"In California, Wyatt Earp also befriended a young actor named Marion Morrison who would later change his name to John Wayne and would become an American acting icon. Director John Ford hired John Wayne as a prop boy and extra, so he had the opportunity to meet Wyatt Earp. He made an impact on the young actor who later credited his walk, talk, and persona to his acquaintance with Wyatt Earp and on one occasion he reportedly said, “Earp was the man who had actually done the things in his life that I was trying to do in a movie. I imitated his walk; I imitated his talk”." So, watching John Wayne is a bit like seeing Wyatt Earp.
One bit of information that most fans of this movie already know but is easily missed by first time viewers is that Ringo was afraid of Doc since the cup twirl. Not only was Doc mocking him with the cup, but every move that Ringo done with the gun, Doc matched it move for move with the cup. Ringo having the trained eye of a gunslinger noticed that.
More so that Ringo became aware that he was in the presence of a real gunslinger. The twirling of guns was something that cattel drivers did out of boredom on while moving cattle across plains for weeks on end. It was basically a fidget spinner to them. Doc was a real gunslinger that didn't toy with his guns and only used them to kill. Even in his worse, physical condition he was in an entirely different league than Ringo.
What's more, he did it PERFECTLY after watching him once. No practice to mimic the routine, just right there on the spot. And all while keeping locked eye contact and a stoic expression, no sign of effort or difficulty.
@JustoOBrien-vh6tu What happened in real life is irrelevant. It's not even known for sure how Ringo really died. Officially, his death was ruled a suicide. I'm just talking about the movie.
Easily of the most incredible films of any genre. It’s so cinematic and beautifully shot, written, and acted. When you get a little older and friends drift away and family starts dying, that scene after Wyatt “walks on water” and Doc is asked why he’s there because he should be in bed, and Doc says “Wyatt Earp is my friend.” And the other guy says “hell, I got lots of friends.” And Doc solemnly replies, “I don’t.” That shit hits home pretty hard. Great stuff.
And, Tombstone/OK Corral are actual places and actual events. I have been to the town and walked in that Bird Cage theater and crystal palace saloon. Also, Fly's photography and the OK Corral where the gun fight took place.
It amazes me how little is actually taught in American schools these days, I've seen so many reactions to this film and how very few know anything about the subject.
To be honest I doubt much history was taught even 50 years ago. I was never taught about the OK Corral in history (To be honest it has very little historical significance in most of the country). I live very close to the "Battle of Athens" aka "The McMinn Co War" and was never taught about that in school. I learned about both via books, films (fiction and documentaries) and popular culture. To those that don't know, Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson were both close friends of Teddy Roosevelt and used to vist him at the White House while he was president.
@texaspatriot4215 Because in terms of historical relevance, it doesn't have any sure. It's a very cool piece of American Western history. But when we're talking in terms of world wars the civil war The war of independence the war of 1812 It has very little historical relevance.
All of the characters are based off of real historical characters. Also, not all “cowboys” were in gangs or were gangsters. There is without a doubt a difference between cowboys and outlaws. The outlaw gang portrayed in the movie just happened to be cowboys who turned to evil to “survive” back in the day. Tombstone will forever til my last breath be my all time favorite movie!
Wyatt Earp was a household name when I was young. Way before tombstone… the movie anyways. Everybody knew Wyatt Earp was a real sheriff. The shootout at the OK Coral was a common reference to any situation that devolves into chaos. But then…When I was born, Wyatt had died just 50 years prior. If you like the shootout at the ok coral story, there’s plenty other real legends, other than just Billy the Kid. Davy Crockett, John Wesley Hardin, etc. . . One interesting one is Cynthia Ann Parker, and even better her son Quanah Parker.
@@jrag9435 To the best of my knowledge he was never a Sheriff or Deputy Sheriff. He was a Deputy Town Marshal in Dodge City KS under two different Town Marshals and a Policeman in Wichita (where the city council refused to renew his contract because he beat up a candidate for County Sheriff). He was a Deputy Town Marshal in Tombstone and then Deputy US Marshal for the Arizona Territory. I'm unaware of any law enforcement terms during his time in the Black Hills, but some may have info I don't.
Out of the 50 or so Hollywood productions, most accurate potrayal of of Earp and Holliday ever..The friendship between them started after a Ft. Sumner card game that wound up with Doc shooting the loser in self defense, but the locals wanted to hang him anyway. Earp stepped in and stopped it, which is why Doc was so loyal to him. Final note: When he died in 1929, Wyatt was a set advisor on early western movies and PT boxing writer for the LA times. He was an early practitioner and any thug who challenged him to "Put down his gun and fight" would be painfully obliged, then still taken to jail...That's how tough of a lawman he was.
I wouldn't have expected someone of your generation to recognize him, but give some love for the actor who played John Hooker was none other than the legendary Charlton Heston.
Thank you for saying this!!!! I actually said out loud while watching that scene ….. “maybe y’all watched a western or two with a great grandpa or something and y’all will recognize him….” Alas lol no not even a clue ….. although I find I am growing increasingly more sad that as more and more people get introduced to this masterpiece, less and less know who Sam Elliot (Vergil Earp) is…..
and yes, this is based on a true story, yes, some of the details were "Hollywooded" up, but the crazyiest shit actually happened, like Wyatt not getting shot at the creek.
Yes, this is all a true story. The Shootout at the OK Corral is a very famous gunfight. The Cowboys were just the name of the gang they fought here. Not every cowboy was a crazy gangster. There are so many incredible actors in this movie. Good guys, bad guys and everyone in between.
i've never thought about the whole "4 horsemen" thing.. I think you're absolutely right, Virgil is War, Wyatt is Death, Doc is Pestilence, and Morgan is Famine. I'd argue that Morgan is famine because he was "hungry" to experience action, even killing someone. he also was hungry for spiritual truth.. talking about life after death and all that. that's a cool idea even if it wasn't intentional by the writers
I think since the movie itself references that verse of the bible on 2 seperate occasions, it seems intentional by the screenwriters. It's one of the "romanticized" parts of the film as opposed to the historically accurate parts. And I agree with your assessment of "Virgil is War, Wyatt is Death, Doc is Pestilence, and Morgan is Famine"
Val Kilmer was just superb in this movie. I remember seeing this at the theater when it came out. Y’all should look up the histories of Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp. Both interesting historical figures. Did y’all recognize Billy Bob Thornton as Johnny? The scene with Wyatt in the creek shooting at Curly Bill actually happened.
Yep totally true. I think Wyatt only took a bullet to the coat, not to his body. Maybe to his boot heel. Either way, he did do what they portrayed in the movie. Imagine that. Amazing.
TL;DR: watched this movie with some friends when it came out. It was so good, we watched it two more times in a row instead of meeting with some ladies for dinner after the first showing like we were supposed to I was in college when this came out. Some guys and I were supposed to see the movie on a Friday night and then meet up with some ladies afterwards for dinner because they didn’t want to watch it. We ended up watching it three times in a row and blew off the ladies. As this was the early 90’s, we didn’t really have a means to let them know we weren’t coming. When we all showed up on day morning to class, they were pissed off at us…rightly so, as we didn’t call them on Saturday to explain ourselves. The professor knew something was off with the atmosphere in the room, so he asked what was going on. The ladies told him we never showed up to dinner on Friday night. We explained why. He told everyone to get over it for the time being and he would watch the movie that night to see if we were justified in watching it three times in a row and not meeting up later. Wednesday morning he came into class, sat down, and to the class we were absolutely correct to watch it three times in a row…as he watched it twice in a row himself. The ladies were mad, so the professor told us guys that we owed the ladies a nice dinner and a movie of their choosing at the very least. If we didn’t take care of that by the following Monday morning, we would be docked 5 points each on our final. Monday morning the ladies told him they decided to watch the movie with us after dinner to see what the rave was all about. When the professor asked if they understood, they all said yes…and while it was more violent than they would have normally watched, they could see why it was so appealing to men. Of course, the male actors were also a huge part of the reason the ladies liked the movie. Anytime Kurt, Val, Sam Elliott, Bill Paxton, Michael Biehn, Jason Priestley, and/or Billy Zane were on screen, the ladies would giggle. They hated Steven Lang (Ike Clanton) though…with a passion.
