One of the biggest issues with Victory/Rebirth 3 is that for some reason a lot of the script was changed when translation/localisation was done. Neptune says a lot less frivolous and nasty stuff in Japanese compared to English, instead her tone is what conveys her meaning and playfulness. And the light hearted writing for V/3 was really odd given how dang dark that game was at points. Heck, it was the first game to make me feel genuine anger at a character's actions, Mr. Badd deserved much worse than he got. Looking forward to part 2, VII I think really fleshed Nep out, especially some of the later scenes. Dang game made me cry when I got the normal ending, Neptune's sorrowful wail was just what I needed to push me over the edge as I realised Uzume was gone.
You're making me want to work harder on Neptune Quest 2 now (fan game), and give the Neps some better writing examples. I've been stuck on Chapter 2 for what feels like 3 years now.
I have finished the rebirth 1-2-3 and VII in the last 3 months and honestly, knowing the tragedy of the Sega Dreamcast, Uzume and Umio's story outshined all other characters imho. Neptune and all others are fine but how reflective of Uzume and Umio's story to Dreamcast and Dreamcast fans is legendary.
1:34 Four of my favorite Series right there. One of my other favorites are the Dragon Quest games but some don't exactly have the most In depth character writing
Neptune is my favorite Neptunia character. In order to understand Neptune I think it's important to take both her human form and her HDD form into consideration. Neptune as a character is naturally friendly and energetic which is clearly encapsulated by her human form, however she also has a more serious side to her personality which doesn't come out too often. The best way I can describe Neptune is: her human form is a energetic and bubbly girl with a hidden seriousness that she doesn't know how to express but when she transforms into Purple Heart her personality does a sort of reversal and Neptune becomes a more serious person who isn't afraid to lay down the law but still has a silly side. Rebirth 1 does a great job to show Neptune's more silly and friendly side to her personality while Rebirth 2's conquest ending shows Neptune being serious even without needing to transform just because the situation got SO bad that even she couldn't pretend to be cheerful. Neptune usually doesn't much care for responsibilities such as running her nation, however when it comes to loved ones and people's safety she is willing to do whatever it takes to protect others even at the expense of her life if necessary.
I totally agree with you! For me is Neptunia also my most favourite franchise of all time. Nothing can overtop Neptunia. :) The problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
... as a massive Neptunia fan I am embarrassed by how long I was baffled thinking it was randomly called Megadimension Neptunia 7 (with the 7 being in roman numerals, VII) I never once even considered that it would be V 2 (with only the 2 being in roman numerals, despite how confusing that has the chance of being when it's placed right next to a V that's in the same colour and font, albeit in a different size)
Technically it can be interpreted as a 7 because of how many games of the series was out at the time you got HDN1, HDNMk2, HDN Victory, Rebirth 1, rebirth 2, rebirth 3 (That's already 6 games) making VII literally the 7th release Making Cyberdimension Canonically the 8th storyline in the Timeline and Sisters vs Sisters the 9th
The problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
@angelicplay3419 I'm not entirely sure how this issue (which I was previously unaware of) is related to the one I had. honestly I think I've spent more time with Neptunia spinoffs than I have with the mainline games. I've even ended up mistaking a couple of spinoffs (most notably Sisters vs Sisters) for mainline entries. I might understand the attachment to mainline games a bit more if it was all one universe where the mainline games always followed the exact same Neptune, or if all the mainline games shared the same gamplay, but the original Hyperdimension Neptunia, and its remake Re;Birth 1, seem to be completely unconnected to the later games, and the gameplay changed quite frequently between them, so I find it rather puzzling that people would place specific extra value on mainline games compared to spinoffs (to be honest, it kinda leaves me puzzled as to what even distinguishes a mainline game from a spinoff. how do people even tell the difference?)
@@Eclipsed_Embers I also noticed Neptunia Sisters vs sisters was counted as a spin-off wuthout connection to the mainline. A few days ago in a Disc....forum (Neptunia Server) I read Sisters vs Sisters is now a exception spin-off and it belongs to the mainline games. people won't agree. For me, the focus is simply on having fun.
