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STAR WARS™: The Old Republic™ - Timeline - Peace for the Republic?
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2010
- The centuries immediately preceding the Great War were thought to be one of the most peaceful eras in Republic history. As he dives deeper into the galaxys history, Master Gnost-Dural discovers new evidence that suggests the dark influence of the Sith Empire was seeping into the Republic even then. Gnost-Durals latest report isolates one historical incident which suggests there was a Sith Lord pulling strings within the ranks of the Jedi decades before the war even began.
BTC 103 More than a century before the Sacking of Coruscant, two Jedi scholars embarked on a journey which became one of most inexplicable mysteries of its time. Young Jedi Knight Eison Gynt joined his Master in a mission to investigate the Ancient Sith Temple of Yavin 4. On Yavin, the pair was attacked by the native Massassi and driven into the Tomb of Naga Sadow where a powerful force of darkness emerged. Gynts Master returned to Coruscant wounded and half-insane, remorseful that young Eison Gynt had been killed in the chaos. Years later, however, Gynt returned from Yavin on his own and attacked his former Master. Gynt was killed and all assumed that he had been tainted by the darkness on Yavin 4 and returned to Coruscant for revenge. Nonetheless, the truth, as Master Gnost-Dural has discovered, may have been far more sinister.
Watch the latest Timeline holorecord, Peace for the Republic?, narrated by actor Lance Henriksen.
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I really like the idea of a Sith infiltrating The Jedi Order. It shows how deceptive they truly were and their deception was only discovered decades after he died.
It actually does. The Sith Infiltrators are also known as the Emperor's children, which plays a big role in the Knight and Consular storyline
I LOVE mystery in the Star Wars universe ... this is some of the very best of it!
great story, these videos are valuable
The Jedi Order/Courscant Jedi Temple gets infiltrated far too often, all things considered...
@koekjebom
it's not Revan. Bioware has already stated that the Sith Emperor is over 1,400 years old from the Great Hyperspace War
Sith infiltrators sounds cool
In a way you could say palpatine was a Sith infiltrator
The funny thing is, it seems that when writing the original trilogy, Lucas meant for the Sith to be a group of Jedi who pledged themselves to Palpatine when the Jedi Purge began. It was only when Lucas started thinking about how Palpatine learned to use The Force without the Jedi knowing that he made the Sith an ancient order.
This video gives me the creeps. The music and thinking about just what horror gynt went through and Ovair’s eyes.
My theory is that the Sith Lords know of Vitiate's plan to kill the entire galaxy.
If they knew about that they would have stopped them the moment they found out
Or at least try to
That is the exactly Vitiate's plan and you have to stop it during Jedi Knight storyline and Rise of the Emperor
@@antonybadia That was *supposed* to be only the beginning to that plan. Too bad they retconned both that and Vitiate's entire character with the craptastic shitshow that was KOTFE.
Holy shit this was a good story.
I recall seing naga sadow's skelleton in korriban, so how is his tomb in yavin 4?
Dante Leão I'd like to know that too. I figured that at some point the Sith Empire took his bones from Yavin IV and brought them to Korriban.
Dante Leão It was set there as a decoy to deter grave-robbers.
That and the tombs were created before the Sith’s actual deaths (just like ancient Egyptian Pharaohs).
The Tomb Of Naga Sadow is on Yavin. Its where his body resided until he was killed by his apprentice Freedon Nadd. His ceremonial tomb is on Korriban and serves as a testing ground for the final exam to the Sith Academy. The Korriban tomb was built before his death most likely and before he was forced to flee the planet after the Great Hyperspace War.
Disney could literally print money with the Star Wars IP if they chose to make feature productions of stories like this, and other gems from the EU. Instead, they'd rather kill the golden goose by scavenging a few ideas and characters form the EU. I guarantee you, they have NO ideas of how to continue making anything approaching quality films in the future with Star Wars, they're just going to go the Marvel route of milking it while it's popular.
