+dakickazz really guys? I usually shoot the chambered round up in the air every 10 minutes to make sure that round wasnt a dud if an emergency arrived. Try it out it could be a LIFE SAVER!!!!
It's funny how many of us are going back to double action pistols. I too converted back to a DA/SA pistol, but I'm carrying a CZ P-01 Compact. I, like you, left striker fired guns a year or so ago. I had several reasons for doing this, but I've always carried loaded with a round in the chamber. Since I carry appendix I figured a DA/SA pistol gave me a little extra margin for error given an unintentional discharge in that location of the body can prove to be fatal very quickly. I love the Beretta's but I opted for a smaller pistol in the CZ. I do want to get one of the Wilson Combat Beretta's one of these days though. Have you seen how the safety is configured on them? When you decock the pistol, the safety automatically returns to the fire mode, there is no manual safety -- just a decocker.
A lot of people never stopped carrying DA/SA's even before it resurfaced again as being popular. I'll admit that the fad also got me doing it again for a while, but then practicality took over and i went back to my gl----striker fired gun. Then practicality reared its boring head once again and i downsized to a subcompact striker fired gun. And its what i'll stick with. Not all of us have a sphinx (or two) to put a smile on our face in the morning. Its true what you say about the "margin of error" tho bc i find myself being overly cautious when holstering my striker fired guns. Funny thing is, no matter which gun "we" may be holstering or unholstering, we still dont even touch the trigger.
I was trained many a year ago, to use my thumb to sweep the safety on the 92 when drawing from the duty rig. We had to do it hundreds of times during training. Shooting one round, holstering, practicing the thumb sweep until it was muscle memory. We were all issued the 92 and every class did the same. I carried my 92 on and off duty for over a decade, until I went with the G23, it never fails, I still thumb sweep an imaginary safety on my Glock.
@@BitchyBoxxy It honestly depends on the ergonomics of your safety. I find it extremely ridiculous when people complain on sweeping the safety when it almost literally holds no time difference in execution. Videos I've seen of guys doing so tend to be very exaggerated and it becomes obvious they never trained in really sweeping the safety.
@justingalloway because the safety can be activated unintentionally, so if he trained to disengage it all tye time, whenever it was on (I wouldn't carry with a safety on, unnecessary) he'd take it off.
Its true, when you first start getting used to the Beretta that hammer drop when you bring the slide forward always scared the hell out of me. But once you get used to it, you won't want any other pistol.
Incase you guys don't know what weapons conditions are, they are as follows: Condition 1: Magazine inserted, round in chamber, slide forward, safety on. Condition 2: Applies only to revolvers. Condition 3: Magazine inserted, no round in chamber, slide forward, safety on. Condition 4: No magazine inserted, no round in chamber, slide locked to the rear, safety on.
I know this post is old but still bad information. Condition two also applies to this and other guns. That is magazine in gun a round in the chamber and hammer down.
These aren’t the conditions I learned... Condition 3 is full mag inserted, no round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off. Condition 2 is round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off. Condition one is cocked and locked. Condition 4 is empty mag, empty chamber, hammer down. There is also Condition 0 which is ready to fire.
Same here, but I take it off safe because the double action pul takes a lot of effort. what's also nice is that you can hold your thumb on the hammer while re-holstering it
Its called a "safety-deckocking lever" so that if you are in condition one and want to safely drop the hammer without firing a round you can put on the safety and the hammer will safely fall without you having to hold onto the hammer.
i love hammers and da/sa because i want one in the chamber and dont mind a long heavy da pull if i need it...if i have the time to prepare ill drop that hammer for the unfortunate event i may need to pull it and my shots will be easier...nothing happens? decock. LOVE THAT
I carried a Berretta M9 as my sidearm during the 4 years I served in the Marine Corps and I have quite a bit of experience with it. You should carry in condition 2 like u are. That first double action trigger pull will b somewhat of a challenge to get used to. It should serve u well for many years bro. Sgt. Jason Edge, USMC
thanks, yeah Im getting use to that double action but its not a big deal for me, right now I have gone from having to rack the slide after I draw to flick a switch so its been much easier for me...despite what others think I will probably stick with this...
I also have carried the M9 service pistol... my only complaint that I have with the pistol is that the locking block will fail. That is after a lot of ammo has been fired through it but still, every range we went on there was always one pistol that broke.
In the UK we only have two conditions, 1, rolled up newspaper in back pocket, and 2, rolled up newspaper in hand ready to strike, I am a condition 2 guy, so beware. Also side note, if a burglar trips up on your carpet he can sue for damages, I kid you not.
If it were me, I would use the de-cocker but then disengage the safety but thats just me. My normal carry is striker fired and has no safety. I don't mind guns that have them but I won't use them for carry as it is another thing to remember should you need to use it.
Yes, I carried my glock cond3 for a few months at first but then one day I realized, nothing bad will happen in cond1 if you follow/respect the rules of safe gun protocols and it's been four years and so far so good
See my thoughts exactly it should take a max of 1-2 months (not 8 years...) to realize that Condition 1 is the safest it can be for both you and your family (being responsible of course with the weapon and keeping it away from people or children that shouldn't have access to it) ect because its ready to use. I small point is if you carry in condition 3 you will always assume the gun is "unloaded" which could lead to a Neg discharge if you are not careful. Carry Condition 1 and KNOW the gun is ALWAYS loaded.
everyone has the right to do what they want like whether or not to speed when they drive or whether or not to buy mcdonalds for dinner instead of a salad...if your pro guns respect others decision to use their guns how they want as long as they are safe with them it doesnt effect anyone other than them...gun guys shitting on each other for what caliber they carry or what gun they have or how they carry only hurts all of us...
I'm 6'0 165 pounds and I carry a full-size M&P 9mm. You just gotta have a good belt and some can't on your holster. And it doesn't hurt to carry at your 4oclock or 8 o'clock if your a left handed guy.
Great choice in weapons. The 92 is my winter carry weapon of choice. (I carry a PX4 Storm Subcompact in t-shirt weather) My decocker has been converted to a G type so I carry Condition 0. 12 pound double action pull, that trigger is not going off without some intentional yanking. But you are right do what works for you. Beretta's are very well engineered and very safe. The Beretta 92 /96 has 3 internal safeties to prevent drop discharge including a firing pin block that only lifts when the trigger is pulled so even then the hammer back it will not fire if dropped. It is not designed to be carried cocked and locked so no sense in getting crazy. I have a glock as well. I like the Beretta betta. Shouldn't have said that out loud the Glock fan boys are going to come out of the woodwork and revoke my Glock now.
I am happy you switched your stance on this! I converted my Beretta (just like yours) to a G model that the de-cock is JUST a de-cock, not a safety. So I carry condition one, hammer down, safety off. Well isn't that dangerous? NOPE Did you see the piece that pops up just in front of the sight when you pull the trigger? That is a firing pin safety. It only moves when you pull the trigger. Unless it rises up the firing pin CAN NOT hit the primer. It is also for drop safety, in the event of a drop the firing pin again can not strike the primer. Your Glock has the same thing, as do most modern handguns, even pistols. Again, I am happy for you starting to carry condition one, and I am just passing knowledge along to make you feel even safer.
