I'd say yes and no. He has the form of Battler, but it's not Battler. Think of it as someone that has a 180º turn personality from the original person, who's sole role in the tale is to brutally murder everyone, cause dispair, suffering and madness within the catbox. How insane am I talking about? In the tip ''Forgery number XXX'' he goes into detail of how he would cause as much dispair as possible, like blowing his Father's head off or killing shannon infront of George. He is a good man.
@FFandMMfan Actually, it was extremely effective seeing as the AI nearly always guard touches it, and you can't be counter-combo'd as he gets knocked down by the guard switch. It effectively forces the AI to not be able to counter combo him later. And as many people pointed out here.. there's a ton of AI exploits, particularly with Jessica's 5B having such a long reach that the AI often thinks it's going to miss, and attempts to counter you... only to get countered itself.
Essentially yes, Princess Mode is an easier way to play the game, and has combos already programmed into a more easier playstyle, albeit with less damage capability, and easier combos compared to Normal Mode.
Actually low guarding his punches and countering is some kind of AI exploit, he/she did that frecuently but he/she managed to defeat the goddamn Black Battle anyways, that's a great feat I did it once but only for the second round, I lost the 1st and 3rd :p
@OmegaRayblade This person has the right idea. In this fight you are fighting with all the odds stacked against you. Not only he has the upper hand with SP (starting full SP) but also with abilities and their boosted duration/effects. I will probably make a video in the future about the entire thing, maybe after Bern and Lambda come out at the end of this month.
Basically. The people of the future liked cooking up theories with Battler as the centerstage culprit (read: we like to), and it eventually became so strong it gained form, something like what EVA-Beatrice is to Eva, a being embodying the Battler (and to a lesser extent, his family) culprit theory seeking to paint over the truth with it.
Well, considering that you have to do that to go through his Auto guard, yeah we can call it an AI exploit. Then again, AIs normally don't have 9 other abilities with them always active.
What Dice12k said, but you can also try to hit him when he does a fireball; dash up to him and poke jJUST after he pulls his hand back, most characters won't get hit by the fireball as long as you're dashing. If he does 214A, neutral jump and try to punish him when he recovers. Don't attack until his hand is gone, but if you get hit before then that's okay too.
@platefork He has lucifer's ability, which lets you touch when in a waiting state. Permanently. Yeah, that gauge don't mean squat. Also, I did notice the autoguard opens up to jessica's normals relatively well. I just find it bogus how autoguard actually forces a guard when it's impossible - completely skips cancelling a dash straight for a block. Without that, fullscreen baiting would wreck this guy.
You don't suppose there are other bosses or boss versions of characters? Be kinda cool if they had special challenges similar to Guilty Gear like Battler vs Boss Beatrice (infinite SP on permanently)
@FFandMMfan I think he was intentionally doing that to get the computer to knock him away so he wouldn't get combo'd to death when the opponent got back up.
The video by KyoAlexial? In that one he says "This is strange... My arms... my legs... listen to what I'm saying..." followed by his usual odd laughter.
Don't know why everyone is bitching about AI exploits. Of course, to fight an overpowered monster such as this you have to develop a strategy or some combo which puts you into an advantageous position, have hands straight enough to take advantage of AI's faults and quite a bit of luck. That's how any battle with superior opponent should be. Beginning quote: "The culprit cannot die." Seems to be the rule from Umineko chapter 8. Ending: "Hahaha... I'm grateful... I've been released...". Cool BGM.
Well, AI Exploit, is the fact if you don't attack first, his attacks aren't that dangerous. Also, since he counters, using an attack with low cooldown can provoke him into counterattacking you, which depending on the move he uses to counterattack it gives you an opening.
At this point, calling what he did an exploit would only be splitting hairs. Here, he just punishes B, Battler's 2C with Jessica's 5B, which is one of the best pokes in the game. Other exploits include baiting him into jumping, and if you're fast, punishing his fireball by dashing and poking and his 214A by neutral jumping. Even then, is it right to call them exploits? Those are literally the only times you can hit him without him using Guard Touch or punishing you.
It could be more or less called an exploit, since Autoguard makes it so that frame disadvantage essentially does not exist for this boss. The AI *should* be able to block the returns from Jess, as far as I can tell. But it habitually does something else that lowers his defense and gives jess a free counterhit. His wakeup behavior is pretty predictable too - it's possible to give inputs that make him backdash on wakeup in the corner 100% of the time, giving you a free dlanor grab. Silly boss.
Thanks! As you know, there's another video that shows B.Battler being defeated. Can you translate what he says after he loses there too? :D? Thanks in advance!
The melody that starts around 0:06 is The First and the Last. I don't know about the guitar though, it may be an Ougon-exclusive version of it edit: found it ua-cam.com/video/6go8wsP90vE/v-deo.html
![[PS4] 黄金夢想曲CROSS ストーリーモードまとめ 3](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8QAAfB_kX54/mqdefault.jpg)
It just struck me that B.battlers alternate outfit makes him look EXACTLY like toya.
