Close friend of mines father had stage 4 prostate cancer with bone metastasis. He was told he was done. He is a veterinarian and had read about fenbendazole being used for cancer. Chemo did nothing for him so he decided to try it. He has NO DETECTABLE CANCER now. It cured his cancer. That drug and a lot of prayer saved his life.
I have invasive breast cancer. During 6 months on chemo and targeted therapy my two cancer markers doubled. Had a lumpectomy and level 1 node dissection. Surgical pathology showed no clear margins. I’ll have a bilateral mastectomy in 3 days. I began taking fenbendazole after the lumpectomy and the doubled cancer markers. Within 6 weeks they went down 18% and 16%. I’m also eating a strict keto diet and taking hormone blockers. I don’t know for sure if the fenbendazole is the reason for the decrease in the markers but I’m not stopping it.
Thank you for your feedback 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I've tried to reply on another comment, but within one minute, they've all been.... well, you know. I'm so glad you've had a positive outcome thus far! I've read that this has been fairly effective for numerous people as well.
@@welanduzfullo8496 Well you're a bundle of joy. I was stage 3 breast cancer and cured it without chemo or hormone therapy. Fenben, fasting, therapeutic keto, sunlight, grounding, a rife machine and emotional release cured me. Yup, my choice!
I remember the story of Joe Tippins using Fenbendazol for his cancer because his buddy was a researcher at a dog medication company. The researcher said it was eliminating tumors in mice. So he was like "heck, I have nothing to lose". Whether it was the medication, or a miracle, his terminal cancer disappeared very quickly.
@@mark2073please can you divulge the combo therapy dosages? Or is there a person to follow o. Utube that will explains this. Also I'm hearing that combining with methylene blue and these 2 are helpful. Many thanks .( I have yet another relative with pancreatic stomach cancer).
The only way to know if Ivermectin and Fenbendazole can be repurposed for cancer treatment, either by themselves or in combination with other drugs, is to study them. _No arguments other than evidence matters._ Skepticism is good, but making a conclusion based strictly on skepticism without adequate evidence is premature. People tend to think in binary patterns, true or false, but this ignores our ignorance. *_UNKNOWN IS NOT EQUAL TO FALSE._*
There have been positive studies and trials, both in the past and currently ongoing. Search PubMed using cancer and IVM or Fenbendazole/Mebendazole (human version) as the subject.
@quantumac You're totally looking at the problem in the wrong context. You're assuming a zero-sum situation where it's Ivermectin and Fenbendazole v.s. no treatment or placebo. Rather than these unproven likely homeopathic therapies (due lack of bioplausibility) v.s. real cancer therapies who have passed randomized control studies; who may have an adverse toxicity when in combination with said Ivermectin and Fenbendazole. No one including Prasad is saying you shouldn't run more studies on the subject but as a practicing doctor he cannot endorse such a therapy when known good alternatives exist. That's where the skepticism and critical thinking come into play. If for some reason a patient had a cancer that was totally intractable to all known therapies then sure, go for it, because you have nothing to lose at that point. But that's not what we're talking here.
@@welanduzfullo8496 but when it does, then we see how great your remark is. Of course there are many times more fringe ideas than establishment ideas, therefore one should expect many more to go wrong. When it does go wrong, we have as example, introduction of the idea that we should put dogs to a line up of schoolkids against the wall to sniff. They lied and said it was to sniff shoes. However, if you look at the dog training videos, the scent is put at butt height, not floor...and if it were truly about shoes, which is ridiculous, the kids could take off their shoes for the dog to inspect. And ridiculous because we saw what they were doing in China with the super long swabs and the bent over subjects. That is where they checked for covid. That is where the dogs would have been targeting, naturally. OF COURSE. That is one example of your trouble with logic and honesty.
Remember when the fringe doctors warned us and they were right? I'm not sure we should take advice from people who were wrong and are still labeling other doctors as fringe. Credibility can take so long to achieve and can be lost forever so quickly. People should learn from the past and remember that.
Yes, and observe how Vinay cheats his listeners in this video by complicating the question of effectiveness of the 2 drugs with stuff like "doctors don't want you to know about". That is real scumbag action on his part. HE KNOWS BETTER than to pull that kind of argumentation trick if he's being honest, which he is NOT, in this video. NOT honest. Deceptive.
Fighting cancer, reducing cancers, or reducing number of cancers, is not the same as eliminating cancer. Why did Vinay employ this type of logical trickery today?
I thought the new medical standard for approval of a drug was to just proclaim it’s “safe and effective!” and force people to take it or lose their job. I am looking forward to the accountability about to be handed out.
My good friend had gotten skin cancer. She had so many horrible things happen by doctors when she got sick years ago, that she refused to have treatment by oncologistx. She put ivermectin paste on the cancer site and the cancer was cured. Her doctor was shocked and asked what she did. She did not have any other meds except IVM and tylenol years before.
Prof Prasad, as an authority on Cancer, we eagerly await your assessment of the recent paper by Prof Thomas Seyfried et al on treating cancer by starving it of Glucose and suppressing Glutamine, the only two fuels it can use. This could be a Semmelweis Moment and your contribution could be life changing (and life saving).
Paradigmatic question - if the placebo effect actually works sometimes, and the risk profile of an anti-parasitic drug is super low (like an aspirin), and the doctor doesn’t make empty promises to their patient…. Why not try it?
The placebo effect is real and might be helpful on softer endpoints like depression or pain - patient assessed outcomes….so wouldn’t be crazy in the absence of effective therapy. No way an aspirin causes your acute leukemia to go into remission.
Part of the issue could be that “sometimes” piece. Most people (especially practitioners) would probably not be comfortable deliberately hoping the placebo effect works because time can be a very important factor and you don’t want to have to deal with cancer that’s harder to treat or untreatable because the placebo effect didn’t work this time. Sure, non-placebo treatments also have a risk of not working. But the difference is that you expect your actions to do something inside the patient’s body to hopefully beat back the cancer and / or save their life. With the placebo route, you’re knowingly doing things you don’t expect to do anything in the patient except hopefully maybe inspire some good vibes.
People have used “fringe” products and have had desirable outcomes. On the other hand there have been people who have done all the standard treatments and had terrible outcomes. Although considered “just anecdotal,” it’s not nothing. Outcomes are outcomes.
Me too. And listen to Dr Mikolaz Raszek ex CEO of genome sequencing company Merogenomics, from Canada, who is the best on this topic. More nuanced, more even minded and way ahead of most scientists on this topic.
I'm definitely going to have to challenge your dismissal of ivermectin. On a Dr. John Campbell video from a few months back, he reviewed the findings of a large Chinese medical/scientific study demonstrating the efficacy of ivermectin. Perhaps you need to look into this before dismissing ivermection. If you want the link, I'll send it.
@@karenkaren3189 For now I would go with Prasad as well, but it's disturbing the automatic dismissal of new information based on old information. That's not very scientific to me. And I understand we can't just throw limited resources on any wild claims out there. But yeah, I am guilty of being in one of the side that is broken in this whole broken system.
@@karenkaren3189 yup. We live in a word where someone like Dr Prasad could say this on twitter and a bunch of idiots with blue checkmarks with no real background in research can respond and try and convince the general public they're wrong. It's wild.
@@karenkaren3189 I agree that Prasad should know more, but while Cambell is a nurse he also has a PHd and has written more than one text on physiology so he isn't a typical nurse. He has also interviewed some notable doctors so shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand just because he is a nurse. (BTW, I've seen many nurses I would trust more to treat illnesses than many doctors so I am in no way putting nurses down. Unfortunately I have also seen a few that I wouldn't trust to take my temperature.)
I’m taking both of them now + be on keto diet. I have breast cancer. My whole body was aching after biopsy on my tumor. I think all the eggs spread to my whole body. Then I found out about fenben and iver. The aching went away around 2 weeks of taking them. During the first week, I had very bad pain on the tumor (very sharp pain), I woke up from it. I knew it then these medication killed the tumor. After that night, no more pain on the tumor.
The Tippens Protocol, using Fenbendazole AND specific supplements at the same time, deserves a double-blind research study. It is supposed to be enhanced by using ivermectin with it. The mechanism of action of the Fenbendazole is suppose to be depriving the cancer of sugar.
