 7 місяців тому +1

    I love your seamless use of Sopranos terms in Wire videos

  • @kwazithabethe2186
    @kwazithabethe2186 Рік тому +8

    The 'glorified crew' & 'pigmy' comments just killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tee-starr1566
    @tee-starr1566 Рік тому +6

    Great video! 👍🏾 I was always under the impression that the meeting between Avon and Muzone was a planned meeting. I recall the barber saying something like, " yall say what you feel." the same way Prop Joe did when he arranged a meeting between Stringer and Omar but I could be wrong.

    • @TreWimsical
      @TreWimsical Рік тому +3

      If that meeting really was planned then why did Avon look so shook at the first sight of Mouzone? Buddy pretty much returned to Baltimore without prior notice

    • @tee-starr1566
      @tee-starr1566 Рік тому +3

      @Diante Wimes Well, for one thing.. Avon is always super cautious. He was the only customer in the barbershop because he would never sit in a barbershop with random customers, allowing anyone to just walk up on him. If the meeting wasn't planned, I don't think Muzone would have been allowed to enter the barbershop with Avon sitting there with a towel over his face making him vulnerable to an attack. Again, I could be wrong but that's my observation.

    • @0313981
      @0313981 Рік тому +6

      @@tee-starr1566 Your on point, Avon wasn’t shook in a scared way he was more shook in a surprised way. He more than likely knew Brother was coming but wasn’t expecting to take the towel off his face and see him standing there, it was more like a “when did you get here?” look instead of a scared one.

    • @mikimiyazaki
      @mikimiyazaki 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! Lol talk about not being able to read body language.​@@TreWimsical

  • @G0ldmoon
    @G0ldmoon Рік тому +37

    you re-framed the Avon/Stringer relationship for me. I always thought Avon wasn't growing into his role, and stringer was Trying and failing because he was being deceitful. but really Stringer was trying to change the "game" like a cog in the machine trying to turn against the machine and getting destroyed. I guess Stringers Charisma won me over.
    now I must start a re-watch and look again at the characters.

    • @HxH2011DRA
      @HxH2011DRA Рік тому +13

      It's so easy to want to like stringer. For me I was projecting what I would have done onto him thinking he was playing 5D chess until I realized "nope he's just dumb" (not that I'm smart mind you but you don't necessarily win at the game by being smart, look at Marlo XD)

    • @akubuirocharles3390
      @akubuirocharles3390 Рік тому +7

      @@HxH2011DRA he was playing Checkers in a Chess Game Honestly

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim Рік тому +2

      Yeah took me years to understand what's going on in the wire

    • @Trinbagodreamer
      @Trinbagodreamer Рік тому +16

      When I was younger, I simply thought that Stringer was the man, but the hood was just too ghetto to see the genius. Now, from an older lens, I see so many flaws in stringers thinking. The acting and the writing are just so good in this show.

    • @G0ldmoon
      @G0ldmoon Рік тому +5

      @@Trinbagodreamer hard agree, so many layers, each contradicting the previous. The characters you loved the first watch as strong, become weak, and the characters you hated because they were obstacles are the one who see things as they are. Bunk's dress down of Omar, when he was frustrated I think sum's it all up well.

  • @generalnsj
    @generalnsj 12 днів тому

    This was a prime example of the "other thing" in the game that Avon warned Stringer he knew nothing about in Season 3.

  • @bryancurry5472
    @bryancurry5472 Рік тому +1

    “Domonique-an”😂😂😂

  • @Damianoutlaw
    @Damianoutlaw Рік тому +30

    4:07. Yes!
    Please do a video devoted to an entire analysis on this scene. Its one of the great scenes of the Wire because of the ambiguity of how Brother Mouzone figures out who sets him up.
    This one scene has a major ripple effect on the entire series. This is the domino that leads to the destruction of the Barksdale organization.

    • @The_10th_Man
      @The_10th_Man Рік тому +1

      Mouzone figuring it out this way is fine but Stringer's surprised face and asking "them?" is weak writing. Stringer would know or could at least reasonably assume Omar might use at least 1 partner, since he has done exactly that many times. I have to call this a case of inorganic plot advancement. They do the same thing when they have Brianna figure out they had D'Angelo whacked in prison.

