Revisiting the Hostel Franchise | Are They REALLY That Disturbing?
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- I have a love hate relationship with the Hostel franchise so I thought I would sit down and watch all three to really decide once and for all if these movies are for me. What do you think about this franchise and Eli Roth as a director?
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You should do your own horror iceberg.
omg great idea haha
Oh I would love that!!
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@@PossessedbyHorror I would love to see that!
DEFINITELY!
HI Sarah. I'm an old lady of 67. I love horror movies and one of my faves is Hostel. Eli Roth and Rob Zombie are two of my favorite directors. Thank you for the video on Hostel. I discovered your channel by accident and it was a happy accident. You are my people. BTW, my kids are grown, but they grew up watching horror movies with their mom. And they are fine!! Love you.
I love hearing the perspective of horror-loving parents - thank you for sharing! I’ve grown quite tired of the ‘video games/horror movies cause children to be violent’ narrative 🥱 nothing happens in a vacuum!
Anyway, from one member of the horror loving community of UA-cam to another, glad to have you here 🥰
I love your comment I’m 52 and feel alone in my love of horror movies. And I always question if I’m too old for this lol.
@@desertpinevintage162never too old!!!!!! The horror space welcomes all, and that’s why we all love it so much!
Nice try fed....
Agree 1000% love Eli and rob zombie. Plus my kids are turning out just fine. And I also grew up watching and loving horror movies and now I'm a respiratory therapist and mom...certainly not a violent lunatic
I’d actually love to hear your opinion on women used in horror films!
Oh yes, I love this idea!
Yes please!
Agreed! I'd love to see a deep dive into that conversation.
Women are Empowered so they aren't used they choose that's the narrative that's shoved in SJW slop they pass off as Entertainment these days
Omg yesss
For me, gore doesn’t make something disturbing. In fact, the more gore seen on screen you just kind of get desensitised to the blood and guts (which you know isn't real). What makes Hostel so disturbing is the realism, and that it weirdly places you in a similar position to the Elite Hunters - paying money to see people get tortured. It makes you uncomfortable, and plots like the girl with the eye really stick with you long after the credits have rolled. That's what makes it disturbing, the way it affects you psychologically.
@@wallaceandgromit99 I would say personally it's still the psychological aspect that makes it disturbing to me rather than the visual gore
The hostel 2 upside down death scene is highly disturbing
A Slovak here - Hostel movie is not shot in Slovakia at all but in the Czech Republic for absolutely no reason :)
Another sign of indifference from the Americans: they still think Czechoslovakia is a thing apparantly. Just like they made Dutch people speak German.
I think the original and Part two is Perfect. The disturbing doesn't come from the gore alone, but the motivations for the wealthy club members. The sexual exploitation in the first is a parallel to how the members of the cult are treating human flesh. In that respect, the guys are getting what is coming to them. They are literally going to a tourist destination to use women for their flesh. Part 2 far exceeds the first one for me. The viewer cares about the girls, their plight doesn't seem warranted. Who didn't love Lorna. Part 3 was garbage.
yes to all of this!!
I prefer hostel 1 but just barely the second one is unreal , I don’t talk about part 3 though ,
I think you just accidentally proved the franchise’s point. In both the first and second films, a group of people go on a trip to Europe for their own pleasure. It’s the same plot, the genders are just swapped. I feel like people who claim the first film comments on the objectification of women wilfully ignore the part where the women luring these guys to their demise are 100% in on it.
These men just want p*ssy, which is kind of healthy. But every man should know if it's 'too good to be true' it probably is.
Hostel is really the only Eli Roth directed film/franchise that I somewhat enjoy, the others I have zero care for (Green Inferno maybe once every several years.) The first Hostel is one of the first horror films that has really stuck with me. I watched it when I was probably 10 or so and it still is one that I need to work the courage up to each time personally.
No love for Cabin Fever? I liked that one a lot but never cared for his other stuff.
@@inqui5itioncabin fever is fun but personally i’m not into B movies so i prefer the hostel movies lol
I already knew Sarah’s favorite was the 2nd one. Sameee and the visuals are top tier. However, I would’ve liked more of a background for the kids
The first movie has a scene where a guy says if you drug up the women you can do whatever you want to them. It's really gross tbh and has Eli Roth written all over it. Then there's his dropping the F slur all the time. It's his homophobic and sexist personality all over it. Have you ever seen this lil' monologue in Death Proof? That lil' rant is Roth all over. He's awful.