When I CBD gummies for a year it somehow healed my brain of the two rare strokes that I had 4 years prior, Stanford couldn’t explain it. My SF dentist was the one who figured it out.
I know a woman in her 50s who has been surviving with terminal cancer for over 17 years. Once a year, when the cancer begins to return, she flies to Australia where there is a seventh day Adventist clinic that advocates and supports long fasting. I’m talking like two-three weeks without food. The cancer becomes starved and goes into complete remission and that remission will usually last for at least 12 months before she has to do it again and she’s been doing this for 17 years. You will not find such a protocol in any main strain, medical practice, and that’s the problem. Had she followed the main stream medical advice, she would’ve been dead a long time ago. She was repeatedly only given six months, even with chemo and radiation treatments. That’s why she decided to go a different “fringe” route when she was staring death in the face even with chemo and radiation.
Dr. Prasad, thank you for making an effort to reduce cursing in your videos. I like to listen with my young/preteen/teen kids around and I think it’s valuable for the older ones to listen to these types of discussions when they’re interested!
Some good points - it sounds like you could run the study on ivermectin and fenbendazole. I challenge you, as a sceptic, to run the study you describe on these drugs for cancer
Well I know a grand ma with lungcancer that took Vitamin D3 and Magnesium....the doctors did not recommend it of course ...she are now having a great life and doctors are of course confused since they said " You have not long time left ". This story does "of course" not help 100% of cancer cases but maybe gives some of them some hope and hopefully also less side effects from chemotherapie....
You’re saying that the other cancer drugs they’re taking are likely what’s responsible for the reduction in cancer instead of the IVM/FenBen, but what if IVM/FenBen are synergistic and are actually improving the efficacy of the other (standard) treatments? Could that be in the realm of possibility?
@@welanduzfullo8496 lack of evidence doesn’t mean no evidence. Its not in pharma industry’s best interest to have a cheap med replacement for expensive cancer treatments.
Let's hope the new people in charge of health keep their promises and give us studies and trials that are rooted in the deepest sincerity possible so whatever the answers are can be known, verifiable and trusted.
My partner was in the position as many are that a year of hospital treatments had failed him and his cancer was aggressive, at level 4 with a poor prognosis and no other options available but to line up for trials with an 8 week wait, he may not have made! So he thought what have I got to lose may as well try. He tried iver alongside quercetin, Curcumin, zinc and vitamin c. He prepped for the trial intake, had the scans, biopsy etc required, not accepted because they could find no cancer, he was clear in a month, how can that be explained??? In the November it was in both legs, lymphnodes, stomach according to all the tests, he was warned his chances were slim. He chose alternative treatments in January, tests in February all clear, still clear almost 2 years later.
You have a good Mom Vinney 😂. I am happy she spoke to you. More people will be able to share your videos with others as well. Special thanks to your Mom.
I’d love to see a video where you talk about which cancer drugs are the BEST and most effective for each cancer. I’d love to have more information about which ones have the best OS and with the best endpoints.
My mother was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer at 66yrs old. We went to different oncologist to get the best possible cure. They remove the infected part, chemo and radiation. It was a horrible experience for her and the family. She only live less than a year after they found out that lump. If I can bring back the time We will not go to the oncologist and just live her life what ever time left that god will gave her and she will not suffer like that. and May be she will live another 3 to 5 years more😢 Cancer will not kill you in an instant, the treatment will if your body is not strong enough and that also happen to all the cancer patients.
There are also cancer doctors (retired) who state no one should receive cancer treatment without adequate vitamin D levels in their blood. You are right about the harsh treatment of cancer treatment. "The patient died of complications from the cancer----meaning, they died from the treatment".
As a lay person, who hasn’t invested 10 of thousands of dollars into an education that teaches that chemo and radiation are the only treatments that can be used for cancer, I can say that my common sense tells me that using toxic, carcinogenic treatments for a body sick with cancer probably isn’t actually the best option.
I'd like to see you have a discussion (not debate) with John Campbell. I think he's a good guy who's trying to do what he thinks is right. I think he'd really like you. I'm curious as to how many things you would ultimately agree or disagree on.
There are a lot of people that do. They shill colloidal silver and other sham treatments. Vinay is right on do a small randomized trial, his point of 18 patients. Almost all drugs have no chance of working not just ivm; which is why he slams selinexor and boston trial every time he can. Now the fact that selinexor is still on the market while ivm can’t get a trial highlights the capture of the FDA
Why would he? He told you what he thinks. Go and find medical dr oncologists who believe it has anti cancer activity and lobby them to write proposal, apply for money, conduct different phases of preclinical and clinical trials, etc etc. If you have money and know people who do you can start lobbying...
Syatistics never count those who gave up with medical treatment and turned to alternative medicine and get well. Like my sister with MS 20 years ago, doing fine today
something to keep in mind too though - is that anecdotes are rare from those for whom whatever 'alternative treatment' did not work... particularly for diseases with fatal outcomes... It doesn't mean 'x' treatment doesn't work, only that anecdotes need to be taken with a great deal of 'salt'...
@@mark2073 would talk about to whom? When you have up with medicine, are you going back there? And if you do, is your doctor willing to report that? Come on! Did I report my COVID cases to authorities? No! Did they count in statistics? No!. From the other side of the coin, if an alternative doesn't work , it is also not clear if it was reported, but I'll assume that in last moment the patient will get to the ER or coroner. So the cause of their death is more likely to be included
One of my late sisters cancer drugs was a thousand a month. It was paid for by Medicare so she only paid $20 a month. All it did was make her so sick she gave up on treatment.
Making her sick was not all it did. It also pumped $980 into the pockets of Big-Pharma and the Healthcare-Industrial Complex. So in that sense, at least for the people at the top, the system is working just fine. 😕
Flow cytometry revealed that fenbendazole significantly induces apoptosis as well as cell cycle arrest at G2/M phase on both cells. When compared with wild-type SNU-C5 cells, 5-fluorouracil-resistant SNU-C5 cells showed reduced autophagy, increased ferroptosis and ferroptosis-augmented apoptosis, and less activation of caspase-8 and p53. These results suggest that fenbendazole may be a potential alternative treatment in 5-fluorouracil-resistant cancer cells, and the anticancer activity of fenbendazole does not require p53 in 5-fluorouracil-resistant SNU-C5 cells.
16:36 Vinay declares " I guarantee when this is done (run a phase 2) the result is zero percent, correction blah blah placebo... zero". So he declares his bias. That is good. Although all prior observational and anecdotes are inadmmisable by his standards, he has nevertheless concluded on SOME basis "I guarantee this will be shown not to work" I am paraphrasing of course. Interesting. There is no data which sheds any light on the issue of fenben or IVM, yet our host has blurted out his conclusion. Based on what? Since the safety profiles of fendben and IVM are so good, I am not convinced larger scale admixed treatment trials might not provide value. Get the sample size up in the thousands. You could add it to existing patients on sort of a case control basis. Get a big enough sample if there is a signal it might point to something. And the idea that the treatment MUST be shown with a small sample size, to work in ISOLATION of other treatment types is just weird? If they were taking eg vit D3 should they be required to stop that? If one arm of the treatment exercise more should they scale that back, in case it effects the outcome? Our host places a LOT of emphasis on a very narrow range of 'acceptable' clinical investigatory approaches. I feel this is a weakness, we got it already, your points concerning placebo controlled and randomized. As others have pointed out there is no money to be made for these drugs, so trials, in the form our host relentlessly promotes, are not done as the monies are not available. Perhaps that may change. Although even our host's gold standard can be fairly readily manipulated.
Here is an interesting paper you should read. *"Targeting the Mitochondrial-Stem Cell Connection in Cancer Treatment: A Hybrid Orthomolecular Protocol."*
@@armchairtin-kicker503 he’s not the one advocating for its use. Before you can make a claim of efficacy you have to have clinical data. I did a literature search on the subject and there are no trials that show it works. There are a couple in-vitro studies that show it works in the Petri dish but nothing to show it works in actual humans. To make the claim you have to do the research. Right now all we have are anecdotal stories of somebody’s friends grandmas sister who was cured of breast cancer. You have to have the clinical trial before you make the claim and no legitimate trial exists. That’s why he wants just 1 university to do the trial and write up the results.
