Springtrap: A Horror Icon in Ruin
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William Afton/Springtrap is easily my favourite Five Nights at Freddy's character, but over the years of being brought back again and again more fans have been expressing disappointment in the series unwillingness to branch out and let the character rest, but how did that come to be and what made him so special in the first place? Here's Springtrap: A Horror Icon in Ruin.
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awesome mark!
Nah.
Npcs' posting comments to get attention
The new Mark design still feels kinda off but the intro animation mark was just looking amazing!
i JUST finished watching all your fnaf videos, can you do YOUR take on the entire series lore please? Include the books after the dlc ruin is out tho!
We have never seen Markiplier happy or even show any other emotion that's not crying aggressively. *Is he okay?*
No
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Part of the problem with Springtrap is a problem that plagues many horror icons. Once they become a regular figure in a franchise, the question turns from "will they beat them" to "HOW will they beat them", causing the villain to be as scary as Team Rocket.
Compare him with Griffith from Berserk, it's a strange comparison I know, but in Berserk the question is not "how are we going to defeat him" it's more like "can we even defeat him?", That's something all horror villains are lacking.
@@thegoldendiamond6762 🤨📸
@@thegoldendiamond6762 bro that's his son 💀💀💀💀
Pyramidhead is good example of that in silent hill 2 he was terrifying but then he was everywhere and become just meh
@@Serhik-id1fh not to mention it ruins prestablished worldbuilding. He's James' punishment, nobody elses.
I always felt like Scott made spring trap so iconic by accident and has keep trying to figure out what made him so iconic in the future games
He's got a severe case of Boba Fett Syndrome.
@@DistractedGlobeGuyWhy is this so true 😭, that new show missed what made him iconic minus his physical appearance
@@troppie7823 I wasn't talking about the appearance-I was talking about him being a stupid throwaway background character that fans artistically glommed onto so now the writers have to retcon him into some kind of ultimate badass when that wasn't what he was originally created for.
@troppie7823 I mean that struggle was there in the legends stuff too, especially with Karen Travis. She tried to make the mandolorians, using Boba as a way to do it, an op awesome warrior culture that Handley could beat jedi in intelligence and skill but that gave her a controversial rep. This got worse in legacy of the force mainly because threw writers were doing the series thus making the mandos and Bobas sudden importance in her books obvious. The fact that the sequel series swerved to show the mandos as amoral mercenaries who would hurt kids and were beaten by jedi indicates that the opposing side could do it too (she had left star wars by that point I think).
To be clear I think it's more she's of British military and wants to show the military as cool in whatever she can. See also her controversial take on halo.
I would argue there wasn't much to bobba in Empire? He's a plot device with a hint of character. Any development he had was from non movie stuff. That being said I agree. All the other takes, including the one I bring up in my other comment, get his very base empire characterization better and build on it more substantially.
One of the biggest issues I have with how FNAF went on after 4 is it put more and more focus on the villain of the story, William/springtrap, when it had (arguably) a way deeper and sadder message when it focused more on his victims.
Ayy roachdawgg
Yeah, the spirits getting freed was basically pointless since their murderer just comes back, not to mention henry's sacrifice in fnaf 6
@@ivanalves8506 it really starts to feel like whats the point... hes not real anf if he had plot armour why should i care about playing to stop him
_That’s_ what makes me so meh about the games! You’ve summed it up pretty succinctly - there’s always going to be media about _killers,_ but it feels more poignant to talk about their _victims_ instead.
@@localmenace3043 100% agreed with you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. FFPS's completion ending was cool and a good closure to the story but the happiest day ending is my favourite *because* it puts all of its focus on the victims finally finding happiness and being freed. Fnaf's story could've been so much more heartbreaking. Imagine if fnaf 4's protagonist was Cassidy instead of the crying child, and the minigames followed Cassidy's story leading up to their death and getting to know their hopes for the future and how much the happiest day meant to them. It would've added so much more to the tragedy and made the connection between the player and the victim(s) so much more intimate.
Springtrap is the Sigma(Mega Man X) of FNAF.
Just when you think he's gone, he never is.
I mean, Sigma did eventually stay dead after seven or so games. He never came back in the Mega Man Zero series, as far as I know.
Who knows how many games it will take for Afton to stop coming back.
@@darkskull1982 ,william afton is sama, william is dead in fnaf 6
I like Afton coming back. But he shouldn't have came back the way he came back in Security Breach. He shouldn't have been seen in it. He should have came back in Ruin. I don't want old Willie to die.
Him coming back in Ruin and not SB could have made Vanny a better character and make people argue if he really is dead or alive.
Marks new sprites are so adorable, i cant focus on anything else😭
i can
obviously this video is before ruin came out, but from what we know burntrap is either the mimic who took the form of burntrap, or burntrap isn't canon to the series in the way we originally thought, as the disassemble Freddy into princess quest ending is the currently believed canon ending as that ending is the only ending Gregory hasn't drawn in the real collectibles from ruin.