One of those few films where every character was perfectly cast, every line perfectly polished and crafted. This movie never gets old after all these years.
The scene Doc twirls the cup is the moment Ringo becomes afraid of Doc, Doc is doing what Ringo did, drunk, and with a cup. You can see it in Ringos eyes in that moment he becomes afraid
You can still visit the original Tombstone in AZ. I was there 25 years ago, had a beer in the Crystal Palace, walked down the main dirt covered streets, but we missed the daily re-enactment of the shoot out at the OK Corral. It is about 90 minutes southeast of Tucson.
Wyatt's wife was as opium addict. Laudanum was basically an alcohol and opium based concoction that was sold as a 'over the counter' medicine back in the day. Many became addicted to it. It's really sad.
So many UA-cam movie reactors get confused about this. Of course, I'm an old guy that grew up watching westerns on TV during the 1960s. 🙂 I remember watching reruns of "The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp" (originally aired on ABC from 1955 to 1961) with Hugh O'Brian in the title role.
This was based on a true story, but obviously there are things that changed or altered to make the movie better. Val Kilmer’s best role by far. I’ve been to both Dodge City and Tombstone. Worth the visits.
The rancher they held up with near the end was played by the great Charlton Heston and the movie was narrated by the also great, Robert Mitchum. Yes, this is based on legendary lawman, Wyatt Earp and the Gunfight at the OK Corral. Kevin Costner made a much longer movie about Wyatt Earp, titled, "Wyatt Earp" that is well worth a watch.
The accuracy is no joke! The Judge Spicer mentioned in this film is an ancestor that my late grandmother, a genealogist, confirmed that I am related to!
As much as you guys enjoyed this movie, think how much guys like me who grew up with the Westerns of the 1950s and 60s loved it. And yes, most of this was based on true accounts of these characters ans times. The shootout at the OK corral is legendary. Many movies made about it. Kurt Russell wanted to be as faithful as possible in telling the story. I could go on, but Westerns are a wonderful genre that many will provide great entertainment. (and yes, there are some bad ones out there, but more than enough great ones) A little trivia: Marshall Fred White was played by a very famous and well liked actor, Harry Carey Jr, (158 credits) whose father was also a great Western actor from the 20s and 30's. Also, Henry Hooker (the rancher that let the gang stay at near the end of the movie) was played by another Hollywood legend - Charlton Heston )129 credits including Moses in the Ten Commandments. If you seek recommendations on more Westerns - Silverado, Open Range, Unforgiven (modern era) and older classics - Shane, My Darlin' Clementine, and most any John Wayne western especially those directed by John Ford.
The Characters in the Film were real people! I've been to Tombstone half a dozen times and to Boot Hill Cemetery and The Birdcage Theatre! They do Reenactments of the Famous Gunfight at the O.K. Corral Daily! You can spend a whole Day!
Wyatt Eurp was a lawman in Dodge City, Kansas. Doc Holiday had been a dentist, but after he was diagnosed with TB, he became a professional gambler, hooking up with a woman called, BIG NOSED KATE. HE was also a very good shot with a .32.
@@karimhicks8376 yeah, i hear ya & I'm with you on that...BUT 💁🏻♀️ it reads weirdly. the all caps felt derogatory - not the other way around - as you just explained. maybe just say that. you know most humans read 'all caps' & interpret it as if it were yelling - and not in a good way. 💁🏻♀️ just a suggestion ( just sayin).
If you want to see another all-star cast movie that is right out of history, you've got to do 1993 "GETTYSBURG" Truly the best and most accurate Civil War movie ever made. The Acting is 10+
In case anyone thinks Dana Delaney was attractive, Exit To Eden was made when she was about the same age. Not a good movie, but if you like Dana Delaney, you won't be disappointed 😉
The shootout at the OK Corral is just about dead on how it happened down to how each man was shot and where they fell and died. It’s an incredible movie. The best.
Great reaction guys! I think your commentary was spot on, and as with ratings. Im not a big western fan, unless its done well and this one is fantastic! These characters are actually based on real people.
Yes this is based on a true story. I live close to Tombstone, Arizona and the Birdcage Theater is still there. Wyatt Earp and Doc are pretty famous people
War, Pestilence, Famine, and Death. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Great performances by everyone but Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for this performance.
At the end, when dark look down at his feet, and said, this is funny and chuckled. The story is that he actually did that. When he contracted tuberculosis, he could no longer practice as a dentist. He started gun fighting and putting himself in dangerous situations, his plan was to die with his boots on. That was what you called it when you would die in action, rather than lying in bed, he ended up laying in bed with his feet bare. That’s why he looked at his feet and chuckled right before he died.
Wyatt Earp was an American lawman, famous for his role in the shootout at the O.K. Corral in Tombstone, Arizona in the late 1800s. Born in Illinois, he grew up in Iowa and later made a living as a buffalo hunter and a gambler. He went to Tombstone in 1879, where he gained notoriety as a lawman. He married twice, and both of his wives were prostitutes. In the late 1800s, Earp and his brothers Virgil and Morgan, along with Doc Holliday, confronted the cowboy gang known as the Cowboys in a shootout that lasted 30 seconds and resulted in the deaths of three cowboys and wounds to Virgil and himself. Following the shootout, the Earps left Tombstone, and Wyatt was appointed as a deputy sheriff in northern Arizona. He moved to Alaska during the gold rush and then to California, where he worked as a dealer at various casinos. He died in Los Angeles in 1929.
So cool to see young people like y’all see this movie for the first time. I was your age when I saw this and thought this was the most badass western I ever saw. Definitely in my top three
Yes these are real people and it’s hard to think of someone that’s had more movies made. This story has been told in movies TONS of times in the last 100 years. Along with Jesse James and Billy the Kid. Real American and movie history.
In an 1896 article, Wyatt Earp said of his friend Doc Holliday: "I found him a loyal friend and good company. He was a dentist whom necessity had made a gambler; a gentleman whom disease had made a vagabond; a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit; a long, lean blonde fellow nearly dead with consumption and at the same time the most skillful gambler and nerviest, speediest, deadliest man with a six-gun I ever knew." In a newspaper interview, Holliday was once asked if his conscience ever troubled him. He is reported to have said, "I coughed that up with my lungs, years ago."
As soon as Doc watched Ringo’s gun twirl, Ringo’s days were numbered. Doc knew how fast he was, which hand was dominant, etc. That’s why Ringo was scared of Doc. He recognized that Doc had matched his every move.
I’m honestly so happy I came across you guys, the personality and humour you bring to these reactions is priceless. Keep up the amazing work and sooner than later you’ll be sitting next to the legends of YT
Oh yes!!!!! Love this movie! Fantastic performances. Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for this film. and YES it is based on a true story. Not the most accurate portrayal of a true story but the characters were actual historical figures.
Yes, "Tombstone" is a historical biography of Wyatt Earp - but with some creative liberties. Most of the major characters were real people as well as some of the events. Wyatt Earp's romantic life was condensed for movie drama but was also a part of his life. I've read that the cross fire gun fight at the creek was accurate as per eye witnesses. Wyatt did charge into the creek to finish off Curly Bill first, then a few others to turn the tide of the gunfight in his favor. One of my favorite scenes was at the gambling saloon where Johnny Ringo squared off with Doc Holiday with his gun tricks. Doc Holiday countered every move with his tin cup. What makes this scene important is both men were highly skilled pistoleers. Both men knew exactly what to look for in their opponent. Both men walked away from that encounter knowing that Doc Holiday was the better of the two.
