Michael Gira has mellowed a lot when getting older. However, I saw him last week and het got furious because there was a curfew (23.30) He said he would never play there again :-)@@JustDatBoi
Very nice.... man I miss this band. Saw then in the mid 80s in San jaun Capistrano So cal... It was amazing. My teeth still buzz when I think about it.
People gave M Gira a lot of shit for this record ( Burning World). I liked it. I def missed the power of the Swans, but I liked that they focused on songwriting, then in the 90's he brought the power back with the quality of good songs.
I agree - I loved 'the Burning World' LP ...some had a problem with it being on a major label (MCA?) & others disliked it as it didn't sound like their 'filth' ,'Public Castration..' or their other 'industrial/unlistenable ' recordings..
@Rui Dias Everybody's entitled to have a personal opinion of his own but I like the whole album so much anyway. Some excellent songs there and the more folk-like production makes it different from any other Swans album which is another good thing for me, an advantage and not disadvantage. So different than the masterpiece "Children of God", but still very good in its own way. There are not many bands like Swans around who can do it.
@Rui Dias Yes, I agree, especially with that "haunting edge" thing which is exactly what I can hear, feel and truly enjoy in this album. But as I really adore Michael's work as Angels of Light, no album of that group as a whole appeals to me as much as "Burning World". I also see a kind of direction heard on "Burning World" as an essential step in Swans' career for such a masterpiece as "White Light..." to be born. And last but not least, I like to sing and I'm also a low voice type so plenty of wonderful songs for me to sing on this record:) Thank you for the exchange of views, cheers!
Heard Jarboe a month or so ago solo, with an odd drone-couple from Italy; Father Murphy. Some 30-odd people witnessed a very short concert - but she still has an awesome voice if she puts her soul into it.
I attended many Jarboe's concerts and within last several years her concerts started to tend to be very short, which was disappointing and frustrating a bit. Well, more than a bit, as otherwise those were usually excellent shows.
@@szarzyniecszczurzynski1902 I've seen her a few times live and she didn't convince me, I won't go and see her again. She always played quite a lot of Swans songs.
@@wanneske1969 Ok, that's your impression from the shows and nothing wrong with that as for me. But I was present on over ten of her concerts within last almost 20 years period with various material and line-up (or sometimes just her solo), most of them were excellent shows (some of them amongst the best in my live - and I have seen huge amount of various live shows) and she rarely used any Swans material (let alone "a lot") - it was rather like the public often wanted more from Swans period, than she was trying "to live off her Swans legacy":) I have most of her official solo/colaboration work (and there are more "less official" records too on CDRs etc.) and I do not have any doubts how talented and musically open this woman is and what she can do with her voice. If not the live shows then I suggest to give another try to her vast recorded work and there's much to choose from, believe me. Well, I can remember she used to have some health problems in the past and that matter could also affect at least one of her shows I personally witnessed. It was unusual situation but maybe you just hit upon some wrong shows? Anyway, your first statement there above cannot be more untrue and iniquitous. And remember either, it was her who didn't even think about rejoining Swans when they came to life again... Swans belong to her past, she is The Living Jarboe now.
If it werent for Jarboe, I would have never liked the Swans. I pretty much hated all the early output-but when a friend taped "In My Garden" for me I wasnt just sold, it was life changing for me. This was right before Gira's MASTERPIECE The Burning World came out and I was blown away. Been a believer ever since, AND even changed my mind with alot of the earlier stuff. Ps Im sure live the heavy handed ind/noise stuff was awesome, just not my cup of listening at home.
Took me a while to find it but it's the Channel 4 TV Show Club X 23rd August 1989, the show was made in London but that doesn't mean this particular segment wasn't filmed elsewhere.
I hate that the ending might have gotten sonically more exciting, but the crowd starts clappng and the band just stops... Guess it wouldn't have been TV-friendly.
They should had changed their name by that time!!!!! They sound and look like a completely different band. The Swans were a very extreme and insanely loud industrial noise-rock band.......!!!!!
Gira trying his hardest to break it into top 5 , like Depeche Mode , lol , what a " failure " ( no pun intended ) ... he should/ and is ashamed of these times, for sure , premeditatedly doing everything within his grasp to sell out ... actually took him a few years to realize where he actually belonged ... glad to see him getting back on track .
Delhi Delirium that may be accurate about the top 5. The track back is too much right and wrong, however (not to mention formalist). This period of Swans, annexed with the others, is a tribute to the artist’s exploration of the abyss, in search of truth and content. Certainly is fucking brave.
@@wanneske1969 In fact she has excellent, huge voice, even better than Michael and that means something:) And she knows how to use it too, in studio and live. Maybe you just hit upon some bad day of her or... just didn't like it?:) Personal tastes are just personal, nothing more, nothing less.
@@szarzyniecszczurzynski1902 In my opinion MG is a huge talent and Jarboe lives off his musical heritage, but that's just my opinion. I don't think she is good live.
