This is an awesome idea. How soon after rolling the piece in the foam/ glaze, do you wash it off? Couldn't you fire it AS IS: as the foam would just burn if in the kiln?
@@kevinjamiesonbelou so what glaze you use? Botz or others, names please and I am interested in time too, it’s strange that glass stacks on cap so good and not falling with water….🤔 looks like you made a second firing on kiln;)
The piece is only bisque fired, so it is still very porous. The underglaze is like a dye suspended in water that is sitting on top of the foam. Wherever the piece touches glaze, there will be an instant connection and soaking in that draws the color into the clay body. It would be very difficult to get back out, if you wanted to. It could smear if you wiped it clean, but rinsing the foam off with running water allows the underglaze to stay in place almost completely.
Thank you for this video. Tried it and it is so much fun! The only problem - clear glaze did not stick to the piece after shaving foam. How do you glaze it? Thank you for your response in advance. ❤️
I don't think that will work, the underglaze has to dry before washing off the shaving foam. I don't think this will happen when the clay is still wet😅
So cool! Do you recommend a specific brand/type of glaze? I thought Duncan covercoat was the one to use, but now that it's discontinued I'm wondering if another type would work.
I just tried this with porcelain, and the water washed the underglaze away. I rinsed, dried and tried again later that night. Scraped the shaving cream with my hand this time. It came out VERY light. But I love it.
What IF you used a tray of white underglaze instead of shaving cream??? Then you wouldn't have to wash off anything.. same beautiful effect... maybe even more interesting texture....... :)
I tried this the other day. It worked really well until I applied a clear glaze over the top. The area where the shaving foam had been resisted the clear glaze. Created a bit of a messy finish. Have wiped off the clear glaze and may have to leave the outside of the piece unglazed
I fire twice - first fire the underglazed piece (can go with bisque or 04), then add clear glaze and fire again. Adds time and effort, but this way the underglaze (and shaving foam) isn't competing with the clear glaze.
So first you use a bisque piece which is baked at 1000°C and after you used the technique with the foam you wash it off and you use the glaze fire at 1220°C? I need to be sure because I study to be a art teacher and I love to work with ceramic and I would like to give it a try but I am not really good in ceramics yet!!
Yes that's right! But I do my bisque at 1020°C, but 1000°C is good as well. After doing the shaving foam technique I also apply 2 coats of clear glaze, this makes the pieces foodsafe and makes it shiny😊
@@caldervanandelI wish your video had been longer and more detailed because showing the piece after firing is important for us to see in my opinion.. it’s very nice art but I don’t know if it is worth using that much glaze for one little cup…how many can you do using the amount of foam and glaze that you used? Thanks in advance for your response 👍
We tried this technique with Duncan Concepts - so far every project has fired out with many "glaze pulls" Have had the ladies re-clear glaze & fire to fix the problem. Any idea why this happened?
the shaving foam likely has moisturizing ingredients that are acting as a resist on the bisqueware. It's like putting on lotion then handling bisqueware (glaze will crawl from the areas your hands touched. Dust does the same. This would be a better technique for people who glaze fire raw OR if you re-bisque. Hell, even doing this on greenware would be better than bisque
Well, I’m going to buck the trend of uniformly positive comments: This seems to me like a lot of material and effort for a single little cup. It wouldn’t even work if you had a handle.
Hello, Thanks a lot for sharing. Sorry but I'm not sure that the washing the piece you can save the colours. To my opinion, it's not possible. You can not get the beautifull effects you show.
This is an awesome idea. How soon after rolling the piece in the foam/ glaze, do you wash it off? Couldn't you fire it AS IS: as the foam would just burn if in the kiln?
I don’t think you’d want to burn that off in your kiln.
@@kevinjamiesonbelou so what glaze you use? Botz or others, names please and I am interested in time too, it’s strange that glass stacks on cap so good and not falling with water….🤔 looks like you made a second firing on kiln;)
Great idea! Thank You. All the best for your channel.
thanks for sharing this technique. this is so cool and inspiring me!
I wanted to ask how long you wait for it to dry before you rinse it?
About 1 minute😊
How does the glaze not wash off in the water?