@@epigeneticnerd4244 It actually is his job to convince us. That's precisely the job he accepted when he decided to make this video. Personally, I'm not convinced. I would like to see him directly critique the half-dozen or more studies that have just been published in the last few years, since the pandemic sparked renewed interest in IVM. When was the last time he looked at the literature on this? Is he even aware of these new studies? We don't know, because he didn't address it.
I have a problem with how you simply dismissed the ivermectin and febendazole works. You did not apply the standard of double blind case control study to these drugs as you apply to the experimental Big Pharma drugs. There was have been some promising cell culture stuff and there are plausible biological mechanisms whereby the two could work. So I think you need to either give us solid data to dismiss ivermectin and febendazole or not dismiss it out of hand.
@ And he dismissed ivermectin and fenbendazole out of hand. The proper answer is we need real controlled studies on ivermectin and fenbenzadole because we don't know. And to state without qualification that there is no biological mechanism for these two is just plain wrong. So he dismissed ivermectin and fenben out of hand and did not apply the same standard to them that even the FDA gives (which is really bad.)
@@epigeneticnerd4244 December 2023 after multiple tests including a bone marrow test I was diagnosed with CMMLeukemia. Due to my age (81) I can't get a treatment like a bone marrow transplant. There was nothing to treat my leukemia and the only option was to treat my anemia which had almost reach the point where I would need transfusions. The only drug was a hormone to try to stimulate my body to begin producing Red Blood Cells, a treatment that would cost me $20,000/month as it was not covered by provincial health insurance and would have a lot of horrible side effects. I started taking ivermectin. What did I have to lose? After ten months my RBC monocytes everything is now normal. I have resumed all the normal activities. I agree it could have been something else. Maybe CMML was misdiagnosed. The point is it appeared to work anecdotally and instead of simply dismissing ivermectin and fenben and declaring it doesn't work and there is no biological basis for it to work is wrong. It is as wrong as the FDA failures.
I hope your going to follow up with a long video that says what drugs and treatment actually work on which cancers. We already know we can't trust barely anyone these days! I get your frustration, but i also get you will try anything once you get a cancer diagnosis!!!
Recent studies have also found that IVM could promote the death of tumor cells by regulating the tumor microenvironment in breast cancer. Under the stimulation of a tumor microenvironment with a high level of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) outside tumor cells, IVM could enhance the P2 × 4/ P2 × 7/Pannexin-1 mediated release of high mobility group box-1 protein (HMGB1) [37]. However, the release of a large amount of HMGB1 into the extracellular environment will promote immune cell-mediated immunogenic death and inflammatory reactions, which will have an inhibitory effect on the growth of tumor cells. Therefore, we believe that the anticancer effect of IVM is not limited to cytotoxicity, but also involves the regulation of the tumor microenvironment. IVM regulates the tumor microenvironment and mediates immunogenic cell death, which may be a new direction for research exploring anticancer mechanisms in the future.
Triple-negative breast cancer (TNBC) refers to cancer that is negative for estrogen receptor, progesterone receptor, and human epidermal growth factor receptor 2(HER2) and is the most aggressive subtype of breast cancer with the worst prognosis. In addition, there is also no clinically applicable therapeutic drug currently [34,35]. A drug screening study of TNBC showed that IVM could be used as a SIN3-interaction domain (SID) mimic to selectively block the interaction between SID and paired a-helix2. In addition, IVM regulated the expression of the epithelial mesenchymal-transition (EMT) related gene E-cadherin to restore the sensitivity of TNBC cells to tamoxifen, which implies the possibility that IVM functions as an epigenetic regulator in the treatment of cancer[36]
What's your opinion on the mitochondria-stem cell hypothesis of cancer? It states that mitochondrial dysfunction is the proximate cause to cancers and leads to somatic cell mutations through the production of oxide radicals. It Is marked by fermentation of glutamate and sugar. It would be great if you assess this hypothesis.
I've always told Dr.Vinay how much I enjoy his opinions and his work. I'm happy to hear of an effort to reduce the cussing. It is more impressive to sound more professional. For some reason I suspect he will have a major change of opinion soon/paradigm change of some sort.
@@skinnybricksMany patients do both - conventional standards of care and off label protocols. Jobs tried a juicing diet that caused his very treatment type of cancer to become Stage IV/incurable.
Maybe if we actually really properly test these things we might know but the docs who have real patients they say some of these work. See of their patients say didn't die of covid and everyone elses did maybe we should properly test what they say not a bunch of hit job pieces to make sure something else gets emergency approval and is much more profitable
Anti-cancer and synergizing with anti-cancer drugs are 2 different things. It would not be hard to add a non-typical, relatively safe drug (ivermectin or febendazole) given with anti-cancer drug and compare the 2 arms. Sometimes anecdotes can give insight into things that may work but we don't know why. It wouldn't hurt to try it out with standard care.
Can you cover Jane McLelland cancer treatment and the large amount of doctors that are using it. as well as Dr. Thomas Seyfried there are a large amount of people that have used these medical treatments.
Appreciate your opinions. Balanced assessment. Can feel your frustration! Don’t know how anyone in US can afford any medical treatment. How did things become so extreme?
You don't always need double blind studies for everything. If 10 people eat deadly mushrooms and die, you won't ask for a double blind study. Vinay, your're great but you have changed your mind on many things.
@@nenadjovanovic3309 if 10 consecutive people died eating a mushroom and it was written up in a journal, that would constitute evidence. You don’t have to have proof to change your mind, but you do have to at least have evidence.
I don't think they are saying Ivm us a real cancer treatment. I think they were saying that there actually maybe parasites in the body that they are finding more iften and by giving ivm, it gets rid the parasites that they didn't know they had. Which then helps them fight the cancer. Also that the ivm may have anti-inflammatory properties. Also helping.
It has nothing to do with parasites, it has to do with blocking the fuel that cancer uses to grow. What Vinay is missing is the whole story, you need to do a strict metabolic diet in ADDITION to IVM and Fenbendazole, which interrupts cancers secondary source of fuel -fuel from fermentation. ua-cam.com/video/a6bqSMOMQN0/v-deo.htmlsi=1MwDWkT6YvHCnttd
The only study I've seen indicated that ivermectin taken in conjunction with other cancer therapies (specifically chemo, if I remember right) enhanced the anti-cancer affects of those other drugs.
I have so many anecdotal stories such as my cousin who had a large portion of her bowel removed for colon cancer, refused chemotherapy and Radiation 25 years ago and is still healthy today.
My sister, too. She had a large tumor removed from her colon 22 years ago. They told her it was Stage 4. She refused chemo and radiation and instead chose to do an extended juice fast. She kept it up for 9 months and turned orange from all the carrots, lol. A year and a half after her surgery, she gave birth to twins. Still alive and cancer free today. I'm glad to hear your cousin is well!
@5:15 You know why these meds are not being tested in large medical trials right? They're cheap. So there's no money in teasing out when they work and when they don't. Also, for most people, iver and fenben would be best along with the other treatments. They're not as effective in a really fast growing cancer, imho. But in the US doctors have such a bad attitude towards patients and patient needs. It's all my way or the highway 🙄. Anyway, love your community of viewers. The comments are everything!❤
😂 I'm cracking up about your mom. I appreciate the less cussing, because I have young kids always snooping in on what I am watching/ listening to, and they're very curios and like to learn, so I like to have them listen in, but it's harder with the cussing. Thanks for all your hard work and open honesty about these things. You've been an amazing asset these last years.
I could definitely design a study that, by the standard that modern FDA, is suitable for approval that shows that ivermectin shrinks cancer. That's not an endorsement of ivermectin as cancer treatment but rather a condemnation of FDA's standards.
@@epigeneticnerd4244 He doesn’t believe Ivermectin or Fenbendazole works for cancer or Covid. Many doctors have had excellent results using these drugs in their protocols. He is calling them fringe doctors.
I have a friend who has prostate cancer. He refused prostatectomy and is doing hormone tx but is also taking ivermectin. PSA significantly came down so he assumed it was all d/t ivermectin and now is touting the miracles. Not sure if there is any benefit related or maybe just the hormone TX is effective but I guess if you are desperate you will take anything. I can empathize and if it’s not harming someone what do you have to lose except false hope.
