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Sonic Frontiers. Supreme boss fight with all interactions + unused QTE and no HUD.
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- After my compilation of bosses made harder with mods, I had another idea.
Removing most HUD elements and showing most of the bosses interactions and secret attacks in one video (now in 60fps and 1440p)
This boss was beaten while being level 1 on every stat and with a reduced parry window.
Supreme is the only boss where I am not using the buffed titans mod because I wanted to showcase the unused QTE near the end of the fight.
If you guys want to experience the fight with this QTE yourselves, it's avalaible in the "Codes" tab on the hedgemod manager.
I hope you guys will enjoy.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro cutscene
0:25 Start of the fight
0:50 Drone destruction
1:10 Grand slam
2:15 Cyloop animation
2:20 Double cyloop + hard knockdown
2:32 Supreme's counter
2:37 Second phase
3:34 Counter attack while cylooped
4:00 Unused QTE animation
5:07 End of the fight
This QTE makes me look at supreme differently now. Don't know why it wasn't part of the final production, would've made the fight so much better. Hope they finish it in the upcoming updates.
I think it was due to Sega rushing Sonic team that they didn't have it be part but I think it was just confirmed that they are putting in this qte
@@christopherford39 you got a source?
@@LightLemon. dude it was obvious that Sega rushed Sonic team hell originally Sega planned on releasing Frontiers in 2021 but Kishimoto fought back for time. Also I do have or source just have to find it again.
Here it is:
"Sonic Team has confirmed what many fans had suspected: the latter parts of Sonic Frontiers were rushed to meet the release date. According to a Q&A with the dev team, earlier parts of the game took so long to develop that it left little time to perfect the ending, and particularly the final boss."
@@christopherford39 Guess that ones on me, thought you meant this unfinished content was coming in later updates. (Roadmap)
@@LightLemon. it's all good
The unused QTE gives Supreme more personality and makes Supreme feel way more powerful, the laser from the drones just knock you back even when you try to resist them , implying that said lasers are of the same level of Giganto power if not more , also when you dodge the shots from the sniper rifle and you get close Supreme evades you with quick movements and JUMPS to avoid you , the fact that despite being huge is still agile enough to evade you gives the feel of facing an way stronger foe than the previous bosses , and finally , attacking even thought you cycloop it makes it feel even more powerful.
Overall the unused QTEs makes Supreme feel well , *Supreme* , the body of Giganto , the flying of Wyvern and the skill to use weapons of Knight, it makes you feel that it is indeed the stronger of the Titans and the pinnacle of the technology that made them work . I hope these QTE (and perhaps more) gets added in one of the updates
This unused qte should be added before the second phase kicks in and the one thats like the one qe got but longer should be added at the end
The absolute beast of Supreme’s rifle is shown full force when you rapid fire that thing into the End
technicaIIy aII the titans couId fIy in that one cutscene
AND the speed of KNIGHT as well
Supreme needs his laser wings and do some cool attack with them
That QTE looked amazing, the way Sonic was actually struggling to get in close was refreshing
4:41 It really demeans the phrase that If they're bigger, you have to be quicker. Especially when the big one turns out to be just as quick.
The way Supreme zips around faster than even Knight really shows just how incredibly strong yet fast he’s really built to be
And thanks to this new QTE, I’m even more convinced that I’m Here suits Supreme, instead of him having another Kellin Quinn song
The only thing that would make this mod better is if they somehow managed to mod it to keep the purple wings in the actual fight after they appeared in the cutscene. Wings would help explain its agility and Giant leaps when dodging.
Fun fact some one did mod the wings on supreme Before update 3 came out
What if Sonic had a special QTE for this boss battle specifically, called a Parry Blast (or something) where Supreme and its drones surround Sonic with a barrage of blasts and shots that could ultimately end him, even as Super Sonic, and he's able to charge up by first holding the parry buttons and then button mashing the attack button to unleash what seems like a Chaos Blast, but instead it is energy shielding Sonic and reflecting all the shots to the senders, destroying all the drones and leaving Supreme a bit vulnerable where sonic can seize the opportunity to get a few licks in.
anger and hate are supreme
@@markvo250 exactly who i was thinking of lmao
What the fuck licks in? Does he mean punches and kicks?
