You know an alternate history world is in a f-ed up state when it has Sweden military sinking refugee ships. Hearing that on the news broadcast in an elevator as I was playing the game is definitely one of the biggest WTF moments I had playing it.
Now in reality the country with the second highest incidents of rape per capita in the world after opening its borders to "refugees" - Only Lesotho in Southern Africa has a higher statistic - and as they say: Everybody has their breaking point. It's not that much of a stretch that the Swedes could become hostile in such a way if that universe mirrors anything like our own...
@@KillerChickn if you're going to compare rape statistics isn't it a bit of a confounding variable to judge different nations by a different metric? of course, i dont really expect someone with your opinions to be very capable of thinking critically or crunching numbers, but give it a shot if your head doesn't start aching too hard.
@@Danne1886 He means that our country has been able to reclaim and even create new land for more living space and even creating the Deltawerken to prevent flooding in the future. So with the story of cyberpunk 2020/2077 being that the Netherlands couldn't reclaim sunken land after coastal flooding is basically pretty unrealistic
@@Danne1886 Also you're welcome to retire here, I just suggest you not to live in Amsterdam since it's pretty terrible there although beautiful. Maybe stay away from De Randstad aka 4 biggest cities here (Utrecht, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Den Haag) since there's alot of air polution in these cities.
@@Vitalis94 Lets be honest, Western Australia was never keen on the whole Federalizing thing in the first place and has had one foot out the door the entire time. It is no great leap to see WA forming its own nation and asking TAS, NT and SA if they are game.
@@samael2607 Nah, NZ is just too remote to be even remotely considered as a place worthy to conquer, sorry. At least in the modern age. But you know, that's a good thing, and trust me, as a Pole, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
@@danielduncan6806 So they had time for finer details you are saying? Well it's still pretty sharp work. Oh by the way, I am 50 years old, as if 4 days into the new year.
@@xamalion7334 That had always been a part of Cyberpunk, way back in the '80s when Mike first developed the game. Though most of that was born out of what he predicted would become of American Mall culture after the collapse of the U.S. Economy.
@@artfiend75 I don't know the Dredd comics yet, I just recently watched the movie again and noticed that especially the mega buildings and their interieur bear a striking resemblance to CP2077. But I guess I have to read them when the filmmakers took the source material in a right way.
The world of Cyberpunk is based on pen and paper game made by Mike Pondsmith in the early 90s. He created it, CDPR just uses it, like with the Witcher universe.
I really feel as if our world is becoming like this dystopia. Call me crazy but corporations are on their way to controlling a lot of things that shouldn't be. Its disturbing. I feel like this was a prediction. We never look deeper into this type of media.
Cahd: wins against Libya, has a civil war (again), has a lot of terrorist groups, *gets nuked*, and it still fights against terrorists, and radioactive mutants Me: that's Chad
In the Cyberpunk 2020 lore, Portugal is an actual AnCap State, where the goverment only exists in paper and it's all ruled by a bunch of corporation. Everything is subsidiced by them, riotters and anti-system supporters are know to be "reeducated" and the only thing people do is work a job that's selected based on their qualifications. It would be interresting to know what happen in 2077.
@@seraphthegatekeeper corporations are just the evolution of the borgeious evolution, why would you assume the rich and powerful wouldn't form an entity to accumulate capital more effectively. Granted the idea of capitalism is completely contradictory to the philosophy of anarchism but yknow.
@@PopPopPopPop where’d you get the idea that capitalism is alien to anarchism? Free Market Capitalism is the only form of economy in a truly anarchist society. Corporatist capitalism which is a tool of govt control is what is practiced now. Govt charters make corporations, not just a group of people coming together. One of the hallmarks of corporations is their legal liability shield. Without that, corporations cease to be anything different from any other business with shareholders.
@@seraphthegatekeeper anarchism is the complete removal of all hierarchical systems, capitalism is reliant on hierarchical systems, can't have capitalism without the masses labouring for capital owners. Corporations are more "an"cap than you are, they don't need to make excuses about the free market secretly working as intended, their only concern is to maximize profits, zero loyalty to any state entity. The state and capitalism work in tandem, you're too delusional to realize that the free market relies on govt powers regulating it.
Nah not really. There are many more major factors about it too. Among the first is the USA waging war in South America, which didn't go well for them. The Soviet Union didn't collapse as well.
The most depressing thing about the Cyberpunk universe to me is what happened to all the animals :( "the birds went first, then the dogs, but the cats put up a fight the longest." That shit made me pause and hug my kitty >
@@Youngyacob It is heavily implied that the cat you see in the game is a hallucination much like Johnny. This is taken from a shard in game: "A Bakeneko is a demon that comes from the afterworld to the mortal world and can take the shape of a cat. It brings misfortune and it can reanimate the dead."
I like how cyberpunk 2077 lore(?) includes the whole world mostly and incorporate even the ASEAN nations which most games center only on major Asian powers.
@@Watchmanskey True, though I'd imagine a corpo governed Jakarta in 2077's universe ruled by the Chinese minority wouldn't be underwater simply because they'd have the money and political rule to safeguard the rich and economically important parts of Jakarta from being taken by the sea.
@@chokeeweebee Interesting concept. I'd imagine it to be a modern day Venice with waterways and artificial islands. A Nomad game with jetskis, speedboats and such would be fun
Iirc, it had a similar fate to the US, but the union just didn't completely dissolve. Just extremely weak economically and became more open to trade. Kinda like irl Russian Federation, but they kept the name USSR
@@WordsofHeresyhow is Russia weak economically? They're literally the 6th largest economy by GDP PPP and 11th largest GDP nominal and have large manufacturing capabilities, Logistical abilities and military power.
The real life seems to be going into a cyberpunk & corporate dystopia / 1984 dystopia I can't wait for the asteroid impact that will end all life on earth
@@CBRN-115 We kept voting for billionaires and demanding that corporations get free reign under right wing crony capitalism. And, well, the trajectory is now set.