Parasitic infections are a lot more common than people think and can cause cancer themselves, as well as cancer making one more susceptible to new infestations. So why not give a safe anthelminthic as a precautionary treatment in the way that antibiotic are often prescribed for people with viral infection who are at greater risk for bacterial pneumonia? That's ignoring the flimsy basis for direct effect you are using to dismiss these treatments.
I would appreciate your views on Dr. Thomas Seyfried’s dietary approach to depriving cancer cells of glucose and glutamine. This seems intuitive and dates back to Otto Warburg’s work from the early 20th century.
@@marksutton5540 That's exactly what's happening! I take a screenshot of my comments, then go back to check if they're still there. Most of the time, they're REMOVED, but it's not by me
Monoclonal antibodies are the rage. I’ve been prescribed a several different proteins of this ilk. Given the often disappointing results, I’m starting to suspect that this class of drugs isn’t well understood and/or the model practitioners follow to prescribe these meds is, if not flawed, far from ideal. What is the state of monoclonal antibody science in terms of mechanism of action and efficacy?
Disease X in the DRC turned out to be malaria in malnourished victims ( who coincidentally test covid positive). Since hydroxycloroquin (sp?) and nutrition are the solution, this panic drama has disappeared from headlines.
Regarding IVM, the words you used are "believe", "think", and "probably", which means...you don't know. Yes, a randomized trial, we understand it's your fundamental element for a useful drug. BUT, it needs money, it needs support, sometimes it needs authorization, and I believe you know there was an active agency rejection of IVM. Don't you think that's suspicious? Could that be happening yet? Maybe you can talk about it during the debate.
I'm a fan of Dr.Thomas Seyfried and his metabolic cancer treatment. Cancer thrives on only two fuels: glucose and glutamate. He limits glucose with a low-carb diet and limits glutamate with a drug that inhibits its synthesis. The cancer starves. And patients don't puke or lose their hair. This treatment isn't specifically a drug, but I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
I really like Dr Prasad's content, very informative, plus he reminds me a bit of Quintin Tarantino in the way he talks, his voice, even the swearing is very Tarantino-esque.
Vinay, I urge you not to listen to the push back in the comments. Just like you say in the video, there are lunatics on both sides here. I think this perspective is spot on - there are a lot of crazies pushing weird treatments that make no sense, both inside and outside the establishment. Frankly, both deserve equal amounts of ridicule. Who does not deserve ridicule are the patients who fall for either type of pseudoscience.
Close friend of mines father had stage 4 prostate cancer with bone metastasis. He was told he was done. He is a veterinarian and had read about fenbendazole being used for cancer. Chemo did nothing for him so he decided to try it. He has NO DETECTABLE CANCER now. It cured his cancer. That drug and a lot of prayer saved his life.
Would he be willing to speak with me? I practice alternative medicine and interested in hearing his strategy
Can you send me more infor also?
Do you know how often he used it?
I will find out his exact protocol
My aunt got diagnosed with colon cancer. I would love to know his protocol as well.@@chrishenry5945
I have invasive breast cancer. During 6 months on chemo and targeted therapy my two cancer markers doubled. Had a lumpectomy and level 1 node dissection. Surgical pathology showed no clear margins. I’ll have a bilateral mastectomy in 3 days.
I began taking fenbendazole after the lumpectomy and the doubled cancer markers. Within 6 weeks they went down 18% and 16%. I’m also eating a strict keto diet and taking hormone blockers. I don’t know for sure if the fenbendazole is the reason for the decrease in the markers but I’m not stopping it.
Thank you for your feedback 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I've tried to reply on another comment, but within one minute, they've all been.... well, you know.
I'm so glad you've had a positive outcome thus far! I've read that this has been fairly effective for numerous people as well.
Best Wishes💐
wish you the best, but keto and the fen probably did zero of that. Still your choice at the end of the day 🫠
@@welanduzfullo8496 Well you're a bundle of joy. I was stage 3 breast cancer and cured it without chemo or hormone therapy. Fenben, fasting, therapeutic keto, sunlight, grounding, a rife machine and emotional release cured me. Yup, my choice!
Take IVM as well. Very promising for breast cancer
I remember the story of Joe Tippins using Fenbendazol for his cancer because his buddy was a researcher at a dog medication company. The researcher said it was eliminating tumors in mice. So he was like "heck, I have nothing to lose". Whether it was the medication, or a miracle, his terminal cancer disappeared very quickly.
And his success has been duplicated by hundreds of thousands of people. Including me, right now.
@@mark2073 Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
Please tell us if the drug will cure your cancer@@mark2073
@@mark2073please can you divulge the combo therapy dosages? Or is there a person to follow o. Utube that will explains this. Also I'm hearing that combining with methylene blue and these 2 are helpful.
Many thanks .( I have yet another relative with pancreatic stomach cancer).
We are living in an extraordinary era. Many eyes are opening. ❤
The only way to know if Ivermectin and Fenbendazole can be repurposed for cancer treatment, either by themselves or in combination with other drugs, is to study them. _No arguments other than evidence matters._ Skepticism is good, but making a conclusion based strictly on skepticism without adequate evidence is premature. People tend to think in binary patterns, true or false, but this ignores our ignorance. *_UNKNOWN IS NOT EQUAL TO FALSE._*
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Thank you for these words - I agree wholeheartedly, because that's exactly how it is.
There have been positive studies and trials, both in the past and currently ongoing. Search PubMed using cancer and IVM or Fenbendazole/Mebendazole (human version) as the subject.
But similar to the ban of ivermectin early on in the covid catastrophe, if the risk is zero, why not?
@quantumac You're totally looking at the problem in the wrong context. You're assuming a zero-sum situation where it's Ivermectin and Fenbendazole v.s. no treatment or placebo. Rather than these unproven likely homeopathic therapies (due lack of bioplausibility) v.s. real cancer therapies who have passed randomized control studies; who may have an adverse toxicity when in combination with said Ivermectin and Fenbendazole. No one including Prasad is saying you shouldn't run more studies on the subject but as a practicing doctor he cannot endorse such a therapy when known good alternatives exist. That's where the skepticism and critical thinking come into play. If for some reason a patient had a cancer that was totally intractable to all known therapies then sure, go for it, because you have nothing to lose at that point. But that's not what we're talking here.
Trust the establishment, not the "fringe." What could go wrong?
very little goes wrong compared to the fringe lol
@welanduzfullo8496 says the guy who still believes the wet market nonsense...lol
@@welanduzfullo8496 but when it does, then we see how great your remark is. Of course there are many times more fringe ideas than establishment ideas, therefore one should expect many more to go wrong.
When it does go wrong, we have as example, introduction of the idea that we should put dogs to a line up of schoolkids against the wall to sniff. They lied and said it was to sniff shoes. However, if you look at the dog training videos, the scent is put at butt height, not floor...and if it were truly about shoes, which is ridiculous, the kids could take off their shoes for the dog to inspect. And ridiculous because we saw what they were doing in China with the super long swabs and the bent over subjects. That is where they checked for covid. That is where the dogs would have been targeting, naturally.
OF COURSE.
That is one example of your trouble with logic and honesty.
@@welanduzfullo8496yeah the way handled was Covid was very little
@@welanduzfullo8496 400,000 people die from medical errors in the US every year
Remember when the fringe doctors warned us and they were right? I'm not sure we should take advice from people who were wrong and are still labeling other doctors as fringe. Credibility can take so long to achieve and can be lost forever so quickly. People should learn from the past and remember that.
Spot on 🤗💪
Agreed!
Yes, and observe how Vinay cheats his listeners in this video by complicating the question of effectiveness of the 2 drugs with stuff like "doctors don't want you to know about".
That is real scumbag action on his part. HE KNOWS BETTER than to pull that kind of argumentation trick if he's being honest, which he is NOT, in this video. NOT honest. Deceptive.
ZDogg values scumbaggery by Vinay. Very disappointing.
Fighting cancer, reducing cancers, or reducing number of cancers, is not the same as eliminating cancer. Why did Vinay employ this type of logical trickery today?
I thought the new medical standard for approval of a drug was to just proclaim it’s “safe and effective!” and force people to take it or lose their job. I am looking forward to the accountability about to be handed out.
... And, what kind of studies did those have to go through to prove their merit?
@@flavellinator Rigged studies partially reported to conceal damage?
The protocol for drugs that actually might be safe and work is to ban them and rig studies.