@@xFearLua001 Licks is slang for getting a punch and/or kick in
I’m pretending you meant sonic started licking him
I think that they are gonna add that QTE in some of the updates
I really hope so. It would make Supreme feel more unique. The animation needs some tweaks though.
@@emyxam6418 sega should have understanding of this
Yeah, Sonic Team lacked so much time so no doubt Kishimoto knew what he is doing with the updates.
Agreed
I'm not sure but I think they will rework this boss in an update
Wait these existed? I’m sad these are left unused because it makes Supreme quite epic won’t lie
Confirmed that they are adding them in the updates (I think)
Kishimoto said it was heavily unfinished and had to scrap, it looks good in our eyes but there were possibly so much left for supreme that didn't get finished.
The End got the worse treatment though, it didn't even get a proper boss.
@@Electrical010 yeah tbh the end should had not existed for gameplay reasons 😂
@@Electrical010 I was really hoping there would be fake defeat where the moon was cracked then explode revealing the true form... The game still good tho.
Perfect timing with song in some scenes:
1:12
1:33
2:20
3:58
4:45
1 thing I really like in Sonic Unleashed is the boss QTE, it's challenging and have to focus while Frontiers have only the x button. I hope Sonic Team update the boss fight as they original intends in one of the free dlc update at some point. I also hope they added something like 'new game+' and 'super hard mode', so that we can fight the boss with all abilities and not melted easily by lv99 sonic.
Well they did add extreme mode in update 1 lol.
And now we have new game + thanks to the 2nd update
That QTE is sick I knew they suppose to add different buttons for that
I sure that sega will eventually put that in it 🎉
That Quick-Time Event was Epic! It better arrive in a Future Update as it would make Supreme well, Supreme!
With those QTEs, Supreme really FEELS like a Soldier.
The unused QTE is so goddamn cool. It makes Supreme look so awesome, agile, powerful, and overall a much more difficult enemy than the previous Titans. It is very strange that this somehow didn't make it into the final game. Maybe it was to do with difficulty, since it's quite a few fast QTEs in a row. But if so, that's a pretty dumb reason. Supreme was a disappointment of a fight but even having this 1 QTE would have made it so much cooler in itself lol
I think it was a time thing, these QTEs are clearly not finished and the later half of the game had to be rushed, so I think they just didn't have the time.
@@sonicdml4175 there was another cut Supreme QTE that's not shown in this video, of Sonic dodging multiple gun blasts from supremes gun. It wasn't that remarkable of a qte but looked pretty cool. In the final game though it was cut down to just the very first part, of Sonic dodging one shot and returning to the fight. They scaled it down hard for no reason it seems to me
@@kaz101i have heard about that one in my opinion they could have been add with out a hassle except the 3 part of the longer version
Some context: the longer version of the qte we got in game is in 4 parts, part 1 the qte we got, part 2 just needs to have the animation jump cut to qte success part fixed, part 3 the part best cut, part 4 same with part 2.
Knew that gun was more than just a longshot attack that QTE was siiick!
They probably scraped this sick stuff due to time, I really wish they added this.
The LB/RB QTE is so sick!
Even if the qtes aren't playable, I'm at least grateful this video exists.
Though I did wish the titans had recoil when you wailed on them.
I want to know, will these black bullets kill super sonic right away, or how will the yellow ones just throw it away? I want them to be so powerful, since he dodges them, and show that supreme can also be strong to immediately kill the super sonic.
This is way better than the original fight. I hope someone fixes the QTE though, supreme looks a tad bit bouncy to be a giant titan.
