What's My Line? - Marge & Gower Champion; Martin Gabel [panel]; Tom Poston [panel] (Feb 8, 1959)
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2014
- MYSTERY GUEST: Marge & Gower Champion [husband and wife musical theater/film stars]
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Tom Poston, Dorothy Kilgallen, Martin Gabel - Розваги
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I feel so bad when Tom's jokes go for the most part unnoticed! I LOVED when he called the audience out on it at 15:55! Made me grin!
Tom Poston is wonderful and charming, as much a class-act as Steve Allen, and makes a fine panelist. Bravo. I can see why Mr. Allen keeps him around.
Marge Champion turned 101 on 9/2/20.
Two of my favorite guest panelists in one show.
@23:40
Martin: It shows you that marriage makes two people as one.
Arlene: Oh Martin!
Martin: Doesn't it, Arlene!
Those two are just too cute!
Must have been a bit galling for “Miss” Kilgallen, given her very dysfunctional marriage relationship.
Gah! one of those moments where we wish Martin and Arlene were next to each other for that exchange! "Oh, Martin! How tender!" lol so cute!
I listened for it, and I heard it. Thank you! It was such a good show.
I found the camera's sustained close-up gaze upon Dorothy from 13:05 to 13:40 to be noteworthy. It departs from the show's typical visual rhythms, in that there is no cutting back to John or the contestant when they speak during that span of time.
Jan Zamojski Good observation. Looks like the technical director nodded off into a nap for 30 seconds or so. . .
What's My Line? I like it. It allows us to observe, interrupted, the subtle play of expression across her face while she sifts mentally through the matter at hand, zeroes in on a possibility, awaits clarification, reacts with mild amusement to the odd humorous murmurings of the conference, and does that thing of leaning or tilting ever so slightly back in a kind of deference, so as to also tip the head forward, eyes widening, with a look that both entreats and enjoins. Not high drama, but its duration conveys something of personality that back-and-forth editing misses.
Jan Zamojski They experimented, very briefly, with doing a split-screen of the panelist and the guest at the same time just before Dorothy died, but they only used it in a couple of shows. Shame-- I thought it worked very well, for all the reasons you just said.
Dear Jan Zamojski, I enjoyed what you wrote about Dorothy's face and mannerisms. This will enhance my enjoyment of Dorothy and WML from now on. Thank you for deepening my attention and appreciation. Best wishes to you from San Diego, CA.
Sinatra requested that so America could laugh at the "no chin wonder".
Nice to see a show that was broadcasted the day I was born!
I absolutely love that Arlene is the only one that listens to the audience and knows that she is correct.Love her!
"It happens down home!" Clever panel.
This diving horse act was a favorite of WML --I can think of four times various divers with horses in Atlantic City appeared.
soulierinvestments was there a movie about diving horses?
Dorothy look lovely
Completely agree. One of her better outfits.
Norma Dean the diver was wonderfully charming and full of life.
Martin Gabel (5'6") co-starred as Senator Stephen A. Douglas (5'4") in "The Rivalry" opposite both Richard Boone (as Abraham Lincoln) and Nancy Kelly (as Adele Douglas) opened on Broadway on February 2, 1959. The play, which, of course, revolved around the Lincoln-Douglas presidential debates, closed a little over two months later on April 18. 1959.
Gabel was allegedly over six feet tall.
Actually, Lincoln was challenging Douglas, the incumbent senator from Illinois, for his Senate seat.
@@peternagy-im4be: I don't know who alleged that, but he was 5'6".
@@accomplice55 6'2" in his socks
@@peternagy-im4be That would make Arlene close to 7'
Dorothy's dress is stunningly beautiful! ❤️❤️
Miss Dean is very charismatic.
Second time Marge and Gower Champion were mystery guests. The first was 5/15/55.
Marge and Gower Champion were certainly a cute couple. They were married from 1949 to 1973. Gower Champion died in 1980 and Marge Champion is still living at age 95. His death at age 61 came several hours before the opening night curtain of the Broadway musical "42nd Street", which he directed and choreographed. On opening night, the show went on and no one in the cast or crew had been told of Champion's death. The show was a huge success with many curtain calls and, amid all the applause and cherring, producer David Merrick came on stage and made the announcement that Gower Champion had died earlier that day, provoking gasps and screams from onstage and from the audience. Champion had been ill for some time with a rare form of blood cancer.
