Yamaha Tenere 700 | Build Quality & Reliability!
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2022
- How well the Tenere is made?
In this video, I will share my opinion about Yamaha Tenere's build quality and reliability. I hope that it will help at least one person to make the right choice!
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Thank you very much, very good. I agree totally with you. Got my T7 in june and have done 3500 now. Very happy with it. Did a weekend course with an old enduro instructor riding gravel and single trail. You are correct when you say : I limit the bike, the bike doesnt limit me.
Glad it helped!
I like your stance on the importance of durability, ease of maintenance, and cost. For me, my bike is my partner. it's not me against my machine, I don't want anxiety along for the ride. Also, I can go a long damn way on the 25k some people spend on their bikes. Get out there and enjoy it!
Absolutely!
I've had 2 Yamaha products, the FZ1000 and a Rhino 700, both have been rock solid! The FZ1000 was faster than I could handle too.
Thanks for making awesome videos mate. Cheers from New Zealand
My pleasure!
Hi Pavlin, as usual, great informative video. Got myself a 660 tenere because of your channel and now seriously thinking of going for the 700. Keep up the amazing work. Doug.
Have fun!
Thank you for sharing the wonderful expert review and great video! We're all fortunate you share your experience, I'm very grateful and have learned a lot. There is nothing quite like a journey on a motorcycle. Enjoy every minute. From CT, U.S.A.
Glad it was helpful!
I really enjoy your videos, thanks. I live vicariously off road and touring Europe through you and Itchyboots . I ride locally here in Australia on my classic 84 Honda Magna VF750. Thanks again Pavel
Glad you like them!
Awesome video ‼️‼️thank you from Minnesota USA ‼️‼️
Good review.
Thank you for sharing this.
My pleasure!
Great video as always! I can confirm everything you said about the bike. Mine even survived being stuck in mud about two days. After that I checked all bearings all were ok except the one that links the shock with the swingarm, the dust seal was twisted a bit and water came through and damaged the bearing. The exhaust was not a problem for me because I got a the high exhaust from Huzar (really cheap, sounds great and it's restrictive enough not to lose torque on low rpms). Other than that only some flat tires but I kinda got used to changing inner tubes even though I don't have a central stand, I just find creative ways to balance the bike using the side stand. Another thing that I noticed is that you can change the rear brake pads just removing the pin, really easy if you have a rod to push the pin back in. Can't wait to see your next trip!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for a video
who is very honest about it being his own opinion and you don't need the most expensive thing available to be on an adventure
Thanks for watching!
Thankyou , very good review.
My pleasure!
Very good and pure review…
Glad you liked it!
I agree, you hit the nail on the head, and now I must go look at my Tenere and tell it how much I love her. She is sitting in my garage waiting for me to take her out and enjoy her. I have not ridden my honda or ktm since she came to live with me. Gracias
Go for it!
I agree totally with you👍
Good!
I did more than 25k km with my 2019 t7. Not a single issue. I enjoy my rides where ever I go. I don't understand why the T7 is not popular in Turkey. But I believe it will be. It's a great weapon of choice for any terrain and road.
Thanks for sharing!
I've also got a T7 which I've had for about 18 months. It's done roughly 20,000km and is due for it's second service. That service includes changing the spark plugs.
Yes, usually the spark need to be changed on 20,000km.
Got mine at the end of June 7400 on her now I think the bike is incredible for the price.If you compare it with bikes in the same price range I find the build quality quite good.People often tend to complain about certain things but this isn’t a 20k bike although prob much more reliable than one lol.Thanks for the vid!
I agree!
Great video thank you! I didnt know that you have to remove the fuel tank for replacing the spark plugs. I am learning something new each time I watch your videos. You mentioned in your world raid video that removing the dual fuel tanks could be tricky for sealing issues. How is it for the standart Tenere? I am a 1.80cm beginner rider. Trying you decide between Tenere and Toureg 660. Toureg's heating could be a problem in long term? Reliability?