@diexz If we had Featherine in this game, there'd be no hope of winning...
She'd just pause time and give you two LOSES screens.
"The criminal can't die."
You end up killing Battler anyways. Does this mean a breach in the game board's rules?
I'd say yes and no. He has the form of Battler, but it's not Battler. Think of it as someone that has a 180º turn personality from the original person, who's sole role in the tale is to brutally murder everyone, cause dispair, suffering and madness within the catbox.
How insane am I talking about? In the tip ''Forgery number XXX'' he goes into detail of how he would cause as much dispair as possible, like blowing his Father's head off or killing shannon infront of George.
He is a good man.
That SP2 + META is devastating.
THIS guy is the hardest fighting game boss I’ve seen,next to General and Parace L’sia!
No AI exploit nor cheating device. A true gentleman of the game.
Props to him for being first, but the race is still on!
I prefer this look of Black Battler than the sprite in the PS3 version
@FFandMMfan Actually, it was extremely effective seeing as the AI nearly always guard touches it, and you can't be counter-combo'd as he gets knocked down by the guard switch. It effectively forces the AI to not be able to counter combo him later.
And as many people pointed out here.. there's a ton of AI exploits, particularly with Jessica's 5B having such a long reach that the AI often thinks it's going to miss, and attempts to counter you... only to get countered itself.
Essentially yes, Princess Mode is an easier way to play the game, and has combos already programmed into a more easier playstyle, albeit with less damage capability, and easier combos compared to Normal Mode.
The culprit is right there, you need to connect things and you will reach the true culprit of the tale.
Actually low guarding his punches and countering is some kind of AI exploit, he/she did that frecuently
but he/she managed to defeat the goddamn Black Battle anyways, that's a great feat
I did it once but only for the second round, I lost the 1st and 3rd :p
Miguel Angel well spotted, I think I saw a projectile A.I. flaw with Benkastel or Lambdadelta
Dude holy fuck B. Battler regenerates so quickly.
@OmegaRayblade This person has the right idea. In this fight you are fighting with all the odds stacked against you. Not only he has the upper hand with SP (starting full SP) but also with abilities and their boosted duration/effects.
I will probably make a video in the future about the entire thing, maybe after Bern and Lambda come out at the end of this month.
@diexz Now your encouraging more SNK Boss Syndrome..... Featherine would be like God Orochi + B. Battler + some ZA WARUDO ability
Basically.
The people of the future liked cooking up theories with Battler as the centerstage culprit (read: we like to),
and it eventually became so strong it gained form, something like what EVA-Beatrice is to Eva, a being embodying the Battler (and to a lesser extent, his family) culprit theory seeking to paint over the truth with it.
another game we will NEVER see state side much less on the Xbox.
Guess again YEAH VERY GOOD
Umineko Gold on Switch lets gooo~!
We can finally have this game on more consoles :D
He has a few different things he says when defeated, but this time around he said "I'm grateful... with this, I am freed."
@Viuki97 A single CG image, probably done since beating him is really difficult,
so they didn't want to make it any game changing unlock.
Well, considering that you have to do that to go through his Auto guard, yeah we can call it an AI exploit.
Then again, AIs normally don't have 9 other abilities with them always active.
It's called ''Dyed in golden blood'', AKA Ougon Musou Kyoku's opening song.
@AndikaBramantio CG congratulating you for defeating him. Pretty cool one as well.
@AkumetsuLord 1:01 Observe the cheapness.
Guess it's the mixture of Massacre and the stacked damage buffs that results in such a huge gain.
What Dice12k said, but you can also try to hit him when he does a fireball; dash up to him and poke jJUST after he pulls his hand back, most characters won't get hit by the fireball as long as you're dashing. If he does 214A, neutral jump and try to punish him when he recovers. Don't attack until his hand is gone, but if you get hit before then that's okay too.
the funny part is Beatrice's furniture running over B Battler and Battler parents shooting that give the power of Parents
@platefork He has lucifer's ability, which lets you touch when in a waiting state. Permanently. Yeah, that gauge don't mean squat. Also, I did notice the autoguard opens up to jessica's normals relatively well. I just find it bogus how autoguard actually forces a guard when it's impossible - completely skips cancelling a dash straight for a block. Without that, fullscreen baiting would wreck this guy.
You don't suppose there are other bosses or boss versions of characters? Be kinda cool if they had special challenges similar to Guilty Gear like Battler vs Boss Beatrice (infinite SP on permanently)
That's how it usually goes with bosses that have a certain amount of buffs.
@FFandMMfan I think he was intentionally doing that to get the computer to knock him away so he wouldn't get combo'd to death when the opponent got back up.
I LOL'd at the goatmen running... XD
Good thought. Also, could be Bern&Lambda or Bern&Featherinne. However, Featherinne could be only CPU could play with Featherinne.
@AndikaBramantio
You get an autographed poster of Black Battler singed by Ryukishi07th.
I wish...
The video by KyoAlexial? In that one he says "This is strange... My arms... my legs... listen to what I'm saying..." followed by his usual odd laughter.