Such a shame. A lot of film genre fads only last a decade or two before people get sick of them. Take the heyday of the Western, or how Zombies are considered now to be done to death (hah). Superhero comic-book adaptions are definitely on the way there, and you can see it with the slowly waning enthusiasm. But, due almost exclusively to the EU and its fans (and by fans, I mean PAYING CUSTOMERS), Star Wars stayed popular for decades. That becomes a marketing double-whammy considering the Sci-Fi genre not having gone out of style for the last 100 years of western entertainment.
But they thumbed their noses at the people and stories that kept the franchise popular... now all they have are generalized fans of the blockbuster movie. The same fans who killed westerns once their interest ran out. And zombies. The irony of Profitability is the counter-intuitive fact that a franchise is most profitable if it stays true to the Soul of its fanbase. Disney Star Wars has no soul, and so we'll never get stories like this adapted into films. We'll just get more schlock.
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity At least he seems to be the only one under Disney who still gives a shit about the EU and is in a position of executive power where he can actually back elements of the EU. I mean we all saw what happens when people like Kathleen Kennedy who don't care about the EU are given the executive power to make a Star Wars movie. That's how the sequels emerged. A marvelization of Star Wars without any regard for previous movies. The Mandalorian under Filoni pays a ton of homage to the EU. I don't understand your beef with him, because I've seen a lot of your posts now and all you do is talk shit about Dave. I mean the dude is basically a beacon of old school Star Wars light in a fog of corporate decisions.
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity There is nothing wrong with Greivous. His behavior in Filoni's Clone Wars is consistent with Revenge of the Sith. If you're talking about how he was changed from the Tartakovsky interpretation...well he needed to be nerfed. Tartakovsky made every character overpowered. Even in the comics, Greivous isn't as badass as Tartakovsky made him out to be. Have you ever read the Greivous comic series? Greivous kills some nameless Jedi knight, but is outsmarted by a band of Jedi padawans. Greivous's biggest issue is his tendency to overestimate his own ability, but he always flees before it is too late. Filoni didn't change any of that at all. Quinlan Vos wasn't ruined, but his potential was never really realized as much as he was in the Republic series comics. But that's not Filoni's fault. I'm actually glad that Filoni doesn't have a hard on for Quinlan, because I feel like if he brought him back, Disney would demand that his story be changed. Ventress was changed substantially, I'll give you that, but to be fair Ventress never really had a conclusive story. Her last appearance is in Obsession, during the Battle of Boz Pity where she is gravely injured and captured by hijacks the ship she is captured on and then just drifts off into the galaxy. It's kind of disappointing for such an important character. It's good that she had a conclusion to her story in Dark Disciple. Lastly, I'm not sure what your issue with Dooku is. He doesn't appear changed at all. In fact, he rarely appears, which is good because he is supposed to be off negotiating planets to the CIS, not off fighting battles or whatever. His appearance in Filoni's Clone Wars is consistent with how he behaves in the comics. You're the only person I've seen to criticize Dooku in the Clone Wars. Is that enough "research"? Don't get it confused bud. I've been a Star Wars fan since before the prequels even existed. I was really young, but I remember some of the criticism from the prequel movies. I remember old old school Star Wars, before the Jedi were akin to super heroes, even before the whole concept of the Sith and all the mysticism. I bring this up to let you know that I'm not some new fan. Hell, I've got 14GB worth of Star Wars comics on my computer right now. The entire Republic series, Knights of the Old Republic, Tales of the Jedi, X-Wing series, Heir to the Empire, Dark Empire, Crimson Empire, Legacy, etc.