In Park you are correct about the gun not going off. I have had a slam fire before on a defective gun so the gun must always be pointed in the same directions.
I've owned and carried DA/SA for the majority of my adult life including the 92FS as well. I also had the Taurus versions, the PT92 - as well as the PT99 - and actually preferred the Taurus models. They had frame mounted safeties, which I just found more natural and seemed more durable. Plus, as rare as the occasion is, if you ever have trouble with it, Taurus will take care of it free of charge for the life of the gun, no matter what number owner you are. I lost a spring in my PT99 rear site, tried all sorts of hardware store springs because I didn't want to wait for what I figured would be like a couple months, but had no luck. Called Taurus, and they sent me the spring, along with an entire rear site for good measure. It was at my door in less than a week. And this was an older gun that went through a lot. But it functioned flawlessly. As nice as the Air Weight and GP100 are, the Ultra-Lite is the revolver I suggest to everyone I know looking for a revolver). When I was younger, I usually carried with one in the chamber, decocked, but safety off. After many debates, and even more shooting, I began to carry one in the pipe, cocked, but safety on. Eventually, I picked up a Glock for a steal (like-new G27 for $300), which I grew accustomed to and began carrying it. At first I was scared of having no safety switch, so I carried with an empty chamber. I came to the realization that it's just a waste of time that I may need in a self defense situation. I don't put my finger on the trigger until I pull it anyways. So I began carrying with it chambered. I then switched my double-action pistols (HKs) to the light LEM triggers which were great. Some time later, I discovered the VP40. And that's what I now carry, with one in the pipe. I LOVE this gun. The only striker-fired compact .40 that isn't just a 9mm with stronger spring and wider barrel. It's got a heavier, larger slide. Especially at the muzzle. Which I theorize is to reduce muzzle lift on it. I couldn't say if it really makes a difference, I think so, but that may be placebo
I agree, basically one in the chamber and safety on, extra round in the hole, half second to pop off safety. (if you have trained). If you ccw inside the waistband or tight to the bottom I believe its the best way to go.
I carry without one in the chamber, typically. If for some reason I'm in a place where I feel my odds of using it significantly increases, such as a downtown area, I'll move one to the chamber.
Most of the time when people "need" their gun, they aren't going to know ahead of time. Do you carry in a holster? Do you have proper trigger discipline? If you've answered yes to both of these questions, please carry in condition one. I remember when I started carrying, I would rack a round into the chamber before I put it in my holster and I would eject the round out of the chamber when I would take it off before bed. One night, I dropped the magazine on my glock 19 and pulled the slide back to eject the round. I pulled back and placed my palm into the air to catch the cartridge like I had done dozens of times before. Guess what happened? No round ejected. I had been walking around all day with a gun I thought was in condition one. God forbid I needed to pull my weapon that day and used it all I would have heard was a "click" of a firing pin on an empty chamber. I thought about it a lot the next few days, specifically if I would have had the mental capacity to tap and rack in a stressful scenario. Now I keep my guns loaded, and in holsters and I have yet to see one jump up and go off on its own accord. If i'm in a situation where I need to use it, I feel like eliminating a variable like an empty chamber can completely change an outcome if I need to defend myself. I'm not trying to be harsh, but you probably need to just give yourself more credit. I'm assuming you handle unloaded weapons like you would a loaded one. As long as your competent with the safely rules, you'll be just fine carrying a loaded firearm.
+Travis Jones I carry holstered. I have great trigger control but as a human I can't have perfect trigger control. I feel like in the long run of taking my gun out of the holster each and every day that eventually I could accidentally engage the trigger. Obviously, I feel the odds are incredibly minimal of that happening, but I personally feel that it outweighs the possibility of me ever actually having to discharge my weapon in self defense. Plus, it's not like I'm sacrificing carrying either, I still have my gun, it's just not quite as readily available as it could be.
you carry without 1 in the chamber? Than you carry a club, not a gun. Think about it. When do all failures happen?? Answer: When the slide moves. So why do you want to take a chance of having a malfunction when you rack the slide to make the gun go bang? Have 1 in the chamber already, and you are guaranteed at least 1 shot with no jams. "Shakes my head"
AD very rarely happen with a DA first pull. Most AD happen with light triggers. Agreed, I would not carry with a light trigger gun. If you feel you have time to "rack the slide" continue doing what your doing. Watch some videos on the subject and see if you think you have time to rack the slide when you need it. The bad guy already has his ready to go and you will not. You are already at a disadvantage. Do as you do.
I carry my M9 decocked and safety off. Ive made the following mods to it. Ive added the wilson short trigger and the fluted steel guide rod happy with it
92 has a long and heavy trigger pull on double action, you could carry it with the safety off after a round has been chambered and the decocker has been used and there is 0.0000001 % chance you'd set it off unintentionally
When I first got a beretta I did NOT trust the safety decoder. Even after take down and physically examining how it worked I did NOT trust it on a loaded round until I decocked it at the range, pointing the barrel towards my target. I know i was being paranoid but shit now I trust that safety/decocker with my life.
Yeah, semantics I get it but to me that's not C1. If it requires another step to send a round down range it's C2 or C3. Just saying. Every man can decide what's best for him none of my business. But point being this is an example why I don't personally care for little acronyms or terms like numbered "conditions". Either you pull the trigger and it goes bang or you gotta do something else before it goes bang. Two conditions in my mind. It's hot or it's not. Just my two pennies
true but 100% of accidental shootings and ND's were when it was hot...this fat guy doesnt want to catch the trigger on his clothing or holster while taking it on and off daily as I do...since I do carry everyday everywhere I prefer to use that safety instead of making a new video on how my gun got caught on my belt loop and put a hole in my floor or my body...no offense but Tex already told that story I dont need to live that situation out, lol...I respect peoples decisions to carry how they want and support all safe gun owners, unlike some jerk offs who want to debate about how to do it, I know your respectful and Im not talking about you, but most of these dicks who scoff at what you carry and how only hurt us as a gun culture...we really need to stick together and show support, but these meatheads think if you do it different than them you might suggest they are doing it wrong and they cant accept they could be wrong so that means we are wrong, lol...pathetic...
It's great to see you coming over to the light side. I also carry a Beretta in that condition. However, my safety/decocker automatically flicks up when it is removed from the holster.
It's amazing how many people complain about the da pull on a beretta. Just get an 18lb hammer spring and problem solved. Skeleton hammer, #18 hammer spring, and then a extra power firing pin spring will work wonders for the feel on a Beretta.
I carry in condition butterscotch where, I saw this tacticool guy teach me how to do it. First you pull the frame out, assemble your weapon, guesstimate on how many bullets it will take to stop the guy, load up the mag and then rack one in the pipe and then go to work!
I have a Beretta 92 Brigadier which I love. I had it converted to a "G" model so the decocking lever no longer acts as a safety...you decock it and it snaps back up to the fire position.