The piece is only bisque fired, so it is still very porous. The underglaze is like a dye suspended in water that is sitting on top of the foam. Wherever the piece touches glaze, there will be an instant connection and soaking in that draws the color into the clay body. It would be very difficult to get back out, if you wanted to. It could smear if you wiped it clean, but rinsing the foam off with running water allows the underglaze to stay in place almost completely.
Thank you for this video. Tried it and it is so much fun! The only problem - clear glaze did not stick to the piece after shaving foam. How do you glaze it? Thank you for your response in advance. ❤️
I have no problem with this myself, I think your shaving foam might be too greasy, so it does not stick.
Tedious but you could just refire it to cone 010 - 08 and then clear glaze it.
That's amazing 😮 I'm so going to try doing that. Do you water the underglaze down a little bit first as it seemed to be pouring out quite well?
Loving this technique, I will be trying it at some point. Any idea if it would work on greenware? Not bone-dry, but at the stiff leather point.
I don't think that will work, the underglaze has to dry before washing off the shaving foam. I don't think this will happen when the clay is still wet😅
So cool! Do you recommend a specific brand/type of glaze? I thought Duncan covercoat was the one to use, but now that it's discontinued I'm wondering if another type would work.
You can do it with any underglaze you want! I like to use Velvet underglazes from Amaco :)
So the shaving cream rinses away, but the underglaze does not?
Yes! The pot absorbs the glaze
I just tried this with porcelain, and the water washed the underglaze away. I rinsed, dried and tried again later that night. Scraped the shaving cream with my hand this time. It came out VERY light. But I love it.
If you did hearts, with the underglaze, and then rolled your pottery, you'd have hearts, right? Maybe??
Ooooh WoW!!! That’s super cool 💕💕💕
Wouldn't the glaze wash off with the foam??
After doing the marble glaze with shave cream do you fire again?
Yes!
Thanks I'm gonna try ASAP!
That’s incredible.!
Very Nice art and work. thanks
Thank you!!
Great video! If you want to do multiple pieces at the same time, can you use the same foam? Thank you and keep the wonderful videos coming.
Thankyou! And yes you can use the same foam!
What IF you used a tray of white underglaze instead of shaving cream??? Then you wouldn't have to wash off anything.. same beautiful effect... maybe even more interesting texture....... :)
Then the white glaze would be on top and cover everything
Wow nice
What does it mean when you have rough spots doing the marbling shaving cream.
Can you fire them in the standard oven ? If have no kiln?
I tried this the other day. It worked really well until I applied a clear glaze over the top. The area where the shaving foam had been resisted the clear glaze. Created a bit of a messy finish. Have wiped off the clear glaze and may have to leave the outside of the piece unglazed
Nuke Nubreed try firing your piece after marbling, and then do a coat of clear glaze and fire again :)
I fire twice - first fire the underglazed piece (can go with bisque or 04), then add clear glaze and fire again. Adds time and effort, but this way the underglaze (and shaving foam) isn't competing with the clear glaze.
Excelente!!! Felicitaciones y saludos desde Argentina 🙋
Curious to know what it would look like if you didn't rinse the shaving soap off before firing in the kiln.
Wow wow wow wow!
Ooooo awesome technique!!!
Great! Thank you for sharing!
What was the temperature you use for that piece ?
The bisque 1000°C and the glaze fire 1220°C!
Do you recommend the use of a bisqued piece or can I do this before.bisquing?
I always use a bisqued piece!
Omg must try!!!!
So first you use a bisque piece which is baked at 1000°C and after you used the technique with the foam you wash it off and you use the glaze fire at 1220°C? I need to be sure because I study to be a art teacher and I love to work with ceramic and I would like to give it a try but I am not really good in ceramics yet!!
Yes that's right! But I do my bisque at 1020°C, but 1000°C is good as well. After doing the shaving foam technique I also apply 2 coats of clear glaze, this makes the pieces foodsafe and makes it shiny😊
@@caldervanandelI wish your video had been longer and more detailed because showing the piece after firing is important for us to see in my opinion.. it’s very nice art but I don’t know if it is worth using that much glaze for one little cup…how many can you do using the amount of foam and glaze that you used? Thanks in advance for your response 👍
Do you bisque fire it again or can you just apply clear glaze over it and it will be fine?
He bisque fired again
Hi I tried but it didn’t work.which brand of shave foam did you use?
Beautiful!!!