And I used to be like you too. Full of hatred at Disney for wiping away the EU and giving us the shitty sequel trilogy in return. I still hate Disney and still hate the sequels with a burning passion. But people like Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau embrace the spirit of old school Star Wars. I see that being a long-time fan. Do they get everything right? Of course not. Have they changed a few things here and there in the production of new material. Yep. But you need to understand that Star Wars is never going to go back to the way it once was. Hell, Star Wars already changed the moment George Lucas made the prequels. A lot of people hated that, but now the prequels are somewhat beloved in comparison to the sequels. Am I saying you should like the sequels? Absolutely not. I hate the sequels and they are objectively garbage. But I think you should give the people who still care about old school Star Wars a chance, because people like Dave and Jon are all we have at this point. Without them, you'd be stuck with folks like Kathleen Kennedy running the entire ship. What's worse? Kathleen running the whole thing and giving us more garbage like the sequel movies or Dave/Jon changing a few things, but largely bringing back the EU and the interest in the original EU from new fans? I'd definitely prefer the latter. Like I said, I've been a Star Wars fan since before the prequels even existed and the existence of the prequels changed Star Wars significantly. Star Wars will always be changing and you have to accept that, but evolve with the currents. That's basically what Dave and Jon are doing.
They dont ignore it, they leave it on the sidelines and barely mention it, but all the things that happened in KOTORs 1 and 2 are realised, albeit not as much as we may have expected
EVEN HAVOC SQUAD CAN LEARN FROM A VETERAN!
LOL Kit Fisto in 1:15
lol right
If Jedi aren't supposed to marry and breed then how come there's a 4th generation Jedi?
Wardner213 there's force-sensitive beings throughout the entire galaxy, the jedi just have to find them and train them
+Wardner213 Because Force Sensitives will always be a thing as long as species exist that have sensitivity to the Force and the Force exists. And because Jedi do break their vows sometimes.
I think he is talking about how the dude's father and grandfather were also siths inside the order and also went looking for sith tombs
Jedi could marry but it was very very rare for them to do so. Most senior Jedi's have a much easier access to get married, while most others can't.
I don't think that was a rule back in the day, Jedi could Marry and bang as many chicks as they want it.
Awesome just awesome
Revan turned because he deemed it neccesary, the JEdi Civil War was Revan preperation for the Emperors Attack, he made his own Empire, so he could fight the Emperor when he finally arrived
@e1gr to be exact.KOTOR 4000 yrs before empire and and TOR 3700 before empire
watching these videos has made me bust out my old kotor games. I have never played an MMO before but I think I want this game.
don;t those golden eyes just scare the shit outta u
It is kinda weird that these videos completely skip over the Dark Wars and the events of KotOR II in general. Oh well.
Especially when Surik and the companions she trained (alongside a small handful of Jedi survivors like Bastila) were instrumental of reconstructing the Jedi Order after the First Jedi Purge - basically being the KOTOR era version of Luke's first students - which made them one of the biggest reasons why there was still a Jedi Order to protect the Republic when the Sith Empire returned. Surely that should have been the next video with the outro saying something like "tracking the timeframe of these Sith Infiltrators within the Jedi Order suggest that the Emperor waited several decades after the time of Revan and Malak before sending more agents into the Republic." which would lead into a discussion of the Dark Wars with Gnost Dural theorising that Vitiate waited for the Jedi Order to stabilise and for those who rebuilt it after the end of KOTOR 2 to die, either in their duties or from old age (I can't remember all of the fates Kreia describes before her death but most of Surik's companions were Human and I think even Iridonians like Bao Dur had natural lifespans that didn't exceed a century) before sending in Sith like Ovair's family to infiltrate the Order. THEN lead into the Jedi Civil War with something like "Although the sheer power in the force Nihilus and Sion drew upon made them almost unstoppable, it must be noted how weakened the Jedi had become in the years before the Dark Wars and the origin of the Sith forces they commanded, with both factors being the focus of my next report."