Also has a firing pin block. It will not let thr firing pin move forward in any way without a complete trigger pull. Also the Beretta is safe and made to be carried safety off.
As many have stated the generally accepted carry method for the Beretta 92 is Condition 2, safety off. I switched from C0 with striker fired guns to C2 on my CZ75 for the added safety of being able to feel the hammer as I holster the gun, the DA pull is the safety as my CZ has no manual safety, just a decocker. But, you're more prepared than the Mall Ninja's so do what you like, just train daily on flippin that safety off.
Carried a Beretta 96 vertec for 4 plus years but have gone to a Glock 30 sf rebarreled to 460 Rowland and love its size and abilty to c ite any 45acp,plus p and 460 Rowland.
As a former LEO my firearm of choice was/is the Beretta 92 Brigadier Inox-9mm. During my tenure and even now in retirement I have always carried with one in the chamber, a full magazine, with the trigger in deactivation mode. It only takes a split second to flick the lever as I draw into action. This is the way I've always trained with it and it is ingrained in my memory. I find it advantageous to carry this way in the event my firearm is wrested away from my holster by a perp (s). I figured it would give me a few extra seconds to respond before the perp figures out how to operate the firearm and discharge a round. I looked at it as an extra safety provision that just might've saved my life...if anyone decides to carry this way be sure to develop that memory reflex from training first...FWIW
You're asking for trouble with the safety on. If you're ever in a stressful situation and you have to fire your gun, you don't need to have the problem of remembering to turn your safety off. I'd advise having one in the chamber, de-cock it and have the first round be a long trigger pull like a revolver. The long trigger pull is your safety. But that's just me. To each his own.
Safety equipped gun carry, cocked and locked, decocker equipped gun, chamber a round decock the gun and carry, the heavy trigger pull is the safety feature. My edc is a cz 75d pcr and this is how I've been carrying it for years, well half-cocked with the cz.
For combat effectiveness, I carry in condition -1, i.e. a constant stream of bullets I can redirect to a target at a moments notice- they’ll never know what hit em’.
DA/SA pistols will always have a place in the self-defense world...IMHO of course. There is just an inherent safety feature built into that design that a striker-fired pistol is never going to have. This is important not only for self-defense (shoot, no-shoot scenarios) but also different carry methods which may have varying levels of risk should a ND occur.
yes thats true, even though I have practiced racking the slide on my glocks with one hand using the sight its not easy to do and not consistent for me...
+cutlerylover you think you could do all that under stress? Look up on UA-cam, there's a video by a concealed carry organization that illustrates why you shouldn't carry anything other than condition I. You shouldn't go half in, either get comfortable enough to carry condition 1 or don't at all.
I carry a M&P9, striker fired weapon. No hammer to worry about. The gun has been designed to be carried chambered. It won't go off unless you pull the trigger. That said, a lot of people carry in condition three for a while, to get used to the feeling of carrying a gun. I did so for about three weeks, I think. Chambering that first round and walking out the door with it is a big decision, but once you get used to it, it is no big deal, AS LONG AS SAFE HANDLING IS OBSERVED.
I carry a glock 19 in condition 1 every day. if you have a good holster and carry properly its a non issue. I also think that a proper fighting handgun should not have any external safeties. not a knock on any guns reliability but I follow the kiss method for everything that I rely on to save my life
Hi I’m new to the hobby. When I rack my 92fs with safety on, it stays cocked. Then if i slightly push the safety, hammer drops...seeing your action, wondering if mine is defective? 🧐. It’s my favorite firearm to shoot though.
Most modern handguns have firing pin block safeties so the firing pin cannot be hit unless the trigger is in the rear position, thus eliminating the possibility to go off when dropped
Hey Jeff can you do a video showing your favorite holsters and carry options? Being a fellow big guy I just wanted to know what your carry system is for a larger pistol
Thats how I carry my PT92 , is chambered, decocked with the gun on safe,... The only gun I'd ever carry in condition 1 is a 1911,... and I would Never carry anything in condition 3 so Im glad you decided to change that ,.. Take Care,...
I have extensive experience shooting both double/single and 1911 style single action handguns-----favorites were a Taurus PT92AF and a Kimber Custom Classic 1911...... I've carried both handguns fully loaded (one in chamber) and also shot defensive sport shooting competition w/both guns. These days I like the feel and performance of a Glock 23 for daily carry..... --the key is to carry what is comfortable, as it is that particular gun that will most likely help you save your own life....
I used to carry mine like that, but decided I didn't want to take the extra step of taking the safety off so now I carry with one in the chamber and the safety off. The way I feel is If it wasn't safe to carry with the safety off then some military units wouldn't do it.
well the military do very different thigns than we do as citizens the military is in a combat zone and have more of a chance of having to use their guns compared to carrying them in an even safer manner...so its not a fair comparison...I get why you would do it but Id prefer to limit the potential problems a bit...
Nothing wrong with carrying with the safety on, just not my preference. Lol than again I live somewhere that isn't the safest place to live so I don't want to have to worry about the safety if I had to draw on someone(although I still do the thumb swipe just to be sure the safety is off when I practice drawing). Plus with all these crazy shootings going on I'd rather have it more combat ready. I'm considering getting the M9A3 if Beretta starts making it in black because I hate that tan color and I would love if it was an option to buy the M9A3 without the threaded barrel.
so now the next step is to try out a P226, or P229. I am willing to bet you would like it MORE then the Baretta, and best of all it has a decocker ONLY, no safety to disable a gun. The safest thing about the SIG's are the double action trigger pull, there is no way you could shoot the gun without intentionally pulling the trigger.
My girlfriend wore a 92FS for several years with a round in the chamber and cocked. It's just as comfortable as a Glock, but more safety than a 1911 that doesn't have a firing pin block.
I’ve been carrying here in Vermont for about 15 years. I primarily carried striker fired pistols but the Beretta 92 was always my favorite. You can certainly carry condition one safety with that 11 or 12 pound first trigger pull. Train train train see what works for you. That’s always the answer
Congrats on the new carry gun, have you considered having it converted to decocker only? You can carry it the same way just without having to worry about flipping the safety, Yankee Marshall has a few videos on his Wilson Combat converted Beretta with decocker only if you're interested
Good choice to convert. A few hundred reps and remember one thing... decock before holstering. decocking is the one thing that a person might overlook after firing and then deciding to holster. A few reps is all you'll need.
I carried without a round in the chamber for the first week or so. Everyone told me it was fine as long as you didn't pull the trigger but I wanted to be sure. A week of carrying that way proved it to me that it's just fine. Been carrying striker fire guns without safeties for years in condition one now. No issues, wouldn't ever go back.