Glad that you guys watched this great movie. Interesting fact. I live in Arizona. We are both an open and concealed carry state. There is still one place you still cannot carry a gun in Arizona. Tombstone
Guys. For heaven's sake, just look it up during the discussion. Not knowing for certain if the movie was based on real people is a HUGE bit of context that I feel like you should know.
I am a HUGE fan of this movie. I watch it at least 3xs a year. Kilmer was beyond brilliant, legendary. The whole cast is fantastic; there are tons of character actors. It's one of the very few Westerns that has cult status
Yes, based on a true story. Of course, they "Hollywooded" it up. The first gunfight between the Marshalls and cowboys...that was based on the historical "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"".
Yes, based on a true story. Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp were both real people. Doc Holiday was an actual doctor, a dentist I believe but gave it up for gambling. Holiday was known as the fastest gun ever. Wyatt Earp was a true law man. The gun fight that they had in Tombstone is know as "the gunfight at the OK corral" and is an actual historical event.
As others have said, very much true story. Tombstone, Arizona, is full of newspaper articles and museum stops to check out (yes, the river shootout scene is covered there, and Wyatt's bullet strewn jacket ison display). Doc is buried at Glenwood Springs, Colorado, where he died at the sanatorium. He contracted tuberculosis while caring for his mother, and he had previously been a dentist. Glad you guys liked the movie. It's one of my favorites, no matter what genre!!!
Tombstone, Arizona, USA. A real place, a real story (basically). Wyatt Earp was a notoriously ruthless cop from Dodge City, Kansas. Criminals across the country knew of Wyatt Earp and fear him. The saying "Get the hell out of Dodge!" came from criminals telling other criminals about Wyatt, and to stay away from Dodge City. True story.
Such a great movie and yes, it's based on truth. Depicted was the Gunfight at the OK Corral that took place in 1881. Great performances throughout, Val Kilmer's gets the most accolades. Michael Biehn's (The Terminator, The Abyss) performance as Johnny Ringo was just as good.
I love the fact that when drunk Ringo was calling them out, saying he wanted all of them dead, Doc challenged him with one arm already drawn behind his back, ready to kill him immediately. Curly Bill recognizes this and swarms to stop him.
Yes, this is based on a true story. Of course there were some cinematic liberties taken, but this ranks up there as far as great westerns. @25:29, Peacemaker is actually the name of the gun. It's a Colt Peacemaker 45 caliber. That particular gun was probably given to Wyatt by Colt with the special engraved plate. Another great western is The Outlaw Jose Wales. It's one of Clint Eastwoods earlier actor/director efforts.
Fun facts: Johnny Tyler (the guy Wyatt slaps at the saloon near the beginning) is Billy Bob Thornton. Johnny Ringo is Michael Biehn (Terminator, Aliens, The Mandalorian) Ike Clanton was the Colonel in the first Avatar movie. Tons of great lines in this movie.
Not every cowboy was a gangster or a thug. That was just the name this gang took for themselves. That's not to say that some of them didn't get drunk and shoot guns around. Every character in this film was a real person, from the three Earp brothers to Doc Halliday, to Ringo and all the other members of the gang, to Wyatt's love of his life. This is what Tombstone was really like.
Dudes! This is one of my all time favorites, top 5 for sure. Keep in mind, real men from history, true story. Even him walking into the middle of the creek and shooting Curly Bill. They actually taught this in history class back in the 80’s and before. That’s before they started making sure kids didn’t like the country. I can’t wait to see how much you guys like this one. I didn’t even like Val Kilmer before this movie. I didn’t think he was a good actor… 🤣 boy was I wrong! He deserved an Oscar for this role.
Josie was in Fly's Photography Studio during the gunfight at the OK Corral The gunfight actually took place in the alley between the corral and the studio. Maddie was sort of a common law wife to Wyatt. She was a prostitute who followed Wyatt to Tombstone The majority of film are historic events. The only question is if Doc was the one who killed Johnny Ringo. There is no evidence either way. Here it looks like Doc died immediately after the events, but in reality he died six years later in a sanitarium in Glenwood, Colorado. I did my college thesis on this story in 1979,
Fun fact related to Tombstone: My late grandmother was a genealogist. Her maiden name before she got married was Spicer. With her incredible skills of research and meticulous attention to historical detail, she was able to confirm that the Judge Spicer mentioned in this movie is an ancestor in my family. No joke, my ancestor Judge Spicer worked with Wyatt Earp himself. There were definite disagreements (as this film made evident with the decisions Judge Spicer had made) but there was confirmed respect between the two from the documents that my late grandmother had found. I always tune into this movie whenever it's airing on TV.
Best western I have seen in my 62 years - most entertaining - Val Kilmer's 'Doc Holiday' was sooo good - I think this movie had some of the most quotable quotes in a movie. - Based on true characters of the West - I cannot believe you have never heard of the shoot out at the OK Corral - I live on the other side of the world and have known of these characters and the famous town Tombstone and the shoot out - The relationships are in there because they were actual factual parts of the story - You really should re watch this film in your own time to pick up on all the great lines delivered.
Don't know if you guys noticed, but when Val is twirling his cup after Johnny Ringo twirls his guns, Val is mimicking exactly what Ringo did--each and every move, in order. After only seeing it once.
Doc says, “That’s funny,” as he’s dying after Wyatt leaves him. Doc always thought he’d die with his boots on (in a fight, since he lived on the edge, not caring/actually wanting someone to end his life quickly), but here he is, in a sanitarium, in a sickbed, dying of the disease that claimed so many in the past, tuberculosis, without his boots on.
Great reaction. Based mostly on true events and real people, though added too and some fictional addition. One of my favs in terms of modern day westerns. Unforgiven with Eastwood is awesome. Also the movie adaptation of Cormac McCarthy’s All the Pretty Horses, is very entertaining, though not truthfully a western.
I love Gene Hackman in "The Quick and The Dead", Leonardo DiCaprio too. I enjoy some "Young Guns" just for 100% Emilio Estevez at insane Billie the Kid, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, and Charlie Sheen (as the straight man!) in "Young Guns", "Bad Girls" for all the fun (again, it's not top tier movies...but it's a seriously fun movie PLUS, Drew Barrymore trick-riding, Madeleine Stowe is mesmerizing, Andie McDowell is so sweet, and Mary Stuart Masterson is tender. That's all I can give you without spoiling anything.
The conversation in Latin between Ringo and Holliday has implied meaning beyond it's literal translation, but in modern day English, it goes (loosely) as follows: Wyatt: He's drunk Doc: I'm more honest when I'm drunk. Ringo: You better watch your mouth. Doc: Tell it to someone who cares, I don't. Ringo: Maybe you need to be taught a lesson. Doc: Make a move. It's your funeral. That being said, "Open Range" is another really good western film you should check out! Starring Kevin Costner & Robert Duvall. Tho Tombstone has always been a fave of mine! It's based on a true story, and the movie was filmed at Old Tucson in Tucson, AZ, which is about 70 miles north of the actual town of Tombstone, which still exists to this day and has many of its original buildings still standing.
Great reaction, you are great company and your videos are so well edited, the essentials of the films are tyere to be enjoyed. Most certainly a true story, told many times which is why the names seemed familiar to you. This is the most accurate version, I think fewer people were shot than is shown and the time frame of the events was shorter. Wyatt arrived in town at the end of 1879, and the story told here ended in 1882. Doc Holiday actually didn't die until 1887. Earp had a very varied career after this, and was known as a controvercial boxing referee, he died in 1929 in Hollywood trying to sell his life story.