@@wanneske1969 Well, "she's not good live" is your fully authorized personal opinion and I'm ok with that but "she lives off his musical heritage" is just complete untrue and has no background in the facts at all. I wrote you about it somewhere nearby, above or below... And, to say more, I consider her solo work after (or during) Swans period as much more interesting than Michael's non-Swans projects. To make the things clear, I don't think Jarboe is, well, a better artist than MG, especially songwriter, which is untrue or that MG is overall less talented person. I fully agree he is a huge talent and totally exceptional musical personality, I'm a big fan of both of them since 1997 when I stumbled upon Swans. But how I wouldn't adore MG voice and singing I'm still sure that Jarboe owns an even better voice in terms of range, potential, musicality, abilities, flexibility, clearness and power. She is just technically far better singer knowing how to use her talent. Her voice is totally exceptional in the world of, ehm, popular music:), blending classical and rock music qualities with a huge scale and amazing flexibility. And that was my point.
she's utterly beautiful.. my god
Jarboe is my favorite aspect of swans , I love her solo work too
She's awesome!
She's the absolute best person, professionally and personally, I have ever collaborated with.
@@ImaginalComponentyou've collaborated with her!? Elaborate on that please
My God.
Jarboe is just beautiful.
Jarboe is even more creepy and wicked than MG
@@wanneske1969but who is more pretentious?
Michael Gira has mellowed a lot when getting older. However, I saw him last week and het got furious because there was a curfew (23.30) He said he would never play there again :-)@@JustDatBoi
This is an amazing performance. FANTASTIC!
c
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One of the best things to happen to my ears ever.
SWANS - with Jarboe; so good, live!
YES, one must see her live.
Very nice.... man I miss this band. Saw then in the mid 80s in San jaun Capistrano So cal...
It was amazing. My teeth still buzz when I think about it.
You don' thave to miss them anymore...
They've been active through much of the 2000s, up to the present
I'm tripping and this is totally freaking me out, in a good way. Her kind of singing is exactly what is going on in my head right now.
Me too ! We just lit one up 😂today not 2 years ago lol but I am sure the feeling is still there strong
What were you tripping on? Jealous 😂
@@marcalfredo9826nbome
Swans covering Blind Faith. RESPECT.
Gira looks like Windwood circa1972....
JARBOE IS LOVE
Wow only heard some of swans stuff, didnt know wht they evolved into but i dig it❤
People gave M Gira a lot of shit for this record ( Burning World). I liked it. I def missed the power of the Swans, but I liked that they focused on songwriting, then in the 90's he brought the power back with the quality of good songs.
I agree - I loved 'the Burning World' LP ...some had a problem with it being on a major label (MCA?) & others disliked it as it didn't sound like their 'filth' ,'Public Castration..' or their other 'industrial/unlistenable ' recordings..
TRANSCENDING !!!
Son fenomenales, se acaban de presentar en Medellín, Colombia, donde tuve el privilegio de escucharlos en vivo.
Una banda estupenda.
Far superior than the studio recording. So Good !
I would say both of them are excellent...
@Rui Dias Everybody's entitled to have a personal opinion of his own but I like the whole album so much anyway. Some excellent songs there and the more folk-like production makes it different from any other Swans album which is another good thing for me, an advantage and not disadvantage. So different than the masterpiece "Children of God", but still very good in its own way. There are not many bands like Swans around who can do it.
@Rui Dias Yes, I agree, especially with that "haunting edge" thing which is exactly what I can hear, feel and truly enjoy in this album. But as I really adore Michael's work as Angels of Light, no album of that group as a whole appeals to me as much as "Burning World". I also see a kind of direction heard on "Burning World" as an essential step in Swans' career for such a masterpiece as "White Light..." to be born. And last but not least, I like to sing and I'm also a low voice type so plenty of wonderful songs for me to sing on this record:) Thank you for the exchange of views, cheers!
I dont know where this took me. But holy shit im trippin balls and im pretty sure im sober.
Heard Jarboe a month or so ago solo, with an odd drone-couple from Italy; Father Murphy. Some 30-odd people witnessed a very short concert - but she still has an awesome voice if she puts her soul into it.
I think she lives off her Swans legacy ….
@@wanneske1969 You think wrong, nothing more untrue, explore her huge solo/colaboration work.
I attended many Jarboe's concerts and within last several years her concerts started to tend to be very short, which was disappointing and frustrating a bit. Well, more than a bit, as otherwise those were usually excellent shows.
@@szarzyniecszczurzynski1902 I've seen her a few times live and she didn't convince me, I won't go and see her again. She always played quite a lot of Swans songs.
@@wanneske1969 Ok, that's your impression from the shows and nothing wrong with that as for me. But I was present on over ten of her concerts within last almost 20 years period with various material and line-up (or sometimes just her solo), most of them were excellent shows (some of them amongst the best in my live - and I have seen huge amount of various live shows) and she rarely used any Swans material (let alone "a lot") - it was rather like the public often wanted more from Swans period, than she was trying "to live off her Swans legacy":) I have most of her official solo/colaboration work (and there are more "less official" records too on CDRs etc.) and I do not have any doubts how talented and musically open this woman is and what she can do with her voice. If not the live shows then I suggest to give another try to her vast recorded work and there's much to choose from, believe me. Well, I can remember she used to have some health problems in the past and that matter could also affect at least one of her shows I personally witnessed. It was unusual situation but maybe you just hit upon some wrong shows?