He does the same shit in Cabin Fever. All the male characters have his qualities. It's ick.
I just want to say that while I don't enjoy watching horror movies I could listen to you talk about them all day lol. Hope you have a good week!
One thing that I really found intriguing is how that was really the era of Americans being really patriotic and pro-USA and how that resulted in kinda dismissing other people and treating other countries as second rate, especially post soviet countries. The way the guys in the first movie treat the European people in the countries they are tourists as people who don't really deserve respect or humanity and they are just disgusting to all the people there. Especially the treatment of woman reminded me of mail-order bride attitude. They thought that they could kinda do anything to these women because they were from poorer countries.
Yes, it was very 'in your face' in the first movie. I also was somewhat annoyed when Dutch citizens spoke German, clearly a sign of indifference.
The first one terrified me due to the idea of being taken prisoner while your guard is down.
To me the concept became watered down when Elite Hunting was revealed to be a widespread organization.
The first one took a sledgehammer to my imagination. 🙀
What I like about the first Hostel movie is Jay Hernandez' acting. His torture and escape scenes were very effective because of his performance.
I am obsessed with 2000's horror movies, I love The Ring Two (2005) and Gothika (2003)
Gothika has always stuck with me, that ending was so creepy.
what is Gothika?
Forever obsessed with Gothika.
@@timelordvictoriousA movie starring halle berry. Its a thriller with horror elements.
The disturbing parts to me are the idea of being held against your will and tortured.
I think at the time these movies were released kidnappings and murders overseas were headline news.
Roth tapped into that fear perfectly.
But add to that how much Eli Roth enjoys showing gore as opposed to the gore itself and the Hostel series becomes disturbing.
Ohh, second one stands alone for me, I really like the girls and how they are cautious cause they know the place is not exactly safe, and it turns out it wasn’t indeed! Which is scary to think of! Lorna’s death was incredibly well performed and it stays with me after all these years
That fact that the main character of hostel 2 is the hitchhiker in the Texas chainsaw massacre (2003) always blows my mind. (She’s also Lucifer’s girlfriend in the Netflix show Lucifer 😂)
Tbh the only one I liked is Hostel 2. Better characters and writing. Beth is an underrated final girl
I agree, the only actual scene that has stuck with me from any of the movies is in the second one. The scene with the girl hanging over the bathtub and the woman starts cutting her with the giant harvest scythe. That scene was brutal.
Yessss also bonus points for having chloe decker from lucifer as the final girl lol. Hostel 2 was interesting and a bit underrated imo. The first is a mediocre snoozefest and part 3 was completely unwatchable. Could not even sit through the whole movie lol
Yeah, Beth is cool
@@merlinho0t that scene is hard to watch because it’s so brutal and because it’s sweet Martha Meeks from the Scream movies
2>>>>1 anyday
Lorna's death in Part 2 always broke my heart. She got it the worst of any character in any of the movies imo despite being the sweetest character. Always weird seeing her in Princess Diaries or Scream after that role lmao
@@wallaceandgromit99not mention that the girls she was on this trip with seemed like they didn't give a F what happened to her. The lead character never even asked what happened to her.
Agreed. I can't even watch that scene. Not only was her death the worst but the fact that the lady bathed in her blood is even more sickening.
The eye scene ruined my life for several years. I wish more than anything that I could unsee it. It made me want to cry and throw up at the same time whenever I thought about it. Luckily, time has faded the memory and I can only visualize the concept rather than the explicit gore. Blech 🤢
What happens? I have an eye phobia and like to know before seeing movies
Love the style of this video, like a video essay. And also love the haircut, it really suits you!
I love how you did the beginning! I loved the interview with eli roth. For me it wasn’t the gore it just felt like it could happen. Like people doing this to people. I think that is my whole disturbing thing for me. I haven’t seen Hostel 3. I do remember seeing some clips though. Im with you I like seeing likeable protagonists. Because then I feel something, if i don’t like I don’t root for there win. This does make me wanna re visit them. I loved this video and i would love to see you make more videos like this.
Loved the editing in this video, with the Eli Roth clips and all. I would love to see more of those rambling about an specific topic/franchise :)
The second one was SO satisfying due to its conceit at the end where the two men's attitudes change. and I like the ending of it as well. the kids playing soccer with the head is wonderful.
I agree, the 2nd one is the best! I really like the main character.