My good friend had gotten skin cancer. She had so many horrible things happen by doctors when she got sick years ago, that she refused to have treatment by oncologistx. She put ivermectin paste on the cancer site and the cancer was cured. Her doctor was shocked and asked what she did. She did not have any other meds except IVM and tylenol years before.
regression fallacy 😂
My friend same. Used tin for a skin thing
Well that solves it then! Guess it's effective! Case closed
Thanks for sharing this story. There are certainly enough like this to warrant a genuine effort to understand it more and say more definitely.
What type of cancer? What did the biopsy report say?
Prof Prasad, as an authority on Cancer, we eagerly await your assessment of the recent paper by Prof Thomas Seyfried et al on treating cancer by starving it of Glucose and suppressing Glutamine, the only two fuels it can use. This could be a Semmelweis Moment and your contribution could be life changing (and life saving).
no
Prasad is one authority. There are many other authorities who have different opinions.
@@janinepera8338 it all depends which are trustworthy and not payed off by Big Pharma
@@welanduzfullo8496 Meaning?
@janinepera8338 only if the other “authorities” are trustworthy and not payed off by vested interests.
Paradigmatic question - if the placebo effect actually works sometimes, and the risk profile of an anti-parasitic drug is super low (like an aspirin), and the doctor doesn’t make empty promises to their patient…. Why not try it?
The placebo effect is real and might be helpful on softer endpoints like depression or pain - patient assessed outcomes….so wouldn’t be crazy in the absence of effective therapy. No way an aspirin causes your acute leukemia to go into remission.
Part of the issue could be that “sometimes” piece. Most people (especially practitioners) would probably not be comfortable deliberately hoping the placebo effect works because time can be a very important factor and you don’t want to have to deal with cancer that’s harder to treat or untreatable because the placebo effect didn’t work this time.
Sure, non-placebo treatments also have a risk of not working. But the difference is that you expect your actions to do something inside the patient’s body to hopefully beat back the cancer and / or save their life. With the placebo route, you’re knowingly doing things you don’t expect to do anything in the patient except hopefully maybe inspire some good vibes.
It's delaying treatment that's the problem
@@luvmechanix Not necessarily, I am on both iver and fenben, they are in addition to the immunotherapy, they are parallel not exclusive
@@luvmechanixexcept those “treatments” often don’t cure, they extend life 3-20 months with a nasty amount t of side effects.
People have used “fringe” products and have had desirable outcomes. On the other hand there have been people who have done all the standard treatments and had terrible outcomes. Although considered “just anecdotal,” it’s not nothing. Outcomes are outcomes.
no
I agree.
Agree
@@welanduzfullo8496 "no". Wrong. Fringe ideas that are successful can become mainstream, so we can discount your sellout foolishness JUST that easily.
I respect Vinny but he needs to stop with the "fringe" perjorative.
One can always take refuge in a Presidential pardon if you push a treatment that goes utterly and horribly wrong.
Thomas Seyfried has done extensive cancer research. His view makes so much sense to me.
Me too. And listen to Dr Mikolaz Raszek ex CEO of genome sequencing company Merogenomics, from Canada, who is the best on this topic. More nuanced, more even minded and way ahead of most scientists on this topic.
I'm definitely going to have to challenge your dismissal of ivermectin. On a Dr. John Campbell video from a few months back, he reviewed the findings of a large Chinese medical/scientific study demonstrating the efficacy of ivermectin. Perhaps you need to look into this before dismissing ivermection.
If you want the link, I'll send it.
Exactly 👍
Campbell is a nurse, Prasad is an oncologist so I will go with his judgment
Retired Nurse
@@karenkaren3189 For now I would go with Prasad as well, but it's disturbing the automatic dismissal of new information based on old information. That's not very scientific to me. And I understand we can't just throw limited resources on any wild claims out there. But yeah, I am guilty of being in one of the side that is broken in this whole broken system.
@@karenkaren3189 yup. We live in a word where someone like Dr Prasad could say this on twitter and a bunch of idiots with blue checkmarks with no real background in research can respond and try and convince the general public they're wrong. It's wild.
@@karenkaren3189 I agree that Prasad should know more, but while Cambell is a nurse he also has a PHd and has written more than one text on physiology so he isn't a typical nurse. He has also interviewed some notable doctors so shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand just because he is a nurse. (BTW, I've seen many nurses I would trust more to treat illnesses than many doctors so I am in no way putting nurses down. Unfortunately I have also seen a few that I wouldn't trust to take my temperature.)
Remember to trust the experts when they tell you IVM doesn't work.
What if the experts lie to me because they received a paycheck into their back pocket to push a lie?
@RNG-999 That's what the fringe doctors (who were correct and paid the price), want you to think.
Yeah, the FDA called it horse paste so it must be bad
What are you some sorta shill for Merk? They make ivermectin.
@@skinnybricks And their patent expired in the 90's. Nobody's shilling for the maker of IVM.
I’m taking both of them now + be on keto diet. I have breast cancer. My whole body was aching after biopsy on my tumor. I think all the eggs spread to my whole body. Then I found out about fenben and iver. The aching went away around 2 weeks of taking them. During the first week, I had very bad pain on the tumor (very sharp pain), I woke up from it. I knew it then these medication killed the tumor. After that night, no more pain on the tumor.
@@LOADING...o.o.o di you take it daily sir? What is the dosage? Did you take it with vitamins?
Please search for msm powder supplement.... you will thank me later... it will help tremendously... ( from a certified herbalist)
How r u doing? Any tests lately ?
Back in the day I was the Oncology Nurse Educator for the manufacturer of Regorafenib - that experience made me lose the will to live.
Why
@@tammy7093 I it’s a pretty toxic molecule. I’m guessing the 55 thumbs up are from hem/oncs who have experience with it.
I'm sorry. Would you say more?
The Tippens Protocol, using Fenbendazole AND specific supplements at the same time, deserves a double-blind research study. It is supposed to be enhanced by using ivermectin with it. The mechanism of action of the Fenbendazole is suppose to be depriving the cancer of sugar.
It encourages apoptosis, which is also achieved with fasting and low carb diet.
@@Consequence Thank you.
Thank you so much for thos information both of you
Tippens used vitamin E and CBD. still alive today on that same protocol
When I CBD gummies for a year it somehow healed my brain of the two rare strokes that I had 4 years prior, Stanford couldn’t explain it. My SF dentist was the one who figured it out.
I know a woman in her 50s who has been surviving with terminal cancer for over 17 years. Once a year, when the cancer begins to return, she flies to Australia where there is a seventh day Adventist clinic that advocates and supports long fasting. I’m talking like two-three weeks without food. The cancer becomes starved and goes into complete remission and that remission will usually last for at least 12 months before she has to do it again and she’s been doing this for 17 years. You will not find such a protocol in any main strain, medical practice, and that’s the problem. Had she followed the main stream medical advice, she would’ve been dead a long time ago. She was repeatedly only given six months, even with chemo and radiation treatments. That’s why she decided to go a different “fringe” route when she was staring death in the face even with chemo and radiation.
If no food then how she was surviving?
Dr. Prasad, thank you for making an effort to reduce cursing in your videos. I like to listen with my young/preteen/teen kids around and I think it’s valuable for the older ones to listen to these types of discussions when they’re interested!
Some good points - it sounds like you could run the study on ivermectin and fenbendazole. I challenge you, as a sceptic, to run the study you describe on these drugs for cancer
then why are people being healed but these two drugs.
@@spartanbins7911 huh?
Well I know a grand ma with lungcancer that took Vitamin D3 and Magnesium....the doctors did not recommend it of course ...she are now having a great life and doctors are of course confused since they said " You have not long time left ". This story does "of course" not help 100% of cancer cases but maybe gives some of them some hope and hopefully also less side effects from chemotherapie....
You’re saying that the other cancer drugs they’re taking are likely what’s responsible for the reduction in cancer instead of the IVM/FenBen, but what if IVM/FenBen are synergistic and are actually improving the efficacy of the other (standard) treatments? Could that be in the realm of possibility?
very likely
wheres the evidence bro?
@@harman6283no
@@welanduzfullo8496 lack of evidence doesn’t mean no evidence. Its not in pharma industry’s best interest to have a cheap med replacement for expensive cancer treatments.