I like how he kept trying to do that overhead with Jessica and it never worked.
Don't know why everyone is bitching about AI exploits. Of course, to fight an overpowered monster such as this you have to develop a strategy or some combo which puts you into an advantageous position, have hands straight enough to take advantage of AI's faults and quite a bit of luck. That's how any battle with superior opponent should be.
Beginning quote: "The culprit cannot die." Seems to be the rule from Umineko chapter 8.
Ending: "Hahaha... I'm grateful... I've been released...". Cool BGM.
The word "overpowered" was personified.
I'm kinda hoping that Bern will become a possible boss like him that you can get instead under the right circumstances.
0:49
even though he was in freaking waiting state, he could perform a touch
that's cheap as hell
I can't tell you, you have to arrive to the answer by your own.
._.;
quite amazing
good job doesn't even being how well that was. xO
@YosugaNoSora1 Ah, no, I'm just the messenger, see the description.
Well, AI Exploit, is the fact if you don't attack first, his attacks aren't that dangerous. Also, since he counters, using an attack with low cooldown can provoke him into counterattacking you, which depending on the move he uses to counterattack it gives you an opening.
What do you get after beating him? A t-shirt? A free mug? Jokes aside, what do you actually get?
Nope, this pairing is the main antagonist of the expansion.
@theIEndYOU Let's just leave it at Bern and Lambda. Featherine is just overkill.
@Prototype9091 Thank you~
At this point, calling what he did an exploit would only be splitting hairs. Here, he just punishes B, Battler's 2C with Jessica's 5B, which is one of the best pokes in the game.
Other exploits include baiting him into jumping, and if you're fast, punishing his fireball by dashing and poking and his 214A by neutral jumping. Even then, is it right to call them exploits? Those are literally the only times you can hit him without him using Guard Touch or punishing you.
The game actually going to steam
Yuuki Terumi Cool!When?
shoryuken.com/2016/10/02/mangagamer-announces-their-localization-of-golden-fantasia-cross-for-steam/
It could be more or less called an exploit, since Autoguard makes it so that frame disadvantage essentially does not exist for this boss. The AI *should* be able to block the returns from Jess, as far as I can tell. But it habitually does something else that lowers his defense and gives jess a free counterhit. His wakeup behavior is pretty predictable too - it's possible to give inputs that make him backdash on wakeup in the corner 100% of the time, giving you a free dlanor grab. Silly boss.
Dat Bread and Butter....
@CrimsonMoonM Oh my GOD!
Wow that Last match, that was real close. I didn't know his life regenerates...so lame D;
@Nanashi1337 Nah, doing that is just called not being suicidal. He'd wipe you right out if you charged him blindly.
he does the same pattern of moves to kill B.Battler o.o
Yes ;all images in gallery mode
@DimitriLionheart Beat hard without using a continue,
he'll then challenge you after the final fight.
IMPOSSIBLE!
...It's...
IT MUST HAVE BEEN DONE BY A WITCH! *panic*
Thanks!
As you know, there's another video that shows B.Battler being defeated. Can you translate what he says after he loses there too? :D?
Thanks in advance!
Well, for a evil copy of mine he does pretty well, but not well enough.
My game only has arcade and versus mode
yes that one.
Thanks again!
3:39 3:41, that akward moment when event the AI doesnt know what to do
What is the ost wich plays in the Jessica vs Black battler fight?
That Grab from round 3 they use appears to be total bullshit.
I cant even damage 1/10 of the yellow bar :(
I'm getting my ass kicked so bad by Black Battler X2
you win and what is your premium?
Lots of AI exploits in here, actually.
You are the fucking master dude D:.
Is B.Battler suppose to be him if he was the culprit?
How do I do this fight? Do I have to get al the possible endings first?
is there a full version of the song that plays from the beginning till 0:16
The melody that starts around 0:06 is The First and the Last. I don't know about the guitar though, it may be an Ougon-exclusive version of it
edit: found it ua-cam.com/video/6go8wsP90vE/v-deo.html
Does anyone know what he says when you beat him? @.@;
And do you win something after beating him ?
Can anyone help me? i downloaded the torrent, downloaded the set up, but when I do play it theres nothing but a black screen!
go on igg-games.com
Your skill level... ;A;
I had fought B. Battler for more than ten times, and always fail. Can you give me tips to beat him?
what does have to do mlp with OMK cros? i mean, look at the right of the comments xdxd
About beating hard without a continue, doesn't B.Battler need to be a member of your party?
Did that change or something? @.@;
Do you actually use a controller for this?
Because I use a keyboard an man are the meta finishers hard to pull in normal mode.
Ghosting?
PC.
*want
Fucking painful to watch
I saint this game!But what is the platform please ?
PC
Now the question is: is Black Battler defeatable in Princess Mode?
SoulCrusher209 Yes. Ive seen it.
meaning? Please tell/give link... cause if so he might be higher on my hardest fighting game bosses list
pick beato, its an absolutely win
(to guy who recorded)
WHAT'S YOUR ORDER MY LORD