The "General Ramos" is probably named after the real life Philippine General Fidel V Ramos who sided with Corazon Aquino in 1986 revolution, who eventually becomes the President of the Philippines in 1992. The name Lopez may have been a reference to powerful Filipino family who owned one of the largest media company in the Philippines. Aguilar is either a reference to Filipino folk/rock artist, but also a powerful political family of City of Las Pinas (Part of Metro Manila)
@@СергейСердюк94 True, we are in a crisis. And yeah, it's caused by our own stupidity. We should've never let ourselves become dependent on Russia, we should've put efforts into making our supply chain geopolitically versatile ever since Crimea was annexed in 2014. But we didn't, and now we're suffering the consequences. Although despite the economic crisis, we are nowhere near a state of collapse. RT has, for years, been furthering the narrative that EU countries are unlivable shitholes that are approaching a societal collapse. It's not something they say out loud, but an impression they want to give to the viewer through their selective and exaggerated reportage. I don't watch them anymore, but I'd be very surprised indeed if they haven't jumped at this opportunity to make Northwestern Europe seem dystopian.
@@pedrovascodeoliveiraveriss6293 At least in our reality, it hasn't resulted in a massive oil spill that rendered much of the SCS inhabitable. Well, yet.
DLC in lawless dubai would be pretty preem, choom. I imagine it being just as dark as the last game set in that city: Spec Ops: The Line. Imagine exploring that kind of story in that kind of city, but fleshed out in a way that only an rpg can do.
Antarctica's colonised due to the ice sheets completely melting and Koalas are extinct in Australia, Central Europe is a desert with temperatures at least 100 celcius and is regularly plagued by radioactive dust blown over from Africa
@@electricc437 Thing is, the lore of Cyberpunk focuses mostly on Night City, and the knowledge of outside world is so scarce, it's almost no existent. Say if they had to make their second game take place in another city, they would have come up with the whole lore for it. At that point the question would be: "Is it still the same world?" It could've easily been some other universe, not created by Mike Pondsmith.
One of the most sober and saddest thing I heard in Cyberpunk was in a radio extract, which mostly goes: The Himalayan Wars rendered the Himalayas a wasteland but not only that, it disturbed the climate globally and that's why the green energies plummeted, winds were affected and solar energy aswell. I was driving a motorcycle and had to stop because I couldn't believe what was being said
To be fair, there are many areas which are nuclear or biological wastelands in the Cyberpunk universe. Like North Africa, Central Asia. That world is really fucked up.
Ngl, I stopped for a brief moment when I was in the mission with Panam to bring the Kung Tao AV down cuz I saw the mountains of trash going and going... If its this bad in one mega city, I could only imagine how the oceans and whole countries would look like. Is a grim world indeed.
@@d.ml.g9902 if you’ve ever visited a municipal landfill, you’d realize it’s literally a mountain of waste, and the trash that covers the landscape surrounding night city seems like a large amount but would only be a relatively small addition to a managed landfill. Think 2d vs 3d, surface area vs volume. The amount of decomposition that naturally occurs from just the organics breaking down is enough to be loosely piped out and burned into a waste-energy production facility, and even then those systems only manage to capture maybe 10% of the methane being produced on a good day. And it’s only getting worse every year.
@@Rwdphotos I have gone to one since I live kinda close to one of these, but the thing about the Night City one is that it goes for miles and miles, sure we have kinda those here but not to the extent in where is literally just outside the city, under bridges, highways and between buildings and such. Although I agree with you, that we are definitely reaching those levels by the day in our current situation.
without economic support from a strong US, canada would collapse and crumble into 7 different countries. toronto and montreal would be brutal corporate cities, the western provinces would be a lawless cowboy land.
So basically Y2K happened earlier than expected and actually happened, which somehow lead to the blooming of actual future tech and a new currency system.
What about Australia, I mean we might have our pollies still sitting back going 'Her fellas, peace, c'mon, lets me nice, friendly'. Somethings might never change...
Can you make a video about the USSR in cyberpunk? In several quests and data shards it is mentioned as still being around and that would make an interesting video
Speaking with one of the rippers in-game, she makes it seem like the US, and especially night city, is pretty much a degenerate 3rd-world country compared to the ussr, at least in terms of quality of life. Their cyber tech is still behind the times though.
I'm gonna guess that Canada is either: A) completely ignored B) literally hasn't changed at all C) has been annexed by the US D) is some utopia compared to a dystopian US
Sounds like some of the things around the world that happened or happening in the game are looking like our future. Sad to say but it's already started.
@@NurseAmamiya That's actually my point. Despite the decades of potential possibilities like some countries have been flooded, nuked, turned to glass, and/or have undergone drastic political reformations, the Philippines gets to slap "new" in its name and still be the exact same old Philippines as it is irl. XD
I ALWAYS have this question in post apocalyptic/ cyberpunk/ futuristic etc. games. Like I’m always wondering how things are in way Japan in the Fallout games. So thanks for the video
I also wondered this because when I watched edgerunners it seemed like there was only 3 places night city,space, and the badlands but when I played the game V said she went to Atlanta or something
So, say, 2021 USA from Our Timeline vs Cyberpunk NUSA 2021? Our USA would've won. Yes, the Cyberpunk USA has technological advantage (AV's, early cybernetics), but it's a crippled country. Economically, our US is more stable, so would've won in the end.
I knew going into Cyberpunk 2077 that it was a dystopian universe. But the more and more shards I read and research I did about the universe the game is set in, the more depressed I got. I love games that are set in a post-apocalypse world, but Cyberpunk is arguably a worse timeline to live in, I'd argue. With games like Fallout, I never felt genuinely bummed out by the world or anything. Everyone was knocked back to the Stone Age. But Cyberpunk's universe is worse to me because there's nothing anyone can do while the situation with the entire planet is rapidly deteriorating and nobody gives an iota of a shit about it. Like people just accept that things suck or just become nihilistic about it to the point where basic things like human lives, healthcare, and standard of living become trivial things with a massive price tag because mega corporations own literally everything. Even the advertisements make me sad. People literally eat bugs and live in a pod while they try to eek out a meaningful life to no avail while the world is crumbling around them. I genuinely think that's worse than a post-apocalypse timeline where at least you aren't literally owned by soulless corporations.
Oh no doubt the world is super depressing. But I think that just lends more credence to Cyberpunk 2077s very human central story. You meet a lot of pieces of shit and are constantly exposed to the worst of society but the "good" characters you meet like Jackie, Misty, Panam, Judy, River, etc, they stand in stark contrast to the depressing background and make you feel like even though the world is going to shit some things are still worth fighting for.