Apparently Supreme will be updated in the future so it may not be unused for too long
First update is a guess
@@best_mate456 considering that's where the boss rush is it wouldn't be far fetched
@@christopherford39 nothing yet
This unused animation really highlights the fact that this titan can be faster than Super Sonic (becuase you can't even react after destroying one of his devices) with those dodges and high movility he has, I hope the dev focuses on that fact when polishing Supreme's fight as he said he would in an update 👍
I don't think Supreme is faster than Super Sonic, the fact that you can't react after parrying is probably either since Sonic isn't expecting it, or can't react that fast (it happening more than once is def just gameplay reasons), dodging something doesn't require you to be faster than it, you can actually dodge stuff significantly faster than you depending on the distance, and whether or not you can anticipate it.
Especially since Sonic (both base form and super state) are a LOT slower in gameplay so the player can actually handle it.
@@sonicdml4175 🤓
Okey now serious, if he isn't faster how did he dodge Sonic mid attack twice in a row on the animation or how can he smack you even after parrying him? He is just that fast
@@sakuradabp6400
I already said that you can dodge something that is faster than you depending on the distance and whether or not you anticipate the attack.
Parrying has nothing to do with movement speed, it is more agility, and even then Super Sonic could just be in a position where he's not ready to parry.
And of course, the third point you completely disregarded, both Base Sonic and Super Sonic are *MUCH* slower in gameplay than in canon, so that the player can keep up with what's happening.
@@sakuradabp6400
Actually, I'm pretty sure flying around the island during the Wyvern fight is already faster than Supreme's dodge.
@@sonicdml4175 Because he is designed to be like that, ask him to turn around at the same speed that he is going, but Supreme just dodges twice with such an agility that matches Super Sonic
can't lie the unused qte would've made it so much better question how do you get it?
You need to download the "Hedgemod manager", then go in the "Codes" tab and in the "Gameplay" section you need to tick the right box.
@@emyxam6418 wait so they just got programmed in as codes?? Huh, thought this was a mod lol
@@Chelvia and as a plus these QTEs won't stay unused for long either
@@emyxam6418 thankss
Idk what was wrong with that QTE, that was dope.
I think they trying to adjust it but more but not have enough time for that unfortunately, hopefully it will make it into the update
I’m not sure why, but the images from 5:20 to 5:25 give me a strange feeling of sadness…even loneliness. Like it’s just standing there all alone, with no one to talk to, or call as a friend.
While the unused QTE's help a little bit in adding more character to Supreme I still think it suffers the same problem:
the fight is boring.
To fix this fight imo, you need to redesign this whole fight. They don't make the joke "it's just white giganto or giganto 2.0" just because of his appearance it's also because it so much copy and pasted from giganto with none of his own flare.
My proposal to fix this fight would this:
A new climbing phase (before Super Sonic)
Supreme will fire lasers at you to try and shake you off while ascending his body, when you get on Supreme will use his jetpack to shake sonic and you will need to carefully route yourself to his head.
Phase 1:
On the ground just the original:
Supreme will quickly move around the player firing volleys of sniper shots at the player (similarly to how the unused QTE's are except in game). Every once in a while Supreme will fire up his jetpack and dash towards Super Sonic and this attack can be parried for a grand slam counter (something unique to Supreme ideally).
Phase 2:
Supreme takes to the skies except he flies around Ouranos Island just like you do with the fight with Wyvern.
This will play similarly to Wyvern as well, where you need to chase Supreme down. While he fires missiles from his jetpack and also fire more sniper shots that you actually can't parry. You will need to parry to missiles as he will block the first to catch him or you can avoid his attacks and you will gradually catch him. Supreme will try to attack you and you can parry it once again for a new counter.
Phase 3 (Final Phase)
Oh yeah I'm really changing this I wasn't kidding.
