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Guys this is not hate. This is critisism. Kpop stans really need to understand that and stop beign so goddamn sensitive. I like a lot of these groupstoobut yeah those performances were really not it. And there is nothing wrong with ppl pointing out the obvious
@@Vnkylz267 i mean they were promoting ON which is one of their most intense performance, so i guess they trained so much and sometimes it happens when your body and all your muscles (even the cords) give up on you for a second
@@intearnet6926momo has no talent?? Oh please, she dances harder and better than most female idols ive seen, and her rap is pretty good AND she has written multiple B-sides and songs for her Misamo sub-unit. Dont even go there lmfao
@@newmoon6549 No one deserves hate but criticism and they got more of hate than criticism people should understand that bullying idols is not a solution but pointing out mistakes and giving suggestions is. Btw this is for every idol who received hate
@@newmoon6549 no one deserves hate wtf is wrong with you that's like saying "oh well this girl deserves the hate she got she dressed in joggers today rather than a dress like she does every single other day" like no that's not how it works so stfu
@@beyondthescene8410 im not even a gg stan but when that happens with ggs they get so much hate, you don't have to always excuse it when it comes to bgs lol
I think momo sounds very similar to the track tbh. I get why ppl are hating, but at the same time, she stylized her voice that way so it won't sound as good in person? Idk how to describe it, maybe its just me but i thought she was fine in this clip 😅
The twice one was so upsetting, Momo genuinely looked upset after this had happened. She’s gotten hate for her voice before and that’s one of moments it got to a height again
You're underestimating other members and judging too harsh without knowing their true potential Edit: They all care for each others most and you guys are trying to ruin things up by such comparison, remember comparison is thief of joy and their unity cannot be diversified.
@whyshoulditellyou1194 have u listened to their ACTUAL lives? Like the stage w Charlie puth and their inkigayo encores?? Their concerts are all either prerecorded, loud backtrack, or lipsync. Literally most of kpop does this, so it's so refreshing to see idols that can actually sing and aren't SCARED to death 🤪
@@tinanguyen1992 that's a faulty allegation, they sang live a thousands of times and we've seen that, even they proved it by their actions like screaming, changing words or taping. You can definitely identify if they sang live and we've seen that as well, there's no doubt they're great singers with great voice, specially Jimin and Tae who got Angelic unique and deep voices. You need to look at the reality a bit
love how fans are quickly in finding explanations for when their idols are not in good shape but when is someone for a group they don't like they turn into a excuse to hate them
Bruh they have to celebrate their wins While singing, they are just standing there, can't they sing? In fact they have so many members that's why every member has still less lines, can't they sing even that? It's their fkn job
@@user-ik8oo5wo6z His voice didn't crack. His actual performance was great. It's only himself who was not satisfied with the stage because, as we all know, he's a perfectionist. It was cold, and he got a cold, but he sang so good that nobody noticed he was sick at that time.
its actually harder to sing after dancing than while dancing. on iland, rain tested the applicants with this. also, another thing is that they dont hv their earpiece, which is the reason why they can find the key and tune their pitch edit: wow this got way more attention than i expected just to add, yes theyre trained for this, but it is still hard to hear yourself on stage because the music is loud, and not just the music but the booming of the sound system literally reaches your chest (ive been on stage, dancing tho, but it felt like that. like the speakers were controlling my heart). besides this, they record multiple times per day, not just the one you see on screen, and their dances arent the easiest. they probably also havent eaten the whole day because dancing after eating is the worst possible decision ever. should they get more vocal training? absolutely but you have to understand that their schedule is jammed pack. they have comebacks every half yearly, concerts, fansigns, fanmeets, kcons, cfs and others, on top of training (enhypen literally lives and breathes the airport) so maybe be a little more empathetic before throwing hate to them. not to mention a lot of companies force idols out of their range (twice for example in ycsm and le sserafim's fearless, where chaewon, yunjin and sakura are more comfortable with higher notes)
Momo is still traumatized after all the hate she got off that encore stage… she sang a lot better on right the next encore, but her mood was already down, and now even on latest encores she’s often facing away or not interacting with members and camera as much. It’s literally just an encore, where idols are supposed to be able to mess around and have fun **after** getting a win. There is no right for someone to hate on an encore performance just because they *expected* good vocals. Your disappointment is your own fault, let the idols breathe after an exhausting performance, skip some lines, talk instead of sing, mess around with their voice. Yes there are some idols who aren’t the best at singing but excel at something else. But even the best singers sometimes have a bad day and you shouldn’t judge a vocal just based on one encore stage. anyways, too many words, i think most of this should be fairly obvious.
You can still be on key and have fun. A lot of idols sing good while stille being able to enjoy themselves. Momo is just a bad vocalist and jype does nothing to help her improve
@@nino5505 Right, some people can still sound good while messing about. But Momo isn’t a Nayeon or Jihyo, she’s objectively a less stable vocalist and it shows even in other encore stages where she sounds more or less her best. But it doesn’t mean she deserves hate for not sounding perfect. She’s human after all
@@nino5505 in fact, jype has been ruining her vocals. that forced voice hasn't been good for her but she's constantly forced to do it. in scientist you can hear that her vocals are getting slightly better after not using the forced voice
@@meowfdt yes of course she doesn’t deserve death tgreats over this hut valid criticism isn’t hate, she’s 7years into her career of course twice works a lot so it’s understandable they’re tired but there’s no reason that she haven’t progressed a little bit.
