You may never have used a Angels Horn. I got gifted one and I have zero complaints. Is it a life long table? No. Its definitely replaceable however it is PERFECT for any newbie without being cost prohibitive. Plug and play.
I would have done the Rega at #1, The Pro-Ject Carbon at #2, Fluance RT 81 at #3, I would have added a Music Hall MMF Mark 1 at #4, and the Denon DP-300F at #5. These are all proven performers with decent build quality with the Rega being built a little better than most. I wouldn't have had the Angel Horn, Sony or Audio Technica anywhere on this list, because when you start too cheap, you will have problems in build quality and other problems. When new people come to vinyl, any sign of problems and they will quickly get out of it. I want newer or existing people to vinyl to continue to carry the torch long after I'm gone. You don't want to add Bluetooth to a turntable as one more thing that can go wrong, you want your table to spin records and do it well at a constant speed. A cheap phono stage that would be effective for a lot of people would be a Schiit Mani 2 at $189, which would give a new person a lot of what vinyl is about without breaking the bank and it will do both moving magnet and moving coil. As a side note for numbers #6 and #7, I would add at #6, a NAD C BEE-316 integrated amp at $399 or Music Hall A 15.3 integrated at $349.00,(this would negate the need for the Schiit, Mani unless you want to use Low output, Moving Coil Cartridges) but I would lean towards the Music Hall (because it has a pre-out function, which would allow it to be used as just a preamp so that you can add another amplifier to it later, further boosting power for future needs and the power cord can be disconnected from the unit, the NAD power cord is built in). The Music Hall has more inputs, 5 not including the built in phono stage, this will allow you to use a Bluetooth streamer that you can buy later and at #7, a pair of Wharfe Dale C225 at $299 or C220 at $249 and you can add a sub later, like the Wharfe Dale WH-DH8 $429, Bowers and Wilkins ASW 608 or SVS SB-1000 both at $599. This type of system, while not breaking the bank, will give a new person or existing person a good foundation in which to build upon and can obviously be bought like anything else in stages.
I had a question about a few different options for TTs. I am currently between the Audio Technica LP60x, Audio Technica LP3, and the Fluance RT81+ as I am a beginner and am not looking for something to completely break the bank. I understand most of the differences in these I would say but was wondering what you would suggest if you were to buy one starting from scratch.
LP3 for sure! Replaceable headshell makes for easy cartridge swap/upgrade or stylus replacement. Being fully automatic makes life easy with vinyl! DO NOT touch that tone-arm, if you have a heavy hand! Too many people do not even use the lift, and the result is many broken off "needles" (30 bucks for an el-cheapo!) and ruined records coming through my friend's HiFi store. The RT81 ... might as well go to the RT82 for a few bucks more, as it has better speed control! But the LP3 is totally automatic, so for a beginner, as well as long term, that is easier to live with than the manual Fluance tables, good and popular as they are - as well as safer for your vinyl :) (I have nodded off on classical music, and my auto-machines turn off instead of running for hours in the end groove) I have vintage gear and a new MusicHall (Pro-Ject) fully manual, that sounds superb, but the ones I use are my vintage full auto machines! The LP3 is as good as any vintage 70s turntable formerly in the 100 to 400 dollar range, and it is new with warranty and should last many years :)
So it I get the BT version, I don’t have to use it as if it as Bluetooth version? Does it come with the cables to do do? Great review! Also, it’s for my 24 year daughter, that has never had a TT
Doesn't Bluetooth and USB turn that analog record playback into a digital signal . You know "NOT ANALOG "? Kinda defeats the purpose in my mind might as well get a cd or just steam it
Correct but you can utilize a DAC and amplifier to convert it back to analog. Most mixers or controllers come with a amplifier so just a little DAC is a big investment to jump up the sound quality.