Glad to help! Try them both , but I will advice to stay away from the Tuareg.
This is the way 😎🤘🏼
Good!
Loved my Tenere 700 and hated having to sell it, but I'll end up with another one soon enough.
Enjoy it!
Pavlin, I currently have a 2013 Yamaha TW200,
2017 Yamaha WR250R, and 2016 Honda NC700X..
[All 3 of them are literally Barely At Or Around the mileage Break-In]
TW - for Fun, WRR - for 80/20 Off-road, and the NCX - for 80/20 On-road:
At this point - I'd probably trade in or sell all 3 of them to get just one T7.
Great 'review' my friend! I always enjoy your thoughts and opinions!
[This also reinforces my thoughts and faith-in-the-quality of the T7]
Thanks again, and I'm super stoked to know that you're enjoying
your bike so much! That's what it's all about!
Sam -
Glad to help!
I own a 2021 Africa Twin Adventure Sports and am now buying a T7 too. 17 buttons on the AT, am really looking forward to the simple T7.
Good!
Thanks for your review of the 700. I have a 2020 KTM Adventure R with 30,000 km. I have had no problems until I took it to the KTM dealer for the 30,000 km service. Both camshafts were found to be worn beyond limits and would have to be replaced. Even though I no longer have warranty KTM is going to cover the cost for the camshaft replacement.
I am sorry to hear that!
Hi Pavlin I love my T7 as well and it's so true about the dashboard.
It would be very useful to have the engine and outside temperature always but it's a very small thing to complain about.
I have the same thing on my exhaust bracket where the hanger is bent.
But what I don't understand, why did you remove the rear wheel for brake pads? You can do it in 2min without removing the wheel.
By removing the wheel I can inspect, clean and lube the cylinders and bring them back without pressing the brake rotor.
Ha, I just rode From Sunny To Burgas...awesome seeing the video...and thank you very much for the T7 review. (I have 10k on my g310gs...also 0 problems...absolutely not one thing wrong).
Have fun!
@@motorcycleadventures I am almost 100000x sure I saw you a few days ago (2?)....but coming the other way. Am I right? Not many new Teneres around here.
Yes, it was me. On that day I filmed this video.
I am a traveler, by campervan and motorcycle and reliability is everything, everything else is secondary. Reliability is normally as a result of simplicity and all these driver/rider aids are superfluous, I know how to drive and ride. I may not win, but I will finish and that's my objective.
Love your rear rack, specifically that it doesn't hide the taillight, have you made a video about it yet? The out of the box peg tie down points are not working well for me.
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@@motorcycleadventures Thank you Pavlin, the handles and rack are even more special than I realized. Wish they would sell them to Americans, let them know we are not all bad.
Great video Pavlin, do you need to lift youre feet when shifting down?
Not at all. I adjusted the lever.
The T7 has just passed the Pavlin test?It has to be solid.glad you are still happy.Thanks.
Sure is!
👍nice
Thanks!
A Swiss army knife does most things pretty well,but is not perfect at anything.
This is the Yamaha Tenere.
Most people carry a Swiss army knife...
And there are a lot of Teneres on the road. For a reason.
For me too tall. But I loved my test ride.
A superb all rounder.
Happy, safe travels 👍
Well said, thanks!
thankyou
You're welcome!
Thanks
Thank you, Ron!
What are your thoughts on the height and balance? Maybe its just in my head, but it feels like it wants to drop easier then other bikes I had. Can absolutely recommend putting crash bars on. Well worth the extra weight.
It is top heavy, like 95% of the bikes.
Btw, you can remove the rear foot pegs, it will lose some weight and prevent you from injury if you fall and the bike slides. Keep rolling mate
I prefer to keep it.
Здравей Павлин, поздравления за ревюто - супер е. Ако може да препоръчаш дилър/представителство?