I love my M9. She's a big girl, though, so summer carry is difficult with it. I will point out that it's fine to keep the safety off after you've decocked and the safety is probably unnecessary with the heavy DA trigger pull. The Air Force carries theirs this way. The G models of Beretta 92 series pistols are decocker only and they're highly sought after (I'm seeking one too). THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO REMEMBER TO DECOCK IT BEFORE REHOLSTERING.
you are right, Im slowly learning...I think because I make videos for others I do think too much about what they think...cant please everyone and I know its impossible to try...
would you say condition 2 on the Beretta is any faster then condition 3 on a glock. I've never tested it out side by side but I would assume their pretty close
You can carry the Beretta with a round in the chamber and the hammer back but just remember that when you draw the pistol you've got a very light trigger pull.
you can convert the safety to be just a decocker, I would de that so you won't get caught pulling a dead trigger when you need to shoot. anyways good to see you've become wiser in the way you carry!
My first 2 years of concealed carry I would carry condition 3 because I was new to handguns and honestly worried about an accidental discharge with my glock. But after talking to others and doing my own research I started carrying condition 1 at all times. Been carrying for 13 years now
A decocker AND a safety is unnecessary. That's why I prefer a Sig P226. Decocker gives you approx 10 lb first pull (just like a revolver) then around 5 lb for additional pulls. No safety, not needed.
As I mentioned in your other Beretta video, I think the manual safety on the 92 series sucks. Wilson combat offers a conversion to a decock only ( their G conversion) or you can also order a different lever from them. It will still be a safety-decocker with just the lever but it's less prone to being accidentally engaged. sootch did a video on some of Wilson's aftermarket parts that you might want to check out.
Glad you have that worked out now. I have used/carried 1911 style pistols for many decades and always carry cocked and locked. Going with a pistol format like you have means relearning many years of training and conditioning. Let us know what type/brand of holster and belt you end up going with. That pistol is an easy carry with the right gear.
Well you wouldn't have to do anything with it, everything you would want done, is done, no sending it in. Great for the range, USPSA, and IDPA. Great customer service too. There are some youtube vids on it, check them out.
I carried my 92F Condition 3 in Israel. But when I would rack the slide, I sometimes accidentally engaged the slide safety. Not cool! My solution: Traded the Barreta for an HS2000 (XD). Now Condition 3 makes more sense. Bring on the flames!
It does not matter what Condition you carry in. As long as your comfortable and train with it that way. you have to do what your more comfortable with. Does not matter what anyone else thinks.
General question - does keeping a full magazine damage the spring mechanism inside? Because it's constantly under full compression. Always wondered about this since for edc the mag spends weeks or months at a time like this. Thanks
Ah right, that's good to know. Would not be good if you were in a situation where you needed it and realized the mag wasn't cycling your rounds! Thanks dude.
You have to remember the 4 rules of safety as well as that safeties can fail. Biggest 2 safeties of any firearm striker fire or not are using your brain and finger control and as you put it don't touch the trigger and it won't go bang
Yes!!! It's nice to see people who get it, in my mind he is still condition 3 with that safety on! His mindset has not changed at all cause he still feels he needs that safety net.
without the safety even if I never touch that trigger it can still get snagged on my pants or holster while taking the gun on and off daily...Im a big guy so handling my gun is not the same as other people, unlike some people who are the firts to criticize they dont carry their guns every single day everywhere they go liek I do, so dafety comes first, its a step in the right direction, maybe one day Ill evolve to just holding it in my hand with the safety off and a round in the chamber this way I dont even have to draw it anymore, I mean you want to be as fast as possible right? lol all you guys with the gun in your holster are doing it all wrong, and are way too slow...
+cutlerylover sounds like you need a better holster system if your main concern is shooting yourself while pulling your pants off. the safety is between your ears dude. guns in holsters don't shoot themselves. take off the gun while it's in the holster and you have no problems.
You say you are carrying it "how it is intended to be used", but I think it is intended to be carried with a round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off.
Good advice that's likely to be ignored/buried. If someone is that worried about a 12+ lb DA pull going off in his pants and still chooses to turn the safety on? ...I don't think he'd be interested in a G.
well there are a ton of them and I dont have all of them to show on cam but maybe I can do a similar video in the future showing some good options for under $15 or something ...
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It's a double action pistol. It's very safe to carry with the safety on fire. It's no more dangerous than caring a revolver. A lot people have problems with 92f/M9 safety. Think of it as a decocker only, like the Sig 226. It just needs to manually place on fire after it's decocked.
I usually keep 2 bullets in the chamber. Just to be safe. I'm always checking to see what condition my condition is in.
Wow, what a noob. I actually rack the slide every 5 minutes or so, just to make sure that a fresh bullet is in the chamber.
dakickazz lol
+dakickazz really guys? I usually shoot the chambered round up in the air every 10 minutes to make sure that round wasnt a dud if an emergency arrived. Try it out it could be a LIFE SAVER!!!!
+Juan Ramv man, you got me beat.
I carry my gun pointed in front of me with my finger on the trigger. That way I'm always on target with zero chance of shooting myself.
It's funny how many of us are going back to double action pistols. I too converted back to a DA/SA pistol, but I'm carrying a CZ P-01 Compact. I, like you, left striker fired guns a year or so ago. I had several reasons for doing this, but I've always carried loaded with a round in the chamber. Since I carry appendix I figured a DA/SA pistol gave me a little extra margin for error given an unintentional discharge in that location of the body can prove to be fatal very quickly. I love the Beretta's but I opted for a smaller pistol in the CZ. I do want to get one of the Wilson Combat Beretta's one of these days though. Have you seen how the safety is configured on them? When you decock the pistol, the safety automatically returns to the fire mode, there is no manual safety -- just a decocker.
Nice to see Tim here!
It is great to see DA/SA make a comeback. I carry a px4 and it's great.
A lot of people never stopped carrying DA/SA's even before it resurfaced again as being popular. I'll admit that the fad also got me doing it again for a while, but then practicality took over and i went back to my gl----striker fired gun. Then practicality reared its boring head once again and i downsized to a subcompact striker fired gun. And its what i'll stick with. Not all of us have a sphinx (or two) to put a smile on our face in the morning. Its true what you say about the "margin of error" tho bc i find myself being overly cautious when holstering my striker fired guns. Funny thing is, no matter which gun "we" may be holstering or unholstering, we still dont even touch the trigger.
I bought a P-01 over a PCR because it doesn't have a safety. My shield also doesn't.
yeah i carry a berreta 92g which is the model that decocks and is ready to fire.
+vanslem6 just bought a PCR. It does not have a safety. It has a decocker.
I was trained many a year ago, to use my thumb to sweep the safety on the 92 when drawing from the duty rig. We had to do it hundreds of times during training. Shooting one round, holstering, practicing the thumb sweep until it was muscle memory. We were all issued the 92 and every class did the same. I carried my 92 on and off duty for over a decade, until I went with the G23, it never fails, I still thumb sweep an imaginary safety on my Glock.
Why not just carry it holstered with safety off? Less time wasted then pulling gun and firing.
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It honestly depends on the ergonomics of your safety. I find it extremely ridiculous when people complain on sweeping the safety when it almost literally holds no time difference in execution. Videos I've seen of guys doing so tend to be very exaggerated and it becomes obvious they never trained in really sweeping the safety.
You're lying
@justingalloway because the safety can be activated unintentionally, so if he trained to disengage it all tye time, whenever it was on (I wouldn't carry with a safety on, unnecessary) he'd take it off.