@weland
FLCCC.
Ok this guy is a knob. There are dozens if not hundreds of govt studies on ivm and cancer showing a positive response..
Ummm….no there aren’t
List 5
On NIH site, M Tang 2021 ivm a potential anticancer drug, L Jiang 2022 ivm inhibits tumor metastasis. Here's 2, but there are many
@rickhamilton8225 do something for yourself please
Google will even take eu there.
Let's hope the new people in charge of health keep their promises and give us studies and trials that are rooted in the deepest sincerity possible so whatever the answers are can be known, verifiable and trusted.
Big Pharma will do every thing the can to bad mouth Ivermectin !
Fenbendazole -- 3 pathways
1) tumor suppressor p53 activation
2) glucose/glutamine uptake inhibition
3) microtubule destabilizing, G2-M cell cycle arrest
My partner was in the position as many are that a year of hospital treatments had failed him and his cancer was aggressive, at level 4 with a poor prognosis and no other options available but to line up for trials with an 8 week wait, he may not have made! So he thought what have I got to lose may as well try. He tried iver alongside quercetin, Curcumin, zinc and vitamin c. He prepped for the trial intake, had the scans, biopsy etc required, not accepted because they could find no cancer, he was clear in a month, how can that be explained??? In the November it was in both legs, lymphnodes, stomach according to all the tests, he was warned his chances were slim. He chose alternative treatments in January, tests in February all clear, still clear almost 2 years later.
Wow!
Is it possible the diag was BS? and they just wanted to get him into a "successful" trial?
@@dr1johnson i see where you're coming from but too much evidence and not too many trials in our neck of the woods!
You have a good Mom Vinney 😂. I am happy she spoke to you. More people will be able to share your videos with others as well. Special thanks to your Mom.
I’d love to see a video where you talk about which cancer drugs are the BEST and most effective for each cancer. I’d love to have more information about which ones have the best OS and with the best endpoints.
And this video reminds me that Dr Prasad is still part of the establishment....
Exactly. He was very slow to see the lies during Covid. Hard to believe him now.
Exactly!!!!
My mother was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer at 66yrs old. We went to different oncologist to get the best possible cure. They remove the infected part, chemo and radiation. It was a horrible experience for her and the family.
She only live less than a year after they found out that lump. If I can bring back the time
We will not go to the oncologist and just live her life what ever time left that god will gave her and she will not suffer like that. and May be she will live another 3 to 5 years more😢
Cancer will not kill you in an instant, the treatment will if your body is not strong enough and that also happen to all the cancer patients.
Keto low carb plus IVM/Fenben could have saved her
There are also cancer doctors (retired) who state no one should receive cancer treatment without adequate vitamin D levels in their blood. You are right about the harsh treatment of cancer treatment. "The patient died of complications from the cancer----meaning, they died from the treatment".
QQQQ: Vinay? What about the now common theory that cancer is a metabolic disease and it’s once again the mitochondria?
its not, go study medicine and learn for yourself, and no its not "once again the mitochondria" 😶🌫️
Thomas Seyfried’s work that expands upon Otto Warburg’s work of 100 years earlier.
@ and? youre not going to do shit with it when it comes to cancer lol
@@welanduzfullo8496 Are you familiar with Seyfrieds work?
@@welanduzfullo8496But my wife and I are!
As a lay person, who hasn’t invested 10 of thousands of dollars into an education that teaches that chemo and radiation are the only treatments that can be used for cancer, I can say that my common sense tells me that using toxic, carcinogenic treatments for a body sick with cancer probably isn’t actually the best option.
I appreciate your passion and honesty. Thank you for taking the time to care and share 👍🏻.
Why isn't ivermectin easier to purchase, When it seems more attainable in other countries? It makes me wonder...
I buy mine at Tractor Supply and there are many places on line to buy it ! My Wife and I have been using it for 3 years .
Go to a animal feed store
@@stewartsmith1947 how r u now?? Are u cured???
IndiaMart. Simple, easy, quick, cheap.
I'd like to see you have a discussion (not debate) with John Campbell. I think he's a good guy who's trying to do what he thinks is right. I think he'd really like you.
I'm curious as to how many things you would ultimately agree or disagree on.
Nurse John is a quack
I am on your mom's side.
Thank you for not swearing.
Good job w/ the language. Respect to your Mom.
You really believe most of these people talking about alternative treatments are “trying to take advantage” of cancer patients?
Exactly ! Some doctors even give fake positive cancer results to get the money out of the fake patients ! 😢
As soon as I write messages to patients that VITAMIN C IS THE BEST ANTI-CANCER , ANTI-ALERGIC, ANTI-VIRAL THING , my hackers cut my answers !😢
There are a lot of people that do. They shill colloidal silver and other sham treatments.
Vinay is right on do a small randomized trial, his point of 18 patients.
Almost all drugs have no chance of working not just ivm; which is why he slams selinexor and boston trial every time he can.
Now the fact that selinexor is still on the market while ivm can’t get a trial highlights the capture of the FDA
I believe that the people selling them are. The people naively sharing information they heard? I think they're just mislead.
yes
Vinay, can you do a randomized study with fenbenzinol and ivermectin?
Why would he? He told you what he thinks. Go and find medical dr oncologists who believe it has anti cancer activity and lobby them to write proposal, apply for money, conduct different phases of preclinical and clinical trials, etc etc. If you have money and know people who do you can start lobbying...
Syatistics never count those who gave up with medical treatment and turned to alternative medicine and get well. Like my sister with MS 20 years ago, doing fine today
Was it with apple cider vinegar? Organic apple cider vinegar is the most potent.
@cranium565 not, I believe it was a kind of nut tincture, some other stuff too. And meat and dairy banned
something to keep in mind too though - is that anecdotes are rare from those for whom whatever 'alternative treatment' did not work... particularly for diseases with fatal outcomes...
It doesn't mean 'x' treatment doesn't work, only that anecdotes need to be taken with a great deal of 'salt'...
@sn0wchyld in that case their surviving relatives would talk about it. I'm not seeing much of that.
@@mark2073 would talk about to whom? When you have up with medicine, are you going back there? And if you do, is your doctor willing to report that? Come on! Did I report my COVID cases to authorities? No! Did they count in statistics? No!.
From the other side of the coin, if an alternative doesn't work , it is also not clear if it was reported, but I'll assume that in last moment the patient will get to the ER or coroner. So the cause of their death is more likely to be included
I appreciate your willingness to tackle these issues even when they are unpopular on one side or the other. Keep up the good work!
One of my late sisters cancer drugs was a thousand a month. It was paid for by Medicare so she only paid $20 a month. All it did was make her so sick she gave up on treatment.
Making her sick was not all it did. It also pumped $980 into the pockets of Big-Pharma and the Healthcare-Industrial Complex. So in that sense, at least for the people at the top, the system is working just fine. 😕
Flow cytometry revealed that fenbendazole significantly induces apoptosis as well as cell cycle arrest at G2/M phase on both cells. When compared with wild-type SNU-C5 cells, 5-fluorouracil-resistant SNU-C5 cells showed reduced autophagy, increased ferroptosis and ferroptosis-augmented apoptosis, and less activation of caspase-8 and p53. These results suggest that fenbendazole may be a potential alternative treatment in 5-fluorouracil-resistant cancer cells, and the anticancer activity of fenbendazole does not require p53 in 5-fluorouracil-resistant SNU-C5 cells.
16:36 Vinay declares " I guarantee when this is done (run a phase 2) the result is zero percent, correction blah blah placebo... zero".
So he declares his bias. That is good. Although all prior observational and anecdotes are inadmmisable by his standards, he has nevertheless concluded on SOME basis "I guarantee this will be shown not to work" I am paraphrasing of course.
Interesting. There is no data which sheds any light on the issue of fenben or IVM, yet our host has blurted out his conclusion. Based on what?
Since the safety profiles of fendben and IVM are so good, I am not convinced larger scale admixed treatment trials might not provide value. Get the sample size up in the thousands. You could add it to existing patients on sort of a case control basis. Get a big enough sample if there is a signal it might point to something. And the idea that the treatment MUST be shown with a small sample size, to work in ISOLATION of other treatment types is just weird? If they were taking eg vit D3 should they be required to stop that? If one arm of the treatment exercise more should they scale that back, in case it effects the outcome? Our host places a LOT of emphasis on a very narrow range of 'acceptable' clinical investigatory approaches. I feel this is a weakness, we got it already, your points concerning placebo controlled and randomized.