Благодаря! Ами той дилъра е един за България, с София. Аз лично го взех от Варна - Диана Мото.
confirming that me and other owners of Yamaha machines have no problems whatsoever. service stations here (in Croatia) are sometimes (spring, late autumn) crammed with regular maintenance interval tasks (at recommended km warning + season preparations), but nothing else. that's also an advice: when buying a machine (valid also for cars and other stuff), first visit service stations (authorized) and then decide. never go directly to the dealer.
Thanks for sharing!
agree good bike 👍👍
Good!
In Australia we have all riding conditions. No issues at all with the bike. Compare that to my KTM 690, stalling issues, not starting when hot, motor failure issues. I know the T7 bike will keep going and going. People talk about the top heavy. Most bikes have the same motor and tank arrangement . When the tank is full yes the bike is heavier, but I don't feel like the bike is going drop to one side or the other. Remember there is a heavy motor sitting below the tank which will help off set the tank weight. In short the tank design could had been better. I spent just below 2k on the suspension which made the bike a joy to ride.
I completely agree!
Hello Pavlin, good video. I even think you shortsell the T7 a little. There is no BMW or KTM that has the reliability of the Yamaha and the plastic that could be better is just a question of better adjustment, but the parts fill their function perfectly, if I read all the T7 users right. The price of spares is low and easily available everywhere and the reliability is among the very best. So what more can one want?
Good point!
The bike is great , other than the suspension compared to other models in the same bracket . Yes they are more money but when you upgrade the suspension they end up costing the same . Also this bike is top heavy reason I sold mine
I do not have plans to upgrade the suspension any time soon and I can live with the top heavenliest.
'Top Heavy" is subjectable. Top Heavy compared to what? If you compare it with a boxer engine, every ADV bike is top heavy.
People tend to say it's a top heavy bike. Yes might be but I think it's fair we also consider the height of the motorcycle and it's terrain clearance. When compared with other motorbikes, it's quite large and high. But I love it as I know it can manage terrains smaller bikes would struggle with. Of course it's not an enduro - it's still pretty heavy for any rough terrain, at least for me, but I strongly believe it's a great compromise and great match for the purpose it's built for - adventure rides and travelling. With proper clutch control technique and countersteering top heavy is not a problem for me at all despite I even made it more top heavy with large top box ;). I wouldn't swap it for a lower bike at all now, I'm pretty satisfied with this bike, great choice.
Also emergency braking is fun, it's pretty stable in heavy decceleration, I think it would be difficult to put it on its front wheel.
Hiya. A few questions. Are planning to go deep in Asia again? If you had the money would you rather buy the new World Raid version or still buy this one today? I'm planning to change my bike from Suzuki V Strom to yamaha tenere or Africa Twin, and travel like you did a few years ago-i love that film, always watch it. but like you say less weigh, power is sufficient, would 16 Litres be enough, I'd still have to carry extra 5 or 10 Litres with me. Love your channel ❤
I have zero interest of buying the new model with bigger tank. 16 l are more than enough. If I need more I will take a petrol can. Yes, I plan to visit Asia again.
@@motorcycleadventures I'm planning to do a similar route you took, except going back through Russia unfortunately. If you could make a video about the countries you visited, tips and other things I'd really appreciate it. If you ever through southern Poland, Kraków area you always a place to stay. Best of luck 👍
Pavlin, good review. In the end bike is nice and it will get you there. All the niggles or poor design you learn to live with that. It is what you do with the bike not what it has or donsent have. It is good that Yamaha didnt decided to go Bmw, Ktm way and keept fairly low price compare to competiton. Ride safe.
Yes, there is no perfect bike, they all got some pros and cons.
@@motorcycleadventuresI agree 100%
Good!
I love mine too. 🇨🇦
Good!
Did you notice if the brake are weak!
That's why I got the 2022 MT07 the engine is bullet proof on these!
True!
I fully agree with Pavlin. The only major problem i had with TENERE was the fact i could not lift it on my own when i dropped it down... 😭😭😭😭
It is not a light dirt bike, but still manageable.