😂 I hope you know that the most depressing thing about everything you’re saying is that we are essentially living the beginning stages of that. Yeah I felt the same even when it was buggy I was awed by it like a peek of what will be or what could be
The Netherlands? Flooded? Those smart cookies have been living under the sea level for ages. They'll find ways to keep living like that before it even gets that far.
Bugs me as well. 2020 lore mentions how outlying areas like Zeeland had to be adandoned, but they reclaimed all of the IJselmeer (that big lake in the middle of the Netherlands. So what went wrong in the next 50 years? I don't see a mass of refugees fleeing the Netherlands unless some kind of tsunami hit them.
Australia's ties to UK were broken when the monarchy was overthrown. The Federal Republic of Australia is formed in 2001. The Aborigines form terrorist group to combat the the government, which seems to not care about them. In the same year, Western Australia secedes, forming the Republic of West Australia. They become quite wealthy from oil production. The Federal Republic of Australia declares trade embargo against the West Australia. Then food crash happens worldwide (due to biological warfare and natural disasters) and it hits Australia pretty bad. Meanwhile New Zealand crop production is very high, and they become major exporter. Then Hong Kong refugees flood the country. Only later they cease all export to feed their own starving population. They legalize Marijuana in 2007. New Zealand is quite stable in the 2020s. That's all we know about New Zealand. During Euro-American conflict, Town Springs is destroyed due to orbital borbandement. For the rest of the decade, Australia is mainly occupied with droughts, building Space Ports, clearing biological wastelands as many cities pollute the rivers. As for Russia, Gorbachev succesfully reforms the Soviet Union. Then his successor, Gorborev, transforms the country into the Union of Sovereign Soviet Republics, to keep the various republis from seceding. SovOil corporation gains huge tracks of land for themselves. Throughout the 2020s and 2040, Soviet Union declines, as their lag somewhat technologically, and aren't able to feed their whole population. Most of Russia becomes Nomadic, with the exception of few megapolises, like Moscow or Leningrad.
The cyber punk party ended long ago n people moved on to next fad, anyhows, cyber punk is THE only game which mentions most of the world. TWA or transworld air is headquartered in east africa, kenya to be precise according to lore. Also, there's been a the big corpos clashed severally head on n in proxy wars in africa. The game fad died but hard core cult following continues. There lots going on in the world in cp universe if u buy handbook
The bit about the Philippines seemed to be an extrapolation of the country circa late 1980's/early 1990's with the coup de etats rocking it, unemployement, etc.
I'm somehow not surprised that Canada has been completely overlooked in the lore here like it is in a lot of other sci-fi properties set in the not-too-distant future, but still disappointed all the same.
I learned this from another video. 80 percent or so of all food in night city is called kibble, wheat based pellets for very cheap, then there’s synthetic meat called S.C.O.P. which is around 18 percent of the food in NC, the last 2 percent is real food. Corpo execs get to eat real food on average 5 times a week, nowhere near enough for every meal. All the real food that corpo execs only get to eat like 4 times a week, is grown in Canada. But yeah that’s all I’ve learned about the proud north, have a good one
As many of the basic cyberpunk stories are the future as seen from the 80s and early 90s, the Cold War is still a topic in these worlds. And the rift between the West and East basically is a line from the Baltic Sea and through the Middle East. Hence, clashes would occur right there where systems collide, fueled by both political dogmatism and religious fanatism. I mean, it isn't too far off today either: you have the Iranian regime on one side (with a couple of dependent countries all around the Persian Gulf and the Arabian peninsula) and Saudi Arabia on the other side both vying for regional power (with the latter these days as a perceived ally of the USA). Third: during the Cold war, common knowledge was that a clash of the systems and their proxies would occur in one or more of three possible theatres: Central Europe (Germany), with a Russian push through Fulda Gap; a second Korean War; and third, a rather disturbing one, the nuclear annihilation of Israel and the hostilities in the aftermath.
They based it on the political turbulent period of the 80s to the early 90s. I'm pretty sure "lack of economic development and infrastructure," is no longer applicable since the country has been rapidly economically growing within the 2010s and the government has numerous industrial and infrastructure developments at the moment.
Sweden: "People who hate and want to destroy the west; you are all welcome! Bring your families as well!" Also Sweden: "Dutch people and Belgians who share our western values, are tech savvy and have agricultural knowledge and skills that would greatly benefit Scandinavia? No way! Sink their boats!" Yeah. Makes sense 👍🏻
When you end with Cyberpunk i would love too see similar series about world of Shadowrun. I curently play again Shadowrun games (Shadowrun Returns, Dragonfall, Hong Kong), Cyberpunk is too much for my old PC.
I find funny how we have more advanced tech(besides most of the augments for human bodies) than the rest of the game like self driving cars, helicopters, airplanes,drones,rockets,robots and more 😂
Did you not play the game at all lmao. There are self driving cars, example ingame being the Delamain Taxi service or the AVs you see flying about the world. Helicopters arent as widely used, I assume because of AVs, but are seen a couple of times in the game, for example you ride one when you first play as Johnny Silverhand (its called the Zetatech Valgus) Airplanes are the only thing i dont remember seeing referenced and arent in the game anywhere. My assumption is they were replaced with AVs, mainly since mass transit may not exist as people are too poor to go abroad, and the rich take private AVs. Drones are very common and exist in the game. They serve different purposes from combat drones (such as the Militech Griffin) to civilian drones which do things such as waste disposal (such as the Zetatech Canopy) Rockets exist, there is a rocket pad in night city, its how people get to that big space station thing in the game Robots also exist in many varieties
I love cyberpunk and the dark alternate world it spins. But that phrase, “sci-fi is about the present, not the future,” and you can tell Mike Pondsmith was spinning a lot of the lore from political anxieties and cultural tropes from the 1980s. Much of it is still relevant maybe even more so now but much of it was from the time it was created.
All we need to begin living in the Cyberpunk 2077 universe is for another major economic crisis IRL to happen, and it will cause chaos across the world. Add some things like a new company had developed a more advanced version of the Internet, the proliferation of advanced prosthetics and the beginning of cyber-augmentation, and voilà!