That and the massive princess quest sword and lantern on the overturned princess quest arcade machine in Vanny's room in ruin.
fnaf 3 springtrap jumpscares always scared the shit out of me they are just so uncomfortable his stare and smile are terrifying
I imagine that the reason Afton is more talkative after FNAF 3 is that now that he's out of the locked room, he's gotten more time to become accustomed to his new existence. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't talk in fnaf 3 because he just couldn't. It makes sense to me that as time goes on, he gets a better grasp on and understanding of his new form.
the fact that a few months later, fnaf security breach has a game/dlc, called ruin makes me want to stare at the thumbnail for 2 minutes straight💀💀
19:15 that’s exactly what I was gonna say, take inspiration from that fan game and add it to this game
"Less is more" really does feel like it describes the entire franchise really well. I don't really know much about FNAF at all, but just seeing this creepy scrapyard zombie animatronic with the tagline "I always come back" is genuinely effective. This is a man who is so determined to just be a child-killing plague on humanity that he's physically willed himself to stay "alive" as this dying broken thing just for the express purpose of fucking murdering you.
The problem is now you have to explain how he keeps returning and keep that concept fresh. And that's easier said than done.... I feel like you could have some cool horror with Springtrap trying desperately to steal a body somehow so he can stop falling apart and fix himself, but even if you did do that, then what...? There's not really a step two to that idea, you just kind-of do the thing and then he fails and you have to move on. The idea just doesn't have as much staying power as other horror icons, you need to kind-of handle it carefully.
And the one thing I've learned about FNAF is that it DOES NOT know how to handle its ideas carefully.
I will never not love the markiplier joke of every clip of markiplier being him crying
Bro randomizes what sound each vowel makes when he talks
bro has the valorant accent 💀
accent
A accurate version of William would be in a constant state of pain and anger, because in his eyes you left him to die
And yes I do mean physical pain, as he's a literal corpse
spirngtrap looked awesome with those eyes looking right through your soul
scraptrap looked... good only in proper light or rather lack there of
and how the hell is he talking weren't his vocal cords crushed and torn when springlocks snapped?
and then... glitchtrap... not touching that
and after that... burntrap... in literal building from pizzeria simulator
while the design isn't bad the ending with everything burning down and afton being sent to hell was good
making him come back again at this point is just MEH thing
like "look here's the guy did you see him? didi you clap?"
10:24 There is a theory (or more like a concept), that not neccesarily the suit is possessed, but the endoskeleton. So he technically could change up his suit in this scenario
If I have any hope for the FNAF movie, it's that they use the Sringtrap suit sparingly. Lillard said he has a three movie deal, so maybe we won't see him as the MAIN antagonist in the suit until the third
it makes me so happy to see someone have the exact same opinion i do on fnaf3 springtrap. the mindless zombie look is horrifying. that this child murderer is still "alive" in some way, and that only drive he has left is to continue? that the only sounds he makes are screams? its scary! he's scary!
You could even say his characters in ruin. Laugh. Laugh now.
I once saw someone say his organs were at his ankles in his original design and i honestly can’t unsee it
Springtrap is the green hill zone of fnaf.
Well, Glitchtrap and Burntrap are not even William
Now, this video was made 5 months ago
@@plfaproductions I am aware of this, just saying
He will be in ruin in October 27th? Or is that help wanted 2 or is that the movie I DONT KNOW 😢
Spugtrap is kewl
Not horrific now he’s been milked….
1:25 censoring that word made it even worse in my opinion
He didn’t censor it for quality purposes, he censored it cause he wants to get revenue from his work and this was a time when UA-cam was dropping the Strike hammer at pretty much everything.
So yeah, it makes it worse, but it’s understandable.
Spring trap was a fake suit created by FazGoo
Burntrap is what Springtrap should've looked like in Pizzeria Sim. Honestly the dilapidated suit design is far more well suited to the aftermath of the fire of FNAF 3.
You forgot that FNaF World and UCN existed.
They shouldn’t of added on him, hes not supposed to be apart of gregory and cassies story, yet steelwool did it, obviously so more people would buy the game.
You say that, yet he's in a secret ending that is one of the hardest ones to get, and it's implied that ending isn't even canon. Not to mention the amount of people that hated William coming back far outnumbered the people that didn't hate it.
Omg, you've been turned into a marketable plush
I don't know why Scott is over-using him. I'm pretty sure 99% of the community just want him gone. Seeing him in SB had the majority of the fanbase facepalm
i dont have a soul both of my 2 best friends are red heads and i split it between them
UA-cams new terms make things sound dirtier example 1:25
in all seriousness, if they bring back the Burntrap version, they need to make him WAY more intimidating somehow. Or just have him take over the Blob and morph it into the Miscreation we see in the books, idk
Springtrap/William Afton fangirls scare me because they think I'm him because of my first name
Scott should just make a new game, with a new history and new villains
just that likely not many would care about anything that isn't fnaf made by scott.