I was a;ll ready to dispute you on Marge Gower still being alive but you are still right that she's alive. She was born on September 2, 1919 so she's still alive at 97.
And Marge celebrated her 100th birthday this month! Reportedly "beaming and full of life", says Broadway World dot com.
Blake Champion died in 1987 at age 25 in an automobile accident.
I thought their son was a victim of suicide?
She died in 2020 at the age of 101.
When Poston runs off stage at 11:25, a camera comes into shot as the one covering the panel follows him. That was regarded as a no- no by 1959; the casual exposure of equipment, boom mikes, technicians etc in the 'Chicago school' of live TV pioneered by Dave Garroway a decade earlier had come to be regarded as unprofessional.
That is so weird to see Tom Poston thirty years younger than when I knew him and not playing his "Newhart" character.
The Champions were such a charming couple!
RIP Marge Champion. 1919-2020
I met her briefly and it changed my life. Thanks for your insights and boundless energy. Both were an inspiration. RIP
That's a long life!
Premier of the final set that was used until the end of the show. It must have been scheduled for the 10th anniversary show, but was delayed for a week .
A much needed, more lively and interesting pattern now than the drab, monochromatic backdrop previously used.
This episode sports a brand new, improved, designed background upon the panelists' entrance. Eventually, the panelists will make their entrances from their stage left side as opposed to their current stage right side.
Nice show!
A great panel game with witty erudite panel members who all possessed charm and dignity. John Daly as chairman/host was simply superb, a man never lost for words and a man who was well mannered and highly intelligent. Sad note? Five days prior to this show being screened, Buddy Holly was killed in a terrible plane crash. It would have been a nice touch if John Daly had mentioned the passing of Buddy and the two other recording stars also killed in the crash.
*_Private Secretary For the Duchess of Windsor_*
*_Dives 40 Into Tank on Horseback_* (Bettie Page hairstyle).
Miss Hivet had some serious rocks on her neck.
Norma Dean Beautiful 💖💯...
Ms. Dean is cute.
Yes, MISS Dean was delightful.
She has a beautiful smile and sweet personality
@@LazyIRanch I love it when someone replies to an old post. I would need to re-watch the episode to see what it's about as I have forgotten, lol.
They were on this show in2 separate capacities
Marge Champion turns 99 in September this year.
14:17 why did Dorothy get a no to the question, "Do you dive? when the description of her line literally started with, "Dives"?
Making horse jump in tank water is animal cruelty .
Cant believe they had this on this show.
they had one or two other ones, also from Florida.
Gower and Marge divorced in 1973. Both remarried. Marge was married briefly once before Gower. Gower died of cancer in 1980 at age 61.
Tom Poston certainly gets around doesn't he? I just saw him on "To Tell the Truth" last night" (at which he just became a permanent panel member)
I quite like Tom Poston as the 'guest' panellist. He looks ever so familiar to me but having checked his IMDB page there isn't really anything on there that I would have seen him in. There must be another actor that I have seen in films etc who looks like Tom Poston, but for the life of me I can't think who and it's really bugging me! (He does look a little bit like the Australian actor Bryan Brown, but I don't think that's who I'm thinking of...)
You never saw "Newhart"?
@@accomplice55 No - I don't think its ever been on TV in the UK
He was on other game shows too, A regular on “to tell the truth”, and sometimes on “match Game” and other shows. He was also in the 2004 movie Christmas with the Kranks
The secretary of the Duchess of Windsor? Wallis Simpson? I wonder if she could confirm or deny some of the stories Scotty Bowers told about her and the Duke?
BTW Norma Dean looks like Bettie Page! Or Cloris Leachman made up to look like Bettie.
Scotty Bowers was full of it. A nit in the scalp of the talented.
What a PRETTY, BEAUTIFUL *SMILE* ,!
☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️😊☺️😊☺️☺️😊😍😊☺️🎨👙🎨
Her face must hurt
@@dinahbrown902
While Subjective and Interpretative of course; only if its laced with cynicism.. 😐
That first contestant was so cute.
Marge is still living at 100 years old.
She died October 21, 2020. She was 101 years old.
I must look up dear Gower and Marge Champion the next time I'm in Manhattan.
Like Bogart in Casablanca, you would find any conversation with Gower to be a bit one-sided, although Marge is still living, approaching 100
Even when Bennett isn't there, the admiration from John is obvious. Both seemed like such nice men.
wiguy3 -- They were definitely decent, nice people, Bennett and John. Of course, their poking fun at each other was just that -- a humorous shtick they kept up all the years they were on WML. When Bennett would introduce John at the beginning of the show, often in a teasing, fun-poking way, but just often enough he'd introduce John Daly in a very complimentary way and Daly would feign shock that Bennett had said something so nice. It's once of the many things I like about watching these episodes.
They were actually very close friends, who had fun teasing each other. They said on the air a couple times that they'd gotten letters; John would get letters saying Bennett was awful to treat him that way, and Bennett would get them saying John was being terrible to him. They'd then assure the public that in reality they were quite close, and only kidding one another.
Bennett and John liked one another and knew one another to a degree. However, it was a male friendship thing wherein someone you go to a ballgame with twice a year is called a friend. Martin & Arlene Gabel with their son Peter were next door neighbors, regular Sunday dinner companions often and good friends with Bennett & Phyllis Cerf and their sons Christopher and Jonathan. In fact, Peter Gabel and Jonathan Cerf were in boarding school and college together and ran a literary publication together at Harvard. Their adjacent homes were in Mount Kisco, NY.
The Cerfs definitely spent more time with Martin & Arlene and were closer to them in day to day life. That being said, though, Bennett and John certainly admired each other and I think there were times that they spent together as well, and Bennett's own words were that he and John and Arlene all become "close personal friends". Bennett attended the wedding of John's son and John gave the eulogy at Bennett's funeral. I don't recall the episode now (of course :)), but John once mentioned the letters they'd get about their "fighting" and said they were good friends, not only because they saw each other every Sunday but because they knew each other from other places as well. It was neat to me to see Phyllis Cerf, during one of her mystery guest turns, when John went into one of his long winded explanations, reach over and give him a little side hug. Who knows how deep any Hollywood friendship or relationship really goes, though, particularly on a show where civility and manners were so important. I remember when Peter & Jonathan were the mystery guests - if I recall they stumped the panel. :)
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What on earth is attached to Arlene's upper right eyelid area??
Timestamp? I don't see it.
Makeup...in an effort to make her eyes larger.
The first time I knew of Tom Poston was when he was on Mork & Mindy. Any show I would see him he always played an antagonist. Not necessarily a bad guy, but always sided against the main character we're supposed to root for. I knew from Mork & Mindy it was supposed to be a big deal he was on the show, but I didn't know who he was since I was a kid. I could never like him because he was always annoying in whatever show he was in. It's weird to me seeing him in his younger days being funny and likeable with everyone glad he is there.
Me too. First time I've seen him young and likeable!
Anyone know what “The Fourth/Forth Estate” means? I’m not even sure how it spells!
The Fourth Estate refers to the press and news media. The other 3 are the clergy, nobility and the common people.
iammrmat ... Thanks 👍🏻🥰‼️
During the feudal era everyone was a member of a so-called estate, like a social class. The first estate was the aristocracy, the second was the bourgeoisie, like professionals, the third were the peasants. That took care of almost everyone. The press, such as it was in those days, was the fourth estate.
@@iammrmat Oops, you are right. The clergy were, before the Protestant Reformation, the first estate.
Thanks Shirley 👍🏻🥰‼️
Didn’t anybody find Arlene’s France comment insulting to the French lady? If Martin was next to her he might have whispered something in her ear about that.
Not remotely insulting whatsoever. Only to thin skinned folk.
What happen to Bennett Cerf?
He was on holidays....😯
Blowing the boys on Fire Island.
