CCA Hydro - TOTL disruptor!
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
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well cca struck gold then, congrats to them. they figured out the 7mm,the 8mm the best configuration for subbass and midbass without implementing the isobaric system. those dd driver actually are refound driver from shure 215 era and monster turbine,at the time it was blue pet driver heavy bass for 7mm and first gen graphene for the 8mm, currently with updated material. i think vision ears are the first to figured out the hidden potential of those driver in crossover implementation, even though they scale down to 6mm. after the bellsing trouble with intellectual right, things changes in mainland micro driver manufacturing to improve, about the ba drivers their are nearly closing in to knowles and sonion just interms of power handling, sound wise they are head to head. the future for chifi indeed promising, just hoping the styling improved down the line.
Was waiting for it, perfect timing for a lazy Sunday
Good to see you here, Paul! 😮
Hey man. My Hydro just arrived. I got it on Ali Express for $95. Took 13 days to come. I love it. listening to this video again I noticed many more details. Far away puppy barking and faint traffic. Phenomenal clarity.Thank you! This is my new favorite. I'm using hip dac2 also.
Does the price fluctuate .
@@saurabhrathore1 aliexpress always got a sale so you just need to keep a eye on it
@@saurabhrathore1 Not clear. The Hydro can be purchased with or without the upgraded cable. I bought mine with the upgraded cable and it set me back $103. Subtract $8 and you end up with $95 for the base unit without cable upgrade. Frankly, the cable is worth much more than $8, imo. If you do not already own a nice after-market C-pin/QDC cable, then the upgrade package is a good deal, imo. For sure, the Hydro is a competitive Hybrid at its price point. In fact, for a well-tuned hybrid with 2DD's and 8 BA's...I cannot think of a comparable offering at this price point.
It will probably drop at least 20% during 11.11, if the wait is worth it. My guess.
Sound like the set we've been anticipating from KZ/CCA for the last couple of years. Great review, you always nail it with the comparisons. Thanks Tony!
Okay, that was another great review Akros! Thank you Sir. Looks like I'm ordering a Hydro.
Great review as always , really looking forward to the comparison with the CKLVX .
Yet another great review, Tony. Anyway, would have been nice to include at least one single DD set, e.g. the 500LM or EA1000 in that comparison, always interesting to compare hybrids with solid single DDs (timbre, coherence, cohesiveness, transients, ...).
The switches not being oriented symmetrically is killing me 😵
Man... don't mention these things. I cannot unsee it now.
I was waiting for your take on these 😊 Everyone seems to be impressed by them, even some kz haters...
Great review. I wish I could get the Hydro man but for now I have the Rhapsody which is like my favorite set in my collection. Its so good for the price and even better since I switched them to foam tips.
Agree, Rhapsody is a killer hybrid at well under $40 (current price levels).
Very interesting, the only thing that holds me back from getting the Hydro is I might as well wait for an even further continuation of these designs or a tuning that more fits with my preference.
Thanks for the detailed review. How do you tell KZ CCA IEMs apart? The shells looked nearly identical.
I though Sliivo and Pula are going to be TOTL disruptors. Now Hydro also arrived in the market.
Very interesting price range to look into.
Yeah I am curious how this stacks up to the Sliivo Sl41
I would love to watch this comparison.
@@thiemevannoort6714 will make that comparison.
@@akros9333 you are the best, you deserve millions of subscribers. It is sad that your style is so detailed that most people cannot be bothered to appreciate it.
I bought the Puls PA02 for $50 used with a NICEHCK upgrade cable. I’m waiting for a used Hydro at a swinging deal too.
These are my 3 favourite budget iems at the moment; the KBear Rosefinch (filters removed + EQ), KZ PR2 og + [400 value filter ontop of existing filter & a big drop in -8k frq] on Fiio K3 dac + bass on, stock QKZ x HBB no EQ
The KZPR2 is unquestionably the greatest with the right setup; but it needs a lot of juice. If you told me it was worth $300-$400, I'd believe it. Get modding people it's the best thing I've done since beginning the hobby and it's as simple as putting a sticker on top of a mesh and pulling a number scale down. If I was KZ I would return to the KZPR2 and apply extra filtration and re-tune it. Lower the impedence; etc.