Doc Holiday (John Henry Holiday) got the name "Doc" because he was a dentist before moving west. He was originally from Georgia, college educated, and spoke three languages besides being an avid poker player who was quick on the draw. He and Wyatt would become great friends right up to his death. He moved out west to ease his Teburculosis in the arid and less humid environment. Many with TB, known as "lungers" would go west for the same reason. I've been to some of the places Holiday frequented. The old west has quite the interesting characters, but being from Georgia, Holiday is one of my favorites.
Yes, this was based on a true story, accurate to a surprising degree. Like at the end, when Wyatt went to Hollywood and made friends with those early cowboy actors. One such actor, not named here, was a young fellow named Marion Robert Morrison. He said years later he adopted his distinctive manner of speaking by imitating Wyatt. That young actor's name? John Wayne.
Its a true story that became a legend of the old west. The story is also one of the most filmed western stroies. There are multiple films about the gunfight at the OK Corral. This fik. Has a amazing cast. Kurt Russel, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliot, Bill Paxton, Michael Niehn, Powers Nooth, Thomas Haden church, , Stephen Lang, Michael Rocker, Billy Zane and Jason zoriestly
Love this movie, one of my favorites, seen it a lot and never gets old; I live about 45 minutes to the real Tombstone AZ and in Big Nose Kates restaurant they play his continuously. Yep there's a Bird Cage, Crystal Palace and O.K. Corral. Yes it's a tourist town now where they have live gun fights (blanks of course) and other things.
This was a true story. The time was condensed. There were two other Earp brothers. The olsest James was hurt in the Civil War and 44:29 not involved in the feud. The youngest was Warren who went on that ride to get revenge. The gunfight was October 1881. The book was fictional. The didn't wewr red sashes. The feud was political as well as a rivalry. The Earps had two brothers who fought for the north in the Civil War and were Republicans. The cowboys were more sympathetic to the South. The actress Wyatt married wrote a great book but the best book om this is titled And Die in the West by Paula Mi5chel Marks. Virgil was ambushed on Dec 28 1881 and Morgan was killed March of 1882. The scene where Wyatt confronts Curly Bill was real. The Scene with Doc and Ringo was fictioal but his body was found leaning against a tree.
Very much based on actual events, and fairly accurate. I grew up in western NC where my dad and uncle had a carpentry business, and they worked with Dallas Earp who was a direct descendant of Wyatt. I went to high school with his daughter who was a year ahead of me. Nicholas Porter Earp, the father of Wyatt, was born in Lincoln County just outside Charlotte, and there's still family in NC. I remember my dad telling me stories about the OK Corral that learned from Dallas.
Because westerns was considered a dead genre, and Kevin Coster’s ‘Wyatt Earp’ was coming out, it was not put forward for Oscar consideration. This was a western for the MTV generation. It was heavily glamorized but, it hit a lot of the historical aspects of the story. The costumes, the dialogue, the set design, the facial hair. It was perfection!
38:46 Tuberculosis will eventually kill him, but the body can often temporarily fight it off. You can honestly be on your back at death's door one day and feel well the next day. Doc was a Dentist which is where he contracted tuberculosis. With steady doctor hands and a death wish, he became a gun fighter, but too good to escape tuberculosis.
One of the Hollywood additions was the Cowboys being some big gang. It was really just the ranchers Ike and Billy Clanton and ranchers Tom and Frank McLaury along with some of their ranch hands. Wyatt was only married once, to Urilla Southerland. She died from Typhoid. Matte was an opium addicted prostitute he just took care of. Josephine was a common law wife. Wyatt was wanted in Arkansas for steeling a horse. He knew Masterson from his Marshall they had been Buffalo hunters and deputy's together. Masterson was never one of the bad guys. When Wyatt took his posse on the ride. Vendetta ride he only killed four men starting with Stillwell and ending with Curly Bill Brosius. Doc Holliday never faced off with Ringo. Although Ringo did challenge him once and some people believe Doc did eventually murder him.
This was a true story-ish. Ya'll slept in history class. Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, the Cowboy Gang, all true. The OK Corral. Laudanum was morphine mixed with a drink like hops. HIGHLY addictive. You were only supposed to take like a ⅛ tsp or sip for severe migraines. Also, opium dens were next to the outskirts of town because of fire hazards. Just a few facts. 😂
Yes, guys. This is a true story. Wyatt Earp, Doc Holiday, and some of the other characters are real historical characters. The gun fight was based on the actual 'Showdown/shootout at the ok corral. Great reaction guys.
At the river shootout, IRL, when Wyatt shot Curly Bill he pulled both triggers. Both barrels on the shotgun fired and almost cut Curly Bill in half. Afterwards it was noted that Wyatts jacket had multiple bullet holes in it but he himself was never hit.
Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for his performance as Doc Holliday. Legendary.
Got a signed print of Doc by him, he signed with "You were just too high strung" line. :)
One of the biggest Oscar snubs of all time.
Facts
Val deserved an Oscar, a Big Bird, and an Ernie & Bert.
Absolutely
"In California, Wyatt Earp also befriended a young actor named Marion Morrison who would later change his name to John Wayne and would become an American acting icon. Director John Ford hired John Wayne as a prop boy and extra, so he had the opportunity to meet Wyatt Earp. He made an impact on the young actor who later credited his walk, talk, and persona to his acquaintance with Wyatt Earp and on one occasion he reportedly said, “Earp was the man who had actually done the things in his life that I was trying to do in a movie. I imitated his walk; I imitated his talk”."
So, watching John Wayne is a bit like seeing Wyatt Earp.
That is such a cool story!
One bit of information that most fans of this movie already know but is easily missed by first time viewers is that Ringo was afraid of Doc since the cup twirl. Not only was Doc mocking him with the cup, but every move that Ringo done with the gun, Doc matched it move for move with the cup. Ringo having the trained eye of a gunslinger noticed that.
More so that Ringo became aware that he was in the presence of a real gunslinger. The twirling of guns was something that cattel drivers did out of boredom on while moving cattle across plains for weeks on end. It was basically a fidget spinner to them. Doc was a real gunslinger that didn't toy with his guns and only used them to kill. Even in his worse, physical condition he was in an entirely different league than Ringo.
@@jessecortez9449 Doc also had nothing to lose.. the Grim Reaper was very close at hand
The incident was pure fiction. Everyone was afraid of Doc. He was a cold-blooded killer.
What's more, he did it PERFECTLY after watching him once. No practice to mimic the routine, just right there on the spot. And all while keeping locked eye contact and a stoic expression, no sign of effort or difficulty.
@JustoOBrien-vh6tu What happened in real life is irrelevant. It's not even known for sure how Ringo really died. Officially, his death was ruled a suicide. I'm just talking about the movie.
Easily of the most incredible films of any genre. It’s so cinematic and beautifully shot, written, and acted.
When you get a little older and friends drift away and family starts dying, that scene after Wyatt “walks on water” and Doc is asked why he’s there because he should be in bed, and Doc says “Wyatt Earp is my friend.” And the other guy says “hell, I got lots of friends.” And Doc solemnly replies, “I don’t.” That shit hits home pretty hard.
Great stuff.
This and Unforgiven.
That's one of my favorite lines of any movie. "I don't"
Yes, because as you age, your friends either die off or drift away and you are left with only few after a while.
“I’m your huckleberry.” One of those classic one liners. 😊
Yes, Wyatt Earp & Doc Holliday are actual historical figures.
And, Tombstone/OK Corral are actual places and actual events. I have been to the town and walked in that Bird Cage theater and crystal palace saloon. Also, Fly's photography and the OK Corral where the gun fight took place.
It amazes me how little is actually taught in American schools these days, I've seen so many reactions to this film and how very few know anything about the subject.