@@wise5746 It's you again, you are really hater of jungkook!! You are here just to insult jungkook! Oh God, I remember you said to my reply that you are an army hahahaha but insulting jungkook because het got praised and most recognition! your life is miserable and you are pathethic! You are just pretender loving ot7 but hating one member because he is not your bias and the amount of people love his songs that's make you jealous.
Let them celebrate their WINS. This isn't right to hate them for skipping lines, not being stable! And to the newly debuted group, give them time to be much more stable?
I'm not saying that hating on them is fine but they're literally just standing still. what's all that training for if they aren't stable? I'm pretty sure they were given time to improve their vocals during their training period, you saying we should give them more time just proves that they're not ready to debut.
@Queen Winter How could u have the audacity to judge them while coming from a background where ur fav aespa, who have never experienced live singing, lol
Literally tho people need to know it's normal to song off pitch or have voice cracks and it doesn't make them a bad singer or something..like in the end they are talented enough to debut in such a tough survival industry...
its not abt wether or not they sang poorly at the encore stage, but some people are using this opportunity to attack the idols and call them untalented or bad singers and i think thats why some are so focused on defending their faves.
@@hussainara8832 I agree although I think we have to defend cause anti who are clearly more than kids will take this as an excuse to hate in groups ( none of my favs are actually on this video tho so I’m just saying this to spread awareness)
It’s so sad how the standards have been lowered through out the years, these days fans will praise their idols just for singing live, they don’t care if their live singing actually sucks, I think there’s a difference between having fun/not taking it seriously and just straight up being bad at singing
So true!! I've watched so many idols sing perfectly even though they're having fun with their encore stage and even jumping around. A bad encore is a bad encore, no excuses but it doesn't mean that an idol can't sing. I have read so many comments telling that they are tired, etc. But they are tired too during concerts so why can't they do it on encore stages? I'm just stating my own opinion, no hate on any idols.
yes lol i dont blame the artists but the fandoms are really taking kpop into their religion or something that they gotta defend and praise no matter what 😭
Ikr it really different from last gen before them it really clear how their standard and quality got lower this day group and company they only think about oh it ok we have autotuned or just lipsync it not like fans this day care or know about this
@@zoey579lol that's other way around...jk fans are too much toxic and can't digest the fact that the other 6 members are hardworking as well...only talking about jungkook when he is working and when 3 are in the military,2 are ready to go and jungkook was the last one to come with his solo work doesn't mean he actually is only the best and hardworking in the group...and first go and see how you solos of jungkook act and then blame the other 6's solo stans
Dude, I didn't know they had to sing at an encore stage I thought they are just celebrating their win by singing and being funny!🤣 Edit: I don't know why these ppl in the reply section are fighting for some useless reason😂 ya'll it's up to the idols to sing or not in encore stages. They can do whatever they want. Who cares whether they sing in encore stages. It's not up to you to take decisions on their lives🤷🏻♀️, so just go and RELAX!🤦🏻♀️
For some of them you can see that the idols don't have in-ears in, which means they can't hear themselves or the music clearly over the noise of the crowd and reverb around the stadium, so it's fair that their vocals aren't the most stable. In the end, encores should just be for them to have fun and celebrate! ❤❤❤
@@aiiinaa1344 As army i am sorry that many army sounds ignorant but not all. i never meant anything like that and i would never say anything bad about other groups either and i am not making bts best of everything and i am being real here that they are not because they are human it's not like i am putting them down either. Each groups is amazing on their own no need to compare them. The only thing separate them is just which one you want to stan. This is long sorry want my point to get across.
Momo had to strain her own voice to make it sound like the mv so ofc she’s not stable it’s uncomfortable straining your voice y’all in the comments make me laugh💀💀 Like ok idc if you think Momo is a good Vocalist or not just don’t be rude to her as if y’all can sing😍😍
All people strain their voices at some point. Momo is simply just not an impressive vocalist. Add the fact that she's very nasal and pushes her larynx up.
@@user-rq5iq8co2f momo is a good vocalist, however when she’s quit literally celebrating her win and taking that in she’s gonna be rough she isn’t exactly gonna be doing a high note like taeyoun is she
in fact Jimin didn't skip that part voluntarily, he just didn't have the microphone at the time, moreover he even hurried to get it back and finish singing before his verse came through. Please inquire correctly
Honestly i wouldn't mind if he skipped his whole verse just because he wanted to, they're celebrating their win not performing. Why would someone want to sing and dance and be perfect and everything when they just won a award
Jeon Jungkook is the main vocalist for a reason, he practised singing while running and exercising....His voice barely cracks and he has a perfect pitch, he is highly professional and dude can literally hit high notes back to back for two to three hours that too while lying on the sofa being drunk....Only delulus would argue about his live singing skills😏
I hope y’all realize that in some of these the idols don’t have ear-ins and literally can’t hear themselves. It’s hard to be on key when you can’t hear the key 💀 Edit: I am a classically trained musician and have a lot of experience with in-ears and have worked with plenty of singers. They also have their bad performances as well. And no, I’m not excusing awful singing but a lot of fans that have no idea what it actually takes to sing on pitch every time need to get real with themselves. (also it needs to be said that ur idols achievements aren’t ur own . It’s just pathetic to think that you are better than someone based on others achievements💀)
It's hard to be encore when you have loud music playing in the background and you're trying to sing with all that going on in the background. Respect to anyone who sings on stage infront of millions because it's not an easy thing to do even infront of a small crowd.