Miss Dean looks uncannily like Joanne Woodward in this WML
Marge died at 101 in 2020
I wonder if the horse liked it. Kind of borders on abuse.
Oh well. Never mind.
You mean that witch Wallace Simpson? BARF!
Did men whistle at virtually anyone in a skirt back then or did WML employ professional whistlers, just to keep things interesting? That said, it’s obvious that good looks were always a plus in getting chosen as a guest. Those who expressed interest in appearing were asked to describe their lines and submit a photograph.
At the time these were made it was considered a compliment.
@@harriettedaisy2233 yes, just look at the appreciative response and huge grin on the ladies faces in response.
Simple, natural, normal compliment.
Today the celebs would be screaming how could you do that to a poor horse.
Never mind. Just ignore them.
My goodness - Dorothy takes this game so seriously. She got annoyed with that first contestant.
Gower and Who? Geez. Never heard of them. They sure left their mark on show business!
Poor horse.
I felt the same way about 25 years ago at a local county fair. They had a mule that dove into a pool of water, along with various little dogs. The Human Society was there, & we were all determined that this show was going to be shut down because of cruelty. Well, the animals LOVED it. No sooner did they jump off the high-dive into the water than they were scampering back up the ladder to do it all again. We were all stunned.
You can lead a horse to water ... AND they will willingly dive into it.
In Stirrup High Walt Coburn tells of his teenage experiences on his dad's ranch & on a cattle drive in 1903. His mother insisted on proper schooling so he did some catching up summers.
A ranch-hand had just about drowned & was on an island in a river where they were driving cows across. Coburn was not on his usual "kid's horse" but on a high strung animal as he rode to the top of a cliff overlooking the river so as to get a better view. W/o thinking he gave a quick flip of the quirt & instead of turning the horse jumped off the cliff!
He went into ~10 feet of water & said he thought he'd never come up. After he did he swam the horse to the island as though that had been his intention. Lucky for a certain cowboy as he had learned more in HS about lifesaving than the cowhands knew.
Another kid with the drivers later told him "When I saw you jump that horse into the river I knew you were a real horseman!"
The screen read: "Dives 40 into tank on horseback."
It would have been clearer to say, "Jumps 40 ft into tank while on horseback."
Firehouses have poles rather than steps because horses will climb stairs and then be impossible to coax down. Yet, somehow a horse can be coaxed to jump from 40 ft.
horses slide down the pole in the firehouse?
How do the firemen get to the second floor?
"Horse diver" would have been easier.
Sometimes John Daly talks too much.
SOMETIMES??
It might be contended that within the parameters of the programme, he was occasionally apt to indulge in a modest surfeit of verbosity when moderating his friends on the panel.
@@esmeephillips5888 Not wishing to mislead you…….
I think this is Norma Dean that dives 40 feet into tank of water on horseback. Tap the link to watch the video ua-cam.com/video/8XwxhANneKU/v-deo.html
Tom Posten aint too bright
Animal/horse cruelty
They spent too much time on Miss Dean, and to be honest, she seemed rather dull.
@z Generally people on these civilized comments pages for WM do not insult other commenters.
WML is a wonderful show, skip the judgement, just enjoy!
She was beautiful, radiant and friendly.
A bIt thick.
That horse lady’s not too sharp. 🤪
Give her a break please. She was no doubt nervous and unsure of how to answer questions correctly at times. Coming across well before several million viewers might make you or anyone somewhat tongue tied.
She was beautiful, radiant and friendly.
And there he goes flipping those STUPID cards over again (I still can't believe the producers didn't tell him about that! he ruins the entire show by doing that. It's bad enough he does it when they have 0, but he does it alot even at 30 and 40 points)! I'd like to know what the purpose of a gameshow is if even the losers win
because it is not about the money.
if they were giving out large cash prizes then people would be competitive and they would have to stick to the rules.
around this time other shows got in trouble for rigging the wins. giving contestants the answers to make the show more interesting.
people cared because of the money involved.
For the umpteenth time, the purpose of a game show in entertainment. Why on earth would you begrudge John giving someone a little extra money? It's not like he's taking it away.
I wanna' see a game show in which they take away money from a contestant for wrong answers.