Having a springtrap cult could make for interesting antagonists. Most could just be people in fur suits like Vanny, but you could go further and have some willingly recreate the process that made springtrap, resulting in twisted versions of animatronics we know that have humans inside them.
i feel like it could lead to ridiculous extents to match the point the books are at,leading to something like an animatronic version of the court of owls
@@missingtexturezidk it sounds lit, it's either that or animatronic humans that can think, feel, eat and sleep.
@@missingtexturezmore like Ghost Face killers
no that is ridiculous, William works best as a stand alone villian we do not need mor eof him
the way the fandom really just started calling burntrap "peepaw" really goes to show how unscary he is 💀
edit because i got a random notif from this today: turns out burntrap isnt afton and its actually "the mimic" and the corpse is that of a teenage girl's..... yea im done with this series. /hj
edit 2: ok ruin came out but i dont have time to watch it pls keep this spoiler free :thumbsup:
edit 3 cause people keep bugging me about this 8 month old comment: after watching ruin and reading some parts of the books i no longer hate burntrap, i still dont like him very much and like many things in sb, he wasnt executed very well, but i wouldnt say i hate him. you can all rest your pretty little heads now knowing that youtube user azaleap does NOT hate peepaw.
The fanart of peepaw is even funnier.
@@liviwaslost fr i loved the ones where he had like a walker and whatnot it was so good
@@azalea-P I liked the ones where he is in a wheelchair, has an IV bag, and is being pushed by Vanny.
At-least it’s an improvement from scraptrap, not by a lot, but if I was given a choice I’d prefer burntrap from scraptrap
@@harbour2118 oh yea 100% hes better design-wise
Spring Trap is unfortunately now the Pyramid Head of FNAF.
Yeah if dbd x fnaf happened
I think springtrap is the only option for dbd
AYO GURU LARRY
Except even worse imo
I've only played silent hill 2, what happens to pyramid head?! Also I'm a big fan Larry
@Ian E so Pyramidhead has a symbolic meaning to James that makes sense in Silent Hill 2. In fact, most of the monsters encountered in Silent Hill 2 have symbolic meanings. The problem is that Konami kept having Pyramidhead and monsters like the bandage nurses show up in later games and movies like silly mascot characters.
The community's reactions and how they treated him with Security Breach was some of the best fun I've had with Fnaf.
Not the blind hate but just all the dumb memes from fans who are tied of treating him seriously
@@thegoldendiamond6762 who the fuck is chris what is wrong with you do you need an adult
@@thegoldendiamond6762 incest? Ew
@@thegoldendiamond6762 plus their kids, even more gross you fucking weirdo
Peepaw Afton
@@daisanity6457 "Alright grandpa, time for bed."
Springtrap is like Pyramid Head. They love to throw him into places where he doesn’t need to be.
Except lore wise Pyramid Head fit in eveey place he was put in (I can't talk about the movie tho)
@@atanaZion In what way did he fit? Pyramid Head is a manifestation of James's guilt it doesn't make sense when it comes to the other games
Scott is clearly a 'less is more' guy, he's undoubtedly gifted when it comes to creating horror and scifi concepts that work the best in his games with minimal and abstract storytelling but after Fnaf 3's middling reception it's clear that he shifted focus to a long-form story with the books and Fnaf 4 onwards, which causes great ideas to feel very scattershot in their execution. Glitchtrap and Vanny deserved to be their own characters.
I mean, Scott isn’t the writer anymore. He quit after UCN iirc.
@@sentientviolin7802 He made FNaFVR's story at the least, don't think we've ever had it clarified what part he had in Security Breach but considering that game feels like someone's fangame got made into official canon... he was probably just like "do whatever you want, just make sure the final boss has 'trap' in his name or you're fired"
If I were told to write my own version of Glitchtrap and Vanny, I'd make Vanny the big bad, a complete psychopath that's a major fan of William and his crooked legacy, a copycat killer.
and I'd make Glitchtrap this sort of dark reflection of Vanny's sanity, this illusion symbolising the dark path she took that only exists in Vanny's consciousness to push her into doing what she does, it's a metaphorical way of storytelling.
Honestly if Scott Cawthon redid the jumpscares of FNAF 3, then it would of been a better conclusion to the series
@@sunsetlover123-y7c way better and much more realistic than wondering if all this is over some Bullshit remnant
Springtrap is easily the best design in the whole series. Actually terrifying and feels like a proper final villain for the series
I agree, but I think he's come back a little too often.
@@staysilent4392 "I always come back." - spring trap
@@thegoldendiamond6762 Find God
I'll never forget the way Scott rolled him out.. *He knew Springtrap would be a game changer!*
@Trent M I agree up to a point. Personally, I believe he was at his best in FnaF 3 and Pizza Sim. The only reason he fell of for me is because he is now essentially the Frieza of the FnaF franchise.