@@lalaa5600 Probably because it was one of the first performances of a tour. The more you perform within a short time span, the more it takes out of you. Your voice can only take so much over a short period of time. Ever notice how at award shows performances are almost perfect? Because they only have to sing that one time. There are alot of factors involved like also their range. Another thing to consider is voice training. Some singers don't have any and just sing not using the correct techniques.
@@wise5746😂look at yourself and you say you dont hate him😂....go and watch some of the Jk's lives...In suchwita , he hit those notes while eating....thats the real vocalist....bark as much as you want, even non armys know that only Jk can sing well in bts
The reason they got hate wasn’t because they skipped lines.. it’s because of their vocal performance they didn’t sing well and also at the end the members except for jungkook left their drums on the stage and left without greeting the staff, they also forgot the trophy on the stage. I still remember the buzz it created in the Korean side of the fandom, there were speculations that the part was left on the broadcast without editing on purpose
well jk has been singing all the time in his live with or without music/ mic for hours,by the way non army's know better who's the one that can actually sing live well in that group 😅
@@user-tp8dd1vs5m yess.. SM groups are another level .. they sounds sooo good in anytime, anywhere, everytime, everywhere, every situation n conditions 💖💖
all the critizm is rational. jungkook never get hate for his singing skill cuz everyone know he is good. sorry but this is fact, other member isn't get hate but this is critic.
@@goldenhime8404 🤣🤣 will actually agree, because I also want his individual career because he have his own life and each member also have their individual life isn't it , so bts should get disband and if not atleast jk should go solo , his talent is hidden in group and comes out excellent when solo.
im sorry but what?😭 dont misunderstand, im also an army for years now (they were my first ever ult group), but what you just said doesn't make any sense lmao. As I know encore stages are where these groups celebrate their win and where their allowed/required to ACTUALLY sing live with NO back-up vocals, and you saying that their performance sounded fine DURING the actual performance, where its literally more likely that they were actually lipsyncing or being backed up by back-up vocals, so meaning the encore stages are more "real" and live than the actual performance, and there have also been instances where these shows actually edit or "clean" the performances of idols before putting it here in yt, especially if its a pre-recorded performance
@@gabeitch6721 chill dude. encore stage isn't the main performance and they did great in that. in encore stage idols just celebrate their win and do random stuffs. things DO NOT need to be perfect they are just trying to celebrate
@@gabeitch6721 A SM stan saying I am also an ARMY seems and sounds so ironic lmao.If Incore is that important for y'all then why not telling your idols to just attend incores and sing in there and stop giving y'all official comebacks with that much preparation for a MV and stage performances? Hypocrisy is everywhere.Judging someone for just one unstable performance, ignoring their past 7 years' performances is so funny.
JK still belted F5 note in encore while playing with perfection. Only others were goofy, Jin could easily ing perfectly if he wanted but he was dancing 🤣 lmao.
@@mim9048 You can play and sing well at the same time, jungkook always did that and it was never a problem for him, they are singers, it's their profession
Some idols like Jungkook are naturally talented with ability to match pitch near perfectly most times, but there are many other idols that are not, this is a good example. Not being able to hear certainly doesn't help though.
He's not naturally talented. I remember on their show(BTS ON STAGE, I think?) was that he(and Tae probably) were the only ones who got vocal lessons while Jimin had to watch them from the windows.
@@POP-nm1ix Not just anybody can sing well. Vocal lessons can only do so much for you, and they're only usually done to ensure that the singer is using correct techniques that are specifically designed to try to preserve their voice as much as possible. Without vocal lessons, when projecting your voice outward for example you risk wrecking your vocal cords or developing vocal nodules both of which can put an immediate and severe hold on your career if you are a musician. All vocalists get vocal lessons. It's industry standard. It's the injury that can happen by not that encourages these companies to make sure their talent is appropriately trained. It's partly why idols have a long training period. To be able to sing well you have to have the voice and ear for it, and these things both occur naturally. You are either naturally inclined or you're just not. There's not a lot that can be done to change this. If you absolutely needed vocal training to be able to sing well then I can guarantee you that Justin Bieber and the like would have remained an unknown teenager.
@@allyssatan I don't enjoy BTS' music nowadays either, I don't like Jungkook's music direction now, but if I'm being unbiased when judging people's talent which I should be and am then it's undeniable that he has natural music talent to some degree. Of course he's formally trained relentlessly for many years in music as well, so not everything is natural, but it takes natural talent to know how and when to best use these.
@@gyrthez246ok but when you don't have the talent to sing why even be in a idol group. Rapping or vocals are something that are essential in a group because at the end of the day they are musicians. They write songs and sing and rap them. Don't excuse your favourite idols bad vocals.
"Why do they look so scared on the stage?" "Why are they scared to perform?" "Why do they have to take a hiatus because the stage gives them a panic attack?" "Why are they scared to sing?" Also "They suck." "What a waste." "They're just awful." "Disband now." "They're so untalented." "Company embarrassments." "Um, they're supposed to be perfect. They trained for it. If they aren't perfect every single time then they are just a waste."
@@joisiemagee of course they can sing but that doesn’t mean they are gonna be perfect every single time. Especially in a event where they are meant to goof around and enjoy themselves.