Hostel 2 all the way. Beth is King, Queen and the whole damn court. I love her. She is such a badass final girl. The negotiation scene lives happily rent free in my head. Hostel was good, it was decent. I remember my mom picked it one night for us to watch (we like horror, my dad does not) and it was fine. And part 3? I don't even understand how or why they made it! I find it disturbing for the reasons you listed, it feels as if it's something that could happen to anyone.
When she said let him bleed I was like yesss bitch 👏🏼
@@Mendejito yessssss
I am firmly on the camp that likable protagonists make a film much more watchable, and why I enjoy the second Hostel much more. It was difficult for me to find any redeemable qualities in the first movie and it became more of a drag to watch. However, I might be due for a rewatch- great video and ideas presented as always :)
"Thank god I didn't know about the extreme stuff.." Not me instantly remembering the video of you and Ryan reacting a Serbian Film😂❤
I’m loving this hair color 😍 you’re looking great mama!!!
that was really interesting, i never watched these coz i of the torture corn talk lol but ill check out the second one now :) also loving the new hair :)
I’m loving this short hair on you! Looks beautiful!
Great breakdown on these movies, keep up the good work!
So I was probably 10 when Hostel came out, I watched it with my dad, to this day we'll randomly quote Horror Movies to eachother, Hostel is one of them. I have to admit though I actually can't watch the eye scene up until her death, it actually horrified me, even today where I love Horror films, I still can't watch it.
Hostel 2 is definitely my Favourite of the trillogy. Beth's a great final girl (I also like the actress Lauren German who went on to star in the show "Lucifer") I've seen a couple hundred Horror films, Hotel 2 would be in my Top 50.
Hostel 3, for what it is, I'm fine with, it's definitely not a good film. But it was a unique take compared to the first two. If Hostel 3 was a stand alone film I probably wouldn't hate it, but as it's a "Hostel" film it's pretty bad.
I love your hair! I am NOT a Hostel fan, I barely even want to watch DeadMeat's Kill Counts that are coming out
i cant speak for anyone else , but i personally LOVE your rambling about movies ❤
Awesome Depeche Mode shirt!
Unrelated but I've been watching your videos for a few weeks, and as someone who only recently got into horror movies your videos make me feel welcome and accepted in the horror community. Thanks for that!
aw thank you I’m so glad!!
SARAH! Hope all is going super well since the baby 😃
Jus loving ur hair so much! Complements yu very well!❤❤
I saw the first one only once. I never re-watched it and I never will! 😂
Yay I love new content from you!
I can’t do torture in horror movies so I haven’t watched any hostel movies since I was a kid, i also can’t do Saw, the collector, or obviously Martyrs. I just watch videos about these types of movies to satiate my curiosity instead lol. I wanted to check out green room but it might be too much also. Are you going to watch Eli Ruth’s thanksgiving? I surprisingly loved it🦃
Would love to see you do this with the Saw franchise!!
The second one is my favourite too - I loved the ending!
I literally was checking your channel a few weeks ago for this, ty
hostel II is one of my favorite movies. the first one i can honestly take or leave, it lacks the depth that the second has. and i just plain dislike the 3rd one lmfao. but the second one! beth??? one of my fave final girls!
I had to look up the iceberg 😂 I haven't seen anything past the tip of the iceberg, heard of some from just below the water, and I think three from the next level. I know DeadMeat and FoundFlix said they wouldn't cover the ones I've heard of from level 4
I did as well😅 I never heard of the horror movie iceberg.😅
thanks for this video, it was insightful and i agree with what you said. i was disturbed by them the first time but ended up liking the first two on rewatches. my ranking is 2, 1, 3 also :) i do dislike the 3rd one but thought the twists were good tbh lol. i'd love to hear your thoughts on other films/franchises you could revisit!
The objectification of women in Hostel at least served a thematic purpose. The whole point is that what the rich people do in paying to do whatever they want to the trafficked people is not that different from, or at least a natural progression of, the American tourists paying to do whatever they want to the sex workers. I don't love gratuitous nudity/sex when it feels like there's no purpose, but in the case of Hostel there is at least the basic thematic message.
When you said Hostel was above the surface of the water my immediate thought was that "Surface of the Water" was like an indie horror movie
Honestly, Hostel 3 just kinda felt like a straight-to-DVD sequel to the first Hostel movie that they got, like... Asylum or Full Moon to make instead of a major studio. It feels very B-movie.
I love this franchise. First one is a classic.
Great video and loooooooove the shirt! Awesome. Do you like Sisters of Mercy?
Love this vid and would love to see more like it :)
Very intelligent review as always!