To be honest I doubt much history was taught even 50 years ago. I was never taught about the OK Corral in history (To be honest it has very little historical significance in most of the country). I live very close to the "Battle of Athens" aka "The McMinn Co War" and was never taught about that in school. I learned about both via books, films (fiction and documentaries) and popular culture.
To those that don't know, Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson were both close friends of Teddy Roosevelt and used to vist him at the White House while he was president.
@texaspatriot4215 Because in terms of historical relevance, it doesn't have any sure. It's a very cool piece of American Western history. But when we're talking in terms of world wars the civil war The war of independence the war of 1812 It has very little historical relevance.
All of the characters are based off of real historical characters. Also, not all “cowboys” were in gangs or were gangsters. There is without a doubt a difference between cowboys and outlaws. The outlaw gang portrayed in the movie just happened to be cowboys who turned to evil to “survive” back in the day. Tombstone will forever til my last breath be my all time favorite movie!
Almost every major character in this movie was an actual person in real life.
The director took a few liberties, but basically this is a true story.
Wyatt Earp was a household name when I was young. Way before tombstone… the movie anyways. Everybody knew Wyatt Earp was a real sheriff. The shootout at the OK Coral was a common reference to any situation that devolves into chaos. But then…When I was born, Wyatt had died just 50 years prior.
If you like the shootout at the ok coral story, there’s plenty other real legends, other than just Billy the Kid. Davy Crockett, John Wesley Hardin, etc. . . One interesting one is Cynthia Ann Parker, and even better her son Quanah Parker.
@@jrag9435 I grew up in Quanah, Texas and graduated from Crowell high school in Crowell, TX where Cynthia Ann Parker was found.
Yeah in actuality Wyatt was an sob not a very good person at all.
@@jrag9435you forgot Jesse James and the cole-younger gang, and wild bill Hickock
@@jrag9435 To the best of my knowledge he was never a Sheriff or Deputy Sheriff. He was a Deputy Town Marshal in Dodge City KS under two different Town Marshals and a Policeman in Wichita (where the city council refused to renew his contract because he beat up a candidate for County Sheriff). He was a Deputy Town Marshal in Tombstone and then Deputy US Marshal for the Arizona Territory. I'm unaware of any law enforcement terms during his time in the Black Hills, but some may have info I don't.
Out of the 50 or so Hollywood productions, most accurate potrayal of of Earp and Holliday ever..The friendship between them started after a Ft. Sumner card game that wound up with Doc shooting the loser in self defense, but the locals wanted to hang him anyway. Earp stepped in and stopped it, which is why Doc was so loyal to him. Final note: When he died in 1929, Wyatt was a set advisor on early western movies and PT boxing writer for the LA times. He was an early practitioner and any thug who challenged him to "Put down his gun and fight" would be painfully obliged, then still taken to jail...That's how tough of a lawman he was.
No this was the most entertaining story of Wyatt Earp..lots of misinfo in this movie.
@@johnmarcey7176, actually, almost everything in this was was true. There was only a couple of things changed in this.
I wouldn't have expected someone of your generation to recognize him, but give some love for the actor who played John Hooker was none other than the legendary Charlton Heston.
Also the voice over by Robert Mitchum
They have seen him in other movies.
@@BulldogMack700rs and Robert Mitchum's son Christopher Mitchum was one of the cowhands at Heston's ranch.
Thank you for saying this!!!! I actually said out loud while watching that scene ….. “maybe y’all watched a western or two with a great grandpa or something and y’all will recognize him….” Alas lol no not even a clue ….. although I find I am growing increasingly more sad that as more and more people get introduced to this masterpiece, less and less know who Sam Elliot (Vergil Earp) is…..
Doc was indeed an educated man. He had been schooled as a dentist. Hence his nickname and knowledge of Latin.
My sister graduated from a Catholic high school in 1981, and she took Latin. (Also shorthand 😅) Wow times have changed.
and yes, this is based on a true story, yes, some of the details were "Hollywooded" up, but the crazyiest shit actually happened, like Wyatt not getting shot at the creek.
Kilmer will forever be remembered for this role of a lifetime.
Yes, this is all a true story. The Shootout at the OK Corral is a very famous gunfight. The Cowboys were just the name of the gang they fought here. Not every cowboy was a crazy gangster. There are so many incredible actors in this movie. Good guys, bad guys and everyone in between.
The cowboys were not the coldblooded killers depicted. The murder at the wedding was fictional.
History Buffs covers this movie highly accurately: ua-cam.com/video/QvvNRx0riOE/v-deo.htmlsi=-IV-0tP05ClW44ce
Oddly enough, the more fantastic parts of this film actually happened.
The river shoot-out between Wyatt and Curly Bill was the craziest part that totally sounds like it should be fake.
Just an FYI: The gambler that Wyatt slaps into submission is Billy Bob Thornton, who has gone onto MUCH bigger roles.
I got to see Michael Biehn (Ringo) at a comic-con like 20 years ago and he said this movie was his proudest and most fun to make.
I loved how crazy and psychotic he made Johnny Ringo. Those crazy eyes are haunting
Did you notice when Val said "I got two guns, one for each of ya" and he spun his guns, his two guns were spun in opposite directions
@@BadassVideosdude, uncool man
@@BadassVideos or he could've just fucking told him that he was tired and needed a nap...
WHILE he was holding his tin cup of liquor
i've never thought about the whole "4 horsemen" thing.. I think you're absolutely right, Virgil is War, Wyatt is Death, Doc is Pestilence, and Morgan is Famine. I'd argue that Morgan is famine because he was "hungry" to experience action, even killing someone. he also was hungry for spiritual truth.. talking about life after death and all that. that's a cool idea even if it wasn't intentional by the writers
I think since the movie itself references that verse of the bible on 2 seperate occasions, it seems intentional by the screenwriters. It's one of the "romanticized" parts of the film as opposed to the historically accurate parts. And I agree with your assessment of "Virgil is War, Wyatt is Death, Doc is Pestilence, and Morgan is Famine"
Val Kilmer was just superb in this movie. I remember seeing this at the theater when it came out. Y’all should look up the histories of Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp. Both interesting historical figures. Did y’all recognize Billy Bob Thornton as Johnny? The scene with Wyatt in the creek shooting at Curly Bill actually happened.
Yep totally true. I think Wyatt only took a bullet to the coat, not to his body. Maybe to his boot heel. Either way, he did do what they portrayed in the movie. Imagine that. Amazing.
Why Johnny.....I didn't know you were there.😅
TL;DR: watched this movie with some friends when it came out. It was so good, we watched it two more times in a row instead of meeting with some ladies for dinner after the first showing like we were supposed to
I was in college when this came out. Some guys and I were supposed to see the movie on a Friday night and then meet up with some ladies afterwards for dinner because they didn’t want to watch it. We ended up watching it three times in a row and blew off the ladies.
As this was the early 90’s, we didn’t really have a means to let them know we weren’t coming. When we all showed up on day morning to class, they were pissed off at us…rightly so, as we didn’t call them on Saturday to explain ourselves.
The professor knew something was off with the atmosphere in the room, so he asked what was going on. The ladies told him we never showed up to dinner on Friday night. We explained why.
He told everyone to get over it for the time being and he would watch the movie that night to see if we were justified in watching it three times in a row and not meeting up later.
Wednesday morning he came into class, sat down, and to the class we were absolutely correct to watch it three times in a row…as he watched it twice in a row himself.
The ladies were mad, so the professor told us guys that we owed the ladies a nice dinner and a movie of their choosing at the very least. If we didn’t take care of that by the following Monday morning, we would be docked 5 points each on our final.
Monday morning the ladies told him they decided to watch the movie with us after dinner to see what the rave was all about. When the professor asked if they understood, they all said yes…and while it was more violent than they would have normally watched, they could see why it was so appealing to men.