    • @wrecclessescobar6252
      @wrecclessescobar6252 10 місяців тому

      ​@@The_10th_Mani agree

    • @rdelacruz8949
      @rdelacruz8949 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@The_10th_ManYou couldn't be more wrong. This is exactly how high level law enforcement agents catch smart criminals slipping. It perfectly highlighted how much more intelligent Mouzone was than Stringer. This scene didn't exactly give Stringer away 100% but it made him a huge suspect. Which is why Mouzone still had to run down on Omar to get conformation later on in another episode

  • @lifeisa.smalllesson4607
    @lifeisa.smalllesson4607 Рік тому +4

    Stringer thought he was different from everyone else in the game w him.
    He thought he was smarter than everyone else.
    He was partially right, he was different....but not in the good or right way!

  • @RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA
    @RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA Рік тому +2

    It's a common thing i seen for years now..People that are educated(Book Smart)...but not Street Smart...And i continue to see it today..

  • @alarikaguilar7543
    @alarikaguilar7543 2 місяці тому +1

    7:11 “He couldn’t fucking sell it. He’s not respected.”

  • @bryantcruel4987
    @bryantcruel4987 Рік тому +4

    One of the best things about The Wire is that is makes you work. On the surface String seems very intelligent but in truth he’s just the opposite.

  • @wesmiller4880
    @wesmiller4880 Рік тому +1

    That pygmy thing in Baltimore!😂...Sopranos! That was a good one

  • @willclegg5589
    @willclegg5589 Рік тому +12

    Your videos on the Wire are the best out there man, the detail on the different perspectives and scenarios around every incident is quality
    Have you ever thought about doing a video on Cutty? Maybe what he was like before and what might've happened if he never opened the gym?

  • @tommyshelby8373
    @tommyshelby8373 Рік тому +8

    “The game is the game baby” Stringer couldn’t understand that.

  • @caseycameron5370
    @caseycameron5370 Рік тому +2

    Never knew Jordan Poole was in the wire 🤣🤣

  • @daevonthesavage7483
    @daevonthesavage7483 Місяць тому

    6:00
    *"YO, How TF is OrLANdo gonna front this type of cash!?!?"*
    🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @YackaSleep
    @YackaSleep Рік тому +17

    That’s my only gripe with the writing. It didn’t feel like Avon and String came up together. Avon had to check him too many times at such late ages. It felt more like String was hired and brought in after Avon was King, then they became close friends. I know it was done on purpose cuz they wanted to show off Avon’s street knowledge and String was the person he talked to most but they didn’t feel like day ones.

    • @coolpeople4287
      @coolpeople4287 Рік тому +5

      I doubt if Stringer even came from the hood at all. How could he not know about the " Never On Sunday" rule? C-mon man!

    • @jamesw7072
      @jamesw7072 Рік тому +13

      I think the thing is that Stringer changed as he got older, may it be better or worse he got more business minded and abandoned street ideology. This is what many accuse Jay Z of, started from the streets then turned into a backstabbing business man snake.

    • @rouskeycarpel1436
      @rouskeycarpel1436 Рік тому +15

      @@coolpeople4287 He did know about the rule;he didn’t care.

    • @slimetime3270
      @slimetime3270 Рік тому +9

      Stringer was one of those dudes who’s from the hood but wasn’t really hands on with many of the street dealings. Like that dude that nice in ball or super smart in the hood, people tend to tell them “nah you not doing this, you gone make it out of here” Stringer looks like he was one of those dudes but came and proposed the legal side of things to Avon and that’s what got him his told one the organization. LOGISTICS, just oversee the business and make sure the money is right and the legal money doing what it’s suppose to do

    • @davidlinden2370
      @davidlinden2370 Рік тому

      @@jamesw7072 lol turned into a “backstabbing business man” if the wire taught me anything is that the “street ideology” is full of back stabbers and people who will do anything to gain power. No honor among thieves

  • @thetalkingdrumcafe8937
    @thetalkingdrumcafe8937 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow. What brilliant analysis. So on point.