Fun fact: the underwhelming jumpscare in fnaf 3 was used for theories where people thought it was evidence for springtrap not wanting to hurt you
didnt they also do the same with foxy
jumpscare not scary = evil animatronic is good
@@carbonfibre_
TBH the rest of the jumpscares aren't exactly scary either, they're morso startling, though Springtrap's is just plain lame.
Ah weird FNAF theories. FNAF2 Foxy yelling freedom, anyone?
@@xacmashe3852 OHFUCK i SWEAR i heard something like that
The problem in general that not enough people admit is that Scott just isn’t as good of a writer that people treat him like he is. It’s plain as day that the series was rewritten multiple times as the games went along and it has resulted in tons of plot holes and a story that is literally impossible to fully piece together into something that makes sense.
True but the main fnaF 1-6 story isn't as complicated as everyone says
Part of the issue was also that a lot more of the engagement with the series came from dissecting obscure clues and implications. As opposed to clear cut writing
It’s pretty obvious from the beginning that Scott didn’t expect Fnaf 1 to receive the reaction it got thus he never planned out a whole story for fnaf and went through all the rewrites. Scott really wasn’t some mastermind writer that had everything in mind, and the fandom dissecting every bit of lore didn’t help
Yeah, this series is trash.I only watched this video because I like Marks videos.
@Busy Ghost the thing is, however, Scott managed to write a decent little tale with the first 3 games. He could've left it there, and while fnaf3 did disappoint gameplay-wise, it did wrap up the story with only a few peripheral mysteries. Instead, he made fnaf 4 and decided to revolve the entire series around the Aftons and its really all been downhill since. The cracks were ripped open exposing how shoddy the writing and planning is. You could tell that he was making it up as he went along. You could see him changing and retconning things. It got messy. It lost its spark for a while. Then the books went and made things more weird. I especially hate how the books were said to explicitely be a seperate Canon from the games, but overtime the writing for the games made it impossible to not use book information to fill the gaping holes. Now we got people talking about illusion disks, fazgoo and robot children. It's gotten really convoluted and really silly, and not in a super fun way.
bro, Afton being the final boss in Security Breach has the same vibes as “Somehow, Palpatine Returned”
It’s not William afton, it’s a burnt string trap known as burn trap
@@l750z_6 ...springtrap is william afton
@@adora_was_taken no he isn’t. He’s in the suit yeah but William and spring trip are not the same being / entity
@@l750z_6 who's saying "i always come back" then
@@adora_was_taken William
Springtrap's jumpscare is by far the best in the series. He moves with a calculated purpose that none of the child souls could use. They were attacking in fear and desperation. Springtrap is a serial killer hunting you down.
He's also a 30 year old corpse in unimaginable agony, so he doesn't really have the stamina or energy to yeet himself at you like FNAF 2 Foxy.
@@concept5631Yh but that Nigga be dashing across ur room sometimes to jumpscare u
I doubt the dead children killed in fear and confusion, I see the dead children as more "restless spirits" than being confused and fearful, they just attack everyone like what any restless and vengeful spitit would do, besides it wouldn't make that much sense if they were afraid cuz their movements in FNAF 1 are eerily calculated, almost as if they plan like a bunch of apex predators, eg. hiding in places you wouldn't see much of them, like Freddy in the bathroom. (No offense to your interpretation.)
Yeah exactly! It's underwhelming as a jumpscare but it has great fridge horror if you think about why it's so calm. This isn't the tormented soul of a kid in a clunky animatronic attacking in fear or desperation or rage, like before. This is an experienced murderer. He's killed in that suit before and he won't bat an eye at doing it again, even in death.
I think a better way of describing it is that the other animatronics are vengeful.
Springtrap is malicious and outwardly sadistic and you can tell there is no justification, his only interest is in hurting you.
I love the running gag of having markiplier crying as the webcam every time you use his footage
thank you for the much-needed inclusion of cheesetrap he is the most important springtrap thing to have ever been made
Yes
He went from "I'm gonna kill you" to "I'm going to make you watch LS Mark's entire The Simpsons review without piss breaks"
I don't tell which fate is worse.
William truly is an evil bastard.
@@concept5631it’s obvious the second one is worse
I don't consider anything past 6 canon, it was such a great ending and conclusion to the story and characters
I completely agree! Everything kinda went down in my opinion after 6
I mean I like it tbh, It is like a new age for fnaf
The fandom whenever William afton comes back to life:
"How many times must we teach you this lesson? Old man?!"
Also me when Elizabeth x Chris Afton doesn't become canon
@@thegoldendiamond6762 who’s Chris? That name doesn’t ring any bells for me.
@@AnActualCadaver Chris is a fanmade name for the crying child.
@@angeIcakie I thought the fans were calling him “Evan”
@@AnActualCadaver chris and evan are his fannames, i believe
Part of the horror with Afton/Springtrap was the fact that he killed kids and it was pretty vague as to why he did so, with it being left up to interpretation. Even the “he always comes back” line felt more as a way of saying that his actions will forever haunt the legacy of Fazbear Entertainment. Making him into a genius who’s trying to find the secret to eternal life that literally always comes back was a horrible writing decision that is definitely part of why FNAF lost a lot of what made it good.