Most folks i see can lift it no problem, ive seen a lot of women lift it as well 🤷♂️
do you even lift bro?
I have to admit I don’t have an issue with the fuel cap, when I remove my gloves to fill the tank I put my gloves where the ignition is and sit the cap on my gloves, not a problem.
As for the temperature gauge thing, that is not an issue because it is either hot or cold the actual number is irrelevant, I always have it set on the trip meter anyway.
As for cruising speed 100-110 is good, I noticed over that fuel economy suffers, it seems to go from 4.3 to 5.3 easily once over 120, sit on 140 it will drop to 7.3.
They are just a few observations I have made with my T7.
Cheers 👍👍👍👍
But I still prefer my trusty old DR 650, still the same one I had when you came out to Australia. 😂😂😂😂😂
Fair enough! I don't want to ride my old Tenere anymore.
Hi, what company do you get your crash bars from?
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Hi Pavlin, I have a 3D printed flexible hinge designed to keep the fuel cap attached to the tank. If you want I can send you one as a thank you for all the video's I have watched. Let me know if you are interested!
Yes please! Drop me an-mail: rtw-adventures.com/contacts-1.html
nice video! 👍👍
concerning reliability every bike coming from Japan is reliable by default: Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki.
Yes, true!
Which is way the Japanese bikes took over in the 60s and 70s. There where better bikes, but the Japanese bikes always got you home.
Had a Honda 350, classic in its simplicity, then a Honda 750, more complex and did not have a kick start. Great road bike, and fast,to fast.😅
Friend had a Norton, great bike, if it started.
🤙🏻
Thanks!
Think you forgot one small fault. Remember the issue with the faulty front tyre causing a shake in the handlebars. Not a Yamaha fault maybe, but it was the Pirelli OEM fitted equipment. And as far as I know Yamaha are still fitting these tyres at the factory. You are not the only one to have found this problem.
Most stock tires are junk on Adventure and Dual Sports.....sucks to say, but it's usually true, the Best thing is to rip those stock tires RIGHT off immediately!......also realize, they always give you tires that Suck off-road, because Yamaha is worried about "lawsuits", which can only happen On the road....... so they give you Street Tires....even if they Look off-road, they are not....you need to research before taking Any of these bikes off-road, tires are crucial....I ran into this problem with a 2022 DRZ, tires looked meaty.....Nope, 90% street tires!
The tires are not permanent for the bike.
Should have clarified. I was talking about Pirelli scorpion str 21"front. Fitted as standard on new bike. It was fine. Replaced by me with same tyre after many thousand km. Replacement tyre had fault that caused handlebar shake. Pavel had same issue. It's a known issue with this tyre. Not all of them, but not uncommon.
Which luggage rack did you mount?
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Is the air filter easy to change?
Yes, it is under the seat.
Has the chain needed much attention so far?
No, just spreed it once per 500km
Good!!! Nice to hear.
But you meantion some expensive Honda models with good quality. I haven't seen one last 25 years
There are some, like Goldwing.
@@motorcycleadventures there is a goldwing. Not that much behind the BMW with the build quality...
The switch gear on the Tenere is much simpler and likely more reliable because of it . BMW switch gear is more complicated and does fail from poor design . In the last 3 months the clutch switch and complete left handlebar unit failed on my GS . My knees are still wobbling at the replacement cost .
Sorry to hear that!
@@motorcycleadventures Unfortunately at the time of the switch replacement the dealer said that BMW have issued a modification to be done on the rear underside of the shaft drive housing, which basically is to drill a hole ,and put a rubber one way valve in " to let any water ingress escape" .They also have to test the shaft drive itself for vibration with a machine ,and replace failures .Some bikes will get a new driveshaft automatically based on mileage . At my next service my dealer will carry out this work . Almost all LC shaft drive bikes from 2013 on, need to be checked ,and the number worldwide is 440,000 . Once again, poor BMW design , Pavlin
No corrosion on the wheel spokes? Lots of owners seem to be complaining about this.