I mean, the cloud is technically the next web, the prostethics are getting more and more advance till the point where there are already works to connect it to your neural interface and corps like Amazon, Apple, Google and Microsoft are 24/7 working on making everything smart and connected with everything, prime examples of the project for the google glasses, Siri and Cortana to do things with your command plus working on VR experiences and games, almost reaching AR. We are in the early stages of the Cyber, we are just missing the disasters to get the Punk.
You know an alternate history world is in a f-ed up state when it has Sweden military sinking refugee ships. Hearing that on the news broadcast in an elevator as I was playing the game is definitely one of the biggest WTF moments I had playing it.
Yeah completely the opposite of RL Sweden xD
Now in reality the country with the second highest incidents of rape per capita in the world after opening its borders to "refugees" - Only Lesotho in Southern Africa has a higher statistic - and as they say: Everybody has their breaking point. It's not that much of a stretch that the Swedes could become hostile in such a way if that universe mirrors anything like our own...
@@bogmanhimself4656 "When we change the definition of rape, much less rape is reported!" Yeah, okay...
@@KillerChickn if you're going to compare rape statistics isn't it a bit of a confounding variable to judge different nations by a different metric? of course, i dont really expect someone with your opinions to be very capable of thinking critically or crunching numbers, but give it a shot if your head doesn't start aching too hard.
@@bogmanhimself4656 The metric is rape. There is nothing else. Orwell would be proud of people like you twisting reality to fit your insanity.
The most unrealistic part of the lore is that the Netherlands couldn't reclaim sunken land.
True that
Fuck Netherlands 360 years is too much
What do you mean by that? I'm considering retiring there is why I'm curious.
@@Danne1886 He means that our country has been able to reclaim and even create new land for more living space and even creating the Deltawerken to prevent flooding in the future. So with the story of cyberpunk 2020/2077 being that the Netherlands couldn't reclaim sunken land after coastal flooding is basically pretty unrealistic
@@Danne1886 Also you're welcome to retire here, I just suggest you not to live in Amsterdam since it's pretty terrible there although beautiful. Maybe stay away from De Randstad aka 4 biggest cities here (Utrecht, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Den Haag) since there's alot of air polution in these cities.
As for Australia in 2077, we've lost the last koala.
I for one want to hear about the great emu wars, which left the entire nation a devastated radioactive bird wasteland.
Also, it's split in two countries, both Federal Republics, there are severe droughts, rivers are polluted, meanwhile NZ is doing great :D
@@Vitalis94 Lets be honest, Western Australia was never keen on the whole Federalizing thing in the first place and has had one foot out the door the entire time. It is no great leap to see WA forming its own nation and asking TAS, NT and SA if they are game.
@@Vitalis94 Probably because it is always left off of maps, so people forget it is there when deciding whereto invade
@@samael2607 Nah, NZ is just too remote to be even remotely considered as a place worthy to conquer, sorry. At least in the modern age. But you know, that's a good thing, and trust me, as a Pole, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
World building, though dystopic, at fairly high level of detail. Impressive..even if, disturbing.
@@danielduncan6806 So they had time for finer details you are saying? Well it's still pretty sharp work.
Oh by the way, I am 50 years old, as if 4 days into the new year.
I Love It!
even after all of this at least they still had bangers in the radio stations
There's a ton of great lore in the table top RPG books. I got them all on humble bundle even though I don't play. Awesome reads tho.
"The Netherlands is unable to reclaim land."
*Confused Dutch noises*
Well, it seems that cyberpunk universe is where everything went wrong.
So the world of Cyberpunk 2077 is almost like a Judge Dredd universe level of grimdark
High tech, low life, anarchic chaos next to tyrannical rule - the building blocks of a cyberpunk world
They also took a lot of the visual style (Mega Buildings, city life) from the 2012 version of Dredd.
@@xamalion7334 That had always been a part of Cyberpunk, way back in the '80s when Mike first developed the game. Though most of that was born out of what he predicted would become of American Mall culture after the collapse of the U.S. Economy.
@@xamalion7334 not from the 2012 movie man, from the original comic strip
@@artfiend75 I don't know the Dredd comics yet, I just recently watched the movie again and noticed that especially the mega buildings and their interieur bear a striking resemblance to CP2077. But I guess I have to read them when the filmmakers took the source material in a right way.
Say what you want about the video game, but they sure know how to make a futuristic world and tell an amazing story.
The world of Cyberpunk is based on pen and paper game made by Mike Pondsmith in the early 90s. He created it, CDPR just uses it, like with the Witcher universe.
I really feel as if our world is becoming like this dystopia. Call me crazy but corporations are on their way to controlling a lot of things that shouldn't be. Its disturbing. I feel like this was a prediction. We never look deeper into this type of media.
@@_Turtle_420 the thing is we are taught that we "need" those megacorperations.
@@bigbadlara5304 ugh tell me about it. We may just become like night city lol. Not an admiration but an inevitablity.
@@_Turtle_420 i feel like by 2040.... we will be living that cyberpunk dystopia ....
Can't believe Chad state wouldn't win any war purely by the meme name.
lmao
Believe it or not, they won against Libya...
@@Rrgr5 yeah and they partied so hard they got a civil war
ill never forget the toyota war's XD
Cahd: wins against Libya, has a civil war (again), has a lot of terrorist groups, *gets nuked*, and it still fights against terrorists, and radioactive mutants
Me: that's Chad
In the Cyberpunk 2020 lore, Portugal is an actual AnCap State, where the goverment only exists in paper and it's all ruled by a bunch of corporation.
Everything is subsidiced by them, riotters and anti-system supporters are know to be "reeducated" and the only thing people do is work a job that's selected based on their qualifications.
It would be interresting to know what happen in 2077.
Cyberpunk lore: Mega war in south america, USA x Venezuela, Colombia , Bolivia, Peru...
Brazil: I am a joke to you?
Umm...that describes a corporate feudal society, not AnCap. Corporations by definition are products of a govt charter.
@@seraphthegatekeeper corporations are just the evolution of the borgeious evolution, why would you assume the rich and powerful wouldn't form an entity to accumulate capital more effectively. Granted the idea of capitalism is completely contradictory to the philosophy of anarchism but yknow.
