Crazy video! Kudos for making it. It is so hard to give any thought about it as you said, it depends on what the goal, budget and situation is. Every ship tier has their pros and cons. For very new players just sticking to the "Board my Corvette" in Station with an empty pod and explore for a couple hours to days or maybe even weeks might be good. All crucial non-combat mechanics like navigating thorough all securities of space can be learned without putting isk on the line. dscan, bookmarking (safes, perches, insta-dock and insta-undock), map stats, zkillboard checks and many more. After that really only one S+ guideline applies: "Fly what you can afford to lose *and more importantly don't rage quit over."* Which is different for everyone.
I will say that one thing being left off the list that should be considered is damage type. Lasers are always below Projectile turrets or Missiles because you are only ever getting EM and Thermal out of a laser limiting how easily some things come down to doing.
I love my cheetah lol. I also like the astero, despite it being worse at scanning/hacking and more expensive the ability to gank other explorers/miners is awesome.
The Vexor is a ship that most people flew back in the day, somewhere between a Tristan & an Ishtar. It's probably still in their hold somewhere, gathering dust after they graduated to something better. I have 6 or so, as backups in case something goes sideways.
awesome list! great work as always Loru! I personally like the Loki, but I do agree that T3 cruisers are S tier in general. Great information Sir! I really got some good ideas for ships to try to get into going forward.
Nice vid, would like to see an alpha only ship list like this, but not only regarding certain online lists, but in your own experience and of those around you maybe...if there is not one already that is...
So while i found it a bit intresting.... maybe you should have explained doctrine for current A. HS group running Lvl 4 and DEDs - Palladins, and Tengus for LS esclations B. LS group running a gate camp and LS warfare - Faction frigs and Gnosis. C. NS group reacting to someone stealing an ESS. - Vargur and Malidiction D. NS group hunting other NS group. - Redemer and Marshal, Dictors, Harpies E. WH group hunting the wh chain. - Scanning frig with combats, Dictors, Munnin, F. WH group fighting another wh group. Vindi, Leshak, Bhaalgorn, and or if its a pulsar Nighthawks G.WH group farming. Marauders or Dreads. I think training for a ship that helps your Corp is more benificial than blindly training for something that looks cool.
I do ghost sites in my gila. No fear of dropping below half shield. Good skills I've hacked 4 boxes in it. MWD, 3 large extenders, hardener, data analyzer. Then immediately fly a 4/10. It will die to T3C 90% of the time tho, so just dont bring to low/null for strictly pve
Writing this as the starting AD plays, before the video begins. Loru vid, at one HR +? Sign me the fuck up. I could listen to you mate no matter what you're talking about. Now, what is this video even ABOUT?? :D
@Loru i give this video a firstclass S ranking. well done. and some of the comments viewers made in live chat was really great.. just one Queston for you @Loru are you doing a live vid on christmas.?
I give your comment a S+ haha, thanks so much for the kind words o7 We will have streams close to Christmas, but most likely not on the day. I will be with family :D
The thing I hate is when people say "I must fly this" and "I must fly that". Thats cool if you want to fly them. I'll continue to fly what I want to and not be swayed by the opinions of others. Otherwise CCP wouldnt have given us the option of choosing any of the 300+ ships available.
@@lorumerthgaming It's a Mexican Spanish word. It's pronounced "HEE-lah", I'm telling you. Gila Monster, Gila City, Arizona, Gila County, AZ. ALL "HEE-lah"..
@Bearak_ I understand you but you dont understand me, also in spanish J is H pron. It should not be in this form in EN client. Similar with triglavian space and ships. Ccp should fix that. Meanwhile let ppl call it whatever thay feel. And I'm slav to be mentioned but throwing letter G infront of someone who speak english is "gee" by default.
Boaa man, you got to chill a bit. I am, as most eve players, well over 30 and you act like the 15 year old kid telling the newest stories from fortnite. The topic is good and interesting... But chill man chill.. ok from the middle of three vid you did a bit
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The best ship in eve is friendship. Hands down can never lose
1000000% correct
Nope... scripts are
Crazy video! Kudos for making it. It is so hard to give any thought about it as you said, it depends on what the goal, budget and situation is. Every ship tier has their pros and cons. For very new players just sticking to the "Board my Corvette" in Station with an empty pod and explore for a couple hours to days or maybe even weeks might be good. All crucial non-combat mechanics like navigating thorough all securities of space can be learned without putting isk on the line. dscan, bookmarking (safes, perches, insta-dock and insta-undock), map stats, zkillboard checks and many more. After that really only one S+ guideline applies: "Fly what you can afford to lose *and more importantly don't rage quit over."* Which is different for everyone.
def hard, and some great points!!
I still love the description when you pull up the Drake.
"It has been brought." - Unknown Caldari Pilot
truly correct
I will say that one thing being left off the list that should be considered is damage type. Lasers are always below Projectile turrets or Missiles because you are only ever getting EM and Thermal out of a laser limiting how easily some things come down to doing.
sounds like we need a weapon tier list :O
@lorumerthgaming That would actually be amazing, then I could stop having to explain to my friends what weapons are good and bad lol
@@lorumerthgaming awesome. Weapons tier would be great!!
Heron is S tier. It's the most profitable ship. Throwaway ship that prints ISK. One good run buys 10 fully fitted ships. Just saying.
I think the Probe ist better 😊
Boom huge True
I love my cheetah lol. I also like the astero, despite it being worse at scanning/hacking and more expensive the ability to gank other explorers/miners is awesome.
The Vexor is a ship that most people flew back in the day, somewhere between a Tristan & an Ishtar. It's probably still in their hold somewhere, gathering dust after they graduated to something better.
