@@Puretrash747 And at this point, that’s the best thing they do with her besides removing her from the game outright, which they obviously can’t do from the liability end as a non-zero amount of players spent actual money buying that killer.
@@pvdg3515 Not to um actually but arinad (I think is their name) uses the addon which reveals survivors when he’s in yellow gas, which already does the job of new zanshin but better imo. For builds without this addon, new zanshin will be an amazing perk for clown. Either way, clown has lost a great playstyle unless this perk gets reverted.
@@jaida3377 zanshin wasn’t even remotely necessary for that tactic. I don’t care how many pages that guy writes about it; there’s no scenario where seeing the pallet you already know about will help you down someone.
@@PistolSlinginMothMan The point of zanshin on clown is to throw yellow bottles proactively, BEFORE the survivors drops the pallet. If you think about it, for a player that knows how to outplay literally every tile knowing your surroundings ahead of time is incredibly strong. Why randomly discredit people you haven’t bothered learning anything about?
We're LITERALLY going in a full circle with twins. First they nerfed her, tried reworking, went back to before the nerfs, now nerfing her cooldowns again lol
@@steaksoymilk3195 honestly I think they couldn't figure out what to do with the twins so they just reverted changes and going to nerf them all over again just so it seems like they're doing something
@@Mazerwolf outplaying a dangerous power should have a good reward for the survivor, I'm about it. And SM had too much going on at once, she was clown with better information, better chase, better map pressure, and some built in slowdown.
@@NewSirenSong And still a mediocre killer who only thrives because noobs can't be bothered look up a 5 min video at 1.5 speed to see how the killer works.
@ToveriJuri killers who can't be bothered to play something more interesting because they're too lazy to learn a killer that doesn't get free rewards for pressing m2 are just as problematic, they just removed one that was effecting more people
I understand why they do this. Problem is people rarely steer away from meta and those who do have their go to perks so most of these won't see any increased usage.
@@Gabriel-ql2lu naw shes unappealing has shit lore and the gameplay is awful. i hate having 3 status effects while dull merchant is chasing me with haste and undetectable
They took Distortion around back, forced it on it's knees and shot it in the head with a Luger. Not that I care much about it but I find it hilarious that it got an Iron Will treatment
It'll still be good, you just have to scurry out of your rat hole sometimes now. Like when the killer picks up a survivor, get that free chase and escape while they're hooking. Or run sabo. As for me, I mainly used it to test what perks they had and call it out. So I'll be switching to object of obsession for that now.
@@TheKingCole for real. All they had to do was make it so you got tokens back by being in chase. That's literally all they had to do. But nope, no stacks. guess killers just get to aura read for free now, which begs the question when are survivors getting superior aura read perks that let you see undetectable killers.
@@izzywn5802 You don't get Distortion back after the chase. Distortion will re-activate during a chase, blocking aura reveals that happen during the chase, but once it ends, you are no longer protected by Distortion
@@danielcope7492 yeah that's a pipe dream I'm afraid brother 😑 the best we can do is slap on object and atleast see their ass right back when they pop off all 4 of their aura perks and their 2 aura add ons 💀
Too much aura reading. Especially with Distortion destroyed. A better way wouldve been to keep the token system but only have them recharge during chase. With the massive number of aura reading perks and addons in the game now every survivor might as well run OoO.
i mean, past a certain threshold the number of options for aura reading doesn't make them stronger, killers still have the same number of perk and addon slots. the only issue with the high number of aura perks is that survivors aren't informed their aura is visible, so you can't tell which the killer brought like you can with Exposed perks and such. it would be nice if they added a status effect indicator. that said, the reason the devs add so many aura options is probably because they're safe. just seeing where distant survivors are doesn't win the game for you - doesn't slow gen progress or win chases. it's hard to make an information perk that ruins the game for anyone, while it's easy to make a slowdown or chase perk that does. the new mid-chase short-range aura perks added in this patch are an exception to that, acting more like chase perks than normal information perks... but those are the kind that new distortion is most useful against, which is cool. i personally really like the idea of distortion as a perk used to hide mid-chase, like dance with me, quick and quiet, lucky break, etc. those sorts of plays are cooler and more engaging than the type of stealth that avoids ever starting chases. plus, escaping a chase actively wastes the killer's time, so encouraging that sort of play won't cause bad survivors to throw games by diverting attention to their teammates. i hope they eventually buff this new distortion while keeping its basic design - i think if it reactivated continuously while in a chase and worked on killer instinct rather than just auras, it'd be good and healthy. but giving it multiple charges to use outside of a chase just gives it back the ability to throw solo queue games, so it's best to avoid that.
@@UltraSyre Spoken like a true survivor only main. Status effect for aura reading would nerf them immensely and would outright just make perks like Lethal Pursuers useless for everyone but Cenobite.
its not "destroyed". yes it may be better to nerf it a bit less, but thats a healthy change, because 80% of people who used it were rats hiding the whole time and letting their mates down with a disadvantage. im playing my games 50/50 and never had problems for not running this beginner perk. its just simply annoying for your own team, and the killer to face. learn how to loop and you wont need distortion. im curious.. would you rather face a killer loaded with full meta slowdown, than a full aura build? less time on a gen, means more fun for me, but distortion users probably see this differently, since they are only hiding.
@@drypotato6990 Yeah, I have no idea where people are getting this idea of a killer that's being loaded with some imaginary fully loaded "meta" aura reading build. Sure, the game has 20+ aura reading perks, but you have only 4 slots and Slowdown is still the most crucial way to win games. Unless you are playing something like Nurse or Blight a, full on aura reading build is outright stupid. Right now, most killers will use one meta-aura reading perk that fits their killer or playstyle the best and something else for the other slots. two aura reading perks is very expensive unless it's a very specific niche build or specific killer setup. Being jacked up on Aura reading is just not that useful. In my experience distortion is more often a dud of a perk that barely does anything most matches because aura reading while useful is just not necessary for a lot of killers.
@@zarutodaskira It's comments like these that make me just shut up when I'm about to bitch about some first world problem lol. Keeps me humble and thankful.
The Counter Patch Genetic limits Full counters Overcome Leverage Full counters We'll make it Predator Full counters New Distortion Zanshin Tactics Full counters Parental Guidance
At 29 mins Scott mentions clowns cigar box NOPE!!!! It’s been bugged for over 3 months and BHVR hasn’t said a single solitary word about it the entire time so don’t expect them to fix that add on for years folks.
Zanshin Tactics can not go live in that state, that is broken as hell. Any mid tier looper will now get clobbered at pallets where they need to make plays. Insane move bhvr.
@@cold-wolf Just because that’s the case doesn’t change the fact that this will break loops where as a survivor you have to play well to not get hit and still might, now your just gonna get free hits and zoned into oblivion. Tiles like the long wall short wall with a pallet in the middle. As if the huntress buff wasn’t annoying already.
@@mikoajf.7549 It's the opposite. Since distortion recharges when a chase is started. Distortion is the only counter to the new predator (besides sole survivor after 1 or more person has died)
SM got Freddied. She's literally useless now, her power is impossible to use. She's a B tier M1 killer, all they had to do was remove Stealth Mode and remove Hindered from Scans when Claw Trapped. That's it. That's all they had to do. Instead she's been shoved down to loathe in the swamp of shit with Freddy and Myers. Also can I just say the wording on the first nerf is awkward, it reads as though she hindered you every time you get scanned which isn't the case, you only get hindered if you have a Claw Trap.
Yeah I honestly don't have any clue why she gets stealth when deploying a drone. It really is not hard at all to avoid being claw trapped and now the only thing you gain from it is radar?
There was no actual thought put into any of her nerfs. All BHVR was thinking was "how can we get the DbD playerbase to shut up about her?" So that's what they did.
I really think they could've just removed Skull Merchant's free Undetectable when she puts out a Droid and maybe made it a hacking a drone gets rid of either the claw trap or at least one scan level. Everything here feels like overkill.
The problem with this is that when you get scanned by a drone and you're not in chase, you'd just hack the drone and remove that level with no penalty. There'd be no point. It would completely remove the trap playstyle (though this patch will do that already)
It seems like this update is trying to encourage a more chase oriented play style for killers and help counter the Gen regression meta. Zanshin Tactics is a crazy good re-work, and new Predator is also super strong seemingly
@@huntermattocks7200 Zanshin will be broken, just think about huntress at mind game pallets, I really hope that perk doesn’t go live, shit will be insanely busted, also just seems boring, oh he has Zanshin, I guess every low to mid tier pallet is unplayable, cool.
They could have kept the token system with distortion but only made it recharge during chase time. This would incentivize longer chases and wouldn’t have completely gutted the main counter that survivors had to the hundreds of aura perks/addons in the game.
5:10 Gotta disagree. Obviously grouping up and being found by the Killer is bad. And you also do gens at lowered efficiency when doing a gen together. HOWEVER, doing a gen together means that a ~30 second chase is now good enough to be on course for victory. If you have spread out Survivors doing gens, it will generally take them each 90 seconds to finish anything. This lets you get your chases, get your Pain Res's, get your Pops, etc. But if these gens are being tag teamed while you're in chase, suddenly these perks have nothing to regress. And in regards to Discordance, that perk is really good at preventing this from happening. Discordance is really good at making sure your gen regression perks see the light of day.
It could be better but it also could be a lot worse if the killer gets to chase 2 people instead of 1, plus you could be splitting that progress on 2 gens. There's very little situations where healing then running together is better than healing and running away from each other.
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 I didn't say they were. But you only lose about 6 seconds. That's still very much worth getting the gen done before it can be regressed. You still have another person doing another gen and the last person being chased. Double teaming gens is the safety net. But you know what, don't worry about it, lol. As a Killer player, I'm all for nobody tag teaming gens.
Scott doesn't think Discordance is good because he just focuses chase and doesn't really defend gens. That being said, Discordance is really good. I like to run it with Pop.
I feel like people are missing that DMS now no longer works with Pop at all when you used to be able to use them together. That's a pretty major regression/stall interaction that's gone.
with pop? you couldnt use it with pop because if they let go, you couldnt kick the gen. it still works with pain res the exact same but better, if thats what you mean. the purpose of this change was for the interaction with grim embrace, which is what you should have said
Combine the new Deathbound with Forced Penance. 😄 If a survivor heals someone they become Oblivious if they are more than 8 meters away from the person they healed. But if they stay within 8 meters of someone else then Forced Penance will trigger if you hit either of them (since Protection Hits trigger if survivors are within 10 meters of each other) and they'll become Broken for a fairly long time.
I liked skull merchant as the "stack buffs and then chase" killer. Idk, ive just always loved stacking buffs in games, so i wish they had removed the hinder and kept the speed boost instead of giving survivors something to feel bad about and the killer less to feel good about
@@sebastianwargny626 I think blight and nurse players are more unfun, people like you hate killers with items you have to interact with not to mention she was fine after the original nerf and could have been changed to be more fun rather than being eliminated entirely.
