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We loved this interview so much!! She is an incredible woman and owls are just the most amazing creatures! Couldn’t agree more that interspecies communication is essential and that communicating with animals on their instinctive level is something sacred that more people should have exposure to. We learned so much from this interview and it made our day. Thank you both Davis and Jeffrey for this wonderful interview! 🩷💚
This is extremely important and interesting. Before language there was another way to communicate and it was intuition and knowledge of symbolic behavior and also understanding the natural habitat and culture of the organism. To know these things together is very much to be able to communicate and understand an organism. They can reflect you and even your very thoughts and subconscious fears. Even something as simple as a feeling of being separate from them and alien is felt as a negative thing. Think about how humans prepare for being nasty to each other-“they are less than human”. Every organism is extremely sensitively attuned to this especially because predators make this distinction to do what they do. We have a very natural connection to the organisms on this earth that goes far beyond what science currently says. I have already learned to communicate with animals on their level. To some extent they can feel what you are thinking when they are close to you. To listen to an animal is to let them do subtle behaviors which you respond to in-kind. You have to be extremely aware in non-normal human ways that you are used to. Most people don’t even begin to do this or understand animals. I have noticed that I can a absolutely quickly make a bond or a connection to animals, but I’m slightly on the spectrum so a lot of how I understand humans who seem somewhat alien to me is through these same methods, so that’s probably why I’m extremely sensitive and understanding and conscious of these things. I have noticed animals appearing in the wild aligned with my thinking-and not just that hawk during and Ayahuasca ceremony… 😂❤ When I was younger I had the opportunity to grow up with a 🐅 tiger. I worked for a billionaire who bred and trained tigers and elephants. I spent all my lunch hours, breaks, and often many visits during the day alone in the enclosure with my little friend even until it grew very large. I played incessantly with him and once we were sitting together on the bench in the enclosure and it started biting my hand harder and harder looking at me… and I never had the thought that this was a foreign animal, but was continuous with who I am. This opens a pathway to higher connection and even I feel, however crazy, with the ancestors of the organisms involved. For whatever reason I saw the animal looking at me, at my eyes, and I knew it was looking for communication. When it bit down hard enough to hurt (they can bite hard) I smacked him, slapped him, equally hard on the nose. He immediately let go, but stayed sitting next to me. The context of the situation and the experience was calm throughout. I never had a feeling of “alien” or fear. It was absolutely fine and I continued eating my lunch and petting him. I recognized something had happened but I couldn’t explain what. Later I learned that this is a known behavior of growing tigers which they normally do with their mothers. They bite down until she smacks them (probably a lot harder than I did) to learn how hard they can bite each other. To set that in their minds like a prepared-learning rite. So I definitely detected that was what was going on. He never did it again. Later I found out from the trainer when they moved him back to the compound with all the other tigers that it was by far their best tiger with people (they had a lot of tigers-once I played with 11 baby white tigers at the same time!!). I truly and seriously loved that tiger and so that’s part of it-that drives all need to understand and communicate. Love again is key. 🔑 ❤ Even today I cry thinking about him. The prejudices people have to creatures vs the soul they have inside them. Animals have extreme prejudices too which is why an owl would attack you when you mean it no Harm. ❤ So this is important to keep in mind. To be fully human is to be able to understand prejudice and to overcome it, to a large extent. ❤ An animal needs a lot of help with that sometimes, and that requires understanding their symbolic behaviors and their niche. ❤ But every organism is also set up with the keys and symbol-paths of love and you would be surprised how much they tell if you really “see” them and appreciate who they are and what they are saying. The reason is that these are indicators of love for them too. If someone helps you be who you really are, that’s LOVE in Capitol letters all the way .❤ This is why love really is the universal language. ❤ Every organism can feel and understand it. There’s a soul in every organism however attenuated compared to us, but it’s looking out through those eyes at the world. Part of who we are too. Every organism is a miracle, a staggering miracle, no Matter how fierce or dangerous including the tiger burning bright in the forest of the night eating humans. 😂❤ The true message of what they are is worth it. The true message of a universe where 99% of all organisms that ever lived have gone extinct. An author chooses words carefully because they are meaningful. All organisms in my book are reflections of god in what they do even human authors. Even a spider honoring you by being in your home eating other bugs there 😊❤ Nature has a voice, and if you look into its eyes while it is biting down on you in your pain you willl see the face of god in it. A higher intelligence. Perhaps an alien one. But not really alien at all. I feel like that about actual extra-terrestrials too. They literally could not really and truly be alien in this kind of universe. ❤ Learning to talk to animals is much more like talking to aliens than anyone currently recognizes. The animals told me so. I wrote this previous comment 20 minutes in 😂❤. Owls 🦉 have been very big in my life especially in the last few years. I had a barn owl land by me when I first moved to California abruptly and everyone thought it was crazy. I took a video of that owl 😊. Later I got a job at Amazon, and I work at a local whose symbol is an owl holding an arrow, near a protected area for burrowing owls. Love owls ❤
Thank you, Jeffrey and Davis. As both a lover of this channel and birds, this interview brought me a great deal of joy. As an Australian from the "Land of Parrots", I have a special bird too.........the Yellow Tailed Black Cockatoo........it has come to be my Psychopompic bird.