Of course, the male actors were also a huge part of the reason the ladies liked the movie. Anytime Kurt, Val, Sam Elliott, Bill Paxton, Michael Biehn, Jason Priestley, and/or Billy Zane were on screen, the ladies would giggle. They hated Steven Lang (Ike Clanton) though…with a passion.
One of those few films where every character was perfectly cast, every line perfectly polished and crafted. This movie never gets old after all these years.
The scene Doc twirls the cup is the moment Ringo becomes afraid of Doc, Doc is doing what Ringo did, drunk, and with a cup. You can see it in Ringos eyes in that moment he becomes afraid
You can still visit the original Tombstone in AZ. I was there 25 years ago, had a beer in the Crystal Palace, walked down the main dirt covered streets, but we missed the daily re-enactment of the shoot out at the OK Corral. It is about 90 minutes southeast of Tucson.
Wyatt's wife was as opium addict. Laudanum was basically an alcohol and opium based concoction that was sold as a 'over the counter' medicine back in the day. Many became addicted to it. It's really sad.
Don't confuse the occupation, cowboy, with the gang that called themselves the Cowboys.
So many UA-cam movie reactors get confused about this. Of course, I'm an old guy that grew up watching westerns on TV during the 1960s. 🙂 I remember watching reruns of "The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp" (originally aired on ABC from 1955 to 1961) with Hugh O'Brian in the title role.
Oscar winners get forgotten, but Legends never die. Val Kilmer gives one of the greatest performances of all time in this film.
This was based on a true story, but obviously there are things that changed or altered to make the movie better. Val Kilmer’s best role by far. I’ve been to both Dodge City and Tombstone. Worth the visits.
The rancher they held up with near the end was played by the great Charlton Heston and the movie was narrated by the also great, Robert Mitchum. Yes, this is based on legendary lawman, Wyatt Earp and the Gunfight at the OK Corral. Kevin Costner made a much longer movie about Wyatt Earp, titled, "Wyatt Earp" that is well worth a watch.
Johnny Ringo gave away his Moves when he showed off at the Bar! Doc Clocked them and knew he could get the drop on him in any Gunfight!
Watched this at a dollar theater with my parents in ‘93. The showing was nearly sold out and the audience loved it.
Highly romanticized but also highly accurate account of the story of Tombstone.
Not accurate. The murder at the wedding is fictional. The Earps were worse criminals than the cowboys.
The accuracy is no joke! The Judge Spicer mentioned in this film is an ancestor that my late grandmother, a genealogist, confirmed that I am related to!
Surprisingly accurate.
As much as you guys enjoyed this movie, think how much guys like me who grew up with the Westerns of the 1950s and 60s loved it. And yes, most of this was based on true accounts of these characters ans times. The shootout at the OK corral is legendary. Many movies made about it. Kurt Russell wanted to be as faithful as possible in telling the story. I could go on, but Westerns are a wonderful genre that many will provide great entertainment. (and yes, there are some bad ones out there, but more than enough great ones) A little trivia: Marshall Fred White was played by a very famous and well liked actor, Harry Carey Jr, (158 credits) whose father was also a great Western actor from the 20s and 30's. Also, Henry Hooker (the rancher that let the gang stay at near the end of the movie) was played by another Hollywood legend - Charlton Heston )129 credits including Moses in the Ten Commandments. If you seek recommendations on more Westerns - Silverado, Open Range, Unforgiven (modern era) and older classics - Shane, My Darlin' Clementine, and most any John Wayne western especially those directed by John Ford.
This movie is endlessly quotable and I was amazed to see you guys do it. Keep up the good work!
The Characters in the Film were real people! I've been to Tombstone half a dozen times and to Boot Hill Cemetery and The Birdcage Theatre! They do Reenactments of the Famous Gunfight at the O.K. Corral Daily! You can spend a whole Day!
Yes. The characters were real people. There really was a famous gunfight at the O K coral.
Wyatt Eurp was a lawman in Dodge City, Kansas. Doc Holiday had been a dentist, but after he was diagnosed with TB, he became a professional gambler, hooking up with a woman called, BIG NOSED KATE. HE was also a very good shot with a .32.
why is Big Nose Kate in ALL CAPS🤣 wtf?!
@@deadassdgaf100 because this woman needs to be remembered, for what she did for Doc Holiday, and she showed that women were not SADDLES FOR MEN!!!
@@karimhicks8376 yeah, i hear ya & I'm with you on that...BUT 💁🏻♀️ it reads weirdly. the all caps felt derogatory - not the other way around - as you just explained.
maybe just say that. you know most humans read 'all caps' & interpret it as if it were yelling - and not in a good way.
💁🏻♀️ just a suggestion ( just sayin).
This and "The Outlaw: Josie Wales are two of the best westerns ever for me, dialogue, action, acting, set design all perfect, IMHO...
I second that.
If you want to see another all-star cast movie that is right out of history, you've got to do 1993 "GETTYSBURG" Truly the best and most accurate Civil War movie ever made. The Acting is 10+
In case anyone thinks Dana Delaney was attractive, Exit To Eden was made when she was about the same age. Not a good movie, but if you like Dana Delaney, you won't be disappointed 😉
I know I wasn't. 😁
LOL very true
The shootout at the OK Corral is just about dead on how it happened down to how each man was shot and where they fell and died. It’s an incredible movie. The best.
Great reaction guys! I think your commentary was spot on, and as with ratings. Im not a big western fan, unless its done well and this one is fantastic! These characters are actually based on real people.
The medicine that Wyatt's wife was taking for "headaches" was laudlam.
Liquid opium. Addictive as heroin
She wasn’t his wife, just a female companion.
Yes this is based on a true story. I live close to Tombstone, Arizona and the Birdcage Theater is still there. Wyatt Earp and Doc are pretty famous people
War, Pestilence, Famine, and Death. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Great performances by everyone but Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for this performance.
Love love love this movie!!! Val Kilmer was an incredible Doc Holliday!!
At the end, when dark look down at his feet, and said, this is funny and chuckled. The story is that he actually did that. When he contracted tuberculosis, he could no longer practice as a dentist. He started gun fighting and putting himself in dangerous situations, his plan was to die with his boots on. That was what you called it when you would die in action, rather than lying in bed, he ended up laying in bed with his feet bare. That’s why he looked at his feet and chuckled right before he died.
If any movie you've watched deserves 10/10, its this one
Wyatt Earp was an American lawman, famous for his role in the shootout at the O.K. Corral in Tombstone, Arizona in the late 1800s. Born in Illinois, he grew up in Iowa and later made a living as a buffalo hunter and a gambler. He went to Tombstone in 1879, where he gained notoriety as a lawman. He married twice, and both of his wives were prostitutes. In the late 1800s, Earp and his brothers Virgil and Morgan, along with Doc Holliday, confronted the cowboy gang known as the Cowboys in a shootout that lasted 30 seconds and resulted in the deaths of three cowboys and wounds to Virgil and himself. Following the shootout, the Earps left Tombstone, and Wyatt was appointed as a deputy sheriff in northern Arizona. He moved to Alaska during the gold rush and then to California, where he worked as a dealer at various casinos. He died in Los Angeles in 1929.
So cool to see young people like y’all see this movie for the first time. I was your age when I saw this and thought this was the most badass western I ever saw. Definitely in my top three
Yes these are real people and it’s hard to think of someone that’s had more movies made. This story has been told in movies TONS of times in the last 100 years. Along with Jesse James and Billy the Kid. Real American and movie history.
I saw this in the theater makes me feel so old...my three friends and I get together every year to watch this its our favorite movie
In an 1896 article, Wyatt Earp said of his friend Doc Holliday: "I found him a loyal friend and good company. He was a dentist whom necessity had made a gambler; a gentleman whom disease had made a vagabond; a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit; a long, lean blonde fellow nearly dead with consumption and at the same time the most skillful gambler and nerviest, speediest, deadliest man with a six-gun I ever knew."