@@joisiemagee think of any athlete or any other professional. They can have a bad game or mess up sometimes even though they are trained. That doesn’t make them any less professional or talented.
@@meiuzumaki7440 but the point is they aren’t even just goofing off or having fun - this is, for a good few of them, their actual level of talent. It’s just hidden underneath auto tune and loud backing tracks or even worse, lip syncing. Everyone is allowed a bad day, of course, but I refuse to accept ‘artists’ that are just pretty faces rather than having actual vocal or rap talent.
Also BTS didn't have their In-Ear Monitors, so they couldn't hear their voices well. That's a crucial fact for vocalists, thats also probably why Jin was surprised while he started singing and Jimin skipping his line. (I think Le Sserafim also didn't have their ear pieces)
These people be acting brave but none of them can even do the choreo for the first verse of ON and More and More forget about singing along with it they wouldn't be able to even dance 😭🤣
@@yoobeepedmeinthebeep out of point but I hope u know these encores are usually live and these performances are recorded 1 day or two earlier and the results do have some percent of live media vote soo they were definitely not teired But my point isn't that They r just try to celebrate and they r showing it through singing it's fine it doesn't have to be mv like and it's fine if they have voice cracks and stuff
@@afifahdiyah9903 in your dream. We already saw who is singing like donkey shut up! This is why they are just nugus and he is the world cup performer. Go to sleep
@@mybiggestlovejungkookyeah especially after Jimin's encore performance, everyone literally throwing shit on him ,I hope when they come back his voice will be developed again, he repressed and became F vocalist, I hope he overcome his problems soon .
it doesn’t look like bts (besides jungkook i’m guessing cause that boy will always give his 200%) were focusing on their vocals in that encore. at least from the short clips shown. jin also looked confused ?? besides the voice crack at the beginning , v sounded fine. in general , i’ve noticed bts don’t put a lot of effort into their encores. which is fine because you can really see how hard they try for their actual performances. they sing live almost all of the time so i don’t think they need to prove anything with a silly little encore.
Even their concerts are good which sets the precedent for their ability to perform well, so I really don't see why idols have to always put in 100% when encores are for them to celebrate their wins
@@cuddlemegently their encores are mainly them playing around with idols around them or eachother. it’s not the best show of their vocals seen as their being unseriousZ
@@faceofvision they have so many encores where they are doing great and they even sang so stable without a backtrack. So judging their vocals with this video only is bs.
@@wise5746bro literally hates their life that they have to comment on every comment that is about jungkook. 💀 do you not have anything better to do? Do you feel proud of yourself after hating on people and doing the devil's work? 😂 I always wonder what goes on in people like you head. Like just admit you're jealous of them cause I know right that behind that screen this is you: 🧔♀️ anyways do what you like just some advice maybe find something more productive than writing hate comments all day! It might would get you somewhere in life. ☺️ have a great day (atleast try to cause I know you're mentally unstable😔) praying for you🙏
@@hirundiliyanawaduge5280 hhh your fav can’t sing in live !! Go & watch his disaster Seven Encore where his voice cracked & escaping lots of Lyrics lines 😂😜
Keeping your voice stable right after doing some strong choreo is almost impossible bruh & the choreography of ON is too exhausting so let them catch their breath bro do these people want idols too fall sick or smth🗿
Yeah, but in encores you're not required to do your choreography. You're literally there to sing live to prove that you're worthy of winning _(and enjoying the win as well, but so many have mentioned that so I won't bother)._ Let's not put KPop idols on a pedistal since there will be some things they didn't master. More vocal-focused groups like Mamamoo sound wonderful on encore stages especially with their stage presence, while more choreo-focused groups like Aespa _(I think they're choreo-focused since many said they lipsync)_ tend to highlight their choreo more, thus forgetting to enhance their vocals. If your fav. doesn't sound good singing live, then they're good at something else. Some are better at rapping, some are batter at dancing, while some are total ACEs that could surprise you. These people in the video aren't that good in singing, so they must've practiced something else. That means you shouldn't make excuses for your favs and they don't deserve hate.
@@biglawturbo6703 I absolutely get your point but I am not trying to make excuses for any one. I said that ON is an extremely exhausting choreography & one of the hardest choreos of BTS so it must very hard for them to breathe after performing it. They weren't wearing in-ears hence, they can't hear themselves properly. It's totally wrong to say that the ones in the video don't sound good live judging on this one video. Idk much about the rest but all of the vocal line of bts sounds great singing live, they sound better than the recordings. Idols in general have such packed schedules so they all must be very tired & not all idols have great breath support like some do. Netizens should not hate on idols for skipping a line & having a mild voice crack when they are not even performing (like singing after they receive a prize).
le sserafim just debuted, it makes sense for them to be nervous and excited after their win. no kpop singer is gonna sound stable after winning which is emotional for them. let them live, why are people so judgmental. it isn't an actual performance.