Maybe someone else has mentioned it before, but it strikes me there's a lot in common between psychotherapy and cleaning the shit that's piling up inside the cage of a bird of prey
I strive to communicate with the volunteer who opted to upload the podcasts and ask him her to think on me because at this pace I will never able to catch up with the latest releases,please
"Thinking" with words is actually a very new and recent human development. Actually a very simplified one. It was very much enhansed by printing and writing in just the last 500 years. And with modern urban life, away from animals and plants, now humans, mostly "scientists", believe thinking and expressing with words is the only acceptable high form of humanity, knowing and understanding. That is why they can not understand ancient peoples, like from America, who have plants and animals as most important expressions in their creations. And were not much interested in developing forms of "writing". Deep astronomical knowledge, they expressed with other simbols, more appropiate and precise, like forms, structures, animals, plants. And many of them were evidently able to be like jaguars, serpents, and of course, other entities, like rain, water, fire and invisible beings. Not simplistic superstition or mental alucinations, but much wider and "deeper" perceptions, not only thinking the world with very simple references like words. Musicians who "improvise" know a lot about that. They use a much more complicated language. For a more clear modern example. 🌟☝🤗👌🏻
Yet there are definitely different "cage circumstances". Far too many of them house mistreated, minimally cared for creatures - and too many of those are kept by people who think they benefit the animals in question. Other cage examples, imo, occur because the expense of sanctuary for critically endangered species is prohibitive. And - on the the land itself - it's difficult to build and monitor perimeters. We haven't made a collective decision to treat animals even as second-class citizens. While I haven't eaten meat for decades, I have fish and cheese while knowing that fish have consciousness. Yet I stopped eating calamari because - I suppose in a ruthless manner - I've decided they have MORE. (At least it would seem so, but I'm not silly enough to think that's the pinnacle of my hypocrisy.) To me, subsistence hunters source food in more 'moral', cleaner, ways than 'buying into' the USDA system wherein animals from farm to slaughter endure terror and pain. But presuming that everyone has access, ability or the desire to hunt is absurd. Humans aren't great at beginning civil conversations, and, overall, we've ceded the big decisions to a grim lot. As such, the market for outrage is always open - as is the one for sanctimony next door. Back to the horrors of cages, I may not like that the idea that Cleveland Zoo has a caged troop of endangered gorillas but, knowing the alternative, I'm OK. (The international organization to ensure their genetic diversity and particular health issues is a gain.) Is it convenient for me to count that and signs of their contentment, health and longevity? Busted. Seeing the zoo's orphan gorilla babies being adopted by allomothers, it would appear that some of our best teachers are locked up.
We've sure got a lot of humans that enjoy putting dogs in cages. I like how they call them crates now so they can make themselves feel better about it. I'm like why don't you get in that crate for 8 to 12 hours and see how you feel?
According to an Evolutionary Biologist on BBC Radio recently, our closest relatives are not the Monkey family but the Birds who are highly intelligent. He named in particular the Crow and the Raven. I imagine many Humans will be pleased and relieved to know this. ( I am ! ) 🤔 ("Green Fire", geoff nelson hill, bookshops UK/US ) 🌈🦉
Statement of Comment Etiquette for New Thinking Allowed
You are asked to be courteous at all times to all participants, and to limit your comments to the topics discussed in the videos. Your thoughtful participation is encouraged. If you post insulting comments here or promote political propaganda, conspiracy theories, or religious dogmas as if they were the absolute truth, you will have disqualified yourself and you will be permanently banned from posting on this channel. Except however, if you still want to post an aggressively rude or off-topic comment (and haven't yet been banned from posting), go visit our monolog about George Carlin at ua-cam.com/video/e5MKv667TRI/v-deo.html. All comments will be accepted there, but not here.