For me is
One in the chamber
Hammer down
Safety off
First shot is just like a revolver
Roger Garcia EXACTLY.
I concur. It’s a heavy DA pull, so unless you are just carelessly playing with the gun, you’re safe as a kitten in that condition.
Its true, when you first start getting used to the Beretta that hammer drop when you bring the slide forward always scared the hell out of me. But once you get used to it, you won't want any other pistol.
Incase you guys don't know what weapons conditions are, they are as follows:
Condition 1: Magazine inserted, round in chamber, slide forward, safety on.
Condition 2: Applies only to revolvers.
Condition 3: Magazine inserted, no round in chamber, slide forward, safety on.
Condition 4: No magazine inserted, no round in chamber, slide locked to the rear, safety on.
I know this post is old but still bad information. Condition two also applies to this and other guns. That is magazine in gun a round in the chamber and hammer down.
These aren’t the conditions I learned... Condition 3 is full mag inserted, no round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off. Condition 2 is round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off. Condition one is cocked and locked. Condition 4 is empty mag, empty chamber, hammer down. There is also Condition 0 which is ready to fire.
I can see condition 3 for a newer shooter. Just to get that bit of confidence in carrying
Same here, but I take it off safe because the double action pul takes a lot of effort. what's also nice is that you can hold your thumb on the hammer while re-holstering it
What the shit? Isn't the whole point of a decocker so that you can leave the safety off and use the heavy DA pull in lieu of the safety?
Yep, that is the intent of it, anyway.
Maybe three more years and he'll really actually use it the way it was intended.
Its called a "safety-deckocking lever" so that if you are in condition one and want to safely drop the hammer without firing a round you can put on the safety and the hammer will safely fall without you having to hold onto the hammer.
i love hammers and da/sa because i want one in the chamber and dont mind a long heavy da pull if i need it...if i have the time to prepare ill drop that hammer for the unfortunate event i may need to pull it and my shots will be easier...nothing happens? decock. LOVE THAT
Not if the decocker is also a manual safety.
I carried a Berretta M9 as my sidearm during the 4 years I served in the Marine Corps and I have quite a bit of experience with it. You should carry in condition 2 like u are. That first double action trigger pull will b somewhat of a challenge to get used to. It should serve u well for many years bro.
Sgt. Jason Edge, USMC
thanks, yeah Im getting use to that double action but its not a big deal for me, right now I have gone from having to rack the slide after I draw to flick a switch so its been much easier for me...despite what others think I will probably stick with this...
+Fn Tactical yeah that double action first trigger pull is pretty much another safety. U must really have intent in order to fire that first round.
+Jason Edge thank you for your service, sir.
+Tech for Kings Your welcome. Semper Fi
I also have carried the M9 service pistol... my only complaint that I have with the pistol is that the locking block will fail. That is after a lot of ammo has been fired through it but still, every range we went on there was always one pistol that broke.
I carry a wheel gun. No safety and no "condition" issues. If you can't handle an auto-loader then carry a revolver.
In the UK we only have two conditions, 1, rolled up newspaper in back pocket, and 2, rolled up newspaper in hand ready to strike, I am a condition 2 guy, so beware. Also side note, if a burglar trips up on your carpet he can sue for damages, I kid you not.
If it were me, I would use the de-cocker but then disengage the safety but thats just me. My normal carry is striker fired and has no safety. I don't mind guns that have them but I won't use them for carry as it is another thing to remember should you need to use it.
Yes, I carried my glock cond3 for a few months at first but then one day I realized, nothing bad will happen in cond1 if you follow/respect the rules of safe gun protocols and it's been four years and so far so good
See my thoughts exactly it should take a max of 1-2 months (not 8 years...) to realize that Condition 1 is the safest it can be for both you and your family (being responsible of course with the weapon and keeping it away from people or children that shouldn't have access to it) ect because its ready to use. I small point is if you carry in condition 3 you will always assume the gun is "unloaded" which could lead to a Neg discharge if you are not careful. Carry Condition 1 and KNOW the gun is ALWAYS loaded.
everyone has the right to do what they want like whether or not to speed when they drive or whether or not to buy mcdonalds for dinner instead of a salad...if your pro guns respect others decision to use their guns how they want as long as they are safe with them it doesnt effect anyone other than them...gun guys shitting on each other for what caliber they carry or what gun they have or how they carry only hurts all of us...
Been "pocket pistol" carrying since 1996. I still have both my balls.
I never intended to carry a gun myself but want to say I do like watching these videos to get your perspective on things
Would it be possible to make a video about how you comfortably carry a gun this big?
He's fat.
As a fat man I can confirm it makes larger guns easier to carry.
I'm 6'0 165 pounds and I carry a full-size M&P 9mm. You just gotta have a good belt and some can't on your holster. And it doesn't hurt to carry at your 4oclock or 8 o'clock if your a left handed guy.
Great choice in weapons. The 92 is my winter carry weapon of choice. (I carry a PX4 Storm Subcompact in t-shirt weather)
My decocker has been converted to a G type so I carry Condition 0. 12 pound double action pull, that trigger is not going off without some intentional yanking. But you are right do what works for you. Beretta's are very well engineered and very safe.
The Beretta 92 /96 has 3 internal safeties to prevent drop discharge including a firing pin block that only lifts when the trigger is pulled so even then the hammer back it will not fire if dropped. It is not designed to be carried cocked and locked so no sense in getting crazy. I have a glock as well. I like the Beretta betta. Shouldn't have said that out loud the Glock fan boys are going to come out of the woodwork and revoke my Glock now.
I am happy you switched your stance on this! I converted my Beretta (just like yours) to a G model that the de-cock is JUST a de-cock, not a safety. So I carry condition one, hammer down, safety off. Well isn't that dangerous? NOPE Did you see the piece that pops up just in front of the sight when you pull the trigger? That is a firing pin safety. It only moves when you pull the trigger. Unless it rises up the firing pin CAN NOT hit the primer. It is also for drop safety, in the event of a drop the firing pin again can not strike the primer. Your Glock has the same thing, as do most modern handguns, even pistols. Again, I am happy for you starting to carry condition one, and I am just passing knowledge along to make you feel even safer.
In Park you are correct about the gun not going off. I have had a slam fire before on a defective gun so the gun must always be pointed in the same directions.
I've owned and carried DA/SA for the majority of my adult life including the 92FS as well. I also had the Taurus versions, the PT92 - as well as the PT99 - and actually preferred the Taurus models. They had frame mounted safeties, which I just found more natural and seemed more durable. Plus, as rare as the occasion is, if you ever have trouble with it, Taurus will take care of it free of charge for the life of the gun, no matter what number owner you are. I lost a spring in my PT99 rear site, tried all sorts of hardware store springs because I didn't want to wait for what I figured would be like a couple months, but had no luck. Called Taurus, and they sent me the spring, along with an entire rear site for good measure. It was at my door in less than a week. And this was an older gun that went through a lot. But it functioned flawlessly. As nice as the Air Weight and GP100 are, the Ultra-Lite is the revolver I suggest to everyone I know looking for a revolver).