Sakura and Chaewon debuted about 4yrs ago or so, popular, pretty used to it by now, very experienced, why did even they sound very unstable? Now, i dont agree with the extreme h@te either, BUT don't play the "rookie" card, it's like calling Wonyoung and Yujin of IVE or ViViZ "rookies" , just no
@@angelcwooah6481 after being disbanded for awhile, similar to other skills "use it or lise it" in not playing rookie in the sense of no control of their voice I'm playing rookie in the emotional sense of hard continuous work paying off with a win. A new experience with new members for former idols redebuting which adds another factor. Imagine losing your group, a lot of idols don't get to redebut so this probably feels like a miracle second chance to them
Ye but how come they don't sing live in their actual performances? Just because they're rookies doesn't mean they don't have to sing.. Their encore stage i get that they're unstable because they just won and are way to happy to really focus on giving their best performance ever.. But at least sing live one time (i know it's the company who is in charge of it)
There's a break tho they didn't perform the encore right after their orig performances, technically there's a break. If they can do it on their concerts why not on their music shows encore.
@@adriansacro6943 an encore is to have fun idk why youre getting all worked up even though it changes nothing to your life. You just wanna be a hater and its sad.
They couldn’t. And this channel is spreading misinformation they weren’t hated on but jungkook was praised for being on tune despite not hearing himself
It's probably because they don't have their in-ears on... If you sing in a stage that big with very loud background music without in-ears... YOU WILL NOT HEAR A THING! and it makes it hard to stay in tune
@@thanoscoloured_mfnot true, rap line and jungkook are the backbone, u can’t discredit jungkook because he’s the best singer, he has the most lines because he’s the most stable live singer. Without jungkook Bts’ vocal line would be astronomically weak, considering Bts songs are not hip hop centric anymore and more pop, u can’t deny Jungkook’s importance. He is just as important as rm, suga, and jhope.
@@No-mr4uk nope 👎🏼 It is only JK’s akgae & toxic solo Stans who try the degrade other members just to rise their fav !! And this video is the best example of their toxicity!!! Otherwise JK has many cracked moments including his last seven performance of BBC The One show where his voice was trembling & hanged many times but we are not toxic same as you to make video just to degrade JK !!!!
Namjoon more recently: "BTS would be a disaster without Jimin" and said the woman who keep Jimin in the group "saved BTS" 💅🏻 Jimin carried HYYH tour and most of Love Yourself tour where Jk sounded like he was dying 🤠
@@dooly13 You make me laugh. Jk is the best vocalist in BTS . He's the main vocalist and consistently has the most lines without any reason 😀. Girl I am a Blink and still can praise him and you're an Army and still acting like that. Embarrassing.
@@blinkot4615 I'm not an army, don't insult me like that. Lmao what about that? Then, I'm a Stay and still can notice jk sounds like he's fighting a cold everytime he sings, he's fr so unpleasant to hear 😭
I'm an Army but I do know that regardless of which group you stan you ought to support every member of that group... even if his or her performance is shortchanged on some days, i doubt you'd dare say that your fav group is better off without him or her 💔 im very sure that every member of bts or blackpink or skz or any other group has got their key part/ role to play to make up for other member's other's weaknesses, and thats why each of these groups shine more brightly as a whole. So stop saying "namjoon said this that..." because he and all of us know that bts is not bts if not for all these 7 members💜 its the same for your fav groups too👌
all the people in the comments making excuses on behalf of their faves😭 you can admit that the performance is not great yk its not gonna suddenly make them horrible singers
@@ristocrats247 yes some of the time. But before I continue you should know RAISE and nct are two of fav groups but just watching some of their performances you can clearly tell their lip syncing/not singing loud but I don't like this esp since both of these groups can sing really well live and it makes me sad that they don't have more live singingbin performances bc they are so good
Oh come on! At that moment, they don't really care whether they are singing perfect or not. They just want to celebrate their win. Haters never let them breath in peace for once.
@@bb-tt3te They have the chance to prove their skills during concerts and radios. All artists sing live during these times. So just having fun in their encore stages to celebrate their win is not a big deal for me.
@@lisafan1449 That means you include in the toxic fans ?? I think you are new army who doesn't know his vocals . He is on 2nd rank in vocaling in BTS . So how he can't sing !?? Go and see his solo song filter than come to me to say sorry about Jimin . He has amazing vocals in that song I bet you will shook after listening that song 😊
@@lisafan1449 Which live ?? You mean that his voice was not good in his live ?? How can you say him a bad singer 😡 . You think this not the whole fandom hates his voice . His voice is sweetest which makes many people jealous so they hate these sweet angels 😊💅
It’s like y’all asking for a whole nother performance after they just got done performing. How greedy🙄 They were celebrating, let them, peacefully. (Talking about the bts claim)
Not really but the question is how those singers can sing perfectly while dancing and being out of breath but then be standing and having not one stable line. When you are trained at singing, you don't automatically get bad in the next moment, you are at least decent all the time. And I am a multi stan by multiple groups but it's a fact that so many idols infact cannot sing and need autotune to sound decent
@@xkittyxxkatx But if that's the case, every encore stage should be bad because you said it's near impossible. But that's not it, some encore stages are AMAZING like many of BTS, NCT ect. so how comes they can do it with ease and others not? And it's a fact that not many fans want to hear, some idols cannot sing period. They NEED autotune and they NEED a loud backtrack to sound decent. Which I don't even mind because most of them get paid horribly anyway so they don't even earn that much from their main job to justify needing an amazing voice but let's not search for excuses when we all know not every idol is able to hit correct notes. They can have other strenghs like dancing or rapping but not everyone can sing
But V was good too 😮 I was very surprised in his solo era. Turns out he can sing really cool live when the song matches his tone. I've specifically re-listened to many live BTS performances and he sounds really stable even outside of his comfortable range. He's been my bias since the beginning of his solo era. Amazing guy
BTS hitting perfect notes while doing heavy choreo.... Antis: 😴 If you haven't appreciated them on their best days , stfu on their tired days/ off days.