What about those challenges were it says kill survivors with your own hand? That means you need the 4K with the new mori system. Unless you play killers that have a unique mori
BHVR nerfing every possible way to prevent the killer from seeing your aura, adding and buffing a billion perks for killer to see auras, meanwhile distortion is still only one of two ways that you can even ever prevent aura reading. We need an actual Undetectable effect for survs, and have pretty much every perk that blocks scratch marks temporarily, also give Undetectable to survs. Distortion was only problematic because it countered aura perks always constantly the entire game. (They really shoulda done nothing to it but make it regain tokens in chase instead of in TR) We need other ways to sometimes prevent aura reading though. Since they keep adding ways for the killer to just have continuous wall hacks(Weave and now Zanshin, which theres no way it goes live without a cooldown or something)
@@jayyh_01 But the maps are becoming smaller too + it's not just Weave that killers run, there's multiple other aura reading perks. Distortion as it is now is just not going to get used. Some matches Tokens get ate like candy, then others you don't get use of distortion at all... then other times it gets used once or twice. The value of the Tokens is great, and imo never seemed overpowered, if anything they really should have just limited it to 2 tokens maximum. The changes across the maps, and changes to Distortion is going to not be a fun experience.
Blood Rush automatically re-triggers Sprint Burst when used while sprinting, so the meme build would not work with Sprint Burst but it would with the gigachad Dead Hard into Balanced Landing. It also does not stack with itself, you instead can only activate Blood Rush when you are no longer using an exhaustion perk, so you get double the duration. We'll Make It is additive, so they heal at 150% speed with Leverage, however if Leverage is applied after We'll Make It and is multiplicative, then they heal at 100%.
Is that true? I seem to remember Blood Rush was an activation perk. I admit, the way they worded the changes made it not clear how it would happen. With Sprint Burst, I'd think it would let you sprint away from the hook, then for 60s or so you can Sprint Burst on demand.
@@Tory-JJok but double exhaustion with blood rush is pretty based, plus blood rush is on a timer after being unhooked so you have to actively be tunneling someone in order for it to activate
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 I was talking about the hypothetical change they were working on 2 years ago where if all 4 survivors were slugged at once, they would all be instantly morid and the game would end. I know how current moris work, I have 4k hours on DBD.
@@Crota0100 wow you must be really good. Anyways, that system was proposed to instantly Maury the last survivor alive when the game was over The way you're describing it isn't the old system that they were proposing Also between my two accounts since I got myself a new PC I have at least 6000 hours, but I feel like that really doesn't matter You didn't slug everybody and get 4 moris I literally have a running list of really basic shit and pointers for people because so many people don't know shit and this game so please forgive me if I thought you were maybe talking about devour or God knows what
I don’t know who said Sprint Burst “constantly checks” while sprinting, but they’re wrong. I’ve used Sprint Burst a ton and it’s actually possible with frame-perfect timing (usually by accident while trying to 99 exhaustion) to start running just as you lose exhaustion and not trigger Sprint Burst. You can keep running and it will not trigger until you let go of the run button or stop moving, then run again.
Bruh what was the purpose of the skull merchant change? She wasn’t even good it’s like they just nerfed her to convince survivors not to dc against her.
seriously, she was fine after the rework but people are still terrified of her. I dont know how they can possibly make her worse after this so her alleged rework better be great
@@swirlyderp7288 like I could maybe understand the nerf of the speed boost but like the slowdown change was a little crazy…that’s her whole power basically…and then the 1 scan line is just a slap in the face
@@gottmilk_ the speed/hinder thing is pretty wild too because Clown literally does that too, but the 1 can line was just a straight bullet to the killer
I don’t get where this whole “Every single person who uses Distortion is a Rat” mentality people suddenly have came from. I rarely see anyone even use Distortion anyway, and the few people I do find aren’t even hiding the entire time. I’ve literally been using Distortion since Jeff came out, it’s been a mainstay in most of my builds, yet I’m usually one of the more altruistic survivors in my games. Like is it that hard to believe some people just don’t want to get seen while they are on a gen or while going for a save if the killer runs one of their 700 aura perks or an aura addon (Which literally every killer has one of)? Also, everyone completely overestimates how easily you can save your tokens. Most aura perks and addons trigger VERY often, meaning losing 2 (or 3) tokens at the same time isn’t a rare occurrence. Then with the recharging, half the killers straight up make it basically impossible to recharge tokens because their power makes them undetectable, and there’s also a dozen perks that either reduce your Terror Radius, or make you undetectable. Do people just forget about that? Not to mention Killer Instinct exists. Point is, people got this “Distortion user = coward who hides” thing out of nowhere, and people think it’s OP for literally no reason. Also, maybe just don’t rely on wall hacks to win as Killer if Distortion really bothers you that much. Such a shame a decent perk got gutted for no reason.
It's the same noobs every match who haven't taken a chase but everyone else is on death hook. Two ppl die. The rat is clueless those two deaths are bc THEY wouldn't take a chase/down
I wish there was more actual discussion about Skull Merchant besides just "F this killer". As a new player to this game i genuinely dont know what the issues people have with her are and ive never even got a chance to her to see for myself. Hell, the pure distane against this killer made me get her before a lot of other killers just to see what all the fuss is...and i still dont really get it honestly. I might sound crazy, but if merchant had a bit more limitations to her power (maybe something like if skull merchany is in a drones radius it cant apply lockon unless they're already clawtrapped or something) then she could have the potential to be a very fun killer to face....at least more potential than the killer that can go through walls.
There's a hens video from a while back before her mild rework that showcased the problems she brought to the game. There's no stakes in skull merchant gameplay, and there was almost literally no hope of beating a skull merchant as a solo queue survivor and barely any hope in a swf. Prior to this upcoming set of nerfs she just got numerous rewards for simply pressing m2 with no consideration for the consequences. Heavy hinder to the survivor, haste, forces the survivor to leave the loop, provides information, injures for free, applies broken for free. A toddler could play SM and win, she's just boring to play as and against
@@NewSirenSong Couldn't the devs just get rid of some of those effects then? Get rid of the broken and haste. It was fun to move quickly but probably unnecessary. Also, why are you forced to leave a loop? I've watched a couple of videos about her ability and they say that the drone's radius can be avoided by either crouching, standing still, or blocking LOS...those things should take to much time to do should they... Don't mean to sound rude or anything just genuinely curious.
Im not sure how people feel about her power, but i was thinking they could make her into a full stealth tracking character instead of a damaging drone or hindered broken effects
When killer run multiple aura perks they cannot run as much slowdown. I would say it’s a win win, however I never was a distortion user so it’s probably not on me to judge these changes
@@Tory-JJi thought it was a reference to Scott’s April Fools patch notes video that ends with the patch notes telling Scott to wake up, revealing that everything was fake and just a dream…
I don't like the distort nerf, why are killers allowed to aura you up the ass but you cant use one of the ONLY FOUR perk slots to counter auras? Addon auras, auras after hook, auras when they kick gens, auras when you walk past a totem, more and more. Why couldn't they have just middle grounded the nerf and made it 3 tokens but you only got tokens from actively being in chase? Meaning you would need to get chased for a reasonable time to get use of it? Why did they insist on killing stealth in dbd? But perhaps its a worthy sacrifice for probably the most broken killer basekit of all time, SM. Would literally rather do three blink nurse in 2016 man. Have no idea how a killer that slows you like crazy, speeds up like crazy, injures you if you dare to step in an AOE half the maps size and blocks you from healing, gives killer free radar, and gives killer crazy insidious power ever got greenlit but it happened and I am very happy to see the downfall.
You are actually insane to think 2016 nurse is more fun to play against than the current skull merchant’s basekit. Skull merchant wasn’t even broken, despite all the bs she had. She was just a glorified m1 killer with a bunch of different effects to make her stronger in chase. Even then she was never a top tier killer with this kit. She doesn’t have map mobility and if you disable her drones then she becomes useless. You can literally just hold w to waste soo much of her time if you really have that much trouble countering her drones. The reason skull merchant got nerfed is because of people refusing to learn her counterplay giving sm a 70% kill rate because of ragequitters. Distortion deserved to be changed because of how boring the perk is to verse. You literally get rewarded for hiding from the killer which caused your teammates to get targeted/ tunnled more often by the killer. The only people that like distortion are the people that play survivor to NOT get chased. Absolutely bougous.
The biggest issue with Distortion is for whole-team aura perks like BBQ/Floods, it was "Go after these three instead". Plus, many aura perks were off-meta when compared to slowdown perks that have always been an issue. When someone puts on the clown paint and runs something silly like Alien Instinct, I'm All Ears, etc, it sucks that they get punished so heavily for it - *especially* for perks that only activate for a single survivor at a time.
@@Katana314 distortion literally punished killers for running aura reading perks, which just incentivizes more killers to run gen slowdown. Aura reading is not broken, aura reading is only as strong as the person utilizing it. The same argument is said for the survivor perk windows of opportunity. Hence why I dislike people defending distortions rat playstyle. How about instead get better in chases so that it doesn’t matter if the killer sees your aura.
Auras when you start the match Auras when the killer opens a locker & you're near a locker Auras when the killer opens a locker and you then also scream Auras when you're near a totem Auras when you cleanse a totem Auras when you're near a chest Auras when you hit a good skill check Auras when a gen is kicked Auras when you pop a gen Auras when you're on a gen and someone gets downed Auras when someone is being carried Auras when you're near a hook Auras when someone gets hooked Auras when someone gets hooked x2 Auras when the obsession gets hooked Auras when someone gets unhooked Auras when you escape a chase Auras when you try to blind Auras when the killer is stunned Auras when you get injured Auras when you heal Auras when the killer holds M2 & "stalks" Auras when the killer's invisible near you Auras when any of the killers use their ability (Someone without an addon!) Auras when you puke every 20 seconds Auras when a pallet is broken Auras when a wall is broken Auras when you vault Auras when you're near a dropped pallet Auras when you scream Auras when you enter the basement Auras when you're at the exit gate Auras when a bottle is thrown near you Auras when you're hit by a ranged attack Auras if you bring Mettle of Man "Off-brand Auras" that are called "Killer Instinct". Auras auras auras auras auras. So many more I probably forgot about. Yep. Killer mains are definitely right. Distortion is OP it honestly should just permanently show all survivors aura instead. I think killers should have 5 aura reading perks and still room for slowdown perks. Especially killers that have insta-down abilities & addons. Not enough ways for killers to see auras btw when's the next aura perk coming out?
Sprint Burst activates when you start running. You can perfectly "99" exhaustion (exhaustion fully expires and the icon dissappears from the hud) without activating sprint burst. At any point you need only to release and re-grab sprint to get your sprint burst to activate
The Bloodrush change possibilities are varied. You could potentially do: Two Head Ons in a row. Two Dramaturgys in a row. Break exhaustion to force Iron Will to activate. Use exhaustion perk combos, like Deadhard and Adrenaline so that after you use dead hard to delay the killer just enough for your team to finish generators, you can pre-emptively activate Blood rush to allow yourself a free heal on top of that cheeky hit.