When I was younger, I usually carried with one in the chamber, decocked, but safety off. After many debates, and even more shooting, I began to carry one in the pipe, cocked, but safety on. Eventually, I picked up a Glock for a steal (like-new G27 for $300), which I grew accustomed to and began carrying it. At first I was scared of having no safety switch, so I carried with an empty chamber. I came to the realization that it's just a waste of time that I may need in a self defense situation. I don't put my finger on the trigger until I pull it anyways. So I began carrying with it chambered. I then switched my double-action pistols (HKs) to the light LEM triggers which were great. Some time later, I discovered the VP40. And that's what I now carry, with one in the pipe. I LOVE this gun. The only striker-fired compact .40 that isn't just a 9mm with stronger spring and wider barrel. It's got a heavier, larger slide. Especially at the muzzle. Which I theorize is to reduce muzzle lift on it. I couldn't say if it really makes a difference, I think so, but that may be placebo
I love how the Berreta's decocker works. My PX4 is just like that, and it is super safe. No worries about 1 in the chamber!
I agree, basically one in the chamber and safety on, extra round in the hole, half second to pop off safety. (if you have trained). If you ccw inside the waistband or tight to the bottom I believe its the best way to go.
I carry without one in the chamber, typically. If for some reason I'm in a place where I feel my odds of using it significantly increases, such as a downtown area, I'll move one to the chamber.
Most of the time when people "need" their gun, they aren't going to know ahead of time. Do you carry in a holster? Do you have proper trigger discipline? If you've answered yes to both of these questions, please carry in condition one. I remember when I started carrying, I would rack a round into the chamber before I put it in my holster and I would eject the round out of the chamber when I would take it off before bed. One night, I dropped the magazine on my glock 19 and pulled the slide back to eject the round. I pulled back and placed my palm into the air to catch the cartridge like I had done dozens of times before. Guess what happened? No round ejected. I had been walking around all day with a gun I thought was in condition one. God forbid I needed to pull my weapon that day and used it all I would have heard was a "click" of a firing pin on an empty chamber. I thought about it a lot the next few days, specifically if I would have had the mental capacity to tap and rack in a stressful scenario. Now I keep my guns loaded, and in holsters and I have yet to see one jump up and go off on its own accord. If i'm in a situation where I need to use it, I feel like eliminating a variable like an empty chamber can completely change an outcome if I need to defend myself. I'm not trying to be harsh, but you probably need to just give yourself more credit. I'm assuming you handle unloaded weapons like you would a loaded one. As long as your competent with the safely rules, you'll be just fine carrying a loaded firearm.
+Travis Jones I carry holstered. I have great trigger control but as a human I can't have perfect trigger control. I feel like in the long run of taking my gun out of the holster each and every day that eventually I could accidentally engage the trigger. Obviously, I feel the odds are incredibly minimal of that happening, but I personally feel that it outweighs the possibility of me ever actually having to discharge my weapon in self defense. Plus, it's not like I'm sacrificing carrying either, I still have my gun, it's just not quite as readily available as it could be.
you carry without 1 in the chamber? Than you carry a club, not a gun. Think about it. When do all failures happen?? Answer: When the slide moves. So why do you want to take a chance of having a malfunction when you rack the slide to make the gun go bang? Have 1 in the chamber already, and you are guaranteed at least 1 shot with no jams. "Shakes my head"
+XboobtubeX Think about it: when do 100% of accidental discharges occur? When there's one in the chamber. I'll carry how I carry, you do you.
AD very rarely happen with a DA first pull. Most AD happen with light triggers. Agreed, I would not carry with a light trigger gun. If you feel you have time to "rack the slide" continue doing what your doing. Watch some videos on the subject and see if you think you have time to rack the slide when you need it. The bad guy already has his ready to go and you will not. You are already at a disadvantage. Do as you do.
I carry a Beretta 92a1 and iam telling you Jeff. Put a D spring in yours and it lightens up that double action trigger alot.
I carry condition tactical butterscotch, look it up.
smartest way to carry. Period.
I carry my M9 decocked and safety off. Ive made the following mods to it. Ive added the wilson short trigger and the fluted steel guide rod happy with it
Thats why you carry a revolver and you don't need to worry about the safety or decocker :D
92 has a long and heavy trigger pull on double action, you could carry it with the safety off after a round has been chambered and the decocker has been used and there is 0.0000001 % chance you'd set it off unintentionally
Good on you. I look at it this way; a good holster adds another layer of safety and a concealed gun adds a level of retention.
When I first got a beretta I did NOT trust the safety decoder. Even after take down and physically examining how it worked I did NOT trust it on a loaded round until I decocked it at the range, pointing the barrel towards my target. I know i was being paranoid but shit now I trust that safety/decocker with my life.
Yeah, semantics I get it but to me that's not C1. If it requires another step to send a round down range it's C2 or C3. Just saying. Every man can decide what's best for him none of my business. But point being this is an example why I don't personally care for little acronyms or terms like numbered "conditions". Either you pull the trigger and it goes bang or you gotta do something else before it goes bang. Two conditions in my mind. It's hot or it's not. Just my two pennies
true but 100% of accidental shootings and ND's were when it was hot...this fat guy doesnt want to catch the trigger on his clothing or holster while taking it on and off daily as I do...since I do carry everyday everywhere I prefer to use that safety instead of making a new video on how my gun got caught on my belt loop and put a hole in my floor or my body...no offense but Tex already told that story I dont need to live that situation out, lol...I respect peoples decisions to carry how they want and support all safe gun owners, unlike some jerk offs who want to debate about how to do it, I know your respectful and Im not talking about you, but most of these dicks who scoff at what you carry and how only hurt us as a gun culture...we really need to stick together and show support, but these meatheads think if you do it different than them you might suggest they are doing it wrong and they cant accept they could be wrong so that means we are wrong, lol...pathetic...
It's great to see you coming over to the light side. I also carry a Beretta in that condition. However, my safety/decocker automatically flicks up when it is removed from the holster.
It's amazing how many people complain about the da pull on a beretta. Just get an 18lb hammer spring and problem solved.
Skeleton hammer, #18 hammer spring, and then a extra power firing pin spring will work wonders for the feel on a Beretta.
Good for you. I say go at your own speed. when I started to carry I was the same way but quickly converted as I became more comfortable.
great video. For people who dont want a safey. Even though its really not that big a deal. you can always get the G model/kit
I carry in condition butterscotch where, I saw this tacticool guy teach me how to do it. First you pull the frame out, assemble your weapon, guesstimate on how many bullets it will take to stop the guy, load up the mag and then rack one in the pipe and then go to work!
I have a Beretta 92 Brigadier which I love. I had it converted to a "G" model so the decocking lever no longer acts as a safety...you decock it and it snaps back up to the fire position.
Also has a firing pin block. It will not let thr firing pin move forward in any way without a complete trigger pull. Also the Beretta is safe and made to be carried safety off.