  • @VoltitanDev
    @VoltitanDev Рік тому +2

    My thought on Stringer is a pretentious backstabber who has good ideas but poor execution betraying Brother Mozuoune and visiting him is another nail in his coffin.

  • @100barbelve
    @100barbelve Рік тому +1

    "I dont care how he gon' be, man...." 😂😂😂

  • @bobbyjones3351
    @bobbyjones3351 Рік тому +2

    love the driving analogy really helps simplify the scene

  • @aaronflowers8881
    @aaronflowers8881 9 місяців тому

    I am absolutely loving these breakdowns. They're so deep and intelligent. The Wire was brilliant.

  • @the_sorcerer
    @the_sorcerer Рік тому +2

    He tried to be a soulless corporation when the streets got code, honor [depends who you ask], and rules

  • @coolpapab
    @coolpapab Рік тому +3

    Stringer didn't quite understand street etiquette. And that was his biggest problem. He wanted to run the Barksdale organization like a Fortune 500 company. Some real world business strategies does work for a criminal organization/gangster. But at the very essence, this is a gangster org. and certain things will always be connected to the street and their gangster code.

  • @precisiongrindin1848
    @precisiongrindin1848 7 днів тому

    Stringer wasn't supposed to let brother leave that hospital alive.

  • @chuck6033
    @chuck6033 Рік тому +1

    The only scene more satisfying than the scene where Stringer Bell gets it is when Slim Charles lays that back stabbing clown Cheese down on the dirty Baltimore ground doing the Harlem Shake.

  • @CplBaker
    @CplBaker Рік тому +1

    Great now I have to watch this again.

  • @herewegoagain4041
    @herewegoagain4041 2 місяці тому

    "Them" is singular and plural based on vocal inflection. Mouzone said "them" open form fishing hook bait. Stringer said "them" plural form.

  • @seanyoung9014
    @seanyoung9014 Рік тому +3

    One of my gripes about this otherwise phenomenal show was the fact that Stringer was the number 2 guy in the organization. In real life, he would've spun off to make legitimate money for funneling back to the organization. He would've NEVER been running the day to day business, idgaf how smart he was. As soon as Avon and Wee Bey went down, Slim Charles would've been running things on the street while Avon stayed in charge from prison. On an unrelated note, it's also highly unrealistic that Marlo survived beyond season 4 but that's another conversation.

    • @roderickstockdale1678
      @roderickstockdale1678 Рік тому

      Season 4 was when Avon was in jail and Stringer was dead which left Marlo free to take over the west side and Bodie left alone to be a free agent until Marlo forced him to join up. Otherwise why else would Slim have been with Joe?

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 Рік тому +5

      @@roderickstockdale1678 I know that. I'm saying in real life it wouldn't have happened like that. Don't get me started on how stupid it was that all the other dealers had zero muscle and let Marlo take over everything with like five soldiers and then kick them out of a co-op they invited him to when they didn't even need to do that. IRL, Marlo dies right after he attacks Avon.

    • @roderickstockdale1678
      @roderickstockdale1678 Рік тому +1

      @@seanyoung9014 also it seemed like Marlo was the only “kingpin” on west side and everybody else was from east side and everybody on west side simply served or bowed to him.

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 Рік тому +2

      @@roderickstockdale1678 Yeah that also made no sense but I understand why they did it that way. My uncle was a detective for many years in PG County, Maryland and knew lots of the guys who did consulting on The Wire. He told me a few years ago that they had originally planned for more dealers after Avon went down but thought it would be confusing for audiences not used to that world.

    • @roderickstockdale1678
      @roderickstockdale1678 Рік тому +2

      @@seanyoung9014 yeah I’m out Montgomery county and I know a few of them are originally from the DC area such as Tray Chaney and Anwan Glover, former dealer from DC. Tray Chaney’s originally from PG.