I completely agree!
At this point, I just try to ignore whatever the franchise's doing with him post FNAF 6. Books included.
Scott might've managed to release a great set of games, but his skills as a writer are clearly lacking lmao
@@fansee1368 Yeah lol. I feel as if SL should’ve been it’s own thing and not a continuation. The ending of Pizzeria Sim is wonderful though. In an ideal world, the og fnaf timeline would’ve stopped at 4 with maybe Pizza Sim’s ending and everything else was with different characters and a different story that didn’t fall back on Afton. Trying to add on more and more crap absolutely ruined the story.
Yeah like the fact that he was just a dude in the suit was scary on it’s own, I think that him becoming immortal or at least trying to is a good concept, but execution didn’t work well after the first 6 games, especially security breach
@@dullsunrise8820ending at 4 feels really odd and unsatisfactory honestly. I feel like the series should have ended at either 3 or 6
Springtrap is honestly really similar to Michael Myers for me. In his debut he was terrifying. Amazing design, killing for no real reason, and they scarcely showed him in detail so when they did it was even more terrifying. But after his popularity rises they began putting him in more projects that weren't necessary, adding in lore that made him less scary and ruining his design more and more, as well as showing him more often which ruins his creepiness, even if he still did have some cool moments. Now they bring him back for no reason other than the fact that he's the recognizable villain, and in his final appearance he's essentially a weak old man. I could've just described either one of them and it would be true
not to mention the grasping at your franchise with a ‘ young apprentice killer ‘ whose existence is so botched their rise to evil is a major plot hole that gets overlooked by the writers for the sake of continuing the story
@@miccia3561 I didn't even think about that but it's so true
Michael afton
Michael Myers
All makes sense
@@miccia3561 yeah, how did it go from "child murderer gets killed by the thing he used to kill with" to "computer virus makes user evil"
@@miccia3561 Ugh EXACTLY. They absolutely fumbled the bag with that one.
At 9:05, something about the way he’s so giddy to explain the joke only to say, “Like Chica!” made me laugh so amazingly hard😂
Agreed
The saddest part of all this is that Springtrap shares the same title as Brian Griffin: “An Icon in Ruin”
@@thegoldendiamond6762 🤨📸
He's not THIS down now, tho. Ending up like Brian is worse
@Epic Zombie Killer Yeah idk why people are mad. I really liked Brian in the earlier seasons and found his struggles in being a dog fun and compelling to watch. While I may not like Brian in the modern seasons that doesn't invalidate your opinion. And vice versa.
@@Jack_Saint_Archive some one gotta send this to kwite i want to see his reaction
Can’t believe LS Mark is doing full-on video essays on FNAF’s storyline now. It’s quite entertaining to watch these
On god
There's something so soothing about his voice.
Love you fnaf novel dubs btw
@@Sabrina_Tea Im for the future I have bad news… he did 😔
@@Sabrina_Tea what does this mean, I haven't kept up with anything, presumably Matpat, has been doing
At this point, he is basically a slasher movie villain.
Like Chucky. He has also used the term "I always come back "
Micheal Myers and Jason.
@@JohnsCoolNGL I think he's most similar to Chucky
Yep, I told my brother this about 2 months ago, and it does not always mean its a bad thing, myers is one of my favorite villains ever, just William Afton needs to be more scary, I think him attacking Gregory in SB would have went a loooooong way to making him still seam like a threat.
i mean, that's not a problem, if it really does come back, it needs to come back scarier and more intimidating, which chucky didn't do that often
I do think Springtrap suffers from overstaying his welcome. His first appearance was cool, creepy, and even intimidating. But all of that starts going away.
It's a shame because he could've easily been left behind pretty early on.
Yeah, it would've been better if he had just subtle appearances leading up to his return instead of focusing the entire story about him all the time. Because hat would actually make his return more interesting.
Nope, Jason overstayed his welcome and he is fine, problem is that Scott can't write him right.
I think Scraptrap should've just been a torn version of Springtrap. A busted and withered version revealing more of the corpse.
Very true. My opinion though? Burntrap's design should've been used in Fnaf 6; it's honestly a really excellent design with how humanoid he looks.
yeah but if scott did that then he might have actually needed to (god forbid) make the model of the corpse beneath the suit actually look remotely decent instead of like... that
@@dylan.bissendmylife Literally anything Scott could've attempted would be better than Scrap-"skull ear"-trap.
@@Imperials3nate imo I don't like burntrap. Hell I prefer scraptrap over him, his design is way too modernised and stylised. He looks more like a fan-made drawing of ignited springtrap rather than an official design. Oh and he also looks like an old man.