I saw you logging these on Letterboxd so I read the Wikipedia entries to prepare lol. I can't handle the full audiovisual experience of horror movies, I get an adrenaline rush just from hearing about them and combining your clips with my Wikipedia-generated mental images 😤
I really need to start paying attention to directors. The same guy who did "Hostel", also did "A House with a Clovk in its Walls"?
That's some general knowledge trivia right there.
Nikki's death in Hostel 3 scarred me for life 😭
This video inspired me to watch the franchise. I've watched the first two so far and loved them! Now I'm going into part 3 and I'm not expecting to love it like the first two 😅
Thanks for the video alway love your opinions and reviews, I really like how most of the time my own taste aligns with yours almost 90% of the time.
Question, and I know I'll fell dumb after I find out, but it's killing me. What's your t-shirt from? Those guys look very familiar but I can't quite place from where 😅
They’re Depeche Mode :)
@@PossessedbyHorror I KNEW I was gonna feel dumb.
i also recently rewatched hostel and i was honestly shocked by how bad i found it to be… but great video once again! also, what shirt are you wearing? it seems so familiar
1408, drag me to hell, the hills run red, rig around the rosie, hid and seek, mirrors, and some body help me.
I saw the first Hostel in theaters, where paramedics were waiting on case someone had a medical emergency like during early screenings. For the time it was definitely a shocker, most horror I had seen at the time were slashers.
I like the second movie better myself. For a lot of the reasons you said. The likable protagonists, seeing the cult upgrade security because of the escape and the savagery of the final girl.
I haven't seen the third because it looked terrible and glad to know my instincts were right.
I also enjoyed the creativity of like Viktor Krum as a meal and the Countess Bloodbath reference
Hostel 2 was my favorite of the bunch too but it's difficult to rewatch. The first Hostel had one dimensional characters that are mostly not likable, so while it's still horrifying, it's a lot a lot easier to keep at a distance. With Part 2 all of the characters are relatable, so what happens to them (especially Lorna), is disturbing.
How do movies like Hostel easily get an R rating when the First Scream was almost rated NC-17!?
I think as a teen male watching Hostel, I thought “Oh wow these guys are just being dudes and whoa they’re dying.” Only saw it the once til I took a film class where we watched it and broke down some themes, like how the torture rooms resemble the sex workers’ rooms when the guys are at the brothel, except the colors are browned out and grimey at the abandoned building. I don’t think it’s an intelligent film really, it is kind of just babies-first-exploitation, but I guess there’s more substance than I realized.
The second film, I really just found to be an enjoyable horror with good writing and solid characters. The Elizabeth Bathory scene with the bathing in blood I found to be actually disturbing and a great opening kill. Uhhhh I didn’t even know there was a Hostel III but I’ll take you word for it and not even bother lol.
Thanks for all your videos as always! I feel like my tastes have changed since becoming a parent :) I'd be interested to hear your thoughts sometime on the movie The Block Island Sound (currently on netflix).
Just spent 3 hours searching the dark corners of the internet for the dark shadows of the horror iceberg. Now I have become happy.
When I watched the first one. The ending is someone who played a pivotal role. Is also on the train and gets their just desserts.
Hostel 2 was the first I seen in theaters and I haven’t seen it since 😫
im almost twice your age(54) and have been watching horror since i was about 6..sneaking down to watch The Exorcist lol....i have been watching u for years now and will probably never agree about 2000s movies being the best but my kids grew up watching those...my oldest is about your age(34) but i love your videos and how u give your opinions and reviews and tier charts....i follow your other page also! I totally agree with your ranking of these movies....i liked Hostel for what it was when it first came out and love your description...OF COURSE its fun watching horrible things happeningn to unlikable ppl...but i loved the second one the best and the backstory of the second one and i didnt even think about them both being in Desperate Housewives until u mentioned it and i had to laugh!!! And the third movie should never have been made! Albeit i did find the back story more disturbing in the second one but i grew up in the era of good movies like Last House on the Left, I spit on Your Grave and Cannibal Holocaust and Faces of Death AND one of my favorite horror movies ever is Martyrs!...and the Hostel movies....no, i do not find them disturbing
Also your hair looks great ✂️
I really enjoyed the first one back then for what it is, I love the second one, the third one I forgot about, but I love this video. I think I've been looking for an excuse to give them a re-watch and this was it.
Still waiting for The Quarry review queen
Love your DM t-shirt.