KBear with my EQ is good mostly for Chill-hop, Jazz-Hop, Lofi-hop, some reggae. But on these genres it's so good
How much power do you think is needed for PR2 to reach diminishing returns?
@@MrGarkin 500 MWt.
How would you say this compares to the PhoenixCall in terms of the midbass emphasis and treble detail? I'm torn between these two at the moment. Sounds like the hydro is more of a tucked bass with mid/vocal focus while the PhoenixCall is more of a "fun" v shaped sound.
My issue with so many drivers have been coherency compared to single dynamic driver in-ears. How is coherency compared to something like a IE200/600 or similar single dynamic in-ears?
I might go for this on an 11.11 sale...but I already have pretty good hybrids that I enjoy: CCA Rhapsody, Truthear HEXA.
Will probably keep my powder dry after a recent IEM gadget binge (Hidizs MP145, CCA Rhapsody, Artti T10, KZ Castor (improved bass), Tanchjim Zero).
The ARTTI line impresses me too, at similarly aggressive price points. The R1 triple DD, in particular.
Glad to see the KZ/CCA has gotten its act together and seriously stepped up its game. Good for consumers, good for the market.
11.11 will be interesting times, this year!
F-it....damn summer sale. Bought the R1 and the Hydro. Looking forward to their arrivals.
This one's gonna be fun 😊
Hi Toni. How do you position the KZ as24 in this bunch, since is aprox the same price. Thank you.
Which is better for hip-hop and pop btwn the hydro and EA500lm?🤔
Do you have Simgot EM6L to compare?
I think its the recent direct competitor to Hydro.
Hey man, which is better to but: cca trio for 17$ or Tangzu fudu verse 1 for 41$? I can't find any conparison so idk what is a better buy (and idk how fudu competes today). Thank you
Nice, I'm considering one. How do you find it for EDM, techno, ambient anything electronic?
What do you think the best iem for about 100$ for bass head and details?
Would also be interested if you could compare the Hydro with the Mega 5 EST. Thanks for all you do!
They say you can get better Bang for the Buck with a good F-fest.
I'll wait for the price to drop. Maybe 11/11. Looking toward EPZ and Dunu Davinci's launching, I am also considering Penon's Voltage, but since it's similar to the 10AE, I might pass.
Just ordered the Hydro, skipping the intermediate upgrades from the ZS10 Pro X, which is the last top KZ I bought. Curious how it will compare with my Timeless and Letshouer S08 which are my current top ones.
shall we give a chance again to KZ/CCA because of its "hydro" by means throw-in our money ?
I wish they try something different with less bass and less pina. A more relaxed/ neutral version of this would be great! They could also try a tribrid with planar drivers they allready have.
Ahhh still waiting for mine😊
Hmm... These sound interesting, like they could replace Rhapsody as a more earlier replaceable set vs my more expensive IEM which is important since I've left more than one pair in the pocket on the seat in front of me on an airplane 🤦
I'm deciding between the CCA Hydro (784 Core blue and silver braided cable) $120 vs the Myer Audio CKLVX D41 $168. I'm wondering if the CKLVX D41 is $48 better.
The Myer and the Pula (its sister clone, or vice versa) seem to be on a hype tour. I went with the Hydro. No regrets.
For me Hydro needed a little less mi bass.This is the reason it looses that extra tiny extra technicalities compared to P 8.I think also that the upper mids and tremble needed a little more refinement.With a few words with a little less midbass and a little less top shimmer Hydro is a kilo back iem and it doesn t matter if it says kz on its box.. if I could tune it from the start the bass without the switches up in the stock position would be 1-2 db less and the same for the mids and tremble stock position 1 db less than the one it has now.Kz needs to bring up a little more relaxed tunigs especially in the mid - highs.HM is a good example of this but it has too much bass...as you have mentioned.I hope they make Hydro-Hm 20 tuning in the future with the technicalities of the Hydro..
I watched at 2x speed because I was excited about this iem, it really seems disruptive.