Not on mine
In the UK we say. Jack of all trades king of non
Fair enough!
I clocked 15 k in a year and the fuel gauge is still driving me crazy. Bike is eating lots of rear brake pads (offroad) . By far the best bike I ever owned.
Thanks for sharing!
Fuel gauge is kind of crazy :). It makes me often nervous too. Goes pretty fast from 4th bar down to first bar and then flashing bar (reserve). I usually don't want to believe I can ride another 100 km on reserve. Haven't tried it ever, my record is 80 km and then I rather re-fueled. But I only refueled something around 13.7L max while the tank should be 16L. And I'm sure I refueled it to the top of the recommended maximum level when the bike was on kick stand. Normally I usually refuel at ~ 11.5 - 12L. Couldn't believe it can manage ~400km per 1 fuel tank but it's not a problem.
Now when the last bar starts flashing, I'm calm as I know I can safely make another 70km and there is still nice reserve.
The same to me.
@@jakubpukovec7755 I tried it with a spare fuelcan with me. Exactly at 100 Km the engine stopped.. So i would say 90 km can be done. But I am gonna trie it again once more...just to be sure. 🙂
how come u don't have "balls" on the end of the brake and clutch levers ... ? did you cut them off ?
Yes, I cut them.
Pavlin we're still waiting for this bike to arrive in Brazil. Yamaha doesn't want to sell us...
Well...nothing we can do about it!
Yamaha all the way. Totally reliable
Agree!
How tall are you?
Do you think 175cm is enough to handle the Tenere savely?
It will be to tall for you. I am 185cm
If you are curious I am 177 and have the lowering links and the lower seat option and it just bearable to use.
The bike is top heavy so you have to be a bit wary when parking the bike, it just takes time to adapt and it can be awkward to get off the side stand if the camber of the road makes it lean over too far.
I am 177 and only use the lower seat option. I ride it both offroad and in Istanbul city traffic. I got used to using my left leg only to stand.
Thx 👍 I think ill go with the lower seat only.
😁 169 and its fine for me ! Offroad and on road. Touratech onepiece low comfort seat. The seat is Magic compared to oem! Worth every penny
Very good review, but I look almost all your video and I know how you like yamaha) So this review cannot be on 100% objectively). For example, for me the best universal motorcycle is Honda nc750xd and if I make reviews, it will be number one). But Tenere I also very like. Now I'm in Varna byt I leave my NC in Odessa. Very missing about my baby. Good luck and more adventure to you! Regards
Fair enough, but I never said that it is the best bike.
I want to say that the best bike it is bike what you ride.
It is not the best but work well for me.
Good machines. simple, reliable, take you just about anywhere you want to go. Service is easy and not so time consuming. Yamaha makes three versions of the is bike so a dealer should have necessary parts on the road. Simple to maintain. I've ridden Yamahas on and off since 1973. Sold them for several years. Gone a long way , seen a lot and made it back in home from all parts of North America. Spent a lot of time on KTM's, Suzuki's, Honda's and over 25 BMW's of all types. Have a lot of accessories for this Yamaha, all of my choice and really only a handful that are really needed. It could be better finished and have tubeless wheels, bigger tank but you get what you pay for. Ride on RTW.
Fair enough!
Now do it please with a f800gs
I cannot, because I don't have it. Can you give me yours for such a test?
@@motorcycleadventures ok :-)
Yeah you can have my. Pick up in Switzerland :-)
Ok, will give it back after one year...
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Thanks for taking the time!
I have no more of my favourite drink but ill assist anyway
Fair enough!
149 is it's cruising speed with knobbies and 179 with pirelli
Cruising and top speed are two completely different things.
@@motorcycleadventures yep. top speed of this bike is 207km/h, 211km/h downhill
Forget it. I found them. Heavy Duty Romania.