I wish they bring back the next form and please give us four new next form for the little sister character like Nepgear and uni and rom and ram why they still have they normal CPU form for every game not getting new form
@@LetPlaySpidey18 They won't come back because they required the Golden Crystals to actually tap into that Power up "Add-on" form to their basic HDD Unless, of course Uzume daydreams a few stock piles of the Gold Crystals
Shes my favorite female character ever so... I do consider little Nep and Purple Heart to be the exact same girl tho. I streight up think Neptunes faking having such a drastic personality change when transforming. Purple Heart you see is the heart of the purple girl, its who Neptune wishes she would be, a paradigm of virtue, unbeatable and skilled in everything, always relyable and hard working to be the perfect ruler of her people. But thats just not who she is, keeping up the ACT is tiring so she cant remain Purple Heart indefinetly. So then she transforms in the little Nep and again ACTS as a little kid, someone whos lazy to a fault and thus cant be expected to work and everyone should just accept that shes gona spend her time hanging out with her friends and playing games and having fun. I think Neptune is the most mature of all the godesses, she doesnt care about the little things which dont matter in the grand scheme of things (the queen shouldnt do paperwork thats for the lower administrators, the leader should set a direction and inspire other people to do their part), she instead does what she wants to and lives life hapily (I think this is why she so often drags Noire away from her work, cos Neptune understands that Noire doesnt actually like working so much but cant help herself from over micromanaging her realm even tho shed be happyer to hand out with her friends more often), but when things get serious she will always do her best and will temporeraly be what everyone wants her to be. Notice how Planeptune runs smoothly despite Neptune spending most of her time just chilling, she understands her roll, she understands herself, and she has a proper work life balance even if warding off Histy requires faking a personality split so she wouldnt ask too much when Neptune thinks that now is goofing arround time rather than being serious time. Obviously this does not apply to the Rebirth1 Neptune which has amnesia.
I personally see the Neptune and Purple Heart personally switch completely oppositely. To me something similar to the events of super dimension took place in the Hyper dimension. And it was these events that caused Purple Heart to adopt her Neptune personality to keep her competitiveness and ambition in check to prevent the console war from becoming a outright war again. I also personally belief Purple Hearts personality left her incredibly isolated and lonely as she came across intimidating and infallible to her people so nobody had the opportunity to get close to her. Her Neptune personality made making friends and connection a lot easier so she began preferring that personality but kept her Purple Heart personality in her HDD form for when it was necessary. I also think this is why Neptune teases Noir so much besides finding it entertaining she also wants her friend and rival to open up more to others and not drown herself in her work.
I technically agreed on the first one but the second one where you mentioned about Neptune's character development in Victory/Rebirth 3 lacks a lot for her. Isn't she supposed to be cheerful or funny unlike mosts of the characters cuz that's what i find it disappointing. Anyways, i had a great watch! Can't wait for part 2 btw
While yes, she is MEANT to act more cheerful and lighthearted, especially in Victory, the writers ended up skewing too far in the other direction when making the game. It's how we ended up with Neptune acting the way she does in Victory. I wouldn't mind it so much if not for the fact that Neptune's negative traits in Victory were present in pretty much every part of the game. Glad you liked it, though; Part 2 is being worked on as we speak!
Neptune in victory was written horrible in victory and Plutia did not help both would do mean things to their allies and suffer little to no consequences for their actions like Iris Heart just dominated everyone by how she act alone it not funny it's mean spirited plus the animation and games afterwards portray Neptune better cause I love her dynamic with Nepgear it my favorite duo in the series yes Neptune has been pair with other characters before her sister but their bond is so wholesome and heck I might like the Planeptune ending in rebirth 2 more cause of it but the true ending shows Nepgear leading in the spot light with her chasing her and not the other way around Neptune amazing character and is my second favorite next to Nepgear cause I tend to act like them most of the time throughout my life growing up.
I am also like to add megadimension Neptunia was the best game cause the characters great story great three in one plus it does the multiple story bit better then Sonic heroes did cause each nation is different and not a repetitive chore to go through
Not canon to the Hyper Dimension though That's the SUPER Dimension version of her where she Canonically quits being a CPU Yeah, the True ending of HDN1 and even rebirth 1 has all four main Goddesses retire themselves. It happens in the original game specifically because they originally never planned to make a series. But it got popular enough that they were like "Oh crap, we gotta make another one !! But, how do we use the characters from the original ? ..... Uh.... How about we retcon the world of the first game into being it's own separate Dimension and continue the series starting with the second game. We'll call it Mark 2" The Mk part of the title is supposed to insinuate "Version 2" than they continue the story in THAT games Dimension
@shelbybayer200 You basically explained what every fan of the franchise knows, however it's not that the first game isn't canon it just takes place in super dimension and it just never made any connection to the hyper dimension so if we take into account that every Neptune is Neptune then in my opinion the super dimension nep is the best written. The first game showed her development perfectly even giving her the best ending in the later games except vii it seems they didn't know what to do with her and they either make her a background character or a straight comic relief.