As others have pointed out there is no money to be made for these drugs, so trials, in the form our host relentlessly promotes, are not done as the monies are not available. Perhaps that may change. Although even our host's gold standard can be fairly readily manipulated.
Here is an interesting paper you should read. *"Targeting the Mitochondrial-Stem Cell Connection in Cancer Treatment: A Hybrid Orthomolecular Protocol."*
I think it would be interesting for you to do a collab video on this topic with Dr. John Campbell
If you are skeptical of anthelmintics, then conduct a study share your results; that's how science is done, doctor.
Word!
@@armchairtin-kicker503 he’s not the one advocating for its use. Before you can make a claim of efficacy you have to have clinical data. I did a literature search on the subject and there are no trials that show it works. There are a couple in-vitro studies that show it works in the Petri dish but nothing to show it works in actual humans. To make the claim you have to do the research. Right now all we have are anecdotal stories of somebody’s friends grandmas sister who was cured of breast cancer. You have to have the clinical trial before you make the claim and no legitimate trial exists. That’s why he wants just 1 university to do the trial and write up the results.
They are so effective that he will have astounding results in only a couple months with only 20 participants.
He’s saying YOU guys do it, if you want to convince him. It’s not his job to convince you.
@@epigeneticnerd4244 It actually is his job to convince us. That's precisely the job he accepted when he decided to make this video. Personally, I'm not convinced. I would like to see him directly critique the half-dozen or more studies that have just been published in the last few years, since the pandemic sparked renewed interest in IVM. When was the last time he looked at the literature on this? Is he even aware of these new studies? We don't know, because he didn't address it.
I have a problem with how you simply dismissed the ivermectin and febendazole works. You did not apply the standard of double blind case control study to these drugs as you apply to the experimental Big Pharma drugs. There was have been some promising cell culture stuff and there are plausible biological mechanisms whereby the two could work. So I think you need to either give us solid data to dismiss ivermectin and febendazole or not dismiss it out of hand.
Amazing that someone could be so clueless. The evidence of their efficacy is overwhelming. I was quite disappointed with this video.
Did you actually listen to the video? He criticized the FDA for approving drugs without proper study.
@@epigeneticnerd4244 but not these ones apparently
@ And he dismissed ivermectin and fenbendazole out of hand. The proper answer is we need real controlled studies on ivermectin and fenbenzadole because we don't know. And to state without qualification that there is no biological mechanism for these two is just plain wrong. So he dismissed ivermectin and fenben out of hand and did not apply the same standard to them that even the FDA gives (which is really bad.)
@@epigeneticnerd4244 December 2023 after multiple tests including a bone marrow test I was diagnosed with CMMLeukemia. Due to my age (81) I can't get a treatment like a bone marrow transplant. There was nothing to treat my leukemia and the only option was to treat my anemia which had almost reach the point where I would need transfusions. The only drug was a hormone to try to stimulate my body to begin producing Red Blood Cells, a treatment that would cost me $20,000/month as it was not covered by provincial health insurance and would have a lot of horrible side effects. I started taking ivermectin. What did I have to lose? After ten months my RBC monocytes everything is now normal. I have resumed all the normal activities. I agree it could have been something else. Maybe CMML was misdiagnosed. The point is it appeared to work anecdotally and instead of simply dismissing ivermectin and fenben and declaring it doesn't work and there is no biological basis for it to work is wrong. It is as wrong as the FDA failures.
I hope your going to follow up with a long video that says what drugs and treatment actually work on which cancers. We already know we can't trust barely anyone these days! I get your frustration, but i also get you will try anything once you get a cancer diagnosis!!!
Exactly
I am looking forward to this video, too. The only thng i want when I get cancer is to have a good quality of life as long as I can. Phooey on PFS
There is A PROTOCOL already published. Peer reviewed.
Provide link please.
FLCCC links r deleted
Thats the site
Can confirm. I posted the link a half dozen times and......poof! It's gone. Who is deleting it? UA-cam or the Dr?
@@king300c that is what I want to know. Dr. Makis was my source.
@ Dr. Makis
Debate! Great!
The panel must include Pierre Kory and Tess Lawrie.
And Dr Mikolaz Raszek. And Dr Igor top Russian oncologist.
Prevention is the key and a low carb diet and occasional fasting will do more for that than anything else.
Recent studies have also found that IVM could promote the death of tumor cells by regulating the tumor microenvironment in breast cancer. Under the stimulation of a tumor microenvironment with a high level of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) outside tumor cells, IVM could enhance the P2 × 4/ P2 × 7/Pannexin-1 mediated release of high mobility group box-1 protein (HMGB1) [37]. However, the release of a large amount of HMGB1 into the extracellular environment will promote immune cell-mediated immunogenic death and inflammatory reactions, which will have an inhibitory effect on the growth of tumor cells. Therefore, we believe that the anticancer effect of IVM is not limited to cytotoxicity, but also involves the regulation of the tumor microenvironment. IVM regulates the tumor microenvironment and mediates immunogenic cell death, which may be a new direction for research exploring anticancer mechanisms in the future.
Triple-negative breast cancer (TNBC) refers to cancer that is negative for estrogen receptor, progesterone receptor, and human epidermal growth factor receptor 2(HER2) and is the most aggressive subtype of breast cancer with the worst prognosis. In addition, there is also no clinically applicable therapeutic drug currently [34,35]. A drug screening study of TNBC showed that IVM could be used as a SIN3-interaction domain (SID) mimic to selectively block the interaction between SID and paired a-helix2. In addition, IVM regulated the expression of the epithelial mesenchymal-transition (EMT) related gene E-cadherin to restore the sensitivity of TNBC cells to tamoxifen, which implies the possibility that IVM functions as an epigenetic regulator in the treatment of cancer[36]
What's your opinion on the mitochondria-stem cell hypothesis of cancer? It states that mitochondrial dysfunction is the proximate cause to cancers and leads to somatic cell mutations through the production of oxide radicals. It Is marked by fermentation of glutamate and sugar.
It would be great if you assess this hypothesis.
I've always told Dr.Vinay how much I enjoy his opinions and his work. I'm happy to hear of an effort to reduce the cussing. It is more impressive to sound more professional. For some reason I suspect he will have a major change of opinion soon/paradigm change of some sort.
Urgh… Vijay is going back to “trust big pharma” mode
Apparently you didn't watch the video.
You're not gonna seek actual cancer drugs if you get cancer? Good luck, Steve Jobs.
@@skinnybricksMany patients do both - conventional standards of care and off label protocols. Jobs tried a juicing diet that caused his very treatment type of cancer to become Stage IV/incurable.
@@elingrome5853 Dr V is going to the ‘run real clinical trials and quit approving BS therapies with no OS advantage’ mode.
@@LuciaMilan8368 Oh that's a relief. I'd be worried if they were just taking ivermectin.
Maybe if we actually really properly test these things we might know but the docs who have real patients they say some of these work. See of their patients say didn't die of covid and everyone elses did maybe we should properly test what they say not a bunch of hit job pieces to make sure something else gets emergency approval and is much more profitable
Exactly!!!! They won't though because it's cheap!
Hey, can you go to joe rogan podcast. You are super awesome. Big fan.
Oh how I wish that you did more in the autoimmune world!
Question…. Thoughts on Medical MJ and Lupus/MS?
Love you and your amazing mind and truth! 🙏💜🙏
I've seen how badly the cancer treatments can go. I'm open to all options now adays.
Exactly
Anti-cancer and synergizing with anti-cancer drugs are 2 different things. It would not be hard to add a non-typical, relatively safe drug (ivermectin or febendazole) given with anti-cancer drug and compare the 2 arms.
Sometimes anecdotes can give insight into things that may work but we don't know why. It wouldn't hurt to try it out with standard care.
Can you cover Jane McLelland cancer treatment and the large amount of doctors that are using it. as well as Dr. Thomas Seyfried there are a large amount of people that have used these medical treatments.
Appreciate your opinions. Balanced assessment. Can feel your frustration! Don’t know how anyone in US can afford any medical treatment. How did things become so extreme?