@@PopPopPopPop where’d you get the idea that capitalism is alien to anarchism? Free Market Capitalism is the only form of economy in a truly anarchist society. Corporatist capitalism which is a tool of govt control is what is practiced now. Govt charters make corporations, not just a group of people coming together. One of the hallmarks of corporations is their legal liability shield. Without that, corporations cease to be anything different from any other business with shareholders.
@@seraphthegatekeeper anarchism is the complete removal of all hierarchical systems, capitalism is reliant on hierarchical systems, can't have capitalism without the masses labouring for capital owners. Corporations are more "an"cap than you are, they don't need to make excuses about the free market secretly working as intended, their only concern is to maximize profits, zero loyalty to any state entity. The state and capitalism work in tandem, you're too delusional to realize that the free market relies on govt powers regulating it.
And don't forget the oceans are unusable due to a rogue AI.
it's incredible that economy hasn't completely collapsed considering how expensive shipping has gotten in Cyberpunk
Oceans? Don't you mean internet?
A rogue AI controls the oceans?
@@michatomaszewski9388 that's beyond the blackwall
@@danielmatsui4336 Not really control but destroy every ship on the sea it can find due to a glitch and it became somewhat self-aware.
So, basically, it is "what if nuclear weapons didn't have the desired effect of preventing war"
Nah not really. There are many more major factors about it too. Among the first is the USA waging war in South America, which didn't go well for them. The Soviet Union didn't collapse as well.
Yes because nukes have prevented so many wars 😂
@@СергейСердюк94uhh they have. That’s why we haven’t had any superpowers fighting other superpowers countries since WW2
@funcolours5556 yeah we just get proxy wars where everyone but us dies. Brilliant.
@rankovesc Bro the USA did wage war in South America. Using destabilization by fomenting dissent inside those nations.
The most depressing thing about the Cyberpunk universe to me is what happened to all the animals :(
"the birds went first, then the dogs, but the cats put up a fight the longest."
That shit made me pause and hug my kitty >
Oh those poor animals. They don't deserve such a fate
They have cats in the game
@@Youngyacob It is heavily implied that the cat you see in the game is a hallucination much like Johnny.
This is taken from a shard in game: "A Bakeneko is a demon that comes from the afterworld to the mortal world and can take the shape of a cat. It brings misfortune and it can reanimate the dead."
@@maxb2021 but Takemura sees it as well so it’s not very likely
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that might just be for Night City, they might still be alive somewhere else in the world
I like how cyberpunk 2077 lore(?) includes the whole world mostly and incorporate even the ASEAN nations which most games center only on major Asian powers.
well it isn't really cyberpunk 2077 lore, it's just cyberpunk lore, since CD projekt red didn't make anything, they just built a world on it.
Meanwhile Jakartans in 2076 are rioting like it's 1998
@@chokeeweebee Let's be honest, most of Indonesia would be under the sea by 2077
@@Watchmanskey True, though I'd imagine a corpo governed Jakarta in 2077's universe ruled by the Chinese minority wouldn't be underwater simply because they'd have the money and political rule to safeguard the rich and economically important parts of Jakarta from being taken by the sea.
@@chokeeweebee Interesting concept. I'd imagine it to be a modern day Venice with waterways and artificial islands. A Nomad game with jetskis, speedboats and such would be fun
The Soviet Union is also still alive as far as I've seen in the game. Would love to hear more about this.
Iirc, it had a similar fate to the US, but the union just didn't completely dissolve. Just extremely weak economically and became more open to trade. Kinda like irl Russian Federation, but they kept the name USSR
You can find a ripper in game that talks about her home in the ussr. Basically it’s like the NUSA but with less crime and a worse economy.
@@WordsofHeresyhow is Russia weak economically? They're literally the 6th largest economy by GDP PPP and 11th largest GDP nominal and have large manufacturing capabilities, Logistical abilities and military power.
@SergeiOleksao556 the government is deficit spending to prop up their economy and their forces have been getting routed since the spring offensive
@@Bro1212_ Which ripper?
The world: Well at least are world isn't becoming like the Cyberpunk universe
Me:sure
The real life seems to be going into a cyberpunk & corporate dystopia / 1984 dystopia
I can't wait for the asteroid impact that will end all life on earth
Nah, we dont have Soviet union 2.0.... yet
@@darykeng
European Union replaces Soviet Union here.
@@CBRN-115 We kept voting for billionaires and demanding that corporations get free reign under right wing crony capitalism. And, well, the trajectory is now set.
I keep saying on stream, this is the future. No doubt about it.
The "General Ramos" is probably named after the real life Philippine General Fidel V Ramos who sided with Corazon Aquino in 1986 revolution, who eventually becomes the President of the Philippines in 1992. The name Lopez may have been a reference to powerful Filipino family who owned one of the largest media company in the Philippines. Aguilar is either a reference to Filipino folk/rock artist, but also a powerful political family of City of Las Pinas (Part of Metro Manila)
No wonder people keep asking me if I'm filipino when they see or hear my surname
Some families always seem to come on top irregardless whatever system is used to govern.
Not to mention Kerry Eurodyne goes back to Masbate from time to time.
cyberpunk Ph looks bleak with corruption and instability taken to max level
but hey kabayan foods becomes the new jollibee
@@journeymanX jollibee becomes a megacorp. The horror
Apparently, Scandinavia is still doing fine. Which might be the most realistic thing in this timeline
Same thing with New Zealand
@@zee-fr5kw nah lmao
@@zee-fr5kw You've been watching a lot of RT, haven't you?
@@VorexiaRT doesn't say this, much of Europe is in inflation crisis and high food and gas prices caused by their own stupidity
@@СергейСердюк94 True, we are in a crisis. And yeah, it's caused by our own stupidity. We should've never let ourselves become dependent on Russia, we should've put efforts into making our supply chain geopolitically versatile ever since Crimea was annexed in 2014. But we didn't, and now we're suffering the consequences. Although despite the economic crisis, we are nowhere near a state of collapse.