@lizbandicoot3959The problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
I never cared to look at or play Hyperdevotion Noire, so I can't really comment on how Neptune acts there. But either way, the main focus of the video was on *canon* Neptune, not Neptune from any of the alt. universe spin-offs.
That game she's mainly upset that she isn't the Protagonist there. She was fine with Nepgear being protagonist specifically because she was literally BORN to be the Secondary Protagonist after Neptune herself. I mean NEP is literally in their names. Neptune even says in the opening Cinematic of Hyperdevotion is "I blame the writers.... For not making me the lead" She's literally JEALOUS that Noire is the main character there. Neptune is a Primary case of "Main Character Syndrome" in that game. She thinks she should be the protagonist not Noire.
That's a huge Misconception The series just doesn't have much to work for ideas. There are only so many Consoles and Companies to reference in their characters. They have to use Inspiration from the REAL WORLD Game Industry to add story bits & Lore to Gamindustri. Sisters vs Sisters literally works as a continuation from the main timeline of events after Megadimension, because it references Victory/Rebirth 3 events and mentions Uzume and Plutia. And most importantly the new character they introduced in Sisters vs Sisters Maho/Grey Sister is literally the latest thing in history to happen for the Game Industry Mobile Phone gaming reaching mainstream Gaming Industry.
@KungsZigfridsThe problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
Part 2 is published! Go and check it out!
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One of the biggest issues with Victory/Rebirth 3 is that for some reason a lot of the script was changed when translation/localisation was done. Neptune says a lot less frivolous and nasty stuff in Japanese compared to English, instead her tone is what conveys her meaning and playfulness. And the light hearted writing for V/3 was really odd given how dang dark that game was at points. Heck, it was the first game to make me feel genuine anger at a character's actions, Mr. Badd deserved much worse than he got.
Looking forward to part 2, VII I think really fleshed Nep out, especially some of the later scenes. Dang game made me cry when I got the normal ending, Neptune's sorrowful wail was just what I needed to push me over the edge as I realised Uzume was gone.
You're making me want to work harder on Neptune Quest 2 now (fan game), and give the Neps some better writing examples. I've been stuck on Chapter 2 for what feels like 3 years now.
I work on a Neptunia project too but its a video project. A long video.. :)
@angelicplay3419 The Nep love here is heartwarming~
@@Methrael absolutely. Glad to read that there are more Nep Nep fans. :)
I have finished the rebirth 1-2-3 and VII in the last 3 months and honestly, knowing the tragedy of the Sega Dreamcast, Uzume and Umio's story outshined all other characters imho. Neptune and all others are fine but how reflective of Uzume and Umio's story to Dreamcast and Dreamcast fans is legendary.
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Four of my favorite Series right there.
One of my other favorites are the Dragon Quest games but some don't exactly have the most In depth character writing
Neptune is my favorite Neptunia character. In order to understand Neptune I think it's important to take both her human form and her HDD form into consideration. Neptune as a character is naturally friendly and energetic which is clearly encapsulated by her human form, however she also has a more serious side to her personality which doesn't come out too often. The best way I can describe Neptune is: her human form is a energetic and bubbly girl with a hidden seriousness that she doesn't know how to express but when she transforms into Purple Heart her personality does a sort of reversal and Neptune becomes a more serious person who isn't afraid to lay down the law but still has a silly side.
Rebirth 1 does a great job to show Neptune's more silly and friendly side to her personality while Rebirth 2's conquest ending shows Neptune being serious even without needing to transform just because the situation got SO bad that even she couldn't pretend to be cheerful. Neptune usually doesn't much care for responsibilities such as running her nation, however when it comes to loved ones and people's safety she is willing to do whatever it takes to protect others even at the expense of her life if necessary.