@@Jedi_Spartan While the weakened Jedi are important, what was more important however was the weakening of the Republic as a whole. The Republic was huge, compared to Vitiate's smaller Sith Empire that sat in a region of the galaxy that was Deep Space back then. At that point in time, there was no Corporate Sector authority or anything like that, so it essentially was empty space with only a few rivaling, isolated civilizations there to rival the Sith. On the other hand, you have the Republic which not only controls the well developed and highly profitable Core, but many worlds along the Perlemian and Hydian Trade Route, essentially boxing in the Sith Empire. What the Empire really needed is an extremely weakened Republic that was torn apart by war and too busy still rebuilding itself after the carnage of the Jedi Civil War, and which decided to not focus on the military aspects as much. So simply put, Revan and Malak really did their job well considering they literally bombed highly populated and well developed worlds like Telos and Taris into non-existence AND also stole (or took) and ultimately wrecked most the Republic's military by turning it into his own Sith army by and fighting the loyalists (which he later supported and helped win). Kreia and Nihilus were simply not as important at this point as it was Revan and Malak that were the ones who really weakened the Republic's ability to repel danger from the Sith Empire. By the time Sith invaded, they already had an even smaller army and fleet than before and many of those planets that were destroyed were still left destroyed, like Taris.
amazing story telling 5/5
One of the Jedi council members has the same facial features as obi-wan did during the 2008 clone wars tv show
@koekjebom I think it is, or something along the lines of a star forge. Theres a lot of possibilities they could have made more than one star forge or just build in the same style.
Ha it took me a long time find his Eison Gynt name. I wished they made a TV series about him
Very interesting! I'm looking forward to being able to play! ^_^
If ancient sith could infiltrate the republic and entire galaxy In old republic, I think they infiltrate the galaxy decades before clone wars. Always imagine the sith empire returning during clone wars or just few short years after formation of the galatic empire. You guys did good job with the game, haven't played it since don't got good laptop or computer play on it. But love the way the sith empire looks compared to the galactic empire.
@koekjebom I never said it was Naga Shadow I said the Sith Emperor is "from" the great hyperspace wars not "The Sith Emperor" from the Great Hyperspace wars. Bioware has already said he's from the Great hyperspace wars. So therefore it cant' be revan
Epic :D
Can't wait for the next entry and the release xD
So much cooler than Shadow of Revan.
@Muphlon Looks like it. Perhaps more mentions of it's origins.
Woah! Very interesting!
@e1gr Hmm... I agree though Darth Sidious was known to be one of the most powerful sith lords and was well known for his use of clones... If you read the books...
@koekjebom
idk all we know for right now is that he is one of the sith lords who escaped from destruction during the hyperspace wars
@MTMewMew I think Lance Henriksen is the Narrator (Shepherd from Modern Warfare 2)
Cool story bro.
How would Naga Sadow possess someone when Freedon Nadd had destroyed it years before? Isn't the spirit of Exar Kun more likely, given that it actually still existed at the time?
Nadd destroyed Naga Sadows body, but not his ghost.
And it is likely that Ovair was to seal all of the old sith spirits. Not just Sadow.
Plus Kun was probably still weak, given how he had been defeated not that long ago.
@@DropkickNation It would be odd for Nadd not to have destroyed his spirit, given that the tool he used to kill him is implied to be the very same relic that Exar Kun used to destroy Nadd's own spirit. And the fact that he didn't appear to students at the Jedi Praxeum like Exar Kun did. That seems to have been the assumption until SWTOR brought him back for this story.
@@SonofSethoitae It's the only logical explanation in this case, since otherwise the timeline entry would make no sense.
@@DropkickNation Bit of a lazy retcon is all I'm saying. Would have made more sense if they had used Exar Kun and not Naga Sadow.
@@SonofSethoitae Maybe. Then again maybe Durals history recordings were just plain false.
After all, he had no proof that it was the spirit of Naga Sadow that came after Ovair.
@juresaiyan
satele is already confirmed be of the revan bloodline, so im thinking malak.
That was awesome. I can't wait to raid ancient tombs of Sith Lords.
@AshenTemper Looks like it came out spring of this year, right? Maybe next spring. I'm guessing next summer.
me wants to play! O_O
@TheLostMCKlebitz yes i think so to.
i hope so it will be cool ''the star forge II''
best ration on youtube
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude probably watched the Knights with Guns video on Brown Lightsabers.
i haz want this game naow!
@blameist The graphics have vastly improved since this timeline came out. Let me ask you have you played KOTOR?