I would like to hear every reviewer answer this question: truthear nova Vs cca hydro... I think the tables have turned
I will make this comparison 👌
That would be great! If you have time and want to of course
Throw in the Myer Audio CKLVX D41 while you're at it please. I'm wondering how they compare. I'm buying one of them. Hey, I was wondering if you have any links that you get a sales commission? I'll use them if you have any. You should be an IEM salesman. You do the best job I've seen from the dozen reviewers I've watched over the last 3 years.
I get a bit confused with the explnations on switches and how they're represented in squig link... It's even harder because they're not simetrical when using them. You have the "On" direction and the numbers (1,2,3,4) direction on the switches themselves. Which correspondes to "U" and "D" or "1" and "0"? Just to be sure.
U=1=on
D=0=off
I set my Hydro at UUUD. My preference.
Akros you should do an IEM ranking tier list
AndyAudioVault has one on his Google Drive...pretty comprehensive. Also for dongles. I found it quite helpful.
Did you see the P8 issue on PW's video? Apparently it behaves non-linearly depending on load and on lower volumes there is a huge 6kHz peak which is invisible under standard 711 measuring 100ish+ dB volume, wonder if it was just his unit or a general issue
It was a tour unit and so didn't have a ton of time with it. When Tony tells me that I need more time with a set, he is usually right.
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Hey I'm interested in your recommendations for a set of IEMS priced under ~$50. I'm seeking an iem with fun technical abilities, delivering a balanced neutral sound that is still an enjoyable listening experience. While I appreciate dynamic sound, I'm not looking for something overly bass-heavy. I primarily enjoy jazz, funk, and blues, so detail to discern all instruments is important to me. Thank you!
I can push budget a little if you think really makes sense for the kind of earbud I'm looking for.
Bands like scary pockets and Cory Wong for example.
Hey man Akros, I'm curious is it technically competent, on par with the techs of the Nicehck F1 Pro planar or even Simgot EA500lm?
To be honest the area where I think it might be slightly behind the LM is in driver coherence after all it's 10 drivers Vs single DD
As for F1 it's very very good also.
The reality all three are highly competent, trading blows and being very close....there is no clear winner in my opinion.
@@akros9333How about the soundstage how is it? Does it surpass the 100$ average soundstage category? Is it on par with like the Nicheck f1 Pro soundstage? Cause i know Planar have wide soundstage.
Hey my budget is around $40. I'm currently confused between kz ks10 pro2, simgot ew200, blon x hbb z300 and kz x hbb pr2. Or should spend extra $10 for delci? What do you recommend?
I like punchy bass without affecting vocals. wide sound stage and good layering are also important factors.
Well you have some good sets there.
All depends on what you listen too
I would say Hbb PR2 forget it
Hbb Z300 good but not on the same level as the rest, EW200 is excellent, ZS 10 Pro2 is very impressive overall and Delci is outstanding.
I would choose Delci, EW200 and the zs10Pro 2
I have both the EW200 and the Delci and I have reviewed both at Head-fi as Infinite Jester. Both are very good sets. The EW200 is more bright and requires a little bit of EQ to achieve its best sound. If you are not going to EQ it, I would go for the Delci. In general, I think that Delci is the superior IEM of the two.
@@akros9333Thanks man. Also watched your previous video about cca rhapsody. What do you recommend between rhapsody, zs10 pro 2 and delci ?
Are the tuning switchs advantageous over delci as i can change depending upon mood?
And what about resolution, soundstage, imaging and layering capacity?
Also i'll be using a portable dac/amp.
i guess this is just a nitpick at this point...
But i think CCA/KZ would've really hit it out of the ballpark if they went all out and made a specific shell design for the Hydro, to really make that "flagship" statement, to set it apart.
...Tony, you just gave me a reason to reconsider KZ/CCA again; hehehe...
In house economies of scale. Seems all KZ and CCA models follow a common shell/faceplate approach, which I assume leverages their in house manufacturing and QA processes. A deviation from their design philosophy would imply increased pricing. For an IEM with 2DD's and 8 BA's...not sure the brand would fair well at a $150+ price positioning. Also, an alloy shell design of this size would make for a pretty weighty IEM, considering the number of drivers packed inside. As it stands, the overall quality of the Hydro is quite nice, imo.