I totally agree with you! For me is Neptunia also my most favourite franchise of all time. Nothing can overtop Neptunia. :)
The problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
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as a massive Neptunia fan I am embarrassed by how long I was baffled thinking it was randomly called Megadimension Neptunia 7 (with the 7 being in roman numerals, VII)
I never once even considered that it would be V 2 (with only the 2 being in roman numerals, despite how confusing that has the chance of being when it's placed right next to a V that's in the same colour and font, albeit in a different size)
lol believe me, you're not the only one I've seen who has made that exact same mistake before
Technically it can be interpreted as a 7 because of how many games of the series was out at the time you got
HDN1, HDNMk2, HDN Victory, Rebirth 1, rebirth 2, rebirth 3 (That's already 6 games) making VII literally the 7th release
Making Cyberdimension Canonically the 8th storyline in the Timeline and Sisters vs Sisters the 9th
The problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
@angelicplay3419 I'm not entirely sure how this issue (which I was previously unaware of) is related to the one I had.
honestly I think I've spent more time with Neptunia spinoffs than I have with the mainline games. I've even ended up mistaking a couple of spinoffs (most notably Sisters vs Sisters) for mainline entries.
I might understand the attachment to mainline games a bit more if it was all one universe where the mainline games always followed the exact same Neptune, or if all the mainline games shared the same gamplay, but the original Hyperdimension Neptunia, and its remake Re;Birth 1, seem to be completely unconnected to the later games, and the gameplay changed quite frequently between them, so I find it rather puzzling that people would place specific extra value on mainline games compared to spinoffs (to be honest, it kinda leaves me puzzled as to what even distinguishes a mainline game from a spinoff. how do people even tell the difference?)
@@Eclipsed_Embers
I also noticed Neptunia Sisters vs sisters was counted as a spin-off wuthout connection to the mainline. A few days ago in a Disc....forum (Neptunia Server) I read Sisters vs Sisters is now a exception spin-off and it belongs to the mainline games.
people won't agree. For me, the focus is simply on having fun.
Next forms are sexy and i love them
I wish they bring back the next form and please give us four new next form for the little sister character like Nepgear and uni and rom and ram why they still have they normal CPU form for every game not getting new form
@LetPlaySpidey18 i agree heavily....we need more next forms
@@LetPlaySpidey18
They won't come back because they required the Golden Crystals to actually tap into that Power up "Add-on" form to their basic HDD
Unless, of course Uzume daydreams a few stock piles of the Gold Crystals
My only problem with "Next Form" is that there's no further stat boost other than changing a characters appearance and the exe drive skill you get 💬
@TTen-schir53b9 that so true I wish they give us new move when you turn next form they only give us one but that a exe move
Shes my favorite female character ever so...
I do consider little Nep and Purple Heart to be the exact same girl tho. I streight up think Neptunes faking having such a drastic personality change when transforming. Purple Heart you see is the heart of the purple girl, its who Neptune wishes she would be, a paradigm of virtue, unbeatable and skilled in everything, always relyable and hard working to be the perfect ruler of her people. But thats just not who she is, keeping up the ACT is tiring so she cant remain Purple Heart indefinetly. So then she transforms in the little Nep and again ACTS as a little kid, someone whos lazy to a fault and thus cant be expected to work and everyone should just accept that shes gona spend her time hanging out with her friends and playing games and having fun. I think Neptune is the most mature of all the godesses, she doesnt care about the little things which dont matter in the grand scheme of things (the queen shouldnt do paperwork thats for the lower administrators, the leader should set a direction and inspire other people to do their part), she instead does what she wants to and lives life hapily (I think this is why she so often drags Noire away from her work, cos Neptune understands that Noire doesnt actually like working so much but cant help herself from over micromanaging her realm even tho shed be happyer to hand out with her friends more often), but when things get serious she will always do her best and will temporeraly be what everyone wants her to be. Notice how Planeptune runs smoothly despite Neptune spending most of her time just chilling, she understands her roll, she understands herself, and she has a proper work life balance even if warding off Histy requires faking a personality split so she wouldnt ask too much when Neptune thinks that now is goofing arround time rather than being serious time.
Obviously this does not apply to the Rebirth1 Neptune which has amnesia.
I personally see the Neptune and Purple Heart personally switch completely oppositely. To me something similar to the events of super dimension took place in the Hyper dimension. And it was these events that caused Purple Heart to adopt her Neptune personality to keep her competitiveness and ambition in check to prevent the console war from becoming a outright war again. I also personally belief Purple Hearts personality left her incredibly isolated and lonely as she came across intimidating and infallible to her people so nobody had the opportunity to get close to her. Her Neptune personality made making friends and connection a lot easier so she began preferring that personality but kept her Purple Heart personality in her HDD form for when it was necessary. I also think this is why Neptune teases Noir so much besides finding it entertaining she also wants her friend and rival to open up more to others and not drown herself in her work.