i don´t understand the concept of starter or beginers system ,i would think the better it is , for starters or already with lot´s of years of using it(the format), it might make a person having the first time a worst image of sound making it not wanting to use the format for being not happy with the first equipment he had, i had the luck of starting with a pioneer turntable from late 60´s as the receiver i got ,it is still good for todays turntables or amplifiers this if compared with the first two models refered here not being half the quality of a late 60´s turntable, a PL-43 or 45 not sure now but my second was my fathers early 70´s turntable that i still use today not finding a better one refering to the Pioneer exclusive series P3, it´s a pitty my father having sold it´s two power amplifiers and pre only keeping the speakers to his home studio assembled in 1970 with some altec lansing first similar to the pioneer´s exclusive 2401twin from his exclusive system ,having also a reel deck ,i think it was a studer or AKAI , the stuider was in the studio so not sure and having received all he had last year because he passed away today i have a lot of good devices from me and his ,my family was very musical ,even my grandfather had a very good system in mono a tube amplifier with two huge speakers and a garrard turntable, all was 70 watts of power but a powerfull 70 watts sound ,this compared to the late 80´s or 90´s amplifiers i tried, the Fluance seems better and the cartridge is very similar to what pioneer was using in 79 to 83 plastic frame built by CEC turntable common to other known brands, including CEC cheaper line at the time and audio-technica today is releasing turntables but not their quality we were used to in the 70´s, and Pro-ject around 1.000€ as such a low quality ,Ortofon in the past use to be the same as assured quality ,today it´s a more conventional brand having what i call bad cartridges and stylus the OM wich today are bad the similar cartridges in early 80´s released with Dual turntables some having dual branded in the side of the cartridge were very good ,high quality sound, like the newer debut pro-ject it as a very bad sound ,how can you say it´s good ,maybe conected to a very expensive amplifier and speakers,i talked to a guy who was selling is pro-ject turntable ,tthe model that as only the shape of the turntable carbon fiber arm a engine put aside the turntable itself with manual change of speed ,our hands even after being cleaned releases a protective coat with a bit of fat ,so changing belts with our own hands it makes it at correct speed till the third maybe change of speed this also with a tube pre-amplifier ,amplifier and speakers from pro-ject he sold everything looking new a few monthes ago by 250€ ,if it is good he would have keep it instead of buying a 76 technics TURNTABLE model with a new acoustic dimension integrated amplifier now known as NAD and some rogers speakers (good ones), for 250€ looking new, this from the origianl owner, those that don´t have earth cable most of them need a earth cable, a friend of mine bought a project and had a constant hum with a improved earth cable it disapeared ,he had the same turntable refered before with a sumiko oyster the sound was not bad but not good also, the 76 technics cartridge 207C is far better than this new one by sumiko or the 2mred till the bronze which is already nice are very bad cartridges compared to older and cheaper ones, having also the doble or triple hours of use if not more ,i bought a grado recentelly for a promotional price and when going to get it from the store i look at the stylus and ask the owner(a friend of mine) if the tip had fallen ,to what he replied ,"no,today all are like this", to resume any turntable who does not sound a lot better than a good cd player is not good, only had a pre-amplifier from technics for my mc cartridge in 79, still have the turntable and the pre-amplifier, the SL-1000MKII, now i´m using the AT-art9 ,not as good as the older one but already usable
► 7. Angels Horn H019 - geni.us/5PTcI
► 6. Rega Planar 2 - geni.us/NpBZMe
► 5. Denon DP-300F - geni.us/Cbj09
► 4. Sony PS-LX310BT - geni.us/gxdfBf
► 3. Fluance RT81 Turntable - geni.us/x5G1
► 2. Audio-Technica AT-LP60X - geni.us/f1A0BE0
► 1. Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO - geni.us/8tAMHq
Damn, that Sony looks minimalist and handsome
No way I would include any Angel's Horn product on this list. Nor a Victrola. This video is definitely targeted at vinyl newbies.
Whats the best turntable and system you would recommend ?