Thanks!😊
Have you ever tried this technique on a stamped piece? We’re you happy with the results?
Can this technique be used on terracotta pots?
If you are not planning on firing the pot, you could do marbling, using oil based paints floating on water and then dipping or rolling the piece
I don't understand how the underglaze doesn't wash off when it's rinsed
I rinse very carefully😊
Can you put clear glaze over this technique? I did some cups and plant pots but worried the clear glaze might get messed up firing it
my pottery teacher has told my class it's fine to put clear glaze over underglaze
So since you used under glaze on bisque do you do another fire and another clear glaze?
you must have to! after you do marbling, you must burn firs the color...if not, shaving foam is grease so the glaze did not catch
i am Japanese, sorry if I didn't communicate well.
Is this process of applying paint after biscuit firing ? Or is it right after trimming?
It's after the biscuit fire, otherwise you won't be able to hold the piece under the tap
@@caldervanandel Thanks for the reply. I see, that was very helpful. I will try it next time ^^
We tried this technique with Duncan Concepts - so far every project has fired out with many "glaze pulls" Have had the ladies re-clear glaze & fire to fix the problem. Any idea why this happened?
the shaving foam likely has moisturizing ingredients that are acting as a resist on the bisqueware. It's like putting on lotion then handling bisqueware (glaze will crawl from the areas your hands touched. Dust does the same. This would be a better technique for people who glaze fire raw OR if you re-bisque. Hell, even doing this on greenware would be better than bisque
Can you do a video on the bubble glazing?
Yes, but it will take some time! (Sorry for the late response)
thank you!
amazing!!!! thanks for sharing
At what step did you do the rinsing off part?
I just let it dry for a few minutes
Keep uploading more videos please
I really like this technique. Do you have to wait some time before rinsing off the shaving cream?
You can wash it off immediately!
@@caldervanandel Awesome! I will be trying this. Thank you.
@@dinarodriguez6533 Have fun!
Calders Ceramics i’ve tried washing it immediately, but it didn’t stick to the pot!
Me too! I just tried this with porcelain, and the water washed the underglaze away.
is the mug already glazed ? or has it just been fired once ?
Just been fired once!
please i wanna know if we can use the acrylic paint instead
nO DONT USE ACRYLIC
What kind of clay did you use
Standard white stoneware!
Can you do this for low fire bisque come 04-06?
I'm sorry for the late response, the lower the better!
Hi! 🙋🙋
I hope you can help me...
When you say underglaze, you mean "engobe" (Clay-water-pigment)?
And you use it on a cooked piece?
You are amazing!
I buy ready-made underglaze from amaco or duncan. I don't know if they add something else to this mixture. The piece is indeed bisque fired!
@@caldervanandel thanks!! 😘
with bisque ware use this technic and spray clear glaze over it to fire cone 5 ...?
I don't spray the glaze, I brush it. I think both will work. If it's clear glaze for cone 5, it should work!
@@caldervanandel Would it work better to refire in a bisque load then put on the clear glaze? Or is that unnecessary?
Wow! Great!!
Thanks!
What kink of paint its is used?
Does it happen with acrylic?
please i wanna know if we can use the acrylic paint instead
What brand of underglaze do you use?
It's from Duncan!
can you use an overglaze?
No, I don't think it works, but you can always try!
Que es underglaze en español, no entiendo
Does this technique work for cone 10 firing?
That's quite hot, I think the glaze won't dry then. Maybe if you wait longer to rinse, but I think the glaze will rinse off as well
I don't think you can find good vivid colors for cone 10.
@@caldervanandeldoes the medium fire works? If the underglaze is cone 5
Well, I’m going to buck the trend of uniformly positive comments: This seems to me like a lot of material and effort for a single little cup. It wouldn’t even work if you had a handle.
Why/how does it stick though ?
The bisque-fired piece absorbs the glaze!
Did you use a glaze or an underglaze?
Underglaze!
Or you can just use nail polish and water or spray paint and water. The cream is to messy and time consuming.
Hello,
Thanks a lot for sharing. Sorry but I'm not sure that the washing the piece you can save the colours. To my opinion, it's not possible. You can not get the beautifull effects you show.
i tried and its works perfectly
What an extreme waste.
Would stroke and coat work for this?
can you glaze with a clear glaze over the marbleized piece?
Yes, that's what I do😊