@smiladon3 he makes them, its the old republics youtube channel
@RazielDArc This "century" is misinterpreted, what they mean by "a century later" is the entire period of the Sith defeat at the hands of the jedi, followed by the Mandalorian wars, followed by the timeframe of Revan & Malak, The Sith Triumvirate plus an additional 295ish years "before" this Emperor returns to the known galaxy.
(I believe)
@Gthang213 i know you never said it was naga schadow.
but i said it cant be naga shadow he is death but wo will it then be?
is that the star forge at 4:43 ?
Innae tha the voice o Lance Hendriksen?
@Gthang213 it cant be Naga Shadow ? he is death but wo will it than be i hope thay tell it soon
I wish the game had something that ties into the content of this video!
@AshenTemper Is this game still in close beta? Are you guys still accepting applications?
1:29 is the Ebon Hawk?
I thought Sadow's spirit was destroyed by Nadd?
I guess they retconned it to his physical body.
please announce a release date..
When this game comes out my last trace of life will be dead.
and?
@TheBoomdoom there is going to be!
That Emperor's got guts and brains to infiltrate the Republic and Jedi!
@koekjebom Yes it is, maybe Revan is from the Gynts family...
Sounds very great ! Can't wait for it !
I wonder if this ties into the upcoming Rise of the Emperor patch.
First :D
is that the star forge?
@AshenTemper
OMG 2011 T_T soo loong! XD
@RazielDArc Nm, disregard my previous comment, 4:42 makes sense now xD
Funny how vitiate never went after exar kun’s spirit. Wonder why? 🤷🏾♂️
I am quite sure that Exar Kun was no threat to Vitiate by the time of the Great Galactic War, it took millennia for him to pose a threat to Luke and his Jedi Order.
He may even have awakened during the fighting between the Empire, Republic, the Emperor, the Revanites and Revan on Yavin IV, but there was little he could do.
The animosity between the (Ancient) Sith Lords and Sith Emperor Darth Vitiate should really have been explored more, it would have been interesting to see a potential great Sith power struggle, or even an all-out civil war as the Ancient Dark Lords seek potential candidates to thwart Vitiate, which is basically what Exar Kun was.
It's also quite interesting to see Vitiate as the one to eliminate his precursors, while later Sith would only be lectured by those Ancient Sith.
Like when Marka Ragnos expressed his disappointment and dislike with Darth Plagueis, or when other Sith like Darth Bane and Darth Nihilus were openly mocking Darth Krayt.
Peace is a lie
BISHOP!!!!
@Saseav Malak's real name is Alek Squinquargesimus.
Maybe the emperor is Revan (why haven't we saw his face yet ?)
@Floods01
i know his name i just don't like saying squinquargesimus.... seriously.
also revan is too young to be the emperor, the emperor is from the great hyperspace war era.
when is the beta out alreadyyyy??
@AshenTemper lol
20th December 2011
@aliim8 Better to make a good thing for long, then release shit quickly.
Wasn't Exar Kun supposed to be entombed on Yavin IV instead of Naga Sadow ?
Exar Kun’s spirt is trapped in the temple not his body
I sense there's truth in your word.Thank you for corrected me young one... the whole "Revan turned Sith to Emperor" is just a propaganda for Bioware "TOR".They completely ignore everything that happen in Kotor 2.
Thumbs up if you gonna buy this fucking game.
@juresaiyan wtf! that is the dumb theories i ever heard! Revan&Malak were not the Sith Emperor.They born jedi! They turn to the dark side cus the true Sithspit Emperor seduce Revan and Malak to the dark side..
Revan and Malak ain't Ovair descendent.
@mmcgill0415 force-sensitive humans can live up to 300 yrs so it maybe can be revan
@Wilxarkun Castillo thats a comment from 10y ago mate.
When he talked about the emperor and his return to the galaxy a century later...that's not PALPATINE is it?!?! :O
TheEthanFbaby No.
said no subscriber ever.
It's clear that either Malak or Revan is the ancestor. Although Revan is more likable.
No
such a disappointment