@@concept5631 Scraptrap is a cool design. I'm sick of people acting as if springtrap's corpse design is any better, springtrap's corpse literally has fucking guts on his chest and feet. Atleast scraptrap's corpse looks remotely humanoid instead of meat spaghetti.
Honestly the cult of springtrap would’ve been such a cool and terrifying thing and i hate that they didn’t do it
That would've dope as hell
More than a cult, it would be interesting if Vanessa was one of those weird women that fall in love with serial killers and is trying to honor or outright turn into him by killing Gregory.
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Yeah, like all of the Jeffrey Dahmer stans.
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I think it would have been great if Vanny had this backstory, and after Gregory defeats her either with her dying or going to prison, interest in William brought the cult into being and Gregory kept coming back as a final boy/new Michael type character for the series. the mimic is a really promising villain, and I love the idea that Williams actions are so terrible they are a literal parasite that always comes back....but I like those ideas SEPARATELY
What a massive jump from an adult animated cartoon to discussing a killer in an indie horror series
In my opinion the real issue is pretty darn obvious - it's not that they should stop bringing back William, it's that they should *STOP ADDING ONTO A COMPLETED STORY.* But Scott has that problem where a creator of something thinks that, as a creator, their sole job is to make more and more. That's why the series has ended uhh five times now? That's why there's a novel trilogy and then a novel duodecilogy and--
The series legitimately ends, 100% done and over, but then Scotty thinks "But the fans want mOoOoOre" and boots up the ol' ClickTeam - or nowadays hires his favorite passionate-but-incredibly-incompetent dev team to rush out another underwhelming mess with some good highlights. Is anyone over the age of 14 really just sitting around hoping there's another FNaF game announced?
Facts. I feel as if the fans wrote the story anyway because if Scott wrote the whole thing we’d be in time traveling ball pits.
@@Cam28388 why is FNAF so goofy 💀 like the story was terrifying until all this Willy Wonka bullsh*t came along, time travelling ball pits? Honestly. 💀
Pizzeria ending was THE BEST ending he could ever come up with, it literally ended grandiose and should've been the end of Afton, as well as classic animatronics/souls thingie. But with continuation it made everything just...pointless, the sacrifice, the work to contain everyone, just meaningless! Why oh why they couldn't just continue with Vanny when they CLEARLY set her to be the new villain in VR? Upsetting...
@@hotmeelk500 I agree, Fnaf should’ve ended after pizzeria simulator and started new in Fnaf VR. Springtrap was supposed to have been finally gotten rid off in the ending yet somehow returned as glitchtrap? It makes no sense and it’s a shame what the new games have become. They’ve just fallen into the rabbit hole of “indie horror games made for kids”.
if they are going to do it they better make their own story that just happens to be fnaf
I'll never forgive scott for what he did to me in pizzeria simulator.
bro got me looking like jimmy neutron
Never expected Mark to know so much about the lore. He dropped some heavy lore drops. maybe the channel will turn into a theory channel! *OH God no*
But that’s just a theory
A GAME THEORY
Thanks for watching
He didn't even know the difference between springtrap and Vanny
We still need a 4th theory channel
I may have to be more frequent here
For real though I unironically can’t wait to see Matthew Lillard in the Springtrap suit
Let’s hope he not get lock in the suit. Oh wait. 😅
Something that i wonder is how will they encorporate a dead body in a robot, because springtrap in the game has HUGE eyeballs for some reason
@@ivanalves8506 They're trying to stay as true to the game designs as possible, but they still have full creative control. I wouldn't mind if they changed some things about him
Like zoinks scoob the sprinlocks shut man
@@ivanalves8506 if I remember right they’re animatronic eyes (which implies his eyes got popped out and replaced with robot ones when he died
Can’t wait to see Mathew Lillard dawn this suit as the one who always come back, William Afton.
@@thegoldendiamond6762stop baiting people bro sooner or later some idiot is gonna fall for it lol
@@thegoldendiamond6762 none of us were, and that's just gross and wrong
@@thegoldendiamond6762 Who?
@@thegoldendiamond6762 stop that’s gross bro
@@thegoldendiamond6762 we don’t care
Springtrap really is the only one that looks like a monster on his own, makes you wonder why they put him up to entertain the kids
Well he is for a horror attraction
@@thegoldendiamond6762 you will ho to hell
Probably looked less creepy when he was new
It is kinda sus that the people who found him just went "noice, this is perfect for our new horror attraction!" and never saw the very obvious pieces of dead guy in there... I have to assume they were just stoned out of their minds
@@Rey_Palpatine The room was boarded up, I don’t think they knew about it.
Springtrap's design in the original was amazing, he had that og fnaf charm that makes it clear that he would have been lovable to kids, when he was torn up and housing a human that is, but it's those extra details of the fleshy insides, the tears, that really made him stick in my mind so long. Up until fnaf 3, we hadn't seen a real human character in the games before, just these haunted animatronics. So when we finally did get it, it was implemented perfectly and it really made you think, "Wow, this guy is suffering so much in that suit, that's messed up man"
I think Springtrap was one of the few plot ideas Scott had during the first game and saved for later. There is a green rotten bunny drawing on the wall in the very first game. He said Bonnie gave him nightmares during development, too.