First and two is really good, i could never forget the japanese tourist ive just turned 36, that scene was forever etched in my mind.
I REALLY like the 1st “Hostel” man. It’s just a great lil self contained, very simple, “fish outta water”, horror movie. Also, the actor who was the MC in the 1st Hostel. I really liked him a lot. Also, his Character is definitely solidified as 1 of the many of BADASS Horror movie “Final Guys”.
(Update)
I just found “Jay Hernandez” who is the MC in Hostel. He’s gonna be in Eli’s new ThankGiving🥳 The one with “Addison Rae” for some fucking reason.
I need to do a rewatch of Hostel III so I may give my opinion of the series ( I've only seen it once). That being said...❤️❤️❤️ the Depeche Mode t-shirt! I used to have same one; I bought it when I saw them live for the first time, in '93.
I've never seen the 3rd one, but I do remember liking the first two. I might check out the third one, but since Eli Roth wasn't directing I skipped it. He was one of the writers though according to IMDb.
it only credits him for the characters tho so he didn’t actually write any of the movie or have any part in it!
Thank you very much!
I have all 3 I like the first 2 and bearly like the 3rd. Yes I find them disturbing but that's what some horror movies focus on. To me what really gets to me is what can happen to tourists in foreign countries. I too have heard those tales especially after the fall of the Soviet Union in those republics or in Brazil and Dominican Republic. Anyway good reviews and cool video Sarah!👉😃👈
I saw Hostel, Hostel 2, and Green Inferno at the theater!!! I look forward to seeing Thanksgiving when it comes out!!!!
love ur hair color x
I LOVE YOUR SHIRT
Thank you for mentioning the end of the horror iceberg being NOT horror at all and just gross lol no one ever mentions that.
Honestly, this should've been just one standalone movie. The sequels are so repetitive and feel really disjointed from the first one. I liked the mystique of the cult in the first movie.
I had no clue it was a franchise. I gotta check them out
i actually watched the first hostel recently and as someone who lives in europe i have to tell you, i laughed my ass off when they were showing the landscapes of slovakia with ominous music in the background because this is something i literally see everyday in my country too and it felt weird to even think of it as so scary
Love the Depeche Mode shirt!
I really like the first 2, they are a comfort watch for me, as strange as that might sound.
Thanks
thank you!
Great video! I love the 1st two movies, and watch them whenever they're showing on PlutoTV. Paxton and Oli are a-holes/so cringy in the 1st (I think Josh isn't for the most part) but they're likeable enough to me where I don't want them to die and still root for them. I at least want the main protagonists to be likeable in my movies. I personally plan on never watching the 3rd movie (watched a summary video about it- I think Spookyrice- and that's all I need); it visually doesn't even look like a Hostel movie and it's in America. Also, my jaw dropped on that critic rating for it, that's why you can't trust them😂.
I actually thought the hostel movies as terrifying cause I remembered a gory part from the 1st movie I once watched as a child, but now you talking about it and seeing the shorts clips in your video (plus your commentary) makes me realize they're not that terrifying at all, I just watched it as a child for some reason but as an adult is totally different
You've got a good point - I really like the 2nd one, but I am sure I've seen the 1st one so many more times. I think some of it is also, I end up liking the final guy from the first and hate how he's just killed off at the beginning of 2 - I would have loved to see him used differently. And yea, 3 isn't good lol
I think what you’re not acknowledging is the time period these movies came out in. These movies were part of the post 9/11 period of horror movies. There was an increase of the fear of foreign people and places and an irrational feeling that Americans were under threat at all times. Maybe you’re too young to remember but these films fueled a sentiment of “America First, America Only”. There are plenty of essays out there about post 9/11 horror you should read.
I had a clip in this video where I mentioned that but I didn’t get my point across coherently so I got rid of it but yes this had a big impact!
The first trailer for Eli Roth's Thanksgiving just dropped!!!
I completely agree with what you say, however, there definitely are some John Kramers walking around. I think it was a while back where a man woke up with a bomb collar, forced to "play a game" and he got blown up because he failed his missions which included robbing a bank.
I really enjoy the first 2. I tend to rewatch the second one way more often. Havent seen the third and have no interest.
Here i was thinking i was a seasoned vet of horror after watching the human centipede and a Serbian film only for them to be the tip of the iceberg
omg cabin fever was the first horror i ever watched and it messed me around for years, i couldn’t watch anything from 12-18. i wish it was on the iceberg so i didn’t feel so bad about being terrified