Hey Scott! I'm subbed on twitch, but I kinda hate the app, so I loved the yt lives. Will those come back? Regardless, thnx for the content for over a decade ❤
as a user of distorition i know rhere is some people who do play like rats i agree i just use it because randomly having the killer know where i am without my knowledge is wack af to me
Survivors got a bunch of buffs, some of which very obviously meta defining! "What did killer get?" "Uhhh... You get a free Mori every game now! ...provided you catch the last survivor instead of letting them escape! ... And can no longer get Moris without perks or add-ons... But free mori"
@@salvadorelastname9095 Aura doesn't help when you get genrushed since slowdown is at the weakest it's been in years. Pop nerfed to a pathetic state and depends on the killer's mobility (so it only helps a few killers that can quickly get to the most progressed gen), pain res nerfed and RNG dependent, dead man's switch nerfed, call of brine useless, ruin useless.
i think they should have kept the tokens on distortion but with this new chase requirement as a replacement to building them by being in the terror radius. 1 token is nothing when killers have 1000 ways to read your aura *without you knowing*. You're not even going to have that 1 distortion stack midchase most of the time. They should also be adding tracking perks that dont rely on aura reading to counter things like distortion instead of directly nerfing it.
While I definitely agree, i love distortion, not as a rat, but as a teammate I can communicate to my friends what the aura reads are so they know when they're seen and how to avoid it if possible. This feels like overkill, make it recharge from gen progress so that they have to progress to game to retain their stealth benefits and information gathering. And alternative tracking is definitely an option, the new thwack is a great example, but we can't have old ultimate weapon back that forced a bad perk like calm spirit into meta because it was that overtuned. On demand tracking is an issue, there should be a tangible cost relative to the strength of the ability
@@NewSirenSong Same! I always engage with the killer when necessary and I find distortion is good for not getting caught off guard (which, with the insane amount of aura reading in this game, happens often). another helpful change i think would be survivors getting an audio alert when their aura is being read as a *basekit* feature -- i think the 2v8 mode did this unless i was misinterpreting the sound effect.
I absolutely despise these mori reworks. I adored being able to mori everyone. It wasn't broken. It wasn't overpowered. It was just a cool thing you can go for, a mori for each person. I don't know why they insist on keep messing with the system now that it's just for flashiness.
@@ChaosTheStrange It never did. All it did was make it so you didn't have to pick up someone and put them on the hook the last time. But the primary appeal was the cool animation. Speaking of, say goodbye to the days of photobombing Ghostface kills.
@@YingShanLT It absolutely did. Making it so it only worked on death hook encouraged a very large amount of killers who used it to tunnel one person out so they could get the mori. As for the enhancement, it ignores Decisive Strike's anti-tunnel if they didn't have the chance to use it the first time. Yeah it's cool but it doesn't really matter because no matter what way you slice it, if someone has a mori, they're more likely to try and tunnel, be it to their benefit or their detriment, trying to get the mori animation.
@@ChaosTheStrange In all the games I had against killers, I never once encountered a killer using a mori to tunnel anyone out. Literally ever. Not that it would matter too much anyways, since they would be tunneling that person out anyways. What is the likelihood of that not only happening, but also happening to someone with DS and who also didn't get to use it their first time? You think entirely too poor of killers.
@@YingShanLT I play both sides pretty equally for one, I'm not an idiot. By it's core design, having something that skips the hooking/pickup process entirely on the last hook AND has an exclusive animation that people will want to see in of itself would drive an enhanced number of killers to tunnel than they would otherwise, it's not only a statistical impossibility for it not to, but I've seen it plenty of times. There's no way to prove or disprove that a killer would still be tunneling without the mori in play, but it is undeniable that it does and will happen more. Also, people get mori'd through their ds alot more than you'd probably think, it's just that not as many people use moris to begin with unless they're newer because they're more busy burning bloodpoints or sacrifical ward, which they'll still be able to do next update AND get the mori animation. If you really want to mori everyone that badly, just run Devour Hope and gamble.
A new killer chase combo to try could be the new Genetic Limits, Rapid Brutality, and Save the Best for Last. Basically when you hit a healthy survivor with a basic attack, you recover from the hit more quickly, get a movement speed boost to catch up as well, and meanwhile the survivor is immediately Exhausted for probably the whole follow-up chase that ensues. (You can also throw in the new Predator perk to make it even more difficult for a survivor you just hit to be able to get away.)
I love the Skull Merchant nerf. It shows perfectly how BHVR works internally. They just nerf stuff based on how much survivors cry about it without actually thinking about what they're doing.
@@derrian6969 So if someone knows how something works and points it out for others to read he shouldn't have pointed it out in the first place because he already knew it? What are you even talking about?
The community has proven that if you whine and cry about something enough instead of actually putting in the effort to counter it, you'll eventually get what you want.
Well a big thing with Skull merchant is if you couldnt block the 3gen set up you were basically fucked, and she was REALLY good at getting that lockdown. like dont get me a wrong a 3 gen is bad but with a lot of other killers you can break it. but between her speed and hinder and everything it was basically impossible to break (I say impossible, anything is possible, but more so you had almost no chance as a solo, and a tiny chance as a swf.) i guess my only thing with was i dont see SM getting picked? like idk i feel like i dont really see that many games with her but then again im also a relatively low mmr (i play casually, but i keep very up to date on buffs/nerfs and such). like a lot of people wouldnt pick her cause ppl would just dc or the gameplay was boring. BUT if theres rats for Survivors theres rats for killers and that was basically the type of community that rallied around her (NOT EVERYONE but those people were very loud and obnoxious). The issue with distortion is if people ran it and played the game normally it would have been fine, still a bit strong but not busted. but the perk is golden among rat survs that only want to enter the game, do nothing, and leave (honestly feel like i see this more than SM but tbf theres 4 surv 1 killer statisically youll just see the surv rats more). it made it easier to be a rat, nerfing wont stop rats but it no longer is super easy to do, hopefully meaning there will be LESS rat play. because another thing that would happen is people would maybe play at first then after one hook become a rat in the game. it makes it harder for survs to just be salty and hide. its also a lot harder to get someone banned for rat behavior cause you gotta prove they are genuinely doing nothing and not just 'being scared' and hiding. so nerfing a perk rats value is a lot easier to do than trying to figure out who actually is a rat and who isnt.
Unless I'm mistaken. Trouble Shooter only works after dropping a pallet while Zanshin procs whenever the survivor gets near a dropped pallet. Basically killers can mind game instead of kick pallet go next loop. Shadowbuff to Any Means Necessary.
I wish I could just play Skull Merchant and no one give me shit. The fact that people go next all the time, inflating her kill rate, is what did this. And for what? Not wanting to learn how to play against one of the weakest killers in the game? Should Hag be deleted cuz playing against her is so different? Idk. Why make her unplayable rather than tuning her kit to be more fun for both sides? They just gave up and that shit sucks.
The fact that Scott himself says he doesn't care WHILE admitting it's a badly designed nerf should tell you what you need to know . This community is rancid from top to bottom , except from a few individuals . Just because you play a certain killer , people will legit tell you to switch mains or , better yet , to off yourself instead of saying " Hey those nerfs are dumb , do not put them in without compensation " even when they don't like the killer . A game's community should strive for the good of the game in its entirety while also being constructive about it . The DBD shows that if a character is unpopular , you will get treated differently jsut because . In short, fuck this game and fuck this community . Play for yourselves and ignore dipshits that will try to grandstand you because you play a character .
Look, even if you do learn the counterplay, it isn't interesting and doesn't feel interactive at all. Disarming the drones feels pointless when they reactivate after a while on their own anyway and SM can recall them from across the map. They're also impossible to deal with during a chase because the drones each cover such a large zone and the QTE required to disarm the drone can't reasonably be done with SM hitting you first. So nothing can be done about the power during chase unless a teammate intervenes, which they won't. And while the same can be said about Trapper's traps and they're technically more lethal, they're also much easier to avoid and don't reset themselves automatically without an Iri add-on. SM mains keep saying "just disable the drones, it's not that hard", but genuinely, disarming drones feels pointless a big chunk of the time. If Trapper's traps don't reset themselves base kit, Merchant's drones shouldn't either. A lot of people think that disarming a drone should remove a stack of lock-on, while SM's defenders say that wouldn't make sense when Ghostface doesn't have anything for a similar mechanic. But the difference here is that if Ghostface can't down you before his mark runs out, he once again needs to hit you twice or mark you again to get a down. With Skull Merchant, when the clawtrap gets removed you're still injured. Running out the clawtrap time does nothing for you if you're still getting chased by the Merchant. And with how unavoidable the scanning beams are mid-chase (because if you crouch or stand still to avoid them Merchant will obviously just be able to M1 you anyway), now you're injured, and are probably still going to get a lock on stack running while running away. Not to mention that Ghostface doesn't have obnoxious haste and hinder stacking, that feels entirely unearned because survivors outside of the chase can activate the haste. The haste never should have been added to her power in the first place, and it's about time it got removed. Skull Merchant's power is a catch 22, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Her original power was obviously like that, but it's still like that now. Clawtraps are a bad mechanic. Skull Merchant's counterplay feels futile, and gameplay against her feels so uninteractive and like a chore. She has the most braindead playstyle in the game, and that's corroborated by how many people say they like Skull Merchant because she's so much less stressful to play than the others. Yeah, maybe that's because it requires absolutely no effort or skill to get value out of the power? So if you play a decent M1 chaser, you're just going to win most of your matches without difficulty. Also, BHVR's doing another full rework on Merchant next year. They're just nerfing her now so that the rest of us don't have to put up with this boring miserable killer anymore until then, because even BHVR can't stand behind what they've created here anymore. I'm sorry, but if you've put your eggs in the Skull Merchant basket, you have only yourself to blame. I mean what did you THINK was going to happen? No, the last rework didn't fix her. People aren't still just upset about old Skull Merchant. News flash; current Skull Merchant isn't fun either. She's not well designed, she's boring and tedious, and almost as problematic as old merchant just for completely different reasons.
Okay, let's say what you said is all true and there's no argument. Then it's a similar situation to knight, really unfun gameplay loop sure. But they didn't just completely gut knight's power when they reworked him, they gave him SOME compensation. This update is a horribly made band-aid fix for people who don't like playing against a killer with a 2% pick rate. And don't act like players won't still go next against nerfed merchant, so our games will still have that problem as well. Idc if you don't like the killer or her design or her counterplay, there is 0 reason to absolutely gut this killer except to make the people who play her so miserable she doesn't get played.
The best thing about skull merchant getting bodied is Pixel Bush having a fucking meltdown on Twitter. Play literally anything else, you joke. The second best thing is Skull Merchant getting nerfed.
Why are you happy with Skull Merchant getting nerfed when she was already C tier before the nerfs? What, you enjoy seeing nurse more? Your people are incomprehensible.