We all know the groups mentioned here can sing live very well. I mean it's an encore stage right? I thought they were supposed to just enjoy their win not being concentrated on being the most stable.
fair enough, but is it possible to sound THAT far from the original performance tho ? im now questioning myself if they ALL even sing live. bc there’s no way that by just standing there, even if theyre not paying attention, it could sound off-tune like that. bc if thats the case, there should be lots of mistake in the original performance bc they’re dancing. theres no way their vocal would be perfect like that..? also im not a hater or anything. im saying ALL. ALL kpop idol bc ice seen lots if encore vs original perf and its just… disappointing..?
The point is. Encore stage is the only place on tv broadcast where they can show off their livesinging skill ability as an idol. If they can sing while dancing on stage, why they can't sing while enjoy the stage too? They don't have too perfectly sync the dance move, they just have to sing. The problem is, why they sounded very different. Thats the point. Because in encore stage they don't need to dance, they have stable normal breathing.
when you are a natural born good singer you can sing with no effort almost anytime, anywhere, but most kpop singers arent natural singers, they just have a mediocre voice that sounds better with autotune and thats good enough. An example is Ariana Grande when she is dancing or jumping she can sound tired or out of breath but you still can hear that her real voice is beautiful. I like to hear the Encores bc even if they are just playing around or taking it seriously you can recognize who is actually a singer with natural talent and who isnt. This days it doesnt matter, you can become a famous singer with not talent for it, not just in Kpop, everywhere. But is fun and surprising when you can actually hear a real one.
@@caraperegrine6936 I @Cara Peregrine I can only talk about BTS bc i stan them. They didn't have earphones in that encore stage. That's why Jin is confused.
Lol V just singing stable here. While Jin & Jimjn just skipped half line but still they sang the rest of Line!! They make the performance more fun & excited Do you have problem anti !!!
@@wise5746 shut up you are jungkook hater! Dude, why are u hating him? And u like his members? You are so gross as a person!!!!!! You are type of a person who jealous when your colleague or your friend has a beautiful clothes more than and you are getting mad because u always want to be above. HATING JUNGKOOK IS A FORCE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS. I WILL KEEP REPLY TO ALL YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT INSULTING JUNGKOOK AND TO INSULT YOU!
Wow the double standards.. if aespa ever have bad vocals in encore and been in this video everyone will send so much hate to theme(as always) but when this happen to other groups everyone defending them.I don’t want to just randomly bring aespa here but this is what i see happen from their debut.There are always justifiable reasons for someone not having stable vocals at the moment (such as being exhausted,anxious or not in the mood), but if aespa have unstable vocals EVER these reasons will not apply to them :/ However, to say something on the situation is that we do not know what is happening in the personal life of the idols and we should not judge them before we know how they feel at this moment!
so now they just can’t be happy for their win? and they HAVE to be stable and sing ALL their lines? ok, i see how it is. so then they might as well just not do one, since “they can’t sing”? okay then. do these haters even hear what they’re saying?
ok but if this was aespa everyone will hate them and if someone would try to defend aespa people would say "they should do better. "idols are humans" until it's aespa.
@@renjunhuang5308 i actually like aespa, and they are indeed humans and no one is perfect and the people who are all like “well it’s fine. they’re just humans” and then hate aespa for the same thing are just stupid
@renjun huang you didn’t agree with the comment. You started an online fight for what? Aespa members are great vocalists and humans. I don’t understand why you felt the need for that when I’m sure people are defending Aespa if theyre getting trashed or hated on. I know I would defend them.
That's why he's the only one never critized over his vocals👉it said in the vid! Man always comes through...you can never catch him slipping! Even with a sore throat he still did well.
I thinl is because in here they do not have the earphones that they have when doing performances. Even Jin suprised himself because he was out of tone.
I feel like there aren't many K-pop stans that say things as they are anymore. Personally, I think most Idols can't really sing. Like, okay they stay on pitch (sometimes 😅)...but that's not something that we should really praise because that's what singers are SUPPOSED to do. That's why they're singers. 😅 But, I don't really think we should hate on the Idols since K-pop isn't really known for their vocals but mostly just choreography and visuals. Companies don't really care about vocals as long as they are ''pretty''. And since K-pop got so big, people are forgetting what good vocalists really are and instead praise mediocre/bad vocals. Don't get me wrong, I have favs too but I'm not going to kiss their ass and say they do everything perfectly. I'm sure your favourite idols are great people but that doesn't mean we can say they are perfect in each area. 😬 Their companies just makes them seem perfect by using lots of pitch correction and loud back tracks. I even spotted plenty of pitch correction in videos of them supposedly singing live in the studio booth.