You don't always need double blind studies for everything. If 10 people eat deadly mushrooms and die, you won't ask for a double blind study. Vinay, your're great but you have changed your mind on many things.
He'll change his mind with evidence.
@@nenadjovanovic3309 if 10 consecutive people died eating a mushroom and it was written up in a journal, that would constitute evidence. You don’t have to have proof to change your mind, but you do have to at least have evidence.
He’s well aware of the parachute theory.
I don't think they are saying Ivm us a real cancer treatment. I think they were saying that there actually maybe parasites in the body that they are finding more iften and by giving ivm, it gets rid the parasites that they didn't know they had. Which then helps them fight the cancer.
Also that the ivm may have anti-inflammatory properties. Also helping.
It has nothing to do with parasites, it has to do with blocking the fuel that cancer uses to grow. What Vinay is missing is the whole story, you need to do a strict metabolic diet in ADDITION to IVM and Fenbendazole, which interrupts cancers secondary source of fuel -fuel from fermentation.
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The only study I've seen indicated that ivermectin taken in conjunction with other cancer therapies (specifically chemo, if I remember right) enhanced the anti-cancer affects of those other drugs.
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Also parasites excrete waste in you
I have so many anecdotal stories such as my cousin who had a large portion of her bowel removed for colon cancer, refused chemotherapy and Radiation 25 years ago and is still healthy today.
My sister, too. She had a large tumor removed from her colon 22 years ago. They told her it was Stage 4. She refused chemo and radiation and instead chose to do an extended juice fast. She kept it up for 9 months and turned orange from all the carrots, lol. A year and a half after her surgery, she gave birth to twins. Still alive and cancer free today. I'm glad to hear your cousin is well!
@5:15 You know why these meds are not being tested in large medical trials right? They're cheap. So there's no money in teasing out when they work and when they don't.
Also, for most people, iver and fenben would be best along with the other treatments. They're not as effective in a really fast growing cancer, imho. But in the US doctors have such a bad attitude towards patients and patient needs. It's all my way or the highway 🙄.
Anyway, love your community of viewers. The comments are everything!❤
What is your meaning of fringe doctors? I'm understanding it to be Peter McCullough.
yes, for that specific take hes fringe
Thomas seyfried etc
😂😂Exactly what a disgrace to use for another dr with a different opinion🙄
@@katarinajohansson9121 Spot on!!
Appreciate your content so much. Thank you for giving these honest and competent timely topic reviews. You're exactly right.
How much money do you and your research organization get from big pharma again???????
The guys channel grew in popularity *because* he has criticized big pharma and the medical system. You’re not paying attention.
@@epigeneticnerd4244he is a covert theif dude.
😂 I'm cracking up about your mom. I appreciate the less cussing, because I have young kids always snooping in on what I am watching/ listening to, and they're very curios and like to learn, so I like to have them listen in, but it's harder with the cussing. Thanks for all your hard work and open honesty about these things. You've been an amazing asset these last years.
It's early on in the covid pandemic and you find yourself very ill and in the hospital. Your choices are ivermectin or remdesivyr and a ventilator?
As a mom and grama, I always say, you can’t have too little swearing!😊
I could definitely design a study that, by the standard that modern FDA, is suitable for approval that shows that ivermectin shrinks cancer. That's not an endorsement of ivermectin as cancer treatment but rather a condemnation of FDA's standards.
You are wise to listen to your Mom.
Thank you V, we appreciate your approach!
Allopathic medicine is NOT the most healing approach.
He didn’t say it was
@@epigeneticnerd4244 He doesn’t believe Ivermectin or Fenbendazole works for cancer or Covid. Many doctors have had excellent results using these drugs in their protocols. He is calling them fringe doctors.
I have a friend who has prostate cancer. He refused prostatectomy and is doing hormone tx but is also taking ivermectin. PSA significantly came down so he assumed it was all d/t ivermectin and now is touting the miracles. Not sure if there is any benefit related or maybe just the hormone TX is effective but I guess if you are desperate you will take anything. I can empathize and if it’s not harming someone what do you have to lose except false hope.
Can you tell me more…
Parasitic infections are a lot more common than people think and can cause cancer themselves, as well as cancer making one more susceptible to new infestations.
So why not give a safe anthelminthic as a precautionary treatment in the way that antibiotic are often prescribed for people with viral infection who are at greater risk for bacterial pneumonia?
That's ignoring the flimsy basis for direct effect you are using to dismiss these treatments.
I would appreciate your views on Dr. Thomas Seyfried’s dietary approach to depriving cancer cells of glucose and glutamine. This seems intuitive and dates back to Otto Warburg’s work from the early 20th century.
UUUTUBE STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS!
Really!?
That may explain why I've been noticing some of my posts on dicy topics disappear.
You can't say too much against the narrative you know.
@@marksutton5540 You got it, that's exactly what's going on!
@@Zyphera Exactly! I'll be so glad when people can have an actual conversation, and without THEM trying to control which was it goes!
@@marksutton5540 That's exactly what's happening! I take a screenshot of my comments, then go back to check if they're still there. Most of the time, they're REMOVED, but it's not by me
Mel Gibson was on Joe Rogan. He stated that Ivermectin cured his friends of stage 3 cancer. If this is true, can someone talk to him?
Gibson said his friends took multiple things in addition to Ivermectin.
I thought he said HE had lung cancer and took Fenbendazole/Ivermectin and other nutrients.
@@HappyLife-wv5msExactly
It was Stage IV cancer. And, it’s no more important than the hundreds or more others who share positive anecdotal experiences. Myself included.
The 5 year survival rate for stage IV colon cancer is 10-15%. Some people survive due to luck, not ivermectin
Monoclonal antibodies are the rage. I’ve been prescribed a several different proteins of this ilk. Given the often disappointing results, I’m starting to suspect that this class of drugs isn’t well understood and/or the model practitioners follow to prescribe these meds is, if not flawed, far from ideal.
What is the state of monoclonal antibody science in terms of mechanism of action and efficacy?
Monoclonal antibodies contain bioengineered Chinese hamster ovary cells. What could go wrong?
Yes I would like to know this too, especially since infants are now being offered a monoclonal antibody injection for RSV.
MAB has been around for 20 years so they aren’t new nor are they all the rage.
Appreciate your videos so much. Thank you for putting this all together and out here for us.
I love these comments. Better than a clinical trial. ❤
Disease X in the DRC turned out to be malaria in malnourished victims ( who coincidentally test covid positive). Since hydroxycloroquin (sp?) and nutrition are the solution, this panic drama has disappeared from headlines.
Regarding IVM, the words you used are "believe", "think", and "probably", which means...you don't know.
Yes, a randomized trial, we understand it's your fundamental element for a useful drug.
BUT, it needs money, it needs support, sometimes it needs authorization, and I believe you know there was an active agency rejection of IVM.
Don't you think that's suspicious?
Could that be happening yet?
Maybe you can talk about it during the debate.
always looking for an expert that I think is worth listening to
thankyou
I'm a fan of Dr.Thomas Seyfried and his metabolic cancer treatment. Cancer thrives on only two fuels: glucose and glutamate. He limits glucose with a low-carb diet and limits glutamate with a drug that inhibits its synthesis. The cancer starves. And patients don't puke or lose their hair.
This treatment isn't specifically a drug, but I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
It’s not plausible? Bold statement.
I really like Dr Prasad's content, very informative, plus he reminds me a bit of Quintin Tarantino in the way he talks, his voice, even the swearing is very Tarantino-esque.
True. I have to slow the video down to 80% to take it all in real time
It boils down to the mainstream hustlers verses the so called fringe.
Tell me again about your take on the COVID jab and that will inform me on anything else you say
Turkey Tail. Already used in some modern countries
*a type of mushroom
@@441kingstonrd.2Yes. My wife is taking it!
very disappointed with Vinay
What happened?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us Dr Prasad!
This video is really disappointing. You clearly haven't done much of any research on these treatments.
Vinay, I urge you not to listen to the push back in the comments. Just like you say in the video, there are lunatics on both sides here. I think this perspective is spot on - there are a lot of crazies pushing weird treatments that make no sense, both inside and outside the establishment. Frankly, both deserve equal amounts of ridicule. Who does not deserve ridicule are the patients who fall for either type of pseudoscience.