@@DaftPanda1bro why is your unskilled ass so worried about being bodied by a C tier killer, just dont be an idiot and don’t get scanned lmao I run skull merchants for ages
The new Blood Rush could have some fun survivor builds with it. For instance, if you - Blood Rush (recover from Exhaustion using the ability button after an unhook) - Overcome (the after an injury movement speed lasts an extra 2 seconds. This does work if you are hit immediately after an unhook as well) - Iron Will (you make no injury noises while not Exhausted) - Lucky Break (you leave no scratch marks or blood pools after being injured) So if the killer tries to go after you right after you are unhooked and hits you, you get to run a 6.6 m/s for 3.8 seconds because of Overcome and (as long as your timer is still up) have no scratch marks or blood trail because of Lucky Break. And while you're running you can immediately lose the Exhaustion using Blood Rush which turns Iron Will on so you also make practically no noise as well. That's a LOT of distance you can cover to get to a potential hiding spot to mend and then get healed by someone else (or heal yourself with a medkit if you have one). Also a goofy build that you could try would be Blood Rush and Dramaturgy. After an unhook, you get healed by someone else (don't heal yourself or you lose Blood Rush). Then once you're healthy you can use Dramaturgy twice in a row with Blood Rush, potentially getting two rare items in the process. 😄
overcome doesnt work when your injured so this wouldn't work, also just bring bite the bullet it does the same thing as this entire build for 1 perk slot instead of 4. dramaturgy doesn't do the same effect 2 times in a row so you cant use it to get 2 items.
@@kogzy4010 Bite the Bullet does not “do the same thing as the entire build”, that perk only silences you while you are healing. Iron Will works all the time as long as you aren’t exhausted, even running. Bite the Bullet also has none of the other effects in the build. You’re right about Overcome not triggering if you’re already injured. It would, though, work if you are healed by someone after being unhooked As far as Dramaturgy, I missed that it doesn’t do effects twice in a row. Still, it’s two chances in a row to get a rare item. 🤷♂️
Missed the chance to talk about Dramaturgy and Bloodrush Dramarurgy is basically a pocket sprint burst, so you can be MUCH more smart with Dramaturgy over sprint burst, granting you 2 intentionally timed bursts of speed during a tunnel
Empathy actually has a range limit now. It is still huge, 128m to be exact. Covers pretty much all maps, but it does have some niche situations of not providing global coverage, and this was done to reduce to the performance impact from the perk's original range limit being 100 km. I think they should bump it up a little bit to cover the niche situations, but it's whatever.
About the "Sprint Burst", I'm pretty sure you have to stop and start sprinting again, cuz I was able to have no exhaustion whatsoever and was still running without using Sprint Burst. (And the moment I stopped, It activated once I started sprinting again)
48:21 "50 seconds is so long imagine you got this and pop" Man, Pop is only usable for 45 seconds after a hook happens, MAN I CANNOT STAND PEOPLE LMFAO! I gotta stop commenting on this video though. Just so much to talk about...
Distortion nerf is really bad. Not even a nerf, it’s a gut. The token system should have remained, however there should be collaborative action in order for the tokens to be regained, furthermore the token count should start at 0 and have a max of 1 or 2 tokens. Complete a gen, take a survivor off hook, body block, take a chase or something with element of risk. It would still prevent rat behaviour whilst ensuring the perk has longevity.
I absolutely love when they buff the obscure and otherwise useless perks. It always makes for some fun combos and changes up survivor play from the usual 6-8 perks that are *actually* usable.
On Skull Merchant: Idiot BHVR Dev: "So I looked at the charts and noticed an M1 Killer who ISN'T Nurse or Blight racking up a lot of kills and it's Skull Merchant, our premier trapper-chaser replacement! She's too stronk, so let's remove her speed advantage to compensate for her ability to track things!" Sane Behavior Dev: "Uh, won't that just make her into a bad clone of Trapper? Specifically, the most cancerous version of Trapper nobody likes playing against?" Idiot Dev: "Of course not! Skull Merchant has DRONES! She can track people!!" Sane Dev: "But if we take away her speed advantage in chase, which is the only thing she has IN chase mind, why should she even bother chasing instead of just forcing a down and camping basement with her drones?" Idiot Dev: "Because shut up. Now get me my sammich baggie of drain cleaner. I'mma do a line to get even more inspiration!" Skull Merchant? Welcome to Trapper and Clown Tier, circa 2020. Enjoy your stay in Hell.
11:00 YES you can. definitely can. im a main healer build user, i use - desperate measures, botanic, Empathic Connection, we ll make it, + medkit with seringe with purple 15% speed. - using the medkit ("well make it"activated of course) will let you heal a downed survivor but very narrowly you may get downed, making sure you start healling as soon as possible. now, without "Empathic Connection" but with "we are gonna live forever" you definitely can heal as soon the player is downed and have much time to escape. however as of that update, i will remove desperate measures (instead of emphatic connection) to use WAGLF and have the most efficient heal build, downside is unhooking speed without the desperate measures but i wonder how useful it is actually.
you can see when another person has corrective action so you could fail on prepose to get the bonus effects of it and im pretty sure it works on yourself post update
I just realized they didn't rework Blood Pact, so Power of Two is just straight up better now... They should remove the range requirement for Blood Pact, and make it deactivate when injured.
I still have trust issues Scott
True
never forget "patch 7.0.0"
Lmao glad others remember that one 🥲
That was 3 years ago, he’s not doing it again
From fucking what? 🤔
Scottzdarva length video
I'm also curious about Scottsz & darva's length 😳👌
@@TheDeathz98bruh
@@TheDeathz98Sorry man, Scott's already taken. He and Zubat are happy together.
Skully basically get putted in the "Until the normal rework" corner.
She seems fine to me
We got a new worst killer ladies and gentlemen
Coming soon 2029
they even pulled down her DLC chapter on Steam.
@@BunnyBoyUk I thought you were joking but nope she's gone lol
They really have no idea what to do with skull merchant, they just decided to put her down so nobody would play her and less people would complain
She deserved it, won't elaborate.
this is a good thing because nothing is better than than ruining the game and being the reason it's closed
Good. Literally no one is upset about that other than the 3 skull merchant players who make peoples games miserable.
@@Puretrash747 And at this point, that’s the best thing they do with her besides removing her from the game outright, which they obviously can’t do from the liability end as a non-zero amount of players spent actual money buying that killer.
She'll get reworked next year, this is until then
Alternate title for patch: Pixel Bush has a very, extremely, no good, bad day
Good. Fuck 'im. His justifications on liking Skull Merchant are garbo.
@@OmnipotentGogglesHe doesn't need to justify his liking of Skully any more than you need to justify your username.
bunch of haters in Scott's comments dude oml 😂
I think he's just a contrarian. People don't like Twins and Skull Merchant, but he does. People like Wesker, he doesn't.
@@poissonsumac7922 Great comment xD
The guy with the 100+ pages guide on clown is going to be furious at the zenshin tactics change. XD
the opposite in fact, he never breaks pallets so now he gets free mind games.
@@pvdg3515 Not to um actually but arinad (I think is their name) uses the addon which reveals survivors when he’s in yellow gas, which already does the job of new zanshin but better imo. For builds without this addon, new zanshin will be an amazing perk for clown. Either way, clown has lost a great playstyle unless this perk gets reverted.
@@jaida3377 zanshin wasn’t even remotely necessary for that tactic. I don’t care how many pages that guy writes about it; there’s no scenario where seeing the pallet you already know about will help you down someone.
@@PistolSlinginMothMan The point of zanshin on clown is to throw yellow bottles proactively, BEFORE the survivors drops the pallet. If you think about it, for a player that knows how to outplay literally every tile knowing your surroundings ahead of time is incredibly strong. Why randomly discredit people you haven’t bothered learning anything about?
yeah the perk was fine , not necessarily good but didn't need a change
Skull merchant just got executed cartel style 💀
Freddy is no longer the worst killer
@@Sweetness_01We did it boys, Freddy is officially buffed
Executed just in like the dark mangas
Thank God
@@mitchsz bro would rather have 3 minute nurse matches
We're LITERALLY going in a full circle with twins. First they nerfed her, tried reworking, went back to before the nerfs, now nerfing her cooldowns again lol
And I *still* wish they would more heavily encourage using Victor on healthy survivors instead of injured.
It's cuz dowsey's back
Cuz survivor that went against that 1 twin main are mad
At this point they're just saying fuck it if we nerf them enough nobody will play it and face against it less
@@steaksoymilk3195 honestly I think they couldn't figure out what to do with the twins so they just reverted changes and going to nerf them all over again just so it seems like they're doing something
“We hear Pixel bush was having fun playing twins and skull merchant, so we decided to nerf them both for fun”
@@Mazerwolf outplaying a dangerous power should have a good reward for the survivor, I'm about it. And SM had too much going on at once, she was clown with better information, better chase, better map pressure, and some built in slowdown.
@@NewSirenSongidk about you, but the combination of all these nerfs make skull merchant worse than freddy imo
@@NewSirenSongshe got fucking executed she has literally nothing, it's clown with more steps, oh wait THERES NO HINDER EXCEPT 5%
@@NewSirenSong
And still a mediocre killer who only thrives because noobs can't be bothered look up a 5 min video at 1.5 speed to see how the killer works.
@ToveriJuri killers who can't be bothered to play something more interesting because they're too lazy to learn a killer that doesn't get free rewards for pressing m2 are just as problematic, they just removed one that was effecting more people
R.I.P. Ghostface Photobombs
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Can't you can still do it with perk moris? I thought the "cinematic" finale mori was only for that last survivor mechanic?
can still happen with perk moris like devour
Rancor
I’m always happy when the devs just go buck wild with unused perks!
I understand why they do this. Problem is people rarely steer away from meta and those who do have their go to perks so most of these won't see any increased usage.
@@CaptToilet I can at least seem some fun JRM content in the future atm!
@@STARM-t9b For sure, at least the youtubers get content I can consume.
Now watch in horror as the community still DCs on sight of the Skull Merchant because they just don't know no better.
Because original skull merchant was so awful that people are trained to kill them self’s at the site because there was no winning with OG SM
@@Isaac7evenYeah, but she got reworked, now she is Fun and easy to counter
Yep, people still gonna insta DC
@@Gabriel-ql2lu naw shes unappealing has shit lore and the gameplay is awful. i hate having 3 status effects while dull merchant is chasing me with haste and undetectable
@@Gabriel-ql2lu no, you just enjoy her cheap play style and try to get everyone to like it aswell, just say ur a cheap person who uses SM and move on
They took Distortion around back, forced it on it's knees and shot it in the head with a Luger. Not that I care much about it but I find it hilarious that it got an Iron Will treatment
Completely unnecessary overkill which is the usual for behavior when nerfing perks
It'll still be good, you just have to scurry out of your rat hole sometimes now. Like when the killer picks up a survivor, get that free chase and escape while they're hooking. Or run sabo. As for me, I mainly used it to test what perks they had and call it out. So I'll be switching to object of obsession for that now.
@@TheKingCole for real. All they had to do was make it so you got tokens back by being in chase. That's literally all they had to do. But nope, no stacks. guess killers just get to aura read for free now, which begs the question when are survivors getting superior aura read perks that let you see undetectable killers.
@@izzywn5802 You don't get Distortion back after the chase. Distortion will re-activate during a chase, blocking aura reveals that happen during the chase, but once it ends, you are no longer protected by Distortion
@@danielcope7492 yeah that's a pipe dream I'm afraid brother 😑 the best we can do is slap on object and atleast see their ass right back when they pop off all 4 of their aura perks and their 2 aura add ons 💀
The biggest nerf is the removal of the environment during Moris because the entire Mori being blocked by a random wall is the funniest shit to me.