We loved this interview so much!! She is an incredible woman and owls are just the most amazing creatures! Couldn’t agree more that interspecies communication is essential and that communicating with animals on their instinctive level is something sacred that more people should have exposure to. We learned so much from this interview and it made our day. Thank you both Davis and Jeffrey for this wonderful interview! 🩷💚
Thanks Jeffrey. Great interview
This is extremely important and interesting. Before language there was another way to communicate and it was intuition and knowledge of symbolic behavior and also understanding the natural habitat and culture of the organism. To know these things together is very much to be able to communicate and understand an organism. They can reflect you and even your very thoughts and subconscious fears. Even something as simple as a feeling of being separate from them and alien is felt as a negative thing. Think about how humans prepare for being nasty to each other-“they are less than human”. Every organism is extremely sensitively attuned to this especially because predators make this distinction to do what they do. We have a very natural connection to the organisms on this earth that goes far beyond what science currently says. I have already learned to communicate with animals on their level. To some extent they can feel what you are thinking when they are close to you. To listen to an animal is to let them do subtle behaviors which you respond to in-kind. You have to be extremely aware in non-normal human ways that you are used to. Most people don’t even begin to do this or understand animals. I have noticed that I can a absolutely quickly make a bond or a connection to animals, but I’m slightly on the spectrum so a lot of how I understand humans who seem somewhat alien to me is through these same methods, so that’s probably why I’m extremely sensitive and understanding and conscious of these things. I have noticed animals appearing in the wild aligned with my thinking-and not just that hawk during and Ayahuasca ceremony… 😂❤ When I was younger I had the opportunity to grow up with a 🐅 tiger. I worked for a billionaire who bred and trained tigers and elephants. I spent all my lunch hours, breaks, and often many visits during the day alone in the enclosure with my little friend even until it grew very large. I played incessantly with him and once we were sitting together on the bench in the enclosure and it started biting my hand harder and harder looking at me… and I never had the thought that this was a foreign animal, but was continuous with who I am. This opens a pathway to higher connection and even I feel, however crazy, with the ancestors of the organisms involved. For whatever reason I saw the animal looking at me, at my eyes, and I knew it was looking for communication. When it bit down hard enough to hurt (they can bite hard) I smacked him, slapped him, equally hard on the nose. He immediately let go, but stayed sitting next to me. The context of the situation and the experience was calm throughout. I never had a feeling of “alien” or fear. It was absolutely fine and I continued eating my lunch and petting him. I recognized something had happened but I couldn’t explain what. Later I learned that this is a known behavior of growing tigers which they normally do with their mothers. They bite down until she smacks them (probably a lot harder than I did) to learn how hard they can bite each other. To set that in their minds like a prepared-learning rite. So I definitely detected that was what was going on. He never did it again. Later I found out from the trainer when they moved him back to the compound with all the other tigers that it was by far their best tiger with people (they had a lot of tigers-once I played with 11 baby white tigers at the same time!!). I truly and seriously loved that tiger and so that’s part of it-that drives all need to understand and communicate. Love again is key. 🔑 ❤ Even today I cry thinking about him. The prejudices people have to creatures vs the soul they have inside them. Animals have extreme prejudices too which is why an owl would attack you when you mean it no
Harm. ❤ So this is important to keep in mind. To be fully human is to be able to understand prejudice and to overcome it, to a large extent. ❤ An animal needs a lot of help with that sometimes, and that requires understanding their symbolic behaviors and their niche. ❤ But every organism is also set up with the keys and symbol-paths of love and you would be surprised how much they tell if you really “see” them and appreciate who they are and what they are saying. The reason is that these are indicators of love for them too. If someone helps you be who you really are, that’s LOVE in Capitol letters all the way .❤ This is why love really is the universal language. ❤ Every organism can feel and understand it. There’s a soul in every organism however attenuated compared to us, but it’s looking out through those eyes at the world. Part of who we are too. Every organism is a miracle, a staggering miracle, no
Matter how fierce or dangerous including the tiger burning bright in the forest of the night eating humans. 😂❤ The true message of what they are is worth it. The true message of a universe where 99% of all organisms that ever lived have gone extinct. An author chooses words carefully because they are meaningful. All organisms in my book are reflections of god in what they do even human authors. Even a spider honoring you by being in your home eating other bugs there 😊❤ Nature has a voice, and if you look into its eyes while it is biting down on you in your pain you willl see the face of god in it. A higher intelligence. Perhaps an alien one. But not really alien at all. I feel like that about actual extra-terrestrials too. They literally could not really and truly be alien in this kind of universe. ❤ Learning to talk to animals is much more like talking to aliens than anyone currently recognizes. The animals told me so.