In this final phase It will start by Supreme flying up to Super Sonic and throwing him to to the clouds (meant to show Supreme can match and compete with SS) "I'm here's Vocals kick in" and the final phase will play similarly to Knights boss fight where Supreme will hide in the clouds and try and shoot you. The color of the clouds (red for a shot blue for a dash) will tell you if it's a shot coming or Supreme doing another dash attack. Parry the dash or just attack him during the dash to open him for attack and the fight is yours for the taking
And i think this idea of combing the best parts of Giganto, Wyvern and Knight is what they wanted to do but just ran out of money and time. Here's hoping the DLC or modders will come through for us.
I would’ve loved a fight in the clouds! As it stands we were left with a complete anticlimax where sonic literally say “is that it”. We don’t even see him use wings
I would flip my lid if that were the case that sounds awesome
If that actually happened in the supreme fight my jaw would literary be on the floor especially on the 3rd phase.
Now is my turn them confirmed a rework
Of supreme
And the end in twitter my ideias the normal thing the hp of supreme is higher combine the all titans hp for supreme phase 1 the same but in the files was found other 2 unused qte he have two qte of giganto one of he try to eat you of giganto and the leiser atack of giganto too he have this two qte in the files so is true supreme relly gonna have the best parts of the other 3 titans so put these two giganto atacks on supreme phase 1 the rest is the same but give supreme a different cyloop animation every titan has his own cyloop animation but in supreme is the same of giganto so put a difference cyloop animation phase 2 he start to fly and hover you need to chase him in a qte the drones who shot leiser try to atack you but you press the bottom and put them against supreme Afther this other qte again the ending qte of wyvern he use he hands to smash you press the button and hold and press the bottom to make a explosion and kick supreme Afther in some kind of phase 3 not a real phase 3 he stop run and start to fight as normal like the same of actually but same of knight he start to spine like knight he is so fast you need to have good attention to atack him and have the drones too and the atacks you with leiser from his wings the first qte is of the final game but in the files this qte is a little longer he shot 3 times and you press the button
3 times Afther this come this unused qte of the video as the ending qte the animation of this qte is not ready so when supreme jump to he air make he use his jets for this and Afther this you take the final damages and defeat the boss now for the end phase 1 is the same phase 2 bring all the titans to the fight the titans back being control by sonic s friends sonic is a small particula as he is very small for the end leiser and obstacles are created Afther this come a qte with giganto he use his leiser to atack the end and the end use his leiser two created a beam colapse press the bottom to win Afther come wyvern a qte of missels you need to look the end to shot him right Afther come knight a qte lf strong you use the sword to atack the end Afther this the end created a shild supreme you need to press the button to broke the shild Afther you took damage him come that cutscene from the final game the end shot a leise super Sonic hold the atack supreme come and help sonic stop the atack and Afther supreme kick sonic to the end the qte of speed and you finshed the boss
@@Ismatic1906 Sonic said that only because he thought the whole thing was over, unsure of whether there’s anything else to do next. Don’t take it out of context
I can see you also decreased atacks damage. Everything but the basic combo seems to be doing half of the minimum damage. I can respect that, a little bit of balancing
I have a neat idea for giganto so when giganto shoots the laser out of his mouth there should be a QTE where if u do the QTE u parry the laser and it deflects and damages giganto while if u don't do the QTE u just normally repeatedly keep pressing x to block it reply to me and heart or like if u think my idea is neat
Sounds like a cool idea gives giganto personality it would also work for supreme
let's hope update 3 brings all QTEs back with a bit more polish in the animation
Still wondering why there’s no QTE where Sonic blocks and kicks back the bullet fired at him. Seems like it would fit the design direction of the other bosses.
Whether the devs actually do fix the fight like people hope or just fans do it themselves, I really hope we get an overhauled version of this fight that makes it as grandiose as it should be.
Woah! That QTE looks awesome. I wonder why they didn't use it.
Lack of time to properly finish the game.
looks a bit unfinished so prob time constraints
4:03 Nah thats STRAIGHT out of Evangelion
Here's to hoping all of these and possibly some all new attacks are added during one of the updates.