Merchant has got to be a case study in live service games at this point. Never has bhvr had a good plan w her
Too much aura reading. Especially with Distortion destroyed. A better way wouldve been to keep the token system but only have them recharge during chase. With the massive number of aura reading perks and addons in the game now every survivor might as well run OoO.
i mean, past a certain threshold the number of options for aura reading doesn't make them stronger, killers still have the same number of perk and addon slots. the only issue with the high number of aura perks is that survivors aren't informed their aura is visible, so you can't tell which the killer brought like you can with Exposed perks and such. it would be nice if they added a status effect indicator.
that said, the reason the devs add so many aura options is probably because they're safe. just seeing where distant survivors are doesn't win the game for you - doesn't slow gen progress or win chases. it's hard to make an information perk that ruins the game for anyone, while it's easy to make a slowdown or chase perk that does.
the new mid-chase short-range aura perks added in this patch are an exception to that, acting more like chase perks than normal information perks... but those are the kind that new distortion is most useful against, which is cool.
i personally really like the idea of distortion as a perk used to hide mid-chase, like dance with me, quick and quiet, lucky break, etc. those sorts of plays are cooler and more engaging than the type of stealth that avoids ever starting chases. plus, escaping a chase actively wastes the killer's time, so encouraging that sort of play won't cause bad survivors to throw games by diverting attention to their teammates.
i hope they eventually buff this new distortion while keeping its basic design - i think if it reactivated continuously while in a chase and worked on killer instinct rather than just auras, it'd be good and healthy. but giving it multiple charges to use outside of a chase just gives it back the ability to throw solo queue games, so it's best to avoid that.
@@UltraSyre
Spoken like a true survivor only main. Status effect for aura reading would nerf them immensely and would outright just make perks like Lethal Pursuers useless for everyone but Cenobite.
@@ToveriJuri i mostly play killer.
its not "destroyed". yes it may be better to nerf it a bit less, but thats a healthy change, because 80% of people who used it were rats hiding the whole time and letting their mates down with a disadvantage. im playing my games 50/50 and never had problems for not running this beginner perk. its just simply annoying for your own team, and the killer to face. learn how to loop and you wont need distortion. im curious.. would you rather face a killer loaded with full meta slowdown, than a full aura build? less time on a gen, means more fun for me, but distortion users probably see this differently, since they are only hiding.
@@drypotato6990
Yeah, I have no idea where people are getting this idea of a killer that's being loaded with some imaginary fully loaded "meta" aura reading build.
Sure, the game has 20+ aura reading perks, but you have only 4 slots and Slowdown is still the most crucial way to win games. Unless you are playing something like Nurse or Blight a, full on aura reading build is outright stupid.
Right now, most killers will use one meta-aura reading perk that fits their killer or playstyle the best and something else for the other slots. two aura reading perks is very expensive unless it's a very specific niche build or specific killer setup.
Being jacked up on Aura reading is just not that useful. In my experience distortion is more often a dud of a perk that barely does anything most matches because aura reading while useful is just not necessary for a lot of killers.
a 1 hour analysis. I have something to enjoy in my trip to home after work. Thanks Scott
Your commute to work and back is an hour? Good lord you have my condolences lol
@@thedoomslayer5863 Thanks, its a pain but it is what it is. 3rd world problems baby
@@zarutodaskira It's comments like these that make me just shut up when I'm about to bitch about some first world problem lol. Keeps me humble and thankful.
I hate commuting.
The Counter Patch
Genetic limits Full counters Overcome
Leverage Full counters We'll make it
Predator Full counters New Distortion
Zanshin Tactics Full counters Parental Guidance
Q: Why are you guys nerfing Demonology Warlocks to the ground?
Ian Hazzikostas: Because we'd rather you didn't play Demonology.
Always relevant.
I know people hate distortion but I love how they make it super shit and then immediately update like 3 perks to be Aura reading.
They should’ve just made it so that distortion recovers tokens in chase compared to sitting in the terror radius. It’s completely useless now
46:20
Even Scott doesn't acknowledge that Freddy is still in this game.
At 29 mins Scott mentions clowns cigar box NOPE!!!! It’s been bugged for over 3 months and BHVR hasn’t said a single solitary word about it the entire time so don’t expect them to fix that add on for years folks.
Bardic Inspiration, too.
@@Korhi this has been pissing me off since I bought vecna dlc. Bardic inspiration was the only perk I cared about.
cigar box is gonna be bugged until 2025 I think, it's bhvr
Zanshin Tactics can not go live in that state, that is broken as hell. Any mid tier looper will now get clobbered at pallets where they need to make plays. Insane move bhvr.
Duration needs to be reduced to 7 seconds and a 20 seconds cooldown needs to be added
You need to have a certain type of power, but Artist, Dracula, Pyramid Head and Huntress stonks have gone up.
there are a lot of loops where you have to break a pallet tho. and a lot of short wall loops where aura reveal is not needed
@@cold-wolf Just because that’s the case doesn’t change the fact that this will break loops where as a survivor you have to play well to not get hit and still might, now your just gonna get free hits and zoned into oblivion. Tiles like the long wall short wall with a pallet in the middle. As if the huntress buff wasn’t annoying already.
Distortion nerf doesn't deter true rats from their mission.
#Rats4lyfe
Sad but true 07
The perk that allows you to see killers aura if they see your aura is gonna be popular agaib
Distortion also gets rid of scratch marks when it triggers, so if they try to read your aura during chase, you can potentially lose the killer!
New predator will prevent that sadly
@@mikoajf.7549 It's the opposite. Since distortion recharges when a chase is started. Distortion is the only counter to the new predator (besides sole survivor after 1 or more person has died)
SM got Freddied. She's literally useless now, her power is impossible to use. She's a B tier M1 killer, all they had to do was remove Stealth Mode and remove Hindered from Scans when Claw Trapped. That's it. That's all they had to do. Instead she's been shoved down to loathe in the swamp of shit with Freddy and Myers. Also can I just say the wording on the first nerf is awkward, it reads as though she hindered you every time you get scanned which isn't the case, you only get hindered if you have a Claw Trap.
Yeah, screw all SM players, they deserve it 🙏🙏🙏. Couldn't be more happy
Yeah I honestly don't have any clue why she gets stealth when deploying a drone. It really is not hard at all to avoid being claw trapped and now the only thing you gain from it is radar?
There was no actual thought put into any of her nerfs. All BHVR was thinking was "how can we get the DbD playerbase to shut up about her?" So that's what they did.
Short term solutions with no thought put into them is The BHVR guarantee™
nah random speedboosts from idiot teammates had to go.
I really think they could've just removed Skull Merchant's free Undetectable when she puts out a Droid and maybe made it a hacking a drone gets rid of either the claw trap or at least one scan level. Everything here feels like overkill.
getting hit because the skull merchant randomly got a speedboost while you were playing the tile is stupid, i'm glad they got rid of it.
@@wheremybike yeah getting punished because my random teammate sprinted face first into the lasers on the other side of the planet was not very epic
The problem with this is that when you get scanned by a drone and you're not in chase, you'd just hack the drone and remove that level with no penalty. There'd be no point. It would completely remove the trap playstyle (though this patch will do that already)
@@altarfsomniumfor sure, stacks should be permanent. Either that, or make a stack deplete after like 90 seconds of not being scanned
It seems like this update is trying to encourage a more chase oriented play style for killers and help counter the Gen regression meta. Zanshin Tactics is a crazy good re-work, and new Predator is also super strong seemingly
@@huntermattocks7200 Zanshin will be broken, just think about huntress at mind game pallets, I really hope that perk doesn’t go live, shit will be insanely busted, also just seems boring, oh he has Zanshin, I guess every low to mid tier pallet is unplayable, cool.
@@Jdesroyer yeah, it's like pretty rough in terms of counterplay. Idk how you even counter that against certain killers
@@huntermattocks7200 If it becomes meta I’ll be running object every single game.
Shame they nerfed Save the Best for Last and Ultimate that were the best perks for chase.
it also renders new distortion completely useless, which is SO funny
They could have kept the token system with distortion but only made it recharge during chase time. This would incentivize longer chases and wouldn’t have completely gutted the main counter that survivors had to the hundreds of aura perks/addons in the game.
I can't wait for Zubat's vid to be like 2 minutes long
More like a minute
"This is dogshit."
Zubat does patch vids?
He needs to pander to his brain rotted no attention span viewer base lol
5:10 Gotta disagree. Obviously grouping up and being found by the Killer is bad. And you also do gens at lowered efficiency when doing a gen together. HOWEVER, doing a gen together means that a ~30 second chase is now good enough to be on course for victory. If you have spread out Survivors doing gens, it will generally take them each 90 seconds to finish anything. This lets you get your chases, get your Pain Res's, get your Pops, etc. But if these gens are being tag teamed while you're in chase, suddenly these perks have nothing to regress. And in regards to Discordance, that perk is really good at preventing this from happening. Discordance is really good at making sure your gen regression perks see the light of day.
It could be better but it also could be a lot worse if the killer gets to chase 2 people instead of 1, plus you could be splitting that progress on 2 gens. There's very little situations where healing then running together is better than healing and running away from each other.
Doubled gens are not at double speed
Spread out
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 I didn't say they were. But you only lose about 6 seconds. That's still very much worth getting the gen done before it can be regressed.
You still have another person doing another gen and the last person being chased. Double teaming gens is the safety net.
But you know what, don't worry about it, lol. As a Killer player, I'm all for nobody tag teaming gens.
@@mckenzieschmitt2841agreed, no world where grouping up on gens is better
Scott doesn't think Discordance is good because he just focuses chase and doesn't really defend gens. That being said, Discordance is really good. I like to run it with Pop.
I feel like people are missing that DMS now no longer works with Pop at all when you used to be able to use them together. That's a pretty major regression/stall interaction that's gone.
Tbh with the gen kick limit they should just unnerf pop back to 60 seconds.
But it only blocks one gen and not necessarily the one with most progress...??
Double mangekyo sharingan?
Why doesnt it work with pop? Do you mean pain res?
with pop? you couldnt use it with pop because if they let go, you couldnt kick the gen. it still works with pain res the exact same but better, if thats what you mean. the purpose of this change was for the interaction with grim embrace, which is what you should have said
Combine the new Deathbound with Forced Penance. 😄 If a survivor heals someone they become Oblivious if they are more than 8 meters away from the person they healed. But if they stay within 8 meters of someone else then Forced Penance will trigger if you hit either of them (since Protection Hits trigger if survivors are within 10 meters of each other) and they'll become Broken for a fairly long time.
I liked skull merchant as the "stack buffs and then chase" killer. Idk, ive just always loved stacking buffs in games, so i wish they had removed the hinder and kept the speed boost instead of giving survivors something to feel bad about and the killer less to feel good about
honestly just delete skullmerchant at this point and give everyone shards to compensate.
Yeah tbh just delete her.
Always has been unhealthy for the game
@@damousx6860 Found the survivor main who DC's against skull merchant
@@Sweetness_01I understand liking playing her but no shot you actually think she’s a healthy addition to the game
@@sebastianwargny626 I think blight and nurse players are more unfun, people like you hate killers with items you have to interact with not to mention she was fine after the original nerf and could have been changed to be more fun rather than being eliminated entirely.