I agree with you, from start to end of what you said. I've been a fan of kpop since 2016 and most of the idols don't really sing well. Kpop nowadays is about dancing like how good and hard the choreography is, visuals, stage presence and how entertaining a group is. Singing while dancing is such a hard thing to do. With only your voice to count on seems impossible thats why some idols do proper excercise to improve their lung capacity in order to sing stable while dancing. But as you said they are not focusing on vocals anymore. I really like Lesserafim cause they are so funny and entertaining but not for their vocals. They can dance and has amazing stage presence and thats it. I support them with what they got. If they can't sing well then thats fine with me, as long as Im entertained with what they do then thats fine. Idols are just humans and yes they they can't be perfect so its understandable that they can't sing well. But if you're a perfectionist then don't stan idols/groups that can't sing wel (for those people who like to hate idols and nitpick them)
@@ncprng1540 yeah that's how I became an IKON stan last year 👀 I never thought I'll find a band who can sing live, without autotune or prerecorded. You can literally hear their breathing (which happens when you dance and sing, a performer thing which is very rare in kpop) If you think I'm sugar coating, watch any of their concerts, forget concert, encore, any platform you can hear their voices plus heavy breathing) I barely saw any prerecorded lives of Ikon lol.
do you think they deserved the hate?
I do NOT allow reposts and people copying my videos word for word. Dm me on instagram @kpopfication if you see people copying my videos.
Nope they don't deserve it they are humans like us
I think you are a HYBE and JYP hatter because you always make bad videoes about their artist... because you are a sm stan and aespa's fan
@@jenniebearx true
Guys this is not hate. This is critisism. Kpop stans really need to understand that and stop beign so goddamn sensitive. I like a lot of these groupstoobut yeah those performances were really not it. And there is nothing wrong with ppl pointing out the obvious
No they don’t
even momo herself she widened her eyes like "wtf was that"🤣🤣🤣 it happens
What about BTS 😂
@@Vnkylz267 i mean they were promoting ON which is one of their most intense performance, so i guess they trained so much and sometimes it happens when your body and all your muscles (even the cords) give up on you for a second
she knows she ducks and thinks it’s funny. it really shows how idols don’t care ab talent bc they know they can make money w/o it.
@@intearnet6926I don't think ots bc she doesn't care but more like surprised by it.
@@intearnet6926momo has no talent?? Oh please, she dances harder and better than most female idols ive seen, and her rap is pretty good AND she has written multiple B-sides and songs for her Misamo sub-unit. Dont even go there lmfao
I found the encore stages more entertaining tbh because it gives you a glimpse into how they act during concerts🤣
still wayyyy more different than a concert.
Nah
Nah some grps do nothing on encores but give everything in concerts
@@newmoon6549 No one deserves hate but criticism and they got more of hate than criticism people should understand that bullying idols is not a solution but pointing out mistakes and giving suggestions is. Btw this is for every idol who received hate
@@newmoon6549 no one deserves hate wtf is wrong with you that's like saying "oh well this girl deserves the hate she got she dressed in joggers today rather than a dress like she does every single other day" like no that's not how it works so stfu
As a SM fan I'll leave the chat rn
same😂
Yeah
Yep
Weirdo, y’all company Stan’s are weird and bratty as hell
What’s it like having your groups lip sync 80-90 percent of the time
Jungkook having fun while the others are struggling is really funny 🤣
Struggling??
They all are having fun. This doesn't work on bts
@@beyondthescene8410I know that but the vocal line was clearly not singing and when they were, they were not doing their best. It's just my opinion .
@@beyondthescene8410 im not even a gg stan but when that happens with ggs they get so much hate, you don't have to always excuse it when it comes to bgs lol
@@swatirane4470 there is no opinion in vocals ? Bruh kid watch the whole encore on jimin had a sore throat others singing and having fun
I knew twice's more and more would be here, that specific encore affected momo so much :((
@@user-jr4td2ro5e she literally can??? Lmao she’s better than some mom0 slays shush
I think momo sounds very similar to the track tbh.
I get why ppl are hating, but at the same time, she stylized her voice that way so it won't sound as good in person?
Idk how to describe it, maybe its just me but i thought she was fine in this clip 😅
@@user-jr4td2ro5e lol saying that after her vocals in concerts exist? Anyways Thx for telling us that you're deaf 💀
@@teemurinnesalmi6053 she has troubles singing in tune, and it's a big insecurity of her. people keep saying she can't sing and it hurts her a lot
she forces her throat a lot in the past cb and when they sing in that encore she even get amazed of how tense her voice sounds.
The twice one was so upsetting, Momo genuinely looked upset after this had happened.
She’s gotten hate for her voice before and that’s one of moments it got to a height again
Maybe she's a really bad singer then
@@moonchild9168 she isn’t *that* bad
@@moonchild9168 bro be quiet
@@N4Y3 well ..mmmm. NO
@@moonchild9168 she never got any better too, zero improvement in 6 years
Say what you want but Jungkook was just having fun 😂😂😂😂😂
So? 💀💀 all idols have fun in encores yet still gets criticized
jk the only one that can sing live well, he has been singing the whole time on vlive
@@ivebptwicetheholetrinity3466 blame the toxic fans not the artist!
@@ivebptwicetheholetrinity3466JK has a good voice so they’re not trying to “defend” him
Agreed 💯💯
Jung Kook mic is always on. This is where you can easily distinguish between an okay singer and a great one.
You're underestimating other members and judging too harsh without knowing their true potential
Edit: They all care for each others most and you guys are trying to ruin things up by such comparison, remember comparison is thief of joy and their unity cannot be diversified.