I technically agreed on the first one but the second one where you mentioned about Neptune's character development in Victory/Rebirth 3 lacks a lot for her. Isn't she supposed to be cheerful or funny unlike mosts of the characters cuz that's what i find it disappointing.
Anyways, i had a great watch! Can't wait for part 2 btw
While yes, she is MEANT to act more cheerful and lighthearted, especially in Victory, the writers ended up skewing too far in the other direction when making the game. It's how we ended up with Neptune acting the way she does in Victory.
I wouldn't mind it so much if not for the fact that Neptune's negative traits in Victory were present in pretty much every part of the game.
Glad you liked it, though; Part 2 is being worked on as we speak!
Neptune in victory was written horrible in victory and Plutia did not help both would do mean things to their allies and suffer little to no consequences for their actions like Iris Heart just dominated everyone by how she act alone it not funny it's mean spirited plus the animation and games afterwards portray Neptune better cause I love her dynamic with Nepgear it my favorite duo in the series yes Neptune has been pair with other characters before her sister but their bond is so wholesome and heck I might like the Planeptune ending in rebirth 2 more cause of it but the true ending shows Nepgear leading in the spot light with her chasing her and not the other way around Neptune amazing character and is my second favorite next to Nepgear cause I tend to act like them most of the time throughout my life growing up.
I am also like to add megadimension Neptunia was the best game cause the characters great story great three in one plus it does the multiple story bit better then Sonic heroes did cause each nation is different and not a repetitive chore to go through
The original Neptune(2010) is the best written nep
Not canon to the Hyper Dimension though
That's the SUPER Dimension version of her where she Canonically quits being a CPU
Yeah, the True ending of HDN1 and even rebirth 1 has all four main Goddesses retire themselves.
It happens in the original game specifically because they originally never planned to make a series. But it got popular enough that they were like
"Oh crap, we gotta make another one !! But, how do we use the characters from the original ? ..... Uh.... How about we retcon the world of the first game into being it's own separate Dimension and continue the series starting with the second game. We'll call it Mark 2"
The Mk part of the title is supposed to insinuate "Version 2" than they continue the story in THAT games Dimension
@shelbybayer200 You basically explained what every fan of the franchise knows, however it's not that the first game isn't canon it just takes place in super dimension and it just never made any connection to the hyper dimension so if we take into account that every Neptune is Neptune then in my opinion the super dimension nep is the best written. The first game showed her development perfectly even giving her the best ending in the later games except vii it seems they didn't know what to do with her and they either make her a background character or a straight comic relief.
@lizbandicoot3959The problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?
I think that the worst personality she had was in hyperdevotion noir she was angry weak and hasty
I never cared to look at or play Hyperdevotion Noire, so I can't really comment on how Neptune acts there.
But either way, the main focus of the video was on *canon* Neptune, not Neptune from any of the alt. universe spin-offs.
That game she's mainly upset that she isn't the Protagonist there.
She was fine with Nepgear being protagonist specifically because she was literally BORN to be the Secondary Protagonist after Neptune herself.
I mean NEP is literally in their names.
Neptune even says in the opening Cinematic of Hyperdevotion is
"I blame the writers.... For not making me the lead"
She's literally JEALOUS that Noire is the main character there.
Neptune is a Primary case of "Main Character Syndrome" in that game. She thinks she should be the protagonist not Noire.
This franchise has severely stagnated. There are no new entries in the mainline for a long time and the spin-off aren't doing exactly great.
"This franchise has severely stagnated." People keep saying that and yet I dont see it.
That's a huge Misconception
The series just doesn't have much to work for ideas.
There are only so many Consoles and Companies to reference in their characters.
They have to use Inspiration from the REAL WORLD Game Industry to add story bits & Lore to Gamindustri.
Sisters vs Sisters literally works as a continuation from the main timeline of events after Megadimension, because it references Victory/Rebirth 3 events and mentions Uzume and Plutia.
And most importantly the new character they introduced in Sisters vs Sisters Maho/Grey Sister is literally the latest thing in history to happen for the Game Industry Mobile Phone gaming reaching mainstream Gaming Industry.
@@shelbybayer200 Yea I very much consider SvS to be a mainline game, they just dont seem to want to let Gearsy be the MC in mainlane games anymore.
@KungsZigfridsThe problem I see is that there are people who are too focused on MAINLINE. With its spin-offs, Neptunia produced just as great games and ideas as in the mainlines. Despite many spin-offs, other game series don't have the problem of fans becoming so attached to mainlines, so why is this done with Neptunia?