@@jb678901 Very good point.
Actually, I noticed that other brands also seem to be going for that in-house look. ZiiGaat, except for the Nuo and Cinno, has been consistent with the "sparkly details" with their releases. 7Hz recent releases are starting to show a certain signature-look, as well.
I don't really mind it, if this is what it takes for consistent build quality and keep IEMs affordable for us mere financial mortals. In the end, it's all about the performance of the product.
Please, remember me how the tips you use are called. Thanks.
The tips I use are KBEar 07
Hi @Akros
Help me pick the best, most rumbly, budget BASSHEAD IEM from the following ones:
1) Kbear Rosefinch
2) KZ ESX
3) Truthear ZERO (Blue)
4) QKZ Hades
5) Castor Bass
My picks are:
Rosefinch and Castor..... With the Castor perhaps being the better one since the mids and highs are very well done on the Castor
@@akros9333 these two have the most amount of bass and rumble?
@@akros9333 Is castor responsive enough to DAC based amplification? My DQ6 and ESX are quite responsive & reach crazy levels of bass with DAC based bass amplification. Not sure how will Castor fare against them...
@@akros9333 Rosefinch has great mids and treble too after you remove the filters and use a bit of foam in the nozzles. I vote for Rosefinch.
I have the hades, it's muddy as hell.
125 bucks......for an iem like this? Whaaaaaaa
Im so stuck in between getting an isn, penon, tansio or sound rhyme. Im wanting to stick to the $600 range. Im more of a bass head and someone who listens to metal.
Depends on what you prefer sound wise. I like a meaty sound with good bass quantity & quantity, warm mids, and not overly aggressive upper mids & treble. I mainly listen to metal (classic, black, death, and prog), classic rock, new wave (cure, depeche mode, morrissey, new order), and more experimental/harsh electronic (aphex twin, autechre, pan sonic, ryoji ikeda). I really like OG Yanyin Canon and TSMR X for quality and flexibility of sound (due to tuning switches that really work). I also really like ISN NEO 5 and Penon Serial if I'm looking for an even more relaxed but still high quantity listen. Hope that helps!
@@nmatheisThank you! I never saw your message for some reason. My favorite iem for metal right now is the bgvp dma. I also have ordered the GS audio SC9 which there is absolutely no reviews of. Next I was looking at the leisurely audio l8s. There is to many options!!!
@@roguegorilla8981 Definitely many options these days compared to when I got into the hobby and you chose between Shure and Westone to pair up with your Karma Rio or Minidisc player 🤓
CCA has surpassed KZ in quality
Hello Bro
KZ Symphony VS CCA Hydro
Which iem has better sound quality and can deliver sensational experience when we are watching Action Movies ?
Thanks Bro 🙏
Bro easily go for CCA hydro
Trio, Rhapsody... Is this Hydro so bad that you compare it to $20? Does he really have no chance in comparison with popular models in the price category from 100 to 200 $? Pula/d41/sl41? Where are these comparisons? It would be more relevant if you think about it. Or is this the case when thinking and comparing is forbidden? A very strange review.
He compared it all the way up to performer 8 but clearly you didn't watch the video lol
@@randynguyen6402I've heard about the performer 8, but this is a weak indicator, the model is not the most successful. Unfortunately, there are no time points and descriptions for the video again. Automatic translation does not convey this specific speech very well. In any case, there are relevant comparisons for this price category with the d41/sl41
@@Ch1versit's a great indicator as the p8 is largely a well reviewed technical set and was definitely not unsuccessful. It was a great comparison to see how well the hydro stacked up to something higher end. and I said up to, there were more sets that he compared it to. You can be upset that he didn't compare it to the d41 but
you didnt even watch the video so don't bs and say he didn't compare it to anything 100$+ when you have no idea what he compared it to other than p8 after I told you lol
@@randynguyen6402p8 is mediocre and not so well received at all in the community. Which community are you referring to? Budget reddit community where people usually spend less than 500$ lol
Ugh, just when I bought almost every single new $50+ IEM from KZ and CCA since PR3, I cannot afford these. I'm sad, but also hype! Sype(?)