You may never have used a Angels Horn. I got gifted one and I have zero complaints. Is it a life long table? No. Its definitely replaceable however it is PERFECT for any newbie without being cost prohibitive. Plug and play.
I would have done the Rega at #1, The Pro-Ject Carbon at #2, Fluance RT 81 at #3, I would have added a Music Hall MMF Mark 1 at #4, and the Denon DP-300F at #5. These are all proven performers with decent build quality with the Rega being built a little better than most. I wouldn't have had the Angel Horn, Sony or Audio Technica anywhere on this list, because when you start too cheap, you will have problems in build quality and other problems. When new people come to vinyl, any sign of problems and they will quickly get out of it.
I want newer or existing people to vinyl to continue to carry the torch long after I'm gone. You don't want to add Bluetooth to a turntable as one more thing that can go wrong, you want your table to spin records and do it well at a constant speed. A cheap phono stage that would be effective for a lot of people would be a Schiit Mani 2 at $189, which would give a new person a lot of what vinyl is about without breaking the bank and it will do both moving magnet and moving coil.
As a side note for numbers #6 and #7, I would add at #6, a NAD C BEE-316 integrated amp at $399 or Music Hall A 15.3 integrated at $349.00,(this would negate the need for the Schiit, Mani unless you want to use Low output, Moving Coil Cartridges) but I would lean towards the Music Hall (because it has a pre-out function, which would allow it to be used as just a preamp so that you can add another amplifier to it later, further boosting power for future needs and the power cord can be disconnected from the unit, the NAD power cord is built in).
The Music Hall has more inputs, 5 not including the built in phono stage, this will allow you to use a Bluetooth streamer that you can buy later and at #7, a pair of Wharfe Dale C225 at $299 or C220 at $249 and you can add a sub later, like the Wharfe Dale WH-DH8 $429, Bowers and Wilkins ASW 608 or SVS SB-1000 both at $599. This type of system, while not breaking the bank, will give a new person or existing person a good foundation in which to build upon and can obviously be bought like anything else in stages.
Any good ones witching 250-300 range?
I had a question about a few different options for TTs. I am currently between the Audio Technica LP60x, Audio Technica LP3, and the Fluance RT81+ as I am a beginner and am not looking for something to completely break the bank. I understand most of the differences in these I would say but was wondering what you would suggest if you were to buy one starting from scratch.
LP3 for sure! Replaceable headshell makes for easy cartridge swap/upgrade or stylus replacement. Being fully automatic makes life easy with vinyl! DO NOT touch that tone-arm, if you have a heavy hand! Too many people do not even use the lift, and the result is many broken off "needles" (30 bucks for an el-cheapo!) and ruined records coming through my friend's HiFi store.
The RT81 ... might as well go to the RT82 for a few bucks more, as it has better speed control!
But the LP3 is totally automatic, so for a beginner, as well as long term, that is easier to live with than the manual Fluance tables, good and popular as they are - as well as safer for your vinyl :)
(I have nodded off on classical music, and my auto-machines turn off instead of running for hours in the end groove)
I have vintage gear and a new MusicHall (Pro-Ject) fully manual, that sounds superb, but the ones I use are my vintage full auto machines! The LP3 is as good as any vintage 70s turntable formerly in the 100 to 400 dollar range, and it is new with warranty and should last many years :)
So it I get the BT version, I don’t have to use it as if it as Bluetooth version? Does it come with the cables to do do? Great review! Also, it’s for my 24 year daughter, that has never had a TT
it's crazy that you would say the sony ps one is not visually appealing... what? that is beautiful.
The audio technical P60. Is the best here? I've had mine for two years never a problem
would you recommend purchasing it as a beginner
@@jeevikaarora8837 did you purchase? Im also a beginner haha
10:00 Could you get a little more dust on that record? Yikes!
Nice summary for each of the turntables, i’d also like more pricing info. otherwise i have to do more work… That should not be necessary
Reloop 7000 MK2 all the way👍😊
Fluance dont ship to Europe, US and CA only🙈
Watching that person scratching that record makes me go cold inside, I would never do that to my records or turntable.