Yes
Thanks
If I won (I would not buy) KTM or BMW ADV I would sell & buy
a Tenere.
Good!
SHOW FILM FROM FUELING GAS ON STATION, PLEASE. BECAUSE ITS VERY WEIRD, SHOW HOW MUCH FUEL YOU CAN PUT IN IN REALITY! DO YOO SPLASH FUEL ON TANK AND EVERYWHERE AROUND BECAISE ITS BAD ENGINERED, I WANT TO SEE IT. I PUT 12 LITRES, SPLUSH EVERYWHERE, AND CONSUMPTION IS 4,5 LITRE, SO RANGE IN REALITY IS 260KM.
I had more than 20,000km. Refill it many times. Consumption no more than 4.5l. Most of the time 4l per 100km. Tank capacity 16l. Range 300km. I never ride fast.
@@motorcycleadventures no. Show movie how you pour fuel in REALITY WITHOUT FAKE please. Again, in reality its bad enginered. Fuel tank maybe has got 16 litres, but only on paper. In reality the capacity is much smaller. Reserve indicator is bad enginered too. Tank is too small, its why i write this post. But MORE its bad enginered! Fuell intake has hole aboot a few cmeters lower than filler. And its level of fuel to witch you can pour fuel without nervous. But its ONLY 10 litres, after riding 50km with reserve blinking. So i want pour more, and then it start splash everywwhere because i have to take 'gun' a little far from inlet. And after few moments of splashes and bad words i can pour 2, 5litres more. And there is known problem with pressure in tank, that engine no start on sun. I paid so much money in Poland for that bike, where average salary is 850usd that im very disapointed with my april2022 t7. And fuel consumption with 4 litres is possible only wtih minimal revs, and small acceleration. So we ride like on moped to get normal range. Yamaha enginers should be fired or should be call from dealers on change tanks to normal capacity, 18,19ltres. I dont like engine hot temperatures too, it easy get 105 deegress, with so simple engine without covers. So i can say again that its not enginered with mind, and i paid, in much part, for yamaha brand. Now i know it and next time give a chance to others. Its my first new bike, and said how small average salary is in poland, and i want decent product for my aproximetly 12 months work (without eat)
If I had to make a comparison with the automotive world this would be a kind of S.U.V. : it's ok in most situations and not specialized in anything. Maybe that's the reason people like them.
Agree!
Stock tires are Usually crap on adventure bikes! I don't care Who makes them! They might "look" off-road worthy......but looks can be SO deceiving with Adventure bikes.....you need to actually Look up the tire to see Exactly what it's designed for.....tires are All compromise with adventure bikes, learned this the Hard way!! Trust me, never assume anything with off-road tires.
I will agree that they are compromise.
Unfortunately in India the dealers are the only ones that carry parts and they will not sale you any parts for any of the high-end bikes so if you live in Asia stay away from yamaha if you want to ride long distance
Fair enough!
Anyone else want badly to wash the petrol off the tank when he spilled those 3 drops on it. I feel compelled.
It is just a bike...a tool!
@@motorcycleadventures I crashed my fully loaded and protected $29,0000 GS and $21,000 Tiger 900 RP within a month of them being delivered, because in my view, they’re for off-road and crashing. I’ve low-sided a $28,000 S1000RR and an $12,000 R7 on track. However, I hate degrading or destroying them with anything that isn’t in the endeavor of riding them in tough terrain, pushing it on track, and exploring. They go through enough with my abuse and I look after my tools too so they can look after me. That’s just me though. I made the comment as I was wondering whether anyone else was feeling the same way, and apparently not. Ride on my man.
Don't agree with very low price. In South Africa more expensive than a Suzuki S presso motor vehicle. Also much more expensive than yamaha MT07
Fair enough!
Just looks so cheap with that e-reader display.
Fair enough!
Not for two up, pass.
Yes, it is not for two people.
O problems because it has zero options and zero functions... Bare bones motorcycle