Even the Puppet had to get scenes retroactively, meaning that wasn't planned.
Springtraps design in FNAF 3 is insanely creepy and awesome. And, surprisingly, I think the look of Burntrap would actually be an amazing look, if it came after 3 and not Scraptrap. The head looks similar enough, he would still have an arm to, you know, have a good reason for it to be there still. His skin is almost completely gone, but his muscles are the last things left with his bones. He's had to replace parts of himself to keep alive, like the eyes, making him a little creepier, some how he had to remove his own eyes to see through different ones. However it came after Burntrap, which in it of itself was a bad design. It's sad they over used him.
tbh I think Springtrap's yes are much more unsettling than Burntrap's
Springtrap's eyes look veiny and rotten, with that trademark white glow in the pupils, and those weird plastic shells ovr them
Burntrap's eys are just. dark metal balls with purple leds in them
I really wished they took the path of Vanessa being kind of like the second William. Her being the beta tester that was infected by the voice of Willaim sounds like a good idea. They could've even done something like have her roam the mall like the animatronics and have her roaming dialog be her talking to the voice of William on her head
Markiplier crying over five nights at freddys gameplay is the best running gag in history
I absolutely love that Mark always uses Markipliers crying facecam when showing his gameplay
Afton / Spring trap has the same problem as Sigma from the Mega Man X. Every time he comes back, it not only lessens the current moment, but lessens previous encounters by association
I had that exact comparison in mind about Glitchtrap specifically because he has the same problem. No matter how many times he dies, the writers can always say his data was copied onto another device & if they say he's really dead this time & end the story, it'll be like "Really? Why didn't they have a backup that time? Why would they ever not have at least a few?"
He less feels like THE villian of fnaf, and now A villian of fnaf. Seeing Springtrap in SB "die" no longer feels like a turn in the series when we know that he's gonna come back. What makes a villian scary is seeing LESS of them, we never see bendy be the main enemy of every chapter in BATIM/BATDR, huggy wuggy isn't the main villian of poppy playtime, the less we see of these characters the less repetitive they feel because of how there's now a worry of "if they're gone, who's the next?" It creates a sense of new excitement for the new villian.
@@neversafefromwaluigi8853
Poppy Playtime's a bad example. It's pretty obvious they're going to use the "self-contained villain" formula for their game's chapters and Huggy's only the face because he's more marketable than Poppy herself.
it was funny when purple guy but now it no funny
That’s partially what made X8’s ending so good, it did away with that.
As someone who hates playing horror games but really love the lore behind fnaf... I forgot what I was going to say
Nice video tho.
Sometimes, villains like these need to stop coming back, because they can get milked dry. Instead, focus on something new, which is what I hoped Security Breach did with Vanny.
I was hoping for that to. But I also wished that Glitchtrap was just an AI copying Afton's behavior That would have been really cool. But no, Afton's back.
This might be the most forgiving video on the current state of Springtrap I've seen, and actually it's really nice. Good video dude
I like the idea that there's a whole cult devoted to wearing spring trap like suit and trying to make the Afton name feared again.
I think Springtrap wasn't talking in Fnaf 3 was because this was the first time he's ever moved in decades. He's still adjusting to his body which is why moves so jolted and can only snarl. But after he survives the fire, he became more attuned with himself and learned how to talk, even fixing his burnt body.
I think that's what makes him so scary. He doesn't follow the rules of the other animatronics. He if fully aware of himself and moves how and when he wants and only plays along in PS because it's intriguing. He genuinely loves terrorizing his victims and he could never do that with his old body.
I’m still confused as to why he killed kids aside from Henry’s daughter
@@miketrapper0464 I believe he got addicted to thrill of the kill, so too speak.
@@Oturan20 actually I saw one of marks videos I think it’s supposedly was so he can be immortal, idk it could be that or what you said
@@miketrapper0464actuallly no, he only did because he wanted to, he was crazy
@@PAPA42069 ah ok
The Icon in Ruin series went from Family Guy characters to William Afton.
Honestly, I mostly just like Springtrap and BurnTraps designs. Scraptrap just looks like that professor villain from Jimmy neutron.
The kid at 5:38 is my brother Shady150 and this was insane to see on this video, he made that 8 years ago!
woah that's awesome man
Him being in hell/purgatory torture by his victims's fursonas that HE created was such a fucking good ending for him.... like I really wish that if the they wanted to keep the franchise they could focus on a copy cat- serial killers irl have those in tons.
A long time ago I compared Springtrap to Sigma from Mega Man X, but the only character who hid himself while he repaired himself better than Afton is Zero.
Someone else literally just commented the same thing and they show up under you for me
I are remember somebody on Newgrounds Forum making the joke about "Sigma vs Afton Rap Battle" or something like that.