You can't spell crap without rap...
YUCK! This is a pure sales pitch, not a good quality review and test!
Doesn't Bluetooth and USB turn that analog record playback into a digital signal . You know "NOT ANALOG "? Kinda defeats the purpose in my mind might as well get a cd or just steam it
Correct but you can utilize a DAC and amplifier to convert it back to analog. Most mixers or controllers come with a amplifier so just a little DAC is a big investment to jump up the sound quality.
i don´t understand the concept of starter or beginers system ,i would think the better it is , for starters or already with lot´s of years of using it(the format), it might make a person having the first time a worst image of sound making it not wanting to use the format for being not happy with the first equipment he had, i had the luck of starting with a pioneer turntable from late 60´s as the receiver i got ,it is still good for todays turntables or amplifiers this if compared with the first two models refered here not being half the quality of a late 60´s turntable, a PL-43 or 45 not sure now but my second was my fathers early 70´s turntable that i still use today not finding a better one refering to the Pioneer exclusive series P3, it´s a pitty my father having sold it´s two power amplifiers and pre only keeping the speakers to his home studio assembled in 1970 with some altec lansing first similar to the pioneer´s exclusive 2401twin from his exclusive system ,having also a reel deck ,i think it was a studer or AKAI , the stuider was in the studio so not sure and having received all he had last year because he passed away today i have a lot of good devices from me and his ,my family was very musical ,even my grandfather had a very good system in mono a tube amplifier with two huge speakers and a garrard turntable, all was 70 watts of power but a powerfull 70 watts sound ,this compared to the late 80´s or 90´s amplifiers i tried, the Fluance seems better and the cartridge is very similar to what pioneer was using in 79 to 83 plastic frame built by CEC turntable common to other known brands, including CEC cheaper line at the time and audio-technica today is releasing turntables but not their quality we were used to in the 70´s, and Pro-ject around 1.000€ as such a low quality ,Ortofon in the past use to be the same as assured quality ,today it´s a more conventional brand having what i call bad cartridges and stylus the OM wich today are bad the similar cartridges in early 80´s released with Dual turntables some having dual branded in the side of the cartridge were very good ,high quality sound, like the newer debut pro-ject it as a very bad sound ,how can you say it´s good ,maybe conected to a very expensive amplifier and speakers,i talked to a guy who was selling is pro-ject turntable ,tthe model that as only the shape of the turntable carbon fiber arm a engine put aside the turntable itself with manual change of speed ,our hands even after being cleaned releases a protective coat with a bit of fat ,so changing belts with our own hands it makes it at correct speed till the third maybe change of speed this also with a tube pre-amplifier ,amplifier and speakers from pro-ject he sold everything looking new a few monthes ago by 250€ ,if it is good he would have keep it instead of buying a 76 technics TURNTABLE model with a new acoustic dimension integrated amplifier now known as NAD and some rogers speakers (good ones), for 250€ looking new, this from the origianl owner, those that don´t have earth cable most of them need a earth cable, a friend of mine bought a project and had a constant hum with a improved earth cable it disapeared ,he had the same turntable refered before with a sumiko oyster the sound was not bad but not good also, the 76 technics cartridge 207C is far better than this new one by sumiko or the 2mred till the bronze which is already nice are very bad cartridges compared to older and cheaper ones, having also the doble or triple hours of use if not more ,i bought a grado recentelly for a promotional price and when going to get it from the store i look at the stylus and ask the owner(a friend of mine) if the tip had fallen ,to what he replied ,"no,today all are like this", to resume any turntable who does not sound a lot better than a good cd player is not good, only had a pre-amplifier from technics for my mc cartridge in 79, still have the turntable and the pre-amplifier, the SL-1000MKII, now i´m using the AT-art9 ,not as good as the older one but already usable