Bro aont no way💀 do you know how many skins i brought for her
What about those challenges were it says kill survivors with your own hand? That means you need the 4K with the new mori system. Unless you play killers that have a unique mori
devour, or those challenges will get changed to better fit the new mori system
Me when Scott calls one of my favorite niche perks shit. “Oh.”
Look, I’m not the biggest fan of the skull merchant, but her nerfs are down right cruel
Rip Skull Merchant
No tears were shed on this day
BHVR nerfing every possible way to prevent the killer from seeing your aura, adding and buffing a billion perks for killer to see auras, meanwhile distortion is still only one of two ways that you can even ever prevent aura reading.
We need an actual Undetectable effect for survs, and have pretty much every perk that blocks scratch marks temporarily, also give Undetectable to survs.
Distortion was only problematic because it countered aura perks always constantly the entire game. (They really shoulda done nothing to it but make it regain tokens in chase instead of in TR)
We need other ways to sometimes prevent aura reading though. Since they keep adding ways for the killer to just have continuous wall hacks(Weave and now Zanshin, which theres no way it goes live without a cooldown or something)
Basically, making an aura reading meta... while allowing us to have very little way to combat it. Not happy with this change.
weave gets changed soon so thats not much of an issue
@@jayyh_01 But the maps are becoming smaller too + it's not just Weave that killers run, there's multiple other aura reading perks. Distortion as it is now is just not going to get used. Some matches Tokens get ate like candy, then others you don't get use of distortion at all... then other times it gets used once or twice. The value of the Tokens is great, and imo never seemed overpowered, if anything they really should have just limited it to 2 tokens maximum. The changes across the maps, and changes to Distortion is going to not be a fun experience.
@@HessuTrades yes i know, but weave was my talking point, which gets changed soon. thats all my comment was
id still rather have aura reveal builds than 4 gen perks but I agree w/ the sentiment
Blood Rush automatically re-triggers Sprint Burst when used while sprinting, so the meme build would not work with Sprint Burst but it would with the gigachad Dead Hard into Balanced Landing.
It also does not stack with itself, you instead can only activate Blood Rush when you are no longer using an exhaustion perk, so you get double the duration.
We'll Make It is additive, so they heal at 150% speed with Leverage, however if Leverage is applied after We'll Make It and is multiplicative, then they heal at 100%.
Exhaustion perks are the exact opposites of gigachad in my eyes.
Is that true? I seem to remember Blood Rush was an activation perk. I admit, the way they worded the changes made it not clear how it would happen.
With Sprint Burst, I'd think it would let you sprint away from the hook, then for 60s or so you can Sprint Burst on demand.
@@Tory-JJok but double exhaustion with blood rush is pretty based, plus blood rush is on a timer after being unhooked so you have to actively be tunneling someone in order for it to activate
@@Tory-JJthey are indeed the antichad perks. Pebble however
@@Katana314 It is an activation perk but you can't activate it unless your exhaustion perk is no longer active.
I almost had a heart attack when I saw the unknown in the patch notes. If there was EVER a killer that doesn’t need to be touched it’s unknown
Skull Merchant now officially weaker than Freddy
Finisher moris sound a lot better than the instant 4 man slug moris
Regular mori requires 2 hooks per surv
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 I was talking about the hypothetical change they were working on 2 years ago where if all 4 survivors were slugged at once, they would all be instantly morid and the game would end. I know how current moris work, I have 4k hours on DBD.
@@Crota0100 wow you must be really good.
Anyways, that system was proposed to instantly Maury the last survivor alive when the game was over
The way you're describing it isn't the old system that they were proposing
Also between my two accounts since I got myself a new PC I have at least 6000 hours, but I feel like that really doesn't matter
You didn't slug everybody and get 4 moris
I literally have a running list of really basic shit and pointers for people because so many people don't know shit and this game so please forgive me if I thought you were maybe talking about devour or God knows what
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 Scott even references the same change, which is why I brought it up. Did you watch the whole video?
@@mckenzieschmitt2841Wrong look up PTB 6.3.0
I don’t know who said Sprint Burst “constantly checks” while sprinting, but they’re wrong. I’ve used Sprint Burst a ton and it’s actually possible with frame-perfect timing (usually by accident while trying to 99 exhaustion) to start running just as you lose exhaustion and not trigger Sprint Burst. You can keep running and it will not trigger until you let go of the run button or stop moving, then run again.
now that distortion is changed, its finally time for me to fully switch over to shadowstep CoH ;D
Bruh what was the purpose of the skull merchant change? She wasn’t even good it’s like they just nerfed her to convince survivors not to dc against her.
seriously, she was fine after the rework but people are still terrified of her. I dont know how they can possibly make her worse after this so her alleged rework better be great
@@swirlyderp7288 like I could maybe understand the nerf of the speed boost but like the slowdown change was a little crazy…that’s her whole power basically…and then the 1 scan line is just a slap in the face
@@gottmilk_ the speed/hinder thing is pretty wild too because Clown literally does that too, but the 1 can line was just a straight bullet to the killer
I don’t get where this whole “Every single person who uses Distortion is a Rat” mentality people suddenly have came from. I rarely see anyone even use Distortion anyway, and the few people I do find aren’t even hiding the entire time. I’ve literally been using Distortion since Jeff came out, it’s been a mainstay in most of my builds, yet I’m usually one of the more altruistic survivors in my games. Like is it that hard to believe some people just don’t want to get seen while they are on a gen or while going for a save if the killer runs one of their 700 aura perks or an aura addon (Which literally every killer has one of)?
Also, everyone completely overestimates how easily you can save your tokens. Most aura perks and addons trigger VERY often, meaning losing 2 (or 3) tokens at the same time isn’t a rare occurrence. Then with the recharging, half the killers straight up make it basically impossible to recharge tokens because their power makes them undetectable, and there’s also a dozen perks that either reduce your Terror Radius, or make you undetectable. Do people just forget about that? Not to mention Killer Instinct exists. Point is, people got this “Distortion user = coward who hides” thing out of nowhere, and people think it’s OP for literally no reason. Also, maybe just don’t rely on wall hacks to win as Killer if Distortion really bothers you that much. Such a shame a decent perk got gutted for no reason.
Technician, urban evasion, distortion, calm spirit, left behind (aka I'm killing everyone to hide instead of looking for hatch)
It's the same noobs every match who haven't taken a chase but everyone else is on death hook. Two ppl die. The rat is clueless those two deaths are bc THEY wouldn't take a chase/down
Not every Distortion user is a rat. Every rat is a Distortion user.
@@ToveriJuri solo q ones are. Ooops I haven't been seen ALL match
I wish there was more actual discussion about Skull Merchant besides just "F this killer". As a new player to this game i genuinely dont know what the issues people have with her are and ive never even got a chance to her to see for myself. Hell, the pure distane against this killer made me get her before a lot of other killers just to see what all the fuss is...and i still dont really get it honestly.
I might sound crazy, but if merchant had a bit more limitations to her power (maybe something like if skull merchany is in a drones radius it cant apply lockon unless they're already clawtrapped or something) then she could have the potential to be a very fun killer to face....at least more potential than the killer that can go through walls.
There's a hens video from a while back before her mild rework that showcased the problems she brought to the game. There's no stakes in skull merchant gameplay, and there was almost literally no hope of beating a skull merchant as a solo queue survivor and barely any hope in a swf. Prior to this upcoming set of nerfs she just got numerous rewards for simply pressing m2 with no consideration for the consequences. Heavy hinder to the survivor, haste, forces the survivor to leave the loop, provides information, injures for free, applies broken for free. A toddler could play SM and win, she's just boring to play as and against
Survivors prefer a sweaty 3 minute nurse match to anything that would affect their precious generators
@@NewSirenSong Couldn't the devs just get rid of some of those effects then? Get rid of the broken and haste. It was fun to move quickly but probably unnecessary.
Also, why are you forced to leave a loop? I've watched a couple of videos about her ability and they say that the drone's radius can be avoided by either crouching, standing still, or blocking LOS...those things should take to much time to do should they...
Don't mean to sound rude or anything just genuinely curious.
Im not sure how people feel about her power, but i was thinking they could make her into a full stealth tracking character instead of a damaging drone or hindered broken effects
Because by automatically hating on her without any helpful feedback you're considered Cool by the DbD community.
Distortion saved my ass so many times, this is so upsetting to see. When killers run multiple aura reading perks you're basically f**ked.
When killer run multiple aura perks they cannot run as much slowdown. I would say it’s a win win, however I never was a distortion user so it’s probably not on me to judge these changes
Yeah I'll take aura reading builds over slowdown builds any day, abandoning stealth plays is more fun than spending 15 minutes holding m1
yun-jin mains celebrating their new quick gambit + self preservation combo
We are going to see Genetic Limits on every killer that has a strong chase power. Blight, Nurse, Chucky, Spirit, Maybe even Huntress.
Yea genetic limits + mindbreaker will make effective use of any exhaustion very challenging
Wont be used on Hunty, she already has an addon for hatchets giving exhaustion.
fixed that bug that cause scott to wake up
Fixed a bug that would delay the responses of a "buddy"
That’s mean
I dont get this joke, just seems mean.
@@Tory-JJi thought it was a reference to Scott’s April Fools patch notes video that ends with the patch notes telling Scott to wake up, revealing that everything was fake and just a dream…
I don't like the distort nerf, why are killers allowed to aura you up the ass but you cant use one of the ONLY FOUR perk slots to counter auras? Addon auras, auras after hook, auras when they kick gens, auras when you walk past a totem, more and more. Why couldn't they have just middle grounded the nerf and made it 3 tokens but you only got tokens from actively being in chase? Meaning you would need to get chased for a reasonable time to get use of it? Why did they insist on killing stealth in dbd?
But perhaps its a worthy sacrifice for probably the most broken killer basekit of all time, SM. Would literally rather do three blink nurse in 2016 man.
Have no idea how a killer that slows you like crazy, speeds up like crazy, injures you if you dare to step in an AOE half the maps size and blocks you from healing, gives killer free radar, and gives killer crazy insidious power ever got greenlit but it happened and I am very happy to see the downfall.
Yeah they did distortion dirty.
Let’s nerf it to the ground while buffing even more aura reading like what
You are actually insane to think 2016 nurse is more fun to play against than the current skull merchant’s basekit. Skull merchant wasn’t even broken, despite all the bs she had. She was just a glorified m1 killer with a bunch of different effects to make her stronger in chase. Even then she was never a top tier killer with this kit.
She doesn’t have map mobility and if you disable her drones then she becomes useless. You can literally just hold w to waste soo much of her time if you really have that much trouble countering her drones. The reason skull merchant got nerfed is because of people refusing to learn her counterplay giving sm a 70% kill rate because of ragequitters.
Distortion deserved to be changed because of how boring the perk is to verse. You literally get rewarded for hiding from the killer which caused your teammates to get targeted/ tunnled more often by the killer. The only people that like distortion are the people that play survivor to NOT get chased. Absolutely bougous.
The biggest issue with Distortion is for whole-team aura perks like BBQ/Floods, it was "Go after these three instead". Plus, many aura perks were off-meta when compared to slowdown perks that have always been an issue. When someone puts on the clown paint and runs something silly like Alien Instinct, I'm All Ears, etc, it sucks that they get punished so heavily for it - *especially* for perks that only activate for a single survivor at a time.