In a newspaper interview, Holliday was once asked if his conscience ever troubled him. He is reported to have said, "I coughed that up with my lungs, years ago."
As soon as Doc watched Ringo’s gun twirl, Ringo’s days were numbered. Doc knew how fast he was, which hand was dominant, etc. That’s why Ringo was scared of Doc. He recognized that Doc had matched his every move.
I’m honestly so happy I came across you guys, the personality and humour you bring to these reactions is priceless. Keep up the amazing work and sooner than later you’ll be sitting next to the legends of YT
Oh yes!!!!! Love this movie! Fantastic performances. Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for this film.
and YES it is based on a true story. Not the most accurate portrayal of a true story but the characters were actual historical figures.
24:07 one of the most badass moments in cinema
Yes, "Tombstone" is a historical biography of Wyatt Earp - but with some creative liberties. Most of the major characters were real people as well as some of the events. Wyatt Earp's romantic life was condensed for movie drama but was also a part of his life.
I've read that the cross fire gun fight at the creek was accurate as per eye witnesses. Wyatt did charge into the creek to finish off Curly Bill first, then a few others to turn the tide of the gunfight in his favor.
One of my favorite scenes was at the gambling saloon where Johnny Ringo squared off with Doc Holiday with his gun tricks. Doc Holiday countered every move with his tin cup. What makes this scene important is both men were highly skilled pistoleers. Both men knew exactly what to look for in their opponent. Both men walked away from that encounter knowing that Doc Holiday was the better of the two.
Glad that you guys watched this great movie.
Interesting fact. I live in Arizona. We are both an open and concealed carry state. There is still one place you still cannot carry a gun in Arizona.
Tombstone
This movie is so good. I love the scene where Doc shows up instead of Wyatt. Johnny Ringo is terrified when he sees it's not who he thought it was👍🏼
Agreed. Best use of the "shadowed face reveal" since Raiders of the Lost Ark, and hasn't been done as well since.
Guys. For heaven's sake, just look it up during the discussion. Not knowing for certain if the movie was based on real people is a HUGE bit of context that I feel like you should know.
Its a damn shame that there's a chance someone doesn't know these people really existed. Great reaction guys! One of my all time favorite movies.
One of the best character summaries and self-aware lines in cinema - "My hypocrisy goes only so far."
I am a HUGE fan of this movie. I watch it at least 3xs a year. Kilmer was beyond brilliant, legendary. The whole cast is fantastic; there are tons of character actors. It's one of the very few Westerns that has cult status
Fun fact! The man in the brown vest that gets shot at the OK Corral, the one Doc says, "You're a daisy if you do," is Wyatt Earrp III !!!
True story! Val should have won every award for this. My absolute favorite western ever.
Yes, based on a true story. Of course, they "Hollywooded" it up. The first gunfight between the Marshalls and cowboys...that was based on the historical "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"".
Doc: "I have two guns, one for each of ya" ... *Proceeds to spin his guns in opposite directions... 🤯 LEGEND!!
Yes, based on a true story. Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp were both real people. Doc Holiday was an actual doctor, a dentist I believe but gave it up for gambling. Holiday was known as the fastest gun ever. Wyatt Earp was a true law man. The gun fight that they had in Tombstone is know as "the gunfight at the OK corral" and is an actual historical event.
As others have said, very much true story.
Tombstone, Arizona, is full of newspaper articles and museum stops to check out (yes, the river shootout scene is covered there, and Wyatt's bullet strewn jacket ison display).
Doc is buried at Glenwood Springs, Colorado, where he died at the sanatorium. He contracted tuberculosis while caring for his mother, and he had previously been a dentist. Glad you guys liked the movie. It's one of my favorites, no matter what genre!!!
Tombstone, Arizona, USA. A real place, a real story (basically). Wyatt Earp was a notoriously ruthless cop from Dodge City, Kansas. Criminals across the country knew of Wyatt Earp and fear him. The saying "Get the hell out of Dodge!" came from criminals telling other criminals about Wyatt, and to stay away from Dodge City. True story.
Such a great movie and yes, it's based on truth. Depicted was the Gunfight at the OK Corral that took place in 1881. Great performances throughout, Val Kilmer's gets the most accolades. Michael Biehn's (The Terminator, The Abyss) performance as Johnny Ringo was just as good.
I love the fact that when drunk Ringo was calling them out, saying he wanted all of them dead, Doc challenged him with one arm already drawn behind his back, ready to kill him immediately. Curly Bill recognizes this and swarms to stop him.
Yes, this is based on a true story. Of course there were some cinematic liberties taken, but this ranks up there as far as great westerns. @25:29, Peacemaker is actually the name of the gun. It's a Colt Peacemaker 45 caliber. That particular gun was probably given to Wyatt by Colt with the special engraved plate. Another great western is The Outlaw Jose Wales. It's one of Clint Eastwoods earlier actor/director efforts.
Fun facts: Johnny Tyler (the guy Wyatt slaps at the saloon near the beginning) is Billy Bob Thornton.
Johnny Ringo is Michael Biehn (Terminator, Aliens, The Mandalorian)
Ike Clanton was the Colonel in the first Avatar movie.
Tons of great lines in this movie.
Not every cowboy was a gangster or a thug. That was just the name this gang took for themselves. That's not to say that some of them didn't get drunk and shoot guns around. Every character in this film was a real person, from the three Earp brothers to Doc Halliday, to Ringo and all the other members of the gang, to Wyatt's love of his life. This is what Tombstone was really like.
Dudes! This is one of my all time favorites, top 5 for sure. Keep in mind, real men from history, true story. Even him walking into the middle of the creek and shooting Curly Bill. They actually taught this in history class back in the 80’s and before. That’s before they started making sure kids didn’t like the country.
I can’t wait to see how much you guys like this one. I didn’t even like Val Kilmer before this movie. I didn’t think he was a good actor… 🤣 boy was I wrong! He deserved an Oscar for this role.
Josie was in Fly's Photography Studio during the gunfight at the OK Corral The gunfight actually took place in the alley between the corral and the studio. Maddie was sort of a common law wife to Wyatt. She was a prostitute who followed Wyatt to Tombstone The majority of film are historic events. The only question is if Doc was the one who killed Johnny Ringo. There is no evidence either way. Here it looks like Doc died immediately after the events, but in reality he died six years later in a sanitarium in Glenwood, Colorado. I did my college thesis on this story in 1979,
Fun fact related to Tombstone: My late grandmother was a genealogist. Her maiden name before she got married was Spicer. With her incredible skills of research and meticulous attention to historical detail, she was able to confirm that the Judge Spicer mentioned in this movie is an ancestor in my family. No joke, my ancestor Judge Spicer worked with Wyatt Earp himself. There were definite disagreements (as this film made evident with the decisions Judge Spicer had made) but there was confirmed respect between the two from the documents that my late grandmother had found. I always tune into this movie whenever it's airing on TV.
Best western I have seen in my 62 years - most entertaining - Val Kilmer's 'Doc Holiday' was sooo good - I think this movie had some of the most quotable quotes in a movie. - Based on true characters of the West - I cannot believe you have never heard of the shoot out at the OK Corral - I live on the other side of the world and have known of these characters and the famous town Tombstone and the shoot out - The relationships are in there because they were actual factual parts of the story - You really should re watch this film in your own time to pick up on all the great lines delivered.
Don't know if you guys noticed, but when Val is twirling his cup after Johnny Ringo twirls his guns, Val is mimicking exactly what Ringo did--each and every move, in order. After only seeing it once.