I carry a Ruger p95dc doesn't have a safety but does have the decocker and I find that double action single action trigger to be all the safety I need
As many have stated the generally accepted carry method for the Beretta 92 is Condition 2, safety off. I switched from C0 with striker fired guns to C2 on my CZ75 for the added safety of being able to feel the hammer as I holster the gun, the DA pull is the safety as my CZ has no manual safety, just a decocker. But, you're more prepared than the Mall Ninja's so do what you like, just train daily on flippin that safety off.
perhaps Ill do that in the future
Great choice of gun the M9 is a great firearm.
Carried a Beretta 96 vertec for 4 plus years but have gone to a Glock 30 sf rebarreled to 460 Rowland and love its size and abilty to c ite any 45acp,plus p and 460 Rowland.
You Going to do a review on the new gun?
As a former LEO my firearm of choice was/is the Beretta 92 Brigadier Inox-9mm. During my tenure and even now in retirement I have always carried with one in the chamber, a full magazine, with the trigger in deactivation mode. It only takes a split second to flick the lever as I draw into action. This is the way I've always trained with it and it is ingrained in my memory. I find it advantageous to carry this way in the event my firearm is wrested away from my holster by a perp (s). I figured it would give me a few extra seconds to respond before the perp figures out how to operate the firearm and discharge a round. I looked at it as an extra safety provision that just might've saved my life...if anyone decides to carry this way be sure to develop that memory reflex from training first...FWIW
You're asking for trouble with the safety on. If you're ever in a stressful situation and you have to fire your gun, you don't need to have the problem of remembering to turn your safety off. I'd advise having one in the chamber, de-cock it and have the first round be a long trigger pull like a revolver. The long trigger pull is your safety. But that's just me. To each his own.
Safety equipped gun carry, cocked and locked, decocker equipped gun, chamber a round decock the gun and carry, the heavy trigger pull is the safety feature. My edc is a cz 75d pcr and this is how I've been carrying it for years, well half-cocked with the cz.
For combat effectiveness, I carry in condition -1, i.e. a constant stream of bullets I can redirect to a target at a moments notice- they’ll never know what hit em’.
DA/SA pistols will always have a place in the self-defense world...IMHO of course. There is just an inherent safety feature built into that design that a striker-fired pistol is never going to have. This is important not only for self-defense (shoot, no-shoot scenarios) but also different carry methods which may have varying levels of risk should a ND occur.
i have one in chamber always cause some situations happen to where you only have one hand
yes thats true, even though I have practiced racking the slide on my glocks with one hand using the sight its not easy to do and not consistent for me...
+cutlerylover you think you could do all that under stress? Look up on UA-cam, there's a video by a concealed carry organization that illustrates why you shouldn't carry anything other than condition I. You shouldn't go half in, either get comfortable enough to carry condition 1 or don't at all.
That's exactly how I'd carry. I have a Beretta 9000s and the de-cocker doesn't work like that at all, though. Very interesting.
All good but you NEED to flip that safety off and use the long first pull as the "safety" or get the WC "G" conversion.
I carry a M&P9, striker fired weapon. No hammer to worry about. The gun has been designed to be carried chambered. It won't go off unless you pull the trigger. That said, a lot of people carry in condition three for a while, to get used to the feeling of carrying a gun. I did so for about three weeks, I think. Chambering that first round and walking out the door with it is a big decision, but once you get used to it, it is no big deal, AS LONG AS SAFE HANDLING IS OBSERVED.
What would you recomend for a first handgun? I am into guns(long guns) but never owned a handgun.
Go to a few gun shops that have ranges that rent guns and shoot them and see what feels and shoots well for you.
Beretta or Glock or a good wheel gun
This helps with people that just started carrying decide between condition 2 and 3.
I completely agree. I used to carry in three and now carry in two.
Well done!!
I carry a glock 19 in condition 1 every day. if you have a good holster and carry properly its a non issue. I also think that a proper fighting handgun should not have any external safeties. not a knock on any guns reliability but I follow the kiss method for everything that I rely on to save my life
Jeff just get a decocker from a reputable company. Its perfectly safe with a good holster. If you dont touch the trigger then whats the problem.
Hi I’m new to the hobby. When I rack my 92fs with safety on, it stays cocked. Then if i slightly push the safety, hammer drops...seeing your action, wondering if mine is defective? 🧐. It’s my favorite firearm to shoot though.
great stuff I have seen a rifle go off as it hit the ground falling it was an oldie but still fired cheers bro enjoy that puppy be safe
Most modern handguns have firing pin block safeties so the firing pin cannot be hit unless the trigger is in the rear position, thus eliminating the possibility to go off when dropped
Hey Jeff can you do a video showing your favorite holsters and carry options? Being a fellow big guy I just wanted to know what your carry system is for a larger pistol
I've been carrying conditional zero for years.
I keep the chamber empty with the mag loaded at home 24-7-366 (leap years)
When i leave my home i chamber a round and add +1 to the mag for a top off.
my beretta 96D is always at C1, and my model lacks a safety... still feel safe.
Thats how I carry my PT92 , is chambered, decocked with the gun on safe,... The only gun I'd ever carry in condition 1 is a 1911,... and I would Never carry anything in condition 3 so Im glad you decided to change that ,.. Take Care,...
I have extensive experience shooting both double/single and 1911 style single action handguns-----favorites were a Taurus PT92AF and a Kimber Custom Classic 1911......
I've carried both handguns fully loaded (one in chamber) and also shot defensive sport shooting competition w/both guns. These days I like the feel and performance of a Glock 23 for daily carry.....
--the key is to carry what is comfortable, as it is that particular gun that will most likely help you save your own life....
I used to carry mine like that, but decided I didn't want to take the extra step of taking the safety off so now I carry with one in the chamber and the safety off. The way I feel is If it wasn't safe to carry with the safety off then some military units wouldn't do it.
well the military do very different thigns than we do as citizens the military is in a combat zone and have more of a chance of having to use their guns compared to carrying them in an even safer manner...so its not a fair comparison...I get why you would do it but Id prefer to limit the potential problems a bit...
Nothing wrong with carrying with the safety on, just not my preference. Lol than again I live somewhere that isn't the safest place to live so I don't want to have to worry about the safety if I had to draw on someone(although I still do the thumb swipe just to be sure the safety is off when I practice drawing). Plus with all these crazy shootings going on I'd rather have it more combat ready. I'm considering getting the M9A3 if Beretta starts making it in black because I hate that tan color and I would love if it was an option to buy the M9A3 without the threaded barrel.
might want to explain what the condition 1,2 + 3 are.
so now the next step is to try out a P226, or P229. I am willing to bet you would like it MORE then the Baretta, and best of all it has a decocker ONLY, no safety to disable a gun. The safest thing about the SIG's are the double action trigger pull, there is no way you could shoot the gun without intentionally pulling the trigger.
My girlfriend wore a 92FS for several years with a round in the chamber and cocked. It's just as comfortable as a Glock, but more safety than a 1911 that doesn't have a firing pin block.