Supreme in the base game: you is a bitch
Supreme during these QTEs: You are going to need better gloves to catch these hands and this Glock, also "YOU'RE TOO SLOW"
I didn't even realize they were already available on the Hedgemod Manager, thank you ^^
im 100% sure that will be on an update, because they said that the game was on "goldy" "finished", so no way its unused content
A game going Gold means it's finished development and is now onto production, not that the game is 100% complete. This is unused/scrapped content that didn't make the cut due to time constraints.
The creators already said they had bunch of ideas for things to do for example the drift so no
@@ZeroJump Bruh you think them mentioning the drift (which they purposefully removed) suddenly makes it so they won't finish unfinished pieces of the game?
I hate that that unused went as it did. It could have been so cool to see Supreme use that rifle more and that QTE was a great way to do it!
I think there were a few more QTE...
There were others but they are very bugged and not accessible in the Hedgemod manager
From the other clip I saw I thought that animation initially played after you get shot back by the two big cannons. It would make sense for them to remove it then because it defeats the purpose of destroying the smaller cannons. But from this video it seems to be an alternative for the sniper animation at the end. I don't know why they changed it, this is so much cooler than what we got. Yeah it's a bit weird how it just slides through the trees, but there are ways they could've gotten around that.
Sonic is like : fight back fight back
Wow looks pretty cool, definitely this gonna be added in the future updates for shure!
Is there a mod that lets supreme keep its wings cause if there is that would be epic also does something happen if you fails the qte or not
Vanilla Supreme was already my 2nd favorite Titan boss in the game, but this makes it even better!
I'm also gonna say it right now, The End is my favorite of the 5 main bosses and Chaos Island is my second-favorite level. Fight me.
Hey guys.
If you want to check out more unused Supreme stuff I would recommend watching these 2 videos:
ua-cam.com/video/40CCpBHi0Ao/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Fishly101
ua-cam.com/video/GLjKWXFPu50/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Fishly101
I gotta say. He has them supreme Jordan’s tho.
By the way, the buffed titans mod still works with the QTE, no issues there.
Giganto and Supreme are my favorites!
MAAN This makes wayy more epic!
I've been meaning to ask: Are the soap shoes for Super Sonic a mod? I know the base ones aren't, but those don't show up on the titan-basher.
The one on super sonic are a mod indeed!
@@emyxam6418 some fine bullshit right there
2:47 shin godzilla moment
That unused QTE is a MUST for future updates, it gives the fight much more personality and better use of the rifle other than "one shot QTE that happens so fast it's anticlimatic af".
Srsly, the rifle is was underutilized that barely justifies it inclusion. Hell, it could've been used as a back cannon just like Sage does against The End.
Just One World IM HEREEEE
Now this is how the Supreme battle should be. If Sage were to make Supreme attack Sonic then it would be ultra badass like this. The End did Supreme real dirty.
Since this is the only titan we can fight over and over again we might see it change with the updates
That QTE should have been in there. Definitely makes the massive rifle matter. Otherwise it’s 1 shot that Sonic dodges so fast you can’t even see it go by.
I think the Impossible Mode Mod for this game got a new QTE
If they add it
I feel like to make this fight longer all the qtes should be added plus I feel the drones and laser things should act as Forcefield generators ie he has a Forcefield unless you destroy the drones also add his laser wings to when you’re fighting as sonic cus those are cool as hell
I felt like something was missing with the in-game QTE. Sonic just dodges one blast from Supreme and he's suddenly in his face. The cut version actually shows him get there with a few extra dodges, but it still feels underwhelming since there isn't a cool finisher for the QTE like the previous bosses.
Sega made Supreme = Giganto Reskin with some little changes
Fan fixed Supreme = Supreme
Would’ve been cool if this Titan’s speed was just far faster then the others.
Was supreme given more health?