I have 6 or so, as backups in case something goes sideways.
fair enough
awesome list! great work as always Loru! I personally like the Loki, but I do agree that T3 cruisers are S tier in general. Great information Sir! I really got some good ideas for ships to try to get into going forward.
super agree, glad you enjoyed!!
Nice vid, would like to see an alpha only ship list like this, but not only regarding certain online lists, but in your own experience and of those around you maybe...if there is not one already that is...
a GREAT idea
I watched this live and I’m still going to watch this I love your content mate 🫡
MY MAN
So while i found it a bit intresting.... maybe you should have explained doctrine for current
A. HS group running Lvl 4 and DEDs - Palladins, and Tengus for LS esclations
B. LS group running a gate camp and LS warfare - Faction frigs and Gnosis.
C. NS group reacting to someone stealing an ESS. - Vargur and Malidiction
D. NS group hunting other NS group. - Redemer and Marshal, Dictors, Harpies
E. WH group hunting the wh chain. - Scanning frig with combats, Dictors, Munnin,
F. WH group fighting another wh group. Vindi, Leshak, Bhaalgorn, and or if its a pulsar Nighthawks
G.WH group farming. Marauders or Dreads.
I think training for a ship that helps your Corp is more benificial than blindly training for something that looks cool.
great ideas!!
LOVE THIS eve player since 2009
glad you did
Ahhh the vindi miss my days of X up for DDD (drone bunny) duty call her The pride of Serpentis Warp to me was fire back then
yessir!!!
I find Catalyst is best cheap PVE Salvager ship. Every player should use even if they aren't ganking. S tier.
What tier is Coercer?
huge agree
End game players hehe, it never ends! This end game player still has many pvp vexors itching to fight! Fun video!
more vexors the better
Battle Orca!!!! We all need one😂😂😂😂
we really do
@ imagine 2 battle Orcas buffing, some aux to keep them alive and 100 Battle-Ventures jumping into a real sub cap fight😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do ghost sites in my gila. No fear of dropping below half shield. Good skills I've hacked 4 boxes in it. MWD, 3 large extenders, hardener, data analyzer. Then immediately fly a 4/10. It will die to T3C 90% of the time tho, so just dont bring to low/null for strictly pve
Great points
Writing this as the starting AD plays, before the video begins. Loru vid, at one HR +? Sign me the fuck up. I could listen to you mate no matter what you're talking about. Now, what is this video even ABOUT?? :D
you'll see >:)
Ishtar blows the Drake away.
just might
@Loru i give this video a firstclass S ranking. well done. and some of the comments viewers made in live chat was really great.. just one Queston for you @Loru are you doing a live vid on christmas.?
I give your comment a S+ haha, thanks so much for the kind words o7
We will have streams close to Christmas, but most likely not on the day. I will be with family :D
Nice vid man!
ty fam
How about rifter, thrasher or stubber?
Soon
love the tengu man
Same
The Tristan wants to be an Astero when it grows up.
THAT'S.... entirely accurate
Just started the vid, but I was actually thinking this was a good idea for one a week ago.
enjoy it!!
9 mins in, please bring back you usual background music! It is part of your brand as far as I am concerned.... Everything else, spot on so far!
Yup seconded. Bring back old soundtrack lorumirth patented 😅
Haha i hear you. Stream vids have their own background music (from stream)! We will see ;)
You sold me on the Astero!
best alpha ship is worm hands down!
Might agree
Stratios is S tier.
might be
Thanks Loru o7
no, thank YOU
can i bring my draaaaaaake lol that got me. iykyk
😌😌😌
lets do a tristan fleet
i'm in
NO RAPTOR ON THE LIST???? OUTRAGEOUS!
CRAZY AMIRITE
The thing I hate is when people say "I must fly this" and "I must fly that".
Thats cool if you want to fly them. I'll continue to fly what I want to and not be swayed by the opinions of others.
Otherwise CCP wouldnt have given us the option of choosing any of the 300+ ships available.
fly what you want fam
No Raven?, these are sad day's.
one day
Astero is S tier
Stratios is A tier
There it is
@Loru Gila = HEE-lah.
Nah G for me 😆
@@lorumerthgaming It's a Mexican Spanish word. It's pronounced "HEE-lah", I'm telling you. Gila Monster, Gila City, Arizona, Gila County, AZ. ALL "HEE-lah"..
@Bearaksso its mistake from ccp cuz in en client it should be named Heela then.
@@bobar84c No, the word is Gila. It's pronounced "HEE-lah" because it's a Spanish-origin word. Jeez, people, this isn't complicated.
@Bearak_ I understand you but you dont understand me, also in spanish J is H pron. It should not be in this form in EN client. Similar with triglavian space and ships. Ccp should fix that. Meanwhile let ppl call it whatever thay feel. And I'm slav to be mentioned but throwing letter G infront of someone who speak english is "gee" by default.
Ah yes, good old malice. I use it all the time for FW.
bro uses malice
@@lorumerthgaming sir, the picture in your list is a malice
Im surprised Cyclone was not your tier list. Surely beats Drake (alpha blinged)
Might be on the next one 👀
We are definately missing my beloved Nightmare in S-Tier!
A fair point
Boaa man, you got to chill a bit. I am, as most eve players, well over 30 and you act like the 15 year old kid telling the newest stories from fortnite. The topic is good and interesting... But chill man chill.. ok from the middle of three vid you did a bit
you can reduce the video speed in the youtube player :)
First?
Yes 🎉
bro did it
o7
O7
Loru
Please give me a gila - IGN Cardinal Phallic
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