  • @PhantomEchoes9027
    @PhantomEchoes9027 Рік тому +1

    Stringer Bell was a classic case of just because you hang in the streets doesn't mean you know the streets

  • @jasminehill6312
    @jasminehill6312 Рік тому +3

    Great analysis! I didn’t get it the first few times that I watched it so when I got my mom to watch, she had to explain this scene to me 😉

  • @jayrock2288
    @jayrock2288 Рік тому +3

    Avon knows the game is the game and a man like brother knows that too, if he wants help he would ask for it

  • @Routing_for_sanity
    @Routing_for_sanity 2 місяці тому

    👏 good break down. The wire is one of my top all time shows aside the sopranos breaking bad and showtimes the corner.

  • @HaroldtheDon
    @HaroldtheDon 9 місяців тому +1

    You should make a video on Orlando being stupid for trying to get D to go in a deal behind Avon's back

  • @hardybryan
    @hardybryan Рік тому +2

    In the end, Stringer and Avon had different goals and that was inevitably going to fuck everything up. When Stringer was content playing #2, he did it extremely well. It was when he got a taste of true leadership that he went off the reservation thinking he could change the game. Meanwhile, if Avon hadn't cared about maintaining his crown and would have been content being filthy rich, and acting as the bank, they could have made that happen. Had Avon agreed to the arrangement with Joe from the jump, they could have just sat back and slowly but surely insulated themselves more and more from the streets. But as Avon said, he's "just a gangsta, I suppose." One had a vision too grand to realize. That kind of control doesn't exist, even to a street king, a role Stringer was trying to get away from. The other's vision was so narrow he couldn't see anything but how the game has always been. Meanwhile, Marlo has no respect for the game, business or tradition and wipes out everyone because they were getting too comfortable straddling the streets and the 'legitimate' worlds.

  • @egillskallagrimson5879
    @egillskallagrimson5879 Рік тому

    Excellent video, straight to the point doing the recap and a wonderful exposition.

  • @TheShahofBaltimore
    @TheShahofBaltimore 7 місяців тому +1

    Thought you were gonna post more THE WIRE stuff 😔 🥺😮

  • @M_Lev
    @M_Lev Рік тому +1

    Loved the sopranos reference. You're one of my favorite channels

  • @Brandon-co3he
    @Brandon-co3he Рік тому +1

    before the video even starts. i watched the scene again since i’m rewatching the show like yesterday and noticed stringer should’ve never asked that

  • @jayday1503
    @jayday1503 2 місяці тому

    Tremendous difference between booksmart and streetsmart

  • @rayraysgarden
    @rayraysgarden 18 днів тому

    I LOVED Stringer in this series. I do think though that his skills sets didn't match his job in the Avon crew. This is a great example of quality writing a character as it was hard for me to root for Stringer to 'win' even though I liked him so much. Good stuff!

  • @benjaminbell4994
    @benjaminbell4994 3 місяці тому

    I’m ngl it cracks me up to hear people who never step foot in the hood talk about it like that know about the game when everything they know comes from research or movies it’s most definitely not from experience

    • @OnYourSquare
      @OnYourSquare 2 місяці тому

      That's ignorant.
      Do you need to be world class basketball player to explain what's happening on the basketball court.
      Do you need to be a superhero to understand what's going on in The Avengers!?

  • @lambros3652
    @lambros3652 Рік тому +1

    Great breakdown of all the subtly and nuance of this episode. Easily some of the best scenes in one of my favorite shows. Could have made a whole series analysis out of these few lines of dialogue. 👍👏👏

  • @racingwithnogas
    @racingwithnogas Рік тому +1

    Stringer: I want to be the boss and I want you to see me bossing.
    Avon: I'm the boss. My muscle will show you.
    Being the front face ain't all that it's cracked up to be.

  • @najisayeed2082
    @najisayeed2082 2 місяці тому

    Very good analysis on this scene.

  • @PhilP8980
    @PhilP8980 Рік тому +1

    Cuz he knows Mouzone doesn't need any help from Stringer, and he's mad that he lost Brother Mouzone to protect his territory.

  • @ax23mgh8
    @ax23mgh8 2 дні тому

    -Who came at you?
    -That boy who go by the name "Deez"

  • @Alexa2z
    @Alexa2z Рік тому +5

    This guy is better than any soprano theories or wire analysis videos anywhere.
    I wish he was picked for the talking sopranos guest episode instead of that animal I can’t even say his name… no scraps in my scrapbook