Anyway, your first statement there above cannot be more untrue and iniquitous. And remember either, it was her who didn't even think about rejoining Swans when they came to life again... Swans belong to her past, she is The Living Jarboe now.
I just noticed how Gira looks like David Bowie
Jarboe reminds me of my metal arts teacher mrs Ray.
Gorgeous.
Way different than the industrial stuff but fucking wow. Can't even give it a genre their context is so huge.
Johan Smith ; Stevie Nicks? Nix?
If it werent for Jarboe, I would have never liked the Swans. I pretty much hated all the early output-but when a friend taped "In My Garden" for me I wasnt just sold, it was life changing for me. This was right before Gira's MASTERPIECE The Burning World came out and I was blown away. Been a believer ever since, AND even changed my mind with alot of the earlier stuff. Ps Im sure live the heavy handed ind/noise stuff was awesome, just not my cup of listening at home.
I taped this off the TV back in 1989. Prefer this version to the released version.
they were ahead of their time. Minus the bongos this is happening now in indy/pop/millennial music
Epic last second.
Thanks for uploading...not much Swans on TV...haven't seen this before ( possibly from itvs 'NightNetwork' ?)
Daniel Ash in the audience
Yeah, in the beginning, such an hair cut
i didnt expect to see norman westburg with long hair
That means you just haven't seen the original artwork from any version of "Burning world".
This is really cool
Som absolutamente viajante!
melhor banda ja criada na história
Wow fantastic. I guess Eric Clapton would like this cover.
omggg
Is that my boy Kristof Hahn on steel guitar?
Was wondering the same...
Looks a lot like him
Ja, natürlich. Also Norman Westberg with long hair.
mans still going strong today
heavens
!!!!
Holy shit, Travis bickle from baroness??!?????
Robin, German TV.
ivorytower99 can't be recorded this myself
i have a feeling this was Network-7, I remember watching this as it aired.
1988 ?
I think it was 89.
that's shot in Dublin..going by the presenter
Took me a while to find it but it's the Channel 4 TV Show Club X 23rd August 1989, the show was made in London but that doesn't mean this particular segment wasn't filmed elsewhere.
@@TravisBickle1963 yea Ur right...O just heard the accent..great clip ..love that album👍
I hate that the ending might have gotten sonically more exciting, but the crowd starts clappng and the band just stops... Guess it wouldn't have been TV-friendly.
They should had changed their name by that time!!!!! They sound and look like a completely different band. The Swans were a very extreme and insanely loud industrial noise-rock band.......!!!!!
Gira trying his hardest to break it into top 5 , like Depeche Mode , lol , what a " failure " ( no pun intended ) ... he should/ and is ashamed of these times, for sure , premeditatedly doing everything within his grasp to sell out ... actually took him a few years to realize where he actually belonged ... glad to see him getting back on track .
Delhi Delirium that may be accurate about the top 5. The track back is too much right and wrong, however (not to mention formalist). This period of Swans, annexed with the others, is a tribute to the artist’s exploration of the abyss, in search of truth and content. Certainly is fucking brave.
"too accessible, too mainstream" how hipster
"Ashamed" of as beautiful record as "Burning world"?;) Well, hmm... :D:D
Wow dude you are insufferable
terrible take still 5 years later
I saw Jarboe a few years ago and it was horrible
Without MG , Jarboe is no good. She has no good voice.
@@wanneske1969 In fact she has excellent, huge voice, even better than Michael and that means something:) And she knows how to use it too, in studio and live. Maybe you just hit upon some bad day of her or... just didn't like it?:) Personal tastes are just personal, nothing more, nothing less.
@@szarzyniecszczurzynski1902 In my opinion MG is a huge talent and Jarboe lives off his musical heritage, but that's just my opinion. I don't think she is good live.
@@wanneske1969 Well, "she's not good live" is your fully authorized personal opinion and I'm ok with that but "she lives off his musical heritage" is just complete untrue and has no background in the facts at all. I wrote you about it somewhere nearby, above or below... And, to say more, I consider her solo work after (or during) Swans period as much more interesting than Michael's non-Swans projects.
To make the things clear, I don't think Jarboe is, well, a better artist than MG, especially songwriter, which is untrue or that MG is overall less talented person. I fully agree he is a huge talent and totally exceptional musical personality, I'm a big fan of both of them since 1997 when I stumbled upon Swans. But how I wouldn't adore MG voice and singing I'm still sure that Jarboe owns an even better voice in terms of range, potential, musicality, abilities, flexibility, clearness and power. She is just technically far better singer knowing how to use her talent. Her voice is totally exceptional in the world of, ehm, popular music:), blending classical and rock music qualities with a huge scale and amazing flexibility. And that was my point.
@@wanneske1969 I saw you at the hoagies palace