@@Katana314 distortion literally punished killers for running aura reading perks, which just incentivizes more killers to run gen slowdown. Aura reading is not broken, aura reading is only as strong as the person utilizing it. The same argument is said for the survivor perk windows of opportunity. Hence why I dislike people defending distortions rat playstyle. How about instead get better in chases so that it doesn’t matter if the killer sees your aura.
Auras when you start the match
Auras when the killer opens a locker & you're near a locker
Auras when the killer opens a locker and you then also scream
Auras when you're near a totem
Auras when you cleanse a totem
Auras when you're near a chest
Auras when you hit a good skill check
Auras when a gen is kicked
Auras when you pop a gen
Auras when you're on a gen and someone gets downed
Auras when someone is being carried
Auras when you're near a hook
Auras when someone gets hooked
Auras when someone gets hooked x2
Auras when the obsession gets hooked
Auras when someone gets unhooked
Auras when you escape a chase
Auras when you try to blind
Auras when the killer is stunned
Auras when you get injured
Auras when you heal
Auras when the killer holds M2 & "stalks"
Auras when the killer's invisible near you
Auras when any of the killers use their ability (Someone without an addon!)
Auras when you puke every 20 seconds
Auras when a pallet is broken
Auras when a wall is broken
Auras when you vault
Auras when you're near a dropped pallet
Auras when you scream
Auras when you enter the basement
Auras when you're at the exit gate
Auras when a bottle is thrown near you
Auras when you're hit by a ranged attack
Auras if you bring Mettle of Man
"Off-brand Auras" that are called "Killer Instinct".
Auras auras auras auras auras.
So many more I probably forgot about.
Yep. Killer mains are definitely right. Distortion is OP it honestly should just permanently show all survivors aura instead.
I think killers should have 5 aura reading perks and still room for slowdown perks. Especially killers that have insta-down abilities & addons.
Not enough ways for killers to see auras btw when's the next aura perk coming out?
Sprint Burst activates when you start running. You can perfectly "99" exhaustion (exhaustion fully expires and the icon dissappears from the hud) without activating sprint burst. At any point you need only to release and re-grab sprint to get your sprint burst to activate
"I wanna try that with Zubat one day". THAT'S WHAT HE SAID!
I'm definitely going to toy around with Bond - Empathic Connection - Teamwork Perks
The Bloodrush change possibilities are varied.
You could potentially do:
Two Head Ons in a row.
Two Dramaturgys in a row.
Break exhaustion to force Iron Will to activate.
Use exhaustion perk combos, like Deadhard and Adrenaline so that after you use dead hard to delay the killer just enough for your team to finish generators, you can pre-emptively activate Blood rush to allow yourself a free heal on top of that cheeky hit.
If you’re deep wounded adrenaline will only remove deep wound unfortunately
Dramaturgy wouldn't work if the killer goes straight back to hook since you have to be healthy for it to activate.
adrenaline ignores exhaustion anyway?
Blood rush wont activate when the gens are done
Guys, just run Object of Obsession
Infinite stacks, shows when you are seen, shows the killer back to you, so you can run the other direction
20:20 you cant double dead hard, since you only get one DH upon being unhooked.
oh woops, duh
@@ScottJundyou could still use dh and use BL or Lithe, niche but the scenarios this will happen will be pretty fun
I know my opinions now, thanks Scott!
Hey Scott! I'm subbed on twitch, but I kinda hate the app, so I loved the yt lives. Will those come back? Regardless, thnx for the content for over a decade ❤
yeah of course i just usually dont upload and stream on youtube at the same time because then both videos get half the views for whatever reason
@@ScottJund learn something new every day, sounds tough to make content lol Thanks for the response and the long video, cheers!
The skull merchant nerfs are just trying to descentivize people from playing her until they can mess her up worse next year
as a user of distorition i know rhere is some people who do play like rats i agree i just use it because randomly having the killer know where i am without my knowledge is wack af to me
Too I play pyramid head. I'm so happy about zhanshin tactics. I can't wait to play with this combo!
Survivors got a bunch of buffs, some of which very obviously meta defining!
"What did killer get?"
"Uhhh... You get a free Mori every game now! ...provided you catch the last survivor instead of letting them escape! ... And can no longer get Moris without perks or add-ons... But free mori"
Survivors also got one of their best perks gutted and there's even more aura reading, both sides have things to be happy and unhappy about right now
@@salvadorelastname9095 Aura doesn't help when you get genrushed since slowdown is at the weakest it's been in years. Pop nerfed to a pathetic state and depends on the killer's mobility (so it only helps a few killers that can quickly get to the most progressed gen), pain res nerfed and RNG dependent, dead man's switch nerfed, call of brine useless, ruin useless.
@@salvadorelastname9095 No way you think Distortion is the best surv perk!
If Predator was changed to what you suggested, someone that's getting tunneled would never be able to get away. Bad idea.
They should add Hoarah Louh: Chieftain of the Badlands to this game
Skin for nemesis, turns the zombies into wandering nobles
I can't wait to play Blood Pact + Power of Two with my friend. Good addition to our Head On build
i think they should have kept the tokens on distortion but with this new chase requirement as a replacement to building them by being in the terror radius. 1 token is nothing when killers have 1000 ways to read your aura *without you knowing*. You're not even going to have that 1 distortion stack midchase most of the time. They should also be adding tracking perks that dont rely on aura reading to counter things like distortion instead of directly nerfing it.
While I definitely agree, i love distortion, not as a rat, but as a teammate I can communicate to my friends what the aura reads are so they know when they're seen and how to avoid it if possible. This feels like overkill, make it recharge from gen progress so that they have to progress to game to retain their stealth benefits and information gathering. And alternative tracking is definitely an option, the new thwack is a great example, but we can't have old ultimate weapon back that forced a bad perk like calm spirit into meta because it was that overtuned. On demand tracking is an issue, there should be a tangible cost relative to the strength of the ability
@@NewSirenSong Same! I always engage with the killer when necessary and I find distortion is good for not getting caught off guard (which, with the insane amount of aura reading in this game, happens often). another helpful change i think would be survivors getting an audio alert when their aura is being read as a *basekit* feature -- i think the 2v8 mode did this unless i was misinterpreting the sound effect.
Duo's with corrective and hyper focus is going to be fun. Just miss all skill checks and get that stack up fast
Don't forget to add Fogwise so you'll see the killer the entire time too!
I absolutely despise these mori reworks. I adored being able to mori everyone. It wasn't broken. It wasn't overpowered. It was just a cool thing you can go for, a mori for each person. I don't know why they insist on keep messing with the system now that it's just for flashiness.
Promotes/enhances tunneling
@@ChaosTheStrange It never did. All it did was make it so you didn't have to pick up someone and put them on the hook the last time. But the primary appeal was the cool animation.
Speaking of, say goodbye to the days of photobombing Ghostface kills.
@@YingShanLT It absolutely did. Making it so it only worked on death hook encouraged a very large amount of killers who used it to tunnel one person out so they could get the mori. As for the enhancement, it ignores Decisive Strike's anti-tunnel if they didn't have the chance to use it the first time. Yeah it's cool but it doesn't really matter because no matter what way you slice it, if someone has a mori, they're more likely to try and tunnel, be it to their benefit or their detriment, trying to get the mori animation.
@@ChaosTheStrange In all the games I had against killers, I never once encountered a killer using a mori to tunnel anyone out. Literally ever. Not that it would matter too much anyways, since they would be tunneling that person out anyways. What is the likelihood of that not only happening, but also happening to someone with DS and who also didn't get to use it their first time?
You think entirely too poor of killers.
@@YingShanLT I play both sides pretty equally for one, I'm not an idiot. By it's core design, having something that skips the hooking/pickup process entirely on the last hook AND has an exclusive animation that people will want to see in of itself would drive an enhanced number of killers to tunnel than they would otherwise, it's not only a statistical impossibility for it not to, but I've seen it plenty of times. There's no way to prove or disprove that a killer would still be tunneling without the mori in play, but it is undeniable that it does and will happen more. Also, people get mori'd through their ds alot more than you'd probably think, it's just that not as many people use moris to begin with unless they're newer because they're more busy burning bloodpoints or sacrifical ward, which they'll still be able to do next update AND get the mori animation. If you really want to mori everyone that badly, just run Devour Hope and gamble.
A new killer chase combo to try could be the new Genetic Limits, Rapid Brutality, and Save the Best for Last. Basically when you hit a healthy survivor with a basic attack, you recover from the hit more quickly, get a movement speed boost to catch up as well, and meanwhile the survivor is immediately Exhausted for probably the whole follow-up chase that ensues. (You can also throw in the new Predator perk to make it even more difficult for a survivor you just hit to be able to get away.)
is finishing mori to disincentivize giving hatch?
either way i dont like the mori offerring change
it's to speed up the end of the match so someone doesn't have to carry over to hook or hatch to end the game if its the last person
It's heartbreaking to me
Leverage + Gift of pain...
oh god is it another prank
If only. Its real
I love the Skull Merchant nerf. It shows perfectly how BHVR works internally. They just nerf stuff based on how much survivors cry about it without actually thinking about what they're doing.
I mean I kinda agree but she is getting reworked so this is all temporary, it’s just that fat and gay people don’t complain about her on reddit
Why it take you so long? Onryo rework/nerfs were a couple years ago.
@@derrian6969 Yeah and I commented on that back then too. What's your point?
@@marcusbourchier2245 Your comment now means nothing if you knew how BHVR worked since then. Whats your point?
@@derrian6969 So if someone knows how something works and points it out for others to read he shouldn't have pointed it out in the first place because he already knew it? What are you even talking about?
Are people really this threatened by Distortion and Skull Merchant
The community has proven that if you whine and cry about something enough instead of actually putting in the effort to counter it, you'll eventually get what you want.
Well a big thing with Skull merchant is if you couldnt block the 3gen set up you were basically fucked, and she was REALLY good at getting that lockdown. like dont get me a wrong a 3 gen is bad but with a lot of other killers you can break it. but between her speed and hinder and everything it was basically impossible to break (I say impossible, anything is possible, but more so you had almost no chance as a solo, and a tiny chance as a swf.) i guess my only thing with was i dont see SM getting picked? like idk i feel like i dont really see that many games with her but then again im also a relatively low mmr (i play casually, but i keep very up to date on buffs/nerfs and such). like a lot of people wouldnt pick her cause ppl would just dc or the gameplay was boring. BUT if theres rats for Survivors theres rats for killers and that was basically the type of community that rallied around her (NOT EVERYONE but those people were very loud and obnoxious).
The issue with distortion is if people ran it and played the game normally it would have been fine, still a bit strong but not busted. but the perk is golden among rat survs that only want to enter the game, do nothing, and leave (honestly feel like i see this more than SM but tbf theres 4 surv 1 killer statisically youll just see the surv rats more). it made it easier to be a rat, nerfing wont stop rats but it no longer is super easy to do, hopefully meaning there will be LESS rat play. because another thing that would happen is people would maybe play at first then after one hook become a rat in the game. it makes it harder for survs to just be salty and hide. its also a lot harder to get someone banned for rat behavior cause you gotta prove they are genuinely doing nothing and not just 'being scared' and hiding. so nerfing a perk rats value is a lot easier to do than trying to figure out who actually is a rat and who isnt.