I am glad so many more people are analyzing FNAF. Honestly, I live Springtrap as well. In FNAF 3, we see that Spring Bonnie was probably a cute kid friendly suit, but when William Afton was scared of the souls and got spring-locked, he looks terrifying. But the fact that his determination and vengeance was so powerful that he fused with an animatronic is so cool and crazy. I personally think they should have stopped fnaf at either sister location or after UCN. But he is still cool. In Help Wanted, he was terrifying because you saw how he looked at a child's point of view. Sure, security breach was a bit much but still. Anyway good Job Mark. And Congrats on the YouTooz
I ship Elizabeth and Chris Afton just so you know
@The Golden Diamond who is Chris? Or is that the name of the Crying child?
@@thegoldendiamond6762 You've been spamming the same comment everywhere in this comment section. Just for you to know: No one cares.
We both know you're just trying to get the attention your parents forgot to give you, so you type weird shit in random videos expecting others' reactions on your brainumbingly dumb post, so you can feel like maybe someone, out there, might care about you. But that's just an illusion; in fact: the more you make these comments, the less people are going to talk to you, and as your braincells melt in the liquid stupidity of your mediocre self, you finally realise that, Indeed, the only person that laughed was you.
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@@complex2live the Crying Child doesn’t have a confirmed name so I don’t know who’s that person’s talking about
You know what could've been a cool idea? Springtrap getting absolutely pissed at Vanny for reviving him
Think about it. As Mark said, Springtrap has literally nothing left to do, everything he built up is gone. What's he supposed to do? Keep coming back over and over and eventually find something else? So eventually, Vanny revives Springtrap and when he wakes up he charges at her and barrades her, saying that this isn't what he wanted Yada Yada. So Springtrap idk, maybe kills Vanny at that point? This is all just a very loose idea tbh but I think that works way better then just "yeah let's keep bringing back Springtrap"
Honestly? I hope that shit happens in the Ruin DLC for Security Breach.
Dude has nothing to go back to. He’s probably fully accepted his fate in hell, so being brought back for some idiot that worships him probably WOULD piss him off.
So imagine if, in the end, he just says a fuck you to Cassidy and ends himself permanently, by choice this time, so he can say he won in a twisted way by not letting the kids be the one to end him/make him suffer, and drags Vanessa and extension Glitchtrap, who I think is still in Vanny, down with him so he “doesn’t have to suffer alone.” Freeing the kids as a result, ending Afton permanently, but still leaving simple high-tech robots as threats for those who want more of the series.
I mean..the books have the mimic, so they can focus on the mimic, completely separate from Afton after he ends himself and takes every trace of himself left down with him.
That sounds so cool! Even Springtrap is sick of his villain arc being milked dry. 💀
“…Bears, get it? *chuckles* Like Chica,”
Why did that get me to laugh so hard…
It'd be interesting to have a game from the POV of the villains
Mega mind game is out
Not knowing what you’re character’s motivation can make your villain scarier.
To some point for some time but the more situations you put them in, the less it seems mysterious & the more it just seems like they genuinely have no motive. It's like when Half-Life 2 mods end with Gman showing up & saying something vague for no reason when you're playing as a made up character with no significance to the plot. It doesn't raise questions because you know no question will have an answer besides "He's popular".
Not always. It just doesn't have to be extraordinary for the sake of it, like the "searching for immortality" bs. Scott could just say he had a terrible childhood which is usually the case for most problematic people.
2:06 Mark predicts the fnaf movie
Springtrap was special during Scott's era aka actual FNAF but is now just to tear up the lore even more and Security Breach undone slot of Scott's progress
Crazy watching this video with the context of the mimic
9:00 this joke is so fucking funny and it's entirely because of the delivery
I don't know why but the "Get it? Bears?
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Like Chica?" Made me laugh hysterically for like five minutes straight
I genuinely believe FNAF 3 was the peak of FNAF as a whole. I have always appreciated a mystery, and I think sometimes it’s better to be left wondering than to have a complex answer laid out before you. When it comes to a story, sometimes the mystery alone is compelling enough-perhaps the answer is less satisfying.
That mystery is what kept me genuinely interested in FNAF from 1-4, but as more and more was revealed (“revealed”?) and the story got increasingly wacky, weird, and overly complex, the intrigue started to die for me.
It’s more fun to wonder why this guy murdered a bunch of kids rather than know that he did it because of remnant and because his daughter was maimed or whatever.
Same i find the fnaf timeline way too confusing i miss 2016-17
Fnaf 1-4 are the best games imo
I agree. Purple Guy was way better than anything William Afton could have ever provided
That’s just you.
1:25 I know about the whole "oH yOu CaNt SaY kiLL oN yOuTuBe AnYmOrE wErE gOnNa DEMONITIZE YOU!!!11!1" thing but the word "killed" being censored makes it sound WAY worse.