Doc says, “That’s funny,” as he’s dying after Wyatt leaves him. Doc always thought he’d die with his boots on (in a fight, since he lived on the edge, not caring/actually wanting someone to end his life quickly), but here he is, in a sanitarium, in a sickbed, dying of the disease that claimed so many in the past, tuberculosis, without his boots on.
Yes, these were real people.
Great reaction. Based mostly on true events and real people, though added too and some fictional addition. One of my favs in terms of modern day westerns. Unforgiven with Eastwood is awesome. Also the movie adaptation of Cormac McCarthy’s All the Pretty Horses, is very entertaining, though not truthfully a western.
I love Gene Hackman in "The Quick and The Dead", Leonardo DiCaprio too. I enjoy some "Young Guns" just for 100% Emilio Estevez at insane Billie the Kid, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, and Charlie Sheen (as the straight man!) in "Young Guns", "Bad Girls" for all the fun (again, it's not top tier movies...but it's a seriously fun movie PLUS, Drew Barrymore trick-riding, Madeleine Stowe is mesmerizing, Andie McDowell is so sweet, and Mary Stuart Masterson is tender. That's all I can give you without spoiling anything.
The conversation in Latin between Ringo and Holliday has implied meaning beyond it's literal translation, but in modern day English, it goes (loosely) as follows:
Wyatt: He's drunk
Doc: I'm more honest when I'm drunk.
Ringo: You better watch your mouth.
Doc: Tell it to someone who cares, I don't.
Ringo: Maybe you need to be taught a lesson.
Doc: Make a move. It's your funeral.
That being said, "Open Range" is another really good western film you should check out! Starring Kevin Costner & Robert Duvall.
Tho Tombstone has always been a fave of mine! It's based on a true story, and the movie was filmed at Old Tucson in Tucson, AZ, which is about 70 miles north of the actual town of Tombstone, which still exists to this day and has many of its original buildings still standing.
Great reaction, you are great company and your videos are so well edited, the essentials of the films are tyere to be enjoyed. Most certainly a true story, told many times which is why the names seemed familiar to you. This is the most accurate version, I think fewer people were shot than is shown and the time frame of the events was shorter. Wyatt arrived in town at the end of 1879, and the story told here ended in 1882. Doc Holiday actually didn't die until 1887. Earp had a very varied career after this, and was known as a controvercial boxing referee, he died in 1929 in Hollywood trying to sell his life story.
Doc Holiday (John Henry Holiday) got the name "Doc" because he was a dentist before moving west. He was originally from Georgia, college educated, and spoke three languages besides being an avid poker player who was quick on the draw. He and Wyatt would become great friends right up to his death. He moved out west to ease his Teburculosis in the arid and less humid environment. Many with TB, known as "lungers" would go west for the same reason. I've been to some of the places Holiday frequented. The old west has quite the interesting characters, but being from Georgia, Holiday is one of my favorites.
Wyatt Earp is buried 20 miles from my home in Colma California.
Yes, this was based on a true story, accurate to a surprising degree. Like at the end, when Wyatt went to Hollywood and made friends with those early cowboy actors. One such actor, not named here, was a young fellow named Marion Robert Morrison. He said years later he adopted his distinctive manner of speaking by imitating Wyatt. That young actor's name?
John Wayne.
The actual circumstances surrounding Ringo’s death are a mystery, but this seems SO right!
Its a true story that became a legend of the old west.
The story is also one of the most filmed western stroies. There are multiple films about the gunfight at the OK Corral.
This fik. Has a amazing cast. Kurt Russel, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliot, Bill Paxton, Michael Niehn, Powers Nooth, Thomas Haden church, , Stephen Lang, Michael Rocker, Billy Zane and Jason zoriestly
Favorite line in the movie🙂
“You tell em’ I’m coming and Hell’s Coming with Me ….. you hear, Hell’s Coming With Me!”
Love this movie, one of my favorites, seen it a lot and never gets old; I live about 45 minutes to the real Tombstone AZ and in Big Nose Kates restaurant they play his continuously. Yep there's a Bird Cage, Crystal Palace and O.K. Corral. Yes it's a tourist town now where they have live gun fights (blanks of course) and other things.
This was a true story. The time was condensed. There were two other Earp brothers. The olsest James was hurt in the Civil War and 44:29 not involved in the feud. The youngest was Warren who went on that ride to get revenge. The gunfight was October 1881. The book was fictional. The didn't wewr red sashes. The feud was political as well as a rivalry. The Earps had two brothers who fought for the north in the Civil War and were Republicans. The cowboys were more sympathetic to the South. The actress Wyatt married wrote a great book but the best book om this is titled And Die in the West by Paula Mi5chel Marks. Virgil was ambushed on Dec 28 1881 and Morgan was killed March of 1882. The scene where Wyatt confronts Curly Bill was real. The Scene with Doc and Ringo was fictioal but his body was found leaning against a tree.
Very much based on actual events, and fairly accurate. I grew up in western NC where my dad and uncle had a carpentry business, and they worked with Dallas Earp who was a direct descendant of Wyatt. I went to high school with his daughter who was a year ahead of me. Nicholas Porter Earp, the father of Wyatt, was born in Lincoln County just outside Charlotte, and there's still family in NC. I remember my dad telling me stories about the OK Corral that learned from Dallas.
Because westerns was considered a dead genre, and Kevin Coster’s ‘Wyatt Earp’ was coming out, it was not put forward for Oscar consideration. This was a western for the MTV generation. It was heavily glamorized but, it hit a lot of the historical aspects of the story. The costumes, the dialogue, the set design, the facial hair. It was perfection!
38:46 Tuberculosis will eventually kill him, but the body can often temporarily fight it off. You can honestly be on your back at death's door one day and feel well the next day. Doc was a Dentist which is where he contracted tuberculosis. With steady doctor hands and a death wish, he became a gun fighter, but too good to escape tuberculosis.
Doc contracted TB by caring for his mother who had it 🤷🏻♀️ so idk where you mis-learned that.
I have not even begun the reaction yet, but I cannot wait for the "NOOOOOO" part lmfao.
*.....NOOO....NOOOOO...NOOOO...NOOOOOOOOO^
One of the Hollywood additions was the Cowboys being some big gang. It was really just the ranchers Ike and Billy Clanton and ranchers Tom and Frank McLaury along with some of their ranch hands. Wyatt was only married once, to Urilla Southerland. She died from Typhoid. Matte was an opium addicted prostitute he just took care of. Josephine was a common law wife. Wyatt was wanted in Arkansas for steeling a horse. He knew Masterson from his Marshall they had been Buffalo hunters and deputy's together. Masterson was never one of the bad guys. When Wyatt took his posse on the ride. Vendetta ride he only killed four men starting with Stillwell and ending with Curly Bill Brosius. Doc Holliday never faced off with Ringo. Although Ringo did challenge him once and some people believe Doc did eventually murder him.
legally speaking, common law, IS married, so married twice
@@adamskeans2515 yeah okay but only one time with a wedding.
@@scottdarden3091that is nonconsequential, the state doesn't recognize a difference.
This was a true story-ish. Ya'll slept in history class. Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, the Cowboy Gang, all true. The OK Corral.
Laudanum was morphine mixed with a drink like hops. HIGHLY addictive. You were only supposed to take like a ⅛ tsp or sip for severe migraines. Also, opium dens were next to the outskirts of town because of fire hazards. Just a few facts. 😂
Yes, guys. This is a true story. Wyatt Earp, Doc Holiday, and some of the other characters are real historical characters. The gun fight was based on the actual 'Showdown/shootout at the ok corral. Great reaction guys.
At the river shootout, IRL, when Wyatt shot Curly Bill he pulled both triggers. Both barrels on the shotgun fired and almost cut Curly Bill in half. Afterwards it was noted that Wyatts jacket had multiple bullet holes in it but he himself was never hit.