RT has, for years, been furthering the narrative that EU countries are unlivable shitholes that are approaching a societal collapse. It's not something they say out loud, but an impression they want to give to the viewer through their selective and exaggerated reportage. I don't watch them anymore, but I'd be very surprised indeed if they haven't jumped at this opportunity to make Northwestern Europe seem dystopian.
I love the Cyberpunk lore! Keep it coming!
The world of cp2077 is just beautiful and terrifying at the same time
"Territorial disputes in the South China Sea"
PRC: Wait, I have seen this one before
The scary thing about cyberpunk fiction is how prophetic they get some time.
Yeah, that's a Little Too Close to "Real Life" to be Confortable.
@@pedrovascodeoliveiraveriss6293 At least in our reality, it hasn't resulted in a massive oil spill that rendered much of the SCS inhabitable. Well, yet.
@@Josua070
not yet, but that's something that could really happen
"The Swedish refused the refuges"
*Laughing with flabbergasted disbelief*
_Laughs in new alt-right Swedish government_
DLC in lawless dubai would be pretty preem, choom. I imagine it being just as dark as the last game set in that city: Spec Ops: The Line. Imagine exploring that kind of story in that kind of city, but fleshed out in a way that only an rpg can do.
100% perfect comparison
Johnny: Do you feel like a hero V?
Antarctica's colonised due to the ice sheets completely melting and Koalas are extinct in Australia, Central Europe is a desert with temperatures at least 100 celcius and is regularly plagued by radioactive dust blown over from Africa
On the social realm of 2077, T-posing became a hit trend when greeting each other.
This is awesome! Thank you for your time and detailed research. 👏🏾
I hope when the follow up to cyberpunk comes out (probably once we're all wrinkled), that we get play in a different city in an another country.
No, they need to expand the NC first.
@@Vitalis94 I said in the future.
@@electricc437 Thing is, the lore of Cyberpunk focuses mostly on Night City, and the knowledge of outside world is so scarce, it's almost no existent.
Say if they had to make their second game take place in another city, they would have come up with the whole lore for it. At that point the question would be: "Is it still the same world?" It could've easily been some other universe, not created by Mike Pondsmith.
@@Vitalis94 I see. That makes sense.
With less bugs
I'm currently playing through this game and I'm loving it so far
Been waiting for a video like this.
Would be amazing to have a DLC going to Dubai and finding criminals hiding out while trying to deal with radiation. Cyberpunk meets fallout
9:30
Jesus christ that sounds too accurate that it gave me shivers.
The news casts that you can either watch on TV or listen to the radio explain a lot
Central American War: Now set exclusively in South America
Aaaand without Brazil...
Every time I would listen to the world news while driving around Night City it would just make me go “oof”
"Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai."
You feel like a cybernetic hero yet?
One of the most sober and saddest thing I heard in Cyberpunk was in a radio extract, which mostly goes:
The Himalayan Wars rendered the Himalayas a wasteland but not only that, it disturbed the climate globally and that's why the green energies plummeted, winds were affected and solar energy aswell.
I was driving a motorcycle and had to stop because I couldn't believe what was being said
To be fair, there are many areas which are nuclear or biological wastelands in the Cyberpunk universe. Like North Africa, Central Asia. That world is really fucked up.
Ngl, I stopped for a brief moment when I was in the mission with Panam to bring the Kung Tao AV down cuz I saw the mountains of trash going and going...
If its this bad in one mega city, I could only imagine how the oceans and whole countries would look like. Is a grim world indeed.
@@d.ml.g9902 if you’ve ever visited a municipal landfill, you’d realize it’s literally a mountain of waste, and the trash that covers the landscape surrounding night city seems like a large amount but would only be a relatively small addition to a managed landfill. Think 2d vs 3d, surface area vs volume. The amount of decomposition that naturally occurs from just the organics breaking down is enough to be loosely piped out and burned into a waste-energy production facility, and even then those systems only manage to capture maybe 10% of the methane being produced on a good day. And it’s only getting worse every year.
@@Rwdphotos I have gone to one since I live kinda close to one of these, but the thing about the Night City one is that it goes for miles and miles, sure we have kinda those here but not to the extent in where is literally just outside the city, under bridges, highways and between buildings and such. Although I agree with you, that we are definitely reaching those levels by the day in our current situation.
Australia definitely went down the Mad Max route. I saw this cause I would personally love to drive the war rig
And as for Canada!!.. well Canada just stayed... as Canada
without economic support from a strong US, canada would collapse and crumble into 7 different countries. toronto and montreal would be brutal corporate cities, the western provinces would be a lawless cowboy land.
@@treehouse-xo9vt Economic support from the U.S.? What are you even talking about?
Canada became controlled by corporations too
So basically Y2K happened earlier than expected and actually happened, which somehow lead to the blooming of actual future tech and a new currency system.
Thanks for making these videos
What about Australia, I mean we might have our pollies still sitting back going 'Her fellas, peace, c'mon, lets me nice, friendly'. Somethings might never change...
Pondsmith got that right about the Philippines 100%.
Can you make a video about the USSR in cyberpunk? In several quests and data shards it is mentioned as still being around and that would make an interesting video
Speaking with one of the rippers in-game, she makes it seem like the US, and especially night city, is pretty much a degenerate 3rd-world country compared to the ussr, at least in terms of quality of life. Their cyber tech is still behind the times though.
@@Rwdphotos now im imagining what a cyberpunk game set in the USSR would look like
look up soviet union cyberpunk 2077 the wiki that comes up can give some details
Some games can predict the future, just a very small detail
Thanks for making this because i was really wondering what the rest of the world is like in Cyberpunk
Cyberpunk lore: The future in Cyberpunk is dark and grim
2020: Hold my purse.
what damn countries do you live in? I have literally No problems right now, or never had
I painted that scene at 6:50! Was pleasantly surprised to see it pop up haha
I wouldnt mind if they make a sequel in a different city
I'm gonna guess that Canada is either:
A) completely ignored
B) literally hasn't changed at all
C) has been annexed by the US
D) is some utopia compared to a dystopian US
its controlled by corpos :(
Also the main exporter of actual food
"Is it worse than the current version of the world?" Yeah, but just barely at this point.
Who knows maybe the cyberpunk universe existed in a parallel universe to us😁
That’s the hole point of a multiverse.