I’ve been carrying here in Vermont for about 15 years. I primarily carried striker fired pistols but the Beretta 92 was always my favorite. You can certainly carry condition one safety with that 11 or 12 pound first trigger pull. Train train train see what works for you. That’s always the answer
Congrats on the new carry gun, have you considered having it converted to decocker only? You can carry it the same way just without having to worry about flipping the safety, Yankee Marshall has a few videos on his Wilson Combat converted Beretta with decocker only if you're interested
It's a lot of money to switch over to decock and time starting with a non G model.
Can you make a video on what kind of carry ammo you use, what ammo you stay away from, anything you find "snappy". Stuff like that.
Good choice to convert. A few hundred reps and remember one thing... decock before holstering. decocking is the one thing that a person might overlook after firing and then deciding to holster. A few reps is all you'll need.
I'm very glad you're making the change you have a big fan base and one in the chamber is always better and no less safe with a quality holster
I carried without a round in the chamber for the first week or so. Everyone told me it was fine as long as you didn't pull the trigger but I wanted to be sure. A week of carrying that way proved it to me that it's just fine.
Been carrying striker fire guns without safeties for years in condition one now. No issues, wouldn't ever go back.
I carry a Beretta/Wilson combat 92G Centurion chambered and half cocked ready to go baby
I love my M9. She's a big girl, though, so summer carry is difficult with it. I will point out that it's fine to keep the safety off after you've decocked and the safety is probably unnecessary with the heavy DA trigger pull. The Air Force carries theirs this way. The G models of Beretta 92 series pistols are decocker only and they're highly sought after (I'm seeking one too). THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO REMEMBER TO DECOCK IT BEFORE REHOLSTERING.
you worry about what others think too much man.Just live it your way brother.keep on keepin on!
you are right, Im slowly learning...I think because I make videos for others I do think too much about what they think...cant please everyone and I know its impossible to try...
Your a good man.and really you mean well.I enjoy the vids.keep in touch.we learn something new every day.
would you say condition 2 on the Beretta is any faster then condition 3 on a glock. I've never tested it out side by side but I would assume their pretty close
You can carry the Beretta with a round in the chamber and the hammer back but just remember that when you draw the pistol you've got a very light trigger pull.
you can convert the safety to be just a decocker, I would de that so you won't get caught pulling a dead trigger when you need to shoot. anyways good to see you've become wiser in the way you carry!
My first 2 years of concealed carry I would carry condition 3 because I was new to handguns and honestly worried about an accidental discharge with my glock. But after talking to others and doing my own research I started carrying condition 1 at all times. Been carrying for 13 years now
A decocker AND a safety is unnecessary. That's why I prefer a Sig P226. Decocker gives you approx 10 lb first pull (just like a revolver) then around 5 lb for additional pulls. No safety, not needed.
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As I mentioned in your other Beretta video, I think the manual safety on the 92 series sucks. Wilson combat offers a conversion to a decock only ( their G conversion) or you can also order a different lever from them. It will still be a safety-decocker with just the lever but it's less prone to being accidentally engaged. sootch did a video on some of Wilson's aftermarket parts that you might want to check out.
Glad you have that worked out now.
I have used/carried 1911 style pistols for many decades and always carry cocked and locked. Going with a pistol format like you have means relearning many years of training and conditioning.
Let us know what type/brand of holster and belt you end up going with. That pistol is an easy carry with the right gear.
Jeff, get the Wilson Combat 92G!! Well worth the extra money. I carry the compact version and compete with the full sized. Sweet gun!!
Been looking at those but hesitant at twice the price of original
Well you wouldn't have to do anything with it, everything you would want done, is done, no sending it in. Great for the range, USPSA, and IDPA. Great customer service too. There are some youtube vids on it, check them out.
or get a regular 92fs and install a G decocker kit to save 4-500 dollars.
I have 92fs but carry a sig 226 mk24 as no safety just decocker to DA mode
Man I'm actually really stoked to hear this!
I carried my 92F Condition 3 in Israel. But when I would rack the slide, I sometimes accidentally engaged the slide safety. Not cool!
My solution: Traded the Barreta for an HS2000 (XD). Now Condition 3 makes more sense. Bring on the flames!
It does not matter what Condition you carry in. As long as your comfortable and train with it that way. you have to do what your more comfortable with. Does not matter what anyone else thinks.
So you can theoretically choose sa or da for you first shot..I'm learning so that's interesting to me.
yes thats correct, more option are good
General question - does keeping a full magazine damage the spring mechanism inside? Because it's constantly under full compression. Always wondered about this since for edc the mag spends weeks or months at a time like this.
Thanks
Nope it's fine. Spring wear is only caused when the spring moves(When shooting). So whether the magazine is loaded or not in storage doesn't matter.
Ah right, that's good to know. Would not be good if you were in a situation where you needed it and realized the mag wasn't cycling your rounds! Thanks dude.
You have to remember the 4 rules of safety as well as that safeties can fail. Biggest 2 safeties of any firearm striker fire or not are using your brain and finger control and as you put it don't touch the trigger and it won't go bang
You're kind of still bucking conventional wisdom; that first long harder DA trigger pull is the "safety" in this sort of configuration.
Yes!!! It's nice to see people who get it, in my mind he is still condition 3 with that safety on! His mindset has not changed at all cause he still feels he needs that safety net.
without the safety even if I never touch that trigger it can still get snagged on my pants or holster while taking the gun on and off daily...Im a big guy so handling my gun is not the same as other people, unlike some people who are the firts to criticize they dont carry their guns every single day everywhere they go liek I do, so dafety comes first, its a step in the right direction, maybe one day Ill evolve to just holding it in my hand with the safety off and a round in the chamber this way I dont even have to draw it anymore, I mean you want to be as fast as possible right? lol all you guys with the gun in your holster are doing it all wrong, and are way too slow...
+cutlerylover sounds like you need a better holster system if your main concern is shooting yourself while pulling your pants off. the safety is between your ears dude. guns in holsters don't shoot themselves. take off the gun while it's in the holster and you have no problems.
@@cutlerylover you need a better holster or lose some weight
You say you are carrying it "how it is intended to be used", but I think it is intended to be carried with a round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off.
convert it to a type g.
agreed... type G is way to go... no need for a safety with this gun. The long first pull is enough of a safety.
yeh, this gun has a safety, the type G has a decocker
Good advice that's likely to be ignored/buried. If someone is that worried about a 12+ lb DA pull going off in his pants and still chooses to turn the safety on? ...I don't think he'd be interested in a G.
That’s the type that shoots better sideways right
How much does is cost to convert it to a G model?
I like it. I'm looking to get my first pistol soon and I really like what I have heard about that gun.
Could you make a video on the best cheap EDC knives? That would be awesome
well there are a ton of them and I dont have all of them to show on cam but maybe I can do a similar video in the future showing some good options for under $15 or something ...
+cutlerylover that would be awesome! Thanks!
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It's a double action pistol. It's very safe to carry with the safety on fire. It's no more dangerous than caring a revolver. A lot people have problems with 92f/M9 safety. Think of it as a decocker only, like the Sig 226. It just needs to manually place on fire after it's decocked.