I wrote this previous comment 20 minutes in 😂❤. Owls 🦉 have been very big in my life especially in the last few years. I had a barn owl land by me when I first moved to California abruptly and everyone thought it was crazy. I took a video of that owl 😊. Later I got a job at Amazon, and I work at a local whose symbol is an owl holding an arrow, near a protected area for burrowing owls. Love owls ❤
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Thank you, Jeffrey and Davis. As both a lover of this channel and birds, this interview brought me a great deal of joy. As an Australian from the "Land of Parrots", I have a special bird too.........the Yellow Tailed Black Cockatoo........it has come to be my Psychopompic bird.
She is wonderful.
I feel like I could sit down across the table from her and have an entire conversation without either of speaking a word out loud.
It's also nice to see someone else who has never read a Harry Potter book. I think I saw the first movie and I was done.
Same and same.
Maybe someone else has mentioned it before, but it strikes me there's a lot in common between psychotherapy and cleaning the shit that's piling up inside the cage of a bird of prey
Haha true, yike 🙈
I strive to communicate with the volunteer who opted to upload the podcasts and ask him her to think on me because at this pace I will never able to catch up with the latest releases,please
I suppose not. But, you could go back and listen to older ones that you have previously missed.
Thank you for a wonder.....
Loved this
"Thinking" with words is actually a very new and recent human development. Actually a very simplified one. It was very much enhansed by printing and writing in just the last 500 years. And with modern urban life, away from animals and plants, now humans, mostly "scientists", believe thinking and expressing with words is the only acceptable high form of humanity, knowing and understanding.
That is why they can not understand ancient peoples, like from America, who have plants and animals as most important expressions in their creations. And were not much interested in developing forms of "writing". Deep astronomical knowledge, they expressed with other simbols, more appropiate and precise, like forms, structures, animals, plants. And many of them were evidently able to be like jaguars, serpents, and of course, other entities, like rain, water, fire and invisible beings. Not simplistic superstition or mental alucinations, but much wider and "deeper" perceptions, not only thinking the world with very simple references like words. Musicians who "improvise" know a lot about that. They use a much more complicated language. For a more clear modern example. 🌟☝🤗👌🏻
Where is the link to the previous interview with her?
ua-cam.com/video/W1YAXI0qcVc/v-deo.html
Owls can swivel their necks 270° and cats have 270° vision! What?!
Higher frequency reached eating plants that are alive rather than dead decaying animal flesh.
What about freshly predated wild animals? #vibin
About Harry Potter - it would be great to have J.K. Rowling in the studio for an interview :)
How about just being in a cage. Ask an animal
Yet there are definitely different "cage circumstances". Far too many of them house mistreated, minimally cared for creatures - and too many of those are kept by people who think they benefit the animals in question.
Other cage examples, imo, occur because the expense of sanctuary for critically endangered species is prohibitive. And - on the the land itself - it's difficult to build and monitor perimeters.
We haven't made a collective decision to treat animals even as second-class citizens.
While I haven't eaten meat for decades, I have fish and cheese while knowing that fish have consciousness. Yet I stopped eating calamari because - I suppose in a ruthless manner - I've decided they have MORE. (At least it would seem so, but I'm not silly enough to think that's the pinnacle of my hypocrisy.)
To me, subsistence hunters source food in more 'moral', cleaner, ways than 'buying into' the USDA system wherein animals from farm to slaughter endure terror and pain. But presuming that everyone has access, ability or the desire to hunt is absurd.
Humans aren't great at beginning civil conversations, and, overall, we've ceded the big decisions to a grim lot. As such, the market for outrage is always open - as is the one for sanctimony next door.
Back to the horrors of cages, I may not like that the idea that Cleveland Zoo has a caged troop of endangered gorillas but, knowing the alternative, I'm OK. (The international organization to ensure their genetic diversity and particular health issues is a gain.)
Is it convenient for me to count that and signs of their contentment,
health and longevity? Busted.
Seeing the zoo's
orphan gorilla
babies being adopted by allomothers, it would appear that some of our best teachers are locked up.
We've sure got a lot of humans that enjoy putting dogs in cages. I like how they call them crates now so they can make themselves feel better about it. I'm like why don't you get in that crate for 8 to 12 hours and see how you feel?
According to an Evolutionary Biologist on BBC Radio recently, our closest relatives are not the Monkey family but the Birds who are highly intelligent. He named in particular the Crow and the Raven. I imagine many Humans will be pleased and relieved to know this. ( I am ! )
🤔 ("Green Fire", geoff nelson hill, bookshops UK/US ) 🌈🦉