@@hawkevick9184 whole*
Gee, and I was just worried about that faulty chip in my head.
And the Australians and Canadiens are just vibing on the beach and skiing.
Australia and New Zealand just sitting down the bottom doing the side-eye bear at the rest of the world.
Sounds like some of the things around the world that happened or happening in the game are looking like our future. Sad to say but it's already started.
no duh
*As a Filipino finding out what happens to the Philippines*
We slapped the word "new"...that's it
New Philippines could be also known as Maharlika, as the official name of the country.
Wdym? Cyberpunk Philippines *is* real Philippines rn, and always has been lmao
@@NurseAmamiya That's actually my point. Despite the decades of potential possibilities like some countries have been flooded, nuked, turned to glass, and/or have undergone drastic political reformations, the Philippines gets to slap "new" in its name and still be the exact same old Philippines as it is irl. XD
Can you do more lore stories ? Like you should do one about the first net crash
I ALWAYS have this question in post apocalyptic/ cyberpunk/ futuristic etc. games. Like I’m always wondering how things are in way Japan in the Fallout games. So thanks for the video
*US invades Panama again*
Panama: Ah shit, here we go again
I also wondered this because when I watched edgerunners it seemed like there was only 3 places night city,space, and the badlands but when I played the game V said she went to Atlanta or something
I wish you had, included the Turkey also lot going on there in Cyberpunk Universe
A radioactive sandstorm
@@elperrodelautumo7511 bro I live in Turkey 🧐🧐🧐
Cool to know! Wish for u guys review how would the 21st century real USA fair against it's Cyberpunk counterpart in the Cyberpunk universe.
USA from 2077 stomps
@@nobleman9393 whatever
So, say, 2021 USA from Our Timeline vs Cyberpunk NUSA 2021? Our USA would've won. Yes, the Cyberpunk USA has technological advantage (AV's, early cybernetics), but it's a crippled country. Economically, our US is more stable, so would've won in the end.
@@Vitalis94 yeah something like that
As of 2020, we had a lower literacy rate than Cyberpunk did. Agony.
Still waiting for that stargate sg-1 video!!!
I knew going into Cyberpunk 2077 that it was a dystopian universe. But the more and more shards I read and research I did about the universe the game is set in, the more depressed I got. I love games that are set in a post-apocalypse world, but Cyberpunk is arguably a worse timeline to live in, I'd argue. With games like Fallout, I never felt genuinely bummed out by the world or anything. Everyone was knocked back to the Stone Age. But Cyberpunk's universe is worse to me because there's nothing anyone can do while the situation with the entire planet is rapidly deteriorating and nobody gives an iota of a shit about it. Like people just accept that things suck or just become nihilistic about it to the point where basic things like human lives, healthcare, and standard of living become trivial things with a massive price tag because mega corporations own literally everything. Even the advertisements make me sad. People literally eat bugs and live in a pod while they try to eek out a meaningful life to no avail while the world is crumbling around them.
I genuinely think that's worse than a post-apocalypse timeline where at least you aren't literally owned by soulless corporations.
Oh no doubt the world is super depressing. But I think that just lends more credence to Cyberpunk 2077s very human central story. You meet a lot of pieces of shit and are constantly exposed to the worst of society but the "good" characters you meet like Jackie, Misty, Panam, Judy, River, etc, they stand in stark contrast to the depressing background and make you feel like even though the world is going to shit some things are still worth fighting for.
😂 I hope you know that the most depressing thing about everything you’re saying is that we are essentially living the beginning stages of that. Yeah I felt the same even when it was buggy I was awed by it like a peek of what will be or what could be
Take out all the direct “cyberpunk” references and I could see this being some kind of prediction video instead of an alternate history.
cyberpunks lore is just crazy
The Netherlands? Flooded? Those smart cookies have been living under the sea level for ages. They'll find ways to keep living like that before it even gets that far.
Bugs me as well. 2020 lore mentions how outlying areas like Zeeland had to be adandoned, but they reclaimed all of the IJselmeer (that big lake in the middle of the Netherlands.
So what went wrong in the next 50 years? I don't see a mass of refugees fleeing the Netherlands unless some kind of tsunami hit them.
It’s funny to see the Arkansas state capital at 3:03 minutes in. It has the same design as the national capital in D.C.
What about Australia, New Zealand, Africa, and Russia?
Russian ia still communist
They do what they usually do
Australia's ties to UK were broken when the monarchy was overthrown. The Federal Republic of Australia is formed in 2001. The Aborigines form terrorist group to combat the the government, which seems to not care about them. In the same year, Western Australia secedes, forming the Republic of West Australia. They become quite wealthy from oil production. The Federal Republic of Australia declares trade embargo against the West Australia.
Then food crash happens worldwide (due to biological warfare and natural disasters) and it hits Australia pretty bad.
Meanwhile New Zealand crop production is very high, and they become major exporter. Then Hong Kong refugees flood the country. Only later they cease all export to feed their own starving population. They legalize Marijuana in 2007. New Zealand is quite stable in the 2020s. That's all we know about New Zealand.
During Euro-American conflict, Town Springs is destroyed due to orbital borbandement. For the rest of the decade, Australia is mainly occupied with droughts, building Space Ports, clearing biological wastelands as many cities pollute the rivers.
As for Russia, Gorbachev succesfully reforms the Soviet Union. Then his successor, Gorborev, transforms the country into the Union of Sovereign Soviet Republics, to keep the various republis from seceding.
SovOil corporation gains huge tracks of land for themselves.
Throughout the 2020s and 2040, Soviet Union declines, as their lag somewhat technologically, and aren't able to feed their whole population. Most of Russia becomes Nomadic, with the exception of few megapolises, like Moscow or Leningrad.
The cyber punk party ended long ago n people moved on to next fad, anyhows, cyber punk is THE only game which mentions most of the world. TWA or transworld air is headquartered in east africa, kenya to be precise according to lore. Also, there's been a the big corpos clashed severally head on n in proxy wars in africa. The game fad died but hard core cult following continues. There lots going on in the world in cp universe if u buy handbook
Nice video. Also, you sound just like Eugene Levy.
This just makes me want years of DLC
hey thats not fair whats up with germany special bavaria?