I think its funny that zanshin tactics is just a killer version of trouble shooter now. They both reveal aura when survior drops a pallet
Me and Feng stopping chase to have a staring contest through the wall
Unless I'm mistaken. Trouble Shooter only works after dropping a pallet while Zanshin procs whenever the survivor gets near a dropped pallet. Basically killers can mind game instead of kick pallet go next loop. Shadowbuff to Any Means Necessary.
I wish I could just play Skull Merchant and no one give me shit. The fact that people go next all the time, inflating her kill rate, is what did this. And for what? Not wanting to learn how to play against one of the weakest killers in the game? Should Hag be deleted cuz playing against her is so different? Idk. Why make her unplayable rather than tuning her kit to be more fun for both sides? They just gave up and that shit sucks.
@@julietheghost9607 they gave her the trickster treatment bro I'm sorry to hear ur fav killer is dead due to people having skill issues 🙏
The fact that Scott himself says he doesn't care WHILE admitting it's a badly designed nerf should tell you what you need to know . This community is rancid from top to bottom , except from a few individuals . Just because you play a certain killer , people will legit tell you to switch mains or , better yet , to off yourself instead of saying " Hey those nerfs are dumb , do not put them in without compensation " even when they don't like the killer . A game's community should strive for the good of the game in its entirety while also being constructive about it . The DBD shows that if a character is unpopular , you will get treated differently jsut because . In short, fuck this game and fuck this community . Play for yourselves and ignore dipshits that will try to grandstand you because you play a character .
Look, even if you do learn the counterplay, it isn't interesting and doesn't feel interactive at all. Disarming the drones feels pointless when they reactivate after a while on their own anyway and SM can recall them from across the map. They're also impossible to deal with during a chase because the drones each cover such a large zone and the QTE required to disarm the drone can't reasonably be done with SM hitting you first. So nothing can be done about the power during chase unless a teammate intervenes, which they won't. And while the same can be said about Trapper's traps and they're technically more lethal, they're also much easier to avoid and don't reset themselves automatically without an Iri add-on. SM mains keep saying "just disable the drones, it's not that hard", but genuinely, disarming drones feels pointless a big chunk of the time. If Trapper's traps don't reset themselves base kit, Merchant's drones shouldn't either.
A lot of people think that disarming a drone should remove a stack of lock-on, while SM's defenders say that wouldn't make sense when Ghostface doesn't have anything for a similar mechanic. But the difference here is that if Ghostface can't down you before his mark runs out, he once again needs to hit you twice or mark you again to get a down. With Skull Merchant, when the clawtrap gets removed you're still injured. Running out the clawtrap time does nothing for you if you're still getting chased by the Merchant. And with how unavoidable the scanning beams are mid-chase (because if you crouch or stand still to avoid them Merchant will obviously just be able to M1 you anyway), now you're injured, and are probably still going to get a lock on stack running while running away. Not to mention that Ghostface doesn't have obnoxious haste and hinder stacking, that feels entirely unearned because survivors outside of the chase can activate the haste. The haste never should have been added to her power in the first place, and it's about time it got removed.
Skull Merchant's power is a catch 22, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Her original power was obviously like that, but it's still like that now. Clawtraps are a bad mechanic. Skull Merchant's counterplay feels futile, and gameplay against her feels so uninteractive and like a chore. She has the most braindead playstyle in the game, and that's corroborated by how many people say they like Skull Merchant because she's so much less stressful to play than the others. Yeah, maybe that's because it requires absolutely no effort or skill to get value out of the power? So if you play a decent M1 chaser, you're just going to win most of your matches without difficulty.
Also, BHVR's doing another full rework on Merchant next year. They're just nerfing her now so that the rest of us don't have to put up with this boring miserable killer anymore until then, because even BHVR can't stand behind what they've created here anymore. I'm sorry, but if you've put your eggs in the Skull Merchant basket, you have only yourself to blame. I mean what did you THINK was going to happen? No, the last rework didn't fix her. People aren't still just upset about old Skull Merchant. News flash; current Skull Merchant isn't fun either. She's not well designed, she's boring and tedious, and almost as problematic as old merchant just for completely different reasons.
skull merchant main spotted!!!
Okay, let's say what you said is all true and there's no argument. Then it's a similar situation to knight, really unfun gameplay loop sure. But they didn't just completely gut knight's power when they reworked him, they gave him SOME compensation. This update is a horribly made band-aid fix for people who don't like playing against a killer with a 2% pick rate. And don't act like players won't still go next against nerfed merchant, so our games will still have that problem as well. Idc if you don't like the killer or her design or her counterplay, there is 0 reason to absolutely gut this killer except to make the people who play her so miserable she doesn't get played.
The best thing about skull merchant getting bodied is Pixel Bush having a fucking meltdown on Twitter. Play literally anything else, you joke.
The second best thing is Skull Merchant getting nerfed.
Why are you happy with Skull Merchant getting nerfed when she was already C tier before the nerfs? What, you enjoy seeing nurse more? Your people are incomprehensible.
@@cinatiropel "X killer got nerfed, do you want more nurses??"
Yeah, honestly. At least Nurse actually takes a braincell to play properly.
@@DaftPanda1bro why is your unskilled ass so worried about being bodied by a C tier killer, just dont be an idiot and don’t get scanned lmao I run skull merchants for ages
@@DaftPanda1 Skull Merchant requires no less braincells than Trapper yet people only want buffs for him..
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"Snatch that weave." Not Scott getting Zesty! 💅💅
The new Blood Rush could have some fun survivor builds with it. For instance, if you
- Blood Rush (recover from Exhaustion using the ability button after an unhook)
- Overcome (the after an injury movement speed lasts an extra 2 seconds. This does work if you are hit immediately after an unhook as well)
- Iron Will (you make no injury noises while not Exhausted)
- Lucky Break (you leave no scratch marks or blood pools after being injured)
So if the killer tries to go after you right after you are unhooked and hits you, you get to run a 6.6 m/s for 3.8 seconds because of Overcome and (as long as your timer is still up) have no scratch marks or blood trail because of Lucky Break. And while you're running you can immediately lose the Exhaustion using Blood Rush which turns Iron Will on so you also make practically no noise as well. That's a LOT of distance you can cover to get to a potential hiding spot to mend and then get healed by someone else (or heal yourself with a medkit if you have one).
Also a goofy build that you could try would be Blood Rush and Dramaturgy. After an unhook, you get healed by someone else (don't heal yourself or you lose Blood Rush). Then once you're healthy you can use Dramaturgy twice in a row with Blood Rush, potentially getting two rare items in the process. 😄
overcome doesnt work when your injured so this wouldn't work, also just bring bite the bullet it does the same thing as this entire build for 1 perk slot instead of 4. dramaturgy doesn't do the same effect 2 times in a row so you cant use it to get 2 items.
@@kogzy4010 Bite the Bullet does not “do the same thing as the entire build”, that perk only silences you while you are healing. Iron Will works all the time as long as you aren’t exhausted, even running. Bite the Bullet also has none of the other effects in the build.
You’re right about Overcome not triggering if you’re already injured. It would, though, work if you are healed by someone after being unhooked
As far as Dramaturgy, I missed that it doesn’t do effects twice in a row. Still, it’s two chances in a row to get a rare item. 🤷♂️
Missed the chance to talk about Dramaturgy and Bloodrush
Dramarurgy is basically a pocket sprint burst, so you can be MUCH more smart with Dramaturgy over sprint burst, granting you 2 intentionally timed bursts of speed during a tunnel
Imagine running Poise and just tapping the Gen in shack while the killer chases for the aura reading lmao.
Empathy actually has a range limit now. It is still huge, 128m to be exact. Covers pretty much all maps, but it does have some niche situations of not providing global coverage, and this was done to reduce to the performance impact from the perk's original range limit being 100 km. I think they should bump it up a little bit to cover the niche situations, but it's whatever.
14:41 everyone forgets about my dear ringu being stealthy😢
They really made Poised go hand in hand with Eyes of Belmont
About the "Sprint Burst", I'm pretty sure you have to stop and start sprinting again, cuz I was able to have no exhaustion whatsoever and was still running without using Sprint Burst. (And the moment I stopped, It activated once I started sprinting again)
Skull Merchants kill rate will be from 70% to.... oh...its still 70%
48:21 "50 seconds is so long imagine you got this and pop"
Man, Pop is only usable for 45 seconds after a hook happens, MAN I CANNOT STAND PEOPLE LMFAO!
I gotta stop commenting on this video though. Just so much to talk about...
Distortion nerf is really bad. Not even a nerf, it’s a gut.
The token system should have remained, however there should be collaborative action in order for the tokens to be regained, furthermore the token count should start at 0 and have a max of 1 or 2 tokens. Complete a gen, take a survivor off hook, body block, take a chase or something with element of risk. It would still prevent rat behaviour whilst ensuring the perk has longevity.
I absolutely love when they buff the obscure and otherwise useless perks. It always makes for some fun combos and changes up survivor play from the usual 6-8 perks that are *actually* usable.
DMS is still gonna be crazy on the artist, all you gotta do is remember which gen had the most progress and now youve got 50 seconds of gen block
On Skull Merchant:
Idiot BHVR Dev: "So I looked at the charts and noticed an M1 Killer who ISN'T Nurse or Blight racking up a lot of kills and it's Skull Merchant, our premier trapper-chaser replacement! She's too stronk, so let's remove her speed advantage to compensate for her ability to track things!"
Sane Behavior Dev: "Uh, won't that just make her into a bad clone of Trapper? Specifically, the most cancerous version of Trapper nobody likes playing against?"
Idiot Dev: "Of course not! Skull Merchant has DRONES! She can track people!!"
Sane Dev: "But if we take away her speed advantage in chase, which is the only thing she has IN chase mind, why should she even bother chasing instead of just forcing a down and camping basement with her drones?"
Idiot Dev: "Because shut up. Now get me my sammich baggie of drain cleaner. I'mma do a line to get even more inspiration!"
Skull Merchant? Welcome to Trapper and Clown Tier, circa 2020. Enjoy your stay in Hell.
11:00 YES you can. definitely can. im a main healer build user, i use - desperate measures, botanic, Empathic Connection, we ll make it, + medkit with seringe with purple 15% speed. - using the medkit ("well make it"activated of course) will let you heal a downed survivor but very narrowly you may get downed, making sure you start healling as soon as possible. now, without "Empathic Connection" but with "we are gonna live forever" you definitely can heal as soon the player is downed and have much time to escape. however as of that update, i will remove desperate measures (instead of emphatic connection) to use WAGLF and have the most efficient heal build, downside is unhooking speed without the desperate measures but i wonder how useful it is actually.
you can see when another person has corrective action so you could fail on prepose to get the bonus effects of it and im pretty sure it works on yourself post update
I just realized they didn't rework Blood Pact, so Power of Two is just straight up better now... They should remove the range requirement for Blood Pact, and make it deactivate when injured.