He was unchaged but played with level 1 stats to make the fight longer and showcase as many things as I can in one fight.
@@emyxam6418 Ah ok.
amazing
Something i didn't understand was when i got close and started wailing on him. He would go for the attack and i would parry it. Only for there to be a cutscene of sonic getting yeeted by a laser and there was nothingi could do to avoid avoid said attack. Was i doing something wrong?
You are supposed to attack the little drones surrounding him like I do in the video.
@@emyxam6418 I realize that a little late but i still beat him all the same. Thanks for explaining though, i appreciate that.
this might piss off alot of people, but.. i actually like supreme‘s boss fight as a whole.
its more of a nice change-of-pace from just hoping for the best from giganto- like it‘s a harder modified-version of the 1st boss. you expect it to be the same as when you fought giganto, but you have to do certain things to make the fight more easier.
aka, use the 2% braincells you‘ve lost during the entire hype of the game lol
I agree with your opinion
I think the gun canon qte is missing here.
If they get it back into the game maybe it's best to slow it down a bit, in the last of the qte's he goes up in the air and shoots you, Sonic dodges it but it's so fast that it just seems like Sonic avoided being crushed by him
Honestly yeah, it's the same problem as the vanilla QTE. It's way too fast for us to really get what is happening the first time we watch it.
Something i did not like in this game is how easy the bosses are
I be playing on hard and yet i don't find these lads hard there still very very fun i love frontiers
Yeah ngl these are all giganto animations just with Supreme exclusive abilities
(This isn’t a jab at the UA-camr that made this just a just at sega)
Ok nvm the part with cannon is cool
Dang, they need to put these in at some point
I think you miss one unused QTE. Remember when supreme knocked sonic a bit far and shoot the sniper but sonic just dodged it? In this QTE supreme shoot it a couple of times
Have you tired adding the wings into the actual fight?
All I did to activate the unused QTE was using a code with the Hedgemod manager, I didn't mod anything myself, it was left in the game's file.
If someone would be to add the wings back it would take more work to make it function than just "datamining"
the qte is amazing but it looks a bit rushed which is why they didn't put it in probably
I think you forgot the one where supreme grabs sonic throws him far away and then shoots a shot at him
SEGA, PLZ ADD! If this is because of a deadline having to be met, and you can add this in an update, all will be forgiven with this boss.
@Blue Blaze
Adding this QTE won't change anything, the boss fight will STILL be disappointing.
Sonic team please rework supreme!!!!!!!
hey, can you explain how to active this secret QTE in the games files please?
You just have to download the file , I not sure what’s it called though
@@best_mate456 do you have any link to give please?
@@Link-Ling Download the hedgemod manager. Then go in the "Codes" tab and then in the "gameplay" section you should find the unused supreme QTE box.
@@emyxam6418 yeah I saw this when I updated the codes, thanks !
EPIC
I hope thet Edith the dlcs or updates they rework supremo because for my mine i Think is a good battle
this is cool and all but why is is neck so long?
Because it's just built that way, no other reason it's just created that way. Either that or as these QTEs have shown it's for a bigger biting range
The SA2 shoes in super form is a mod?
What were your stats for these runs?
The videos without the HUD were all at level 1 except for the new version of supreme from the 3rd DLC, which was at max stats.
You missed Supreme's laser and biting QTE
It's an old video. At the time of recording these QTE were completely broken.
Is it just me or does the unused QTE just look...
Photoshopped in or like a sticker?
Ik it's scrapped content so ofc it won't look like the final product, but it still looks so out of place.
Yeah, it's due to those animations being unpolished due to time constraints so hopefully when they make it into the game they will be a lot more polished.
How do you dodge and cyloop this guy
The code works if i activate hmc mod?
4:03
Is dificulti normal por hard
Where can you fight these unused animations ?
We have some unused things of the end too?
No wings?🥺
Is dificulti normal or hard
Can’t you just avoid the drones