The bit about the Philippines seemed to be an extrapolation of the country circa late 1980's/early 1990's with the coup de etats rocking it, unemployement, etc.
Weird how the Gang of 4 basically exists IRL
I'm somehow not surprised that Canada has been completely overlooked in the lore here like it is in a lot of other sci-fi properties set in the not-too-distant future, but still disappointed all the same.
I learned this from another video.
80 percent or so of all food in night city is called kibble, wheat based pellets for very cheap, then there’s synthetic meat called S.C.O.P. which is around 18 percent of the food in NC, the last 2 percent is real food. Corpo execs get to eat real food on average 5 times a week, nowhere near enough for every meal.
All the real food that corpo execs only get to eat like 4 times a week, is grown in Canada.
But yeah that’s all I’ve learned about the proud north, have a good one
@@riplix20 Thanks. It isn't much, but I'll take it.
The gang of four was actually formed in 1990 in the timeline and was led by the at the time vice president
There's no audio? Must be on my end but idk
What’s with cyberpunk stories always turning the Middle East into a nuclear wasteland
As many of the basic cyberpunk stories are the future as seen from the 80s and early 90s, the Cold War is still a topic in these worlds. And the rift between the West and East basically is a line from the Baltic Sea and through the Middle East. Hence, clashes would occur right there where systems collide, fueled by both political dogmatism and religious fanatism. I mean, it isn't too far off today either: you have the Iranian regime on one side (with a couple of dependent countries all around the Persian Gulf and the Arabian peninsula) and Saudi Arabia on the other side both vying for regional power (with the latter these days as a perceived ally of the USA). Third: during the Cold war, common knowledge was that a clash of the systems and their proxies would occur in one or more of three possible theatres: Central Europe (Germany), with a Russian push through Fulda Gap; a second Korean War; and third, a rather disturbing one, the nuclear annihilation of Israel and the hostilities in the aftermath.
What about Canada? Is it covered in the video on the US or were we forgotten in yet another game?
even in the Cyberpunk world, as a Filipino I can say that things does not change in our gobernment hahahaha
They based it on the political turbulent period of the 80s to the early 90s. I'm pretty sure "lack of economic development and infrastructure," is no longer applicable since the country has been rapidly economically growing within the 2010s and the government has numerous industrial and infrastructure developments at the moment.
Sweden:
"People who hate and want to destroy the west; you are all welcome!
Bring your families as well!"
Also Sweden:
"Dutch people and Belgians who share our western values, are tech savvy and have agricultural knowledge and skills that would greatly benefit Scandinavia?
No way! Sink their boats!"
Yeah.
Makes sense 👍🏻
WE NEED A HOI4 MOD FOR THIS UNIVERSE
Canada is she alive??? plz tell me I need to know.
Love the content finding it hard to like ur voice tho 🤣🤣
This sounds like a game of civilization 5 I played not too long ago.
If the USSR is still alive in 2077 wouldn’t that mean that the actual divergence point is in 1990 or 1991?
Never heard a better description for the philippines before
I wish I could figure out what was happening in cp2077 but my game kept crashing and freezing and I just got refunded
its itchin and burnin itchin and burnin
When you end with Cyberpunk i would love too see similar series about world of Shadowrun. I curently play again Shadowrun games (Shadowrun Returns, Dragonfall, Hong Kong), Cyberpunk is too much for my old PC.
Missed the opportunity on singapore and indonesia building a bridge to block the malacca strait and basically take control of global sea trade.
The story of night city is just like the story of las Vegas
or walt disney's community of the future
What happens in Night City...stays in Night City
movie bugsy same plot as night city
Black Lagoon anime
I live in Vegas and it’s more of a copy paste
So different, yet so horrifyingly familiar in our current timeline. 😳
BRB, need to go ask Mike Pondsmith to pick my lotto numbers.
I find funny how we have more advanced tech(besides most of the augments for human bodies) than the rest of the game like self driving cars, helicopters, airplanes,drones,rockets,robots and more 😂
they do have self driving cars, flying cars, drones, robots/borgs, and much more than us XD
Did you not play the game at all lmao. There are self driving cars, example ingame being the Delamain Taxi service or the AVs you see flying about the world.
Helicopters arent as widely used, I assume because of AVs, but are seen a couple of times in the game, for example you ride one when you first play as Johnny Silverhand (its called the Zetatech Valgus)
Airplanes are the only thing i dont remember seeing referenced and arent in the game anywhere. My assumption is they were replaced with AVs, mainly since mass transit may not exist as people are too poor to go abroad, and the rich take private AVs.
Drones are very common and exist in the game. They serve different purposes from combat drones (such as the Militech Griffin) to civilian drones which do things such as waste disposal (such as the Zetatech Canopy)
Rockets exist, there is a rocket pad in night city, its how people get to that big space station thing in the game
Robots also exist in many varieties
I love cyberpunk and the dark alternate world it spins. But that phrase, “sci-fi is about the present, not the future,” and you can tell Mike Pondsmith was spinning a lot of the lore from political anxieties and cultural tropes from the 1980s. Much of it is still relevant maybe even more so now but much of it was from the time it was created.
this sounds like a real bit of history from the close future. i mean, we are heading to that path faster than a sinking ship lol
My man sounds just like Jay baruchel when he talks
Seriously a dark future, like hella dark💀
Alen dont spoil 2020s and 2030s.
UA-cam will ban you for hate speech
Im joking of course.
All we need to begin living in the Cyberpunk 2077 universe is for another major economic crisis IRL to happen, and it will cause chaos across the world.
Add some things like a new company had developed a more advanced version of the Internet, the proliferation of advanced prosthetics and the beginning of cyber-augmentation, and voilà!
I mean, the cloud is technically the next web, the prostethics are getting more and more advance till the point where there are already works to connect it to your neural interface and corps like Amazon, Apple, Google and Microsoft are 24/7 working on making everything smart and connected with everything, prime examples of the project for the google glasses, Siri and Cortana to do things with your command plus working on VR experiences and games, almost reaching AR. We are in the early stages of the Cyber, we are just missing the disasters to get the Punk.
We're already on that trajectory.
Bruh
Didn't aged well
Lmao bro we are speedrunning this shit