So true. We all know know the only vocals In bts that are stable are Jin and jungkook
@@tinanguyen1992 no way, Jimin, Jin and Tae are most stable as well as unique vocals of entire industry. You'all need to listen to their songs
@whyshoulditellyou1194 have u listened to their ACTUAL lives? Like the stage w Charlie puth and their inkigayo encores?? Their concerts are all either prerecorded, loud backtrack, or lipsync. Literally most of kpop does this, so it's so refreshing to see idols that can actually sing and aren't SCARED to death 🤪
@@tinanguyen1992 that's a faulty allegation, they sang live a thousands of times and we've seen that, even they proved it by their actions like screaming, changing words or taping. You can definitely identify if they sang live and we've seen that as well, there's no doubt they're great singers with great voice, specially Jimin and Tae who got Angelic unique and deep voices. You need to look at the reality a bit
love how fans are quickly in finding explanations for when their idols are not in good shape but when is someone for a group they don't like they turn into a excuse to hate them
Right they are 🤡😏
Actually:(
THIS
That literally has nothing to do with this vid- 💀
@@alisonjoseph450 it was just an observation 🤷🏻♀️
idk why ppl question their vocals because they’re just trying to celebrate their wins
Bruh they have to celebrate their wins While singing, they are just standing there, can't they sing?
In fact they have so many members that's why every member has still less lines, can't they sing even that?
It's their fkn job
@@uzma648 Why r u so pressed?✋💀 Calm down.. It doesnt change the fact that they DONT deserve the hate
@@notsure7180 FACTS
they don't deserve hate, but they should be able to do their job well
@@uzma648 1. You're supposed to have fun while having Encore dumbshit
2. Don't act like you care about them, you're literally kpop hater
As a svt fan i never saw this
They are more stable than our lives
Jungkook is like always stable no matter what
💯
Yup 💯
It's not like that each and everyone one has bad day like jk after his American performance apologize bcz of voice cracks
@@user-ik8oo5wo6z His voice didn't crack. His actual performance was great. It's only himself who was not satisfied with the stage because, as we all know, he's a perfectionist. It was cold, and he got a cold, but he sang so good that nobody noticed he was sick at that time.
@@user-ik8oo5wo6z His voice never cracked. And he was literally in the freezing cold while having a cold on top of that.
its actually harder to sing after dancing than while dancing. on iland, rain tested the applicants with this. also, another thing is that they dont hv their earpiece, which is the reason why they can find the key and tune their pitch
edit: wow this got way more attention than i expected
just to add, yes theyre trained for this, but it is still hard to hear yourself on stage because the music is loud, and not just the music but the booming of the sound system literally reaches your chest (ive been on stage, dancing tho, but it felt like that. like the speakers were controlling my heart). besides this, they record multiple times per day, not just the one you see on screen, and their dances arent the easiest. they probably also havent eaten the whole day because dancing after eating is the worst possible decision ever.
should they get more vocal training? absolutely but you have to understand that their schedule is jammed pack. they have comebacks every half yearly, concerts, fansigns, fanmeets, kcons, cfs and others, on top of training (enhypen literally lives and breathes the airport) so maybe be a little more empathetic before throwing hate to them. not to mention a lot of companies force idols out of their range (twice for example in ycsm and le sserafim's fearless, where chaewon, yunjin and sakura are more comfortable with higher notes)
They do rest they don’t immediately start singing. None of the people here were even close to being out of breath.
@@ma-yi9ye it's called voice fatigue
Dude they trained for this 💀
@@btshavefanboystoo3599 They aren't trained to handle your sh*t though
@@frierentaxx lol that was the worst slap back i ever got 💀. Like wtf was that
Momo is still traumatized after all the hate she got off that encore stage… she sang a lot better on right the next encore, but her mood was already down, and now even on latest encores she’s often facing away or not interacting with members and camera as much.
It’s literally just an encore, where idols are supposed to be able to mess around and have fun **after** getting a win. There is no right for someone to hate on an encore performance just because they *expected* good vocals. Your disappointment is your own fault, let the idols breathe after an exhausting performance, skip some lines, talk instead of sing, mess around with their voice. Yes there are some idols who aren’t the best at singing but excel at something else. But even the best singers sometimes have a bad day and you shouldn’t judge a vocal just based on one encore stage.
anyways, too many words, i think most of this should be fairly obvious.
I hope Momo sees this and laughs 😂😂😂
You can still be on key and have fun. A lot of idols sing good while stille being able to enjoy themselves. Momo is just a bad vocalist and jype does nothing to help her improve
@@nino5505 Right, some people can still sound good while messing about. But Momo isn’t a Nayeon or Jihyo, she’s objectively a less stable vocalist and it shows even in other encore stages where she sounds more or less her best. But it doesn’t mean she deserves hate for not sounding perfect. She’s human after all
@@nino5505 in fact, jype has been ruining her vocals. that forced voice hasn't been good for her but she's constantly forced to do it. in scientist you can hear that her vocals are getting slightly better after not using the forced voice
@@meowfdt yes of course she doesn’t deserve death tgreats over this hut valid criticism isn’t hate, she’s 7years into her career of course twice works a lot so it’s understandable they’re tired but there’s no reason that she haven’t progressed a little bit.
jungkook having sm fun with his drums during the on encore😭😭😭😭😭
I'm just looking at him 😂with the drums
Lol😂
Yep he's so cute and funny 😭😭😭💜💜
Jk vocal king for a reason
For Hybe mb (but, i think, two main vocals of Seventeen are still better). When people will learn that BTS was never considered as "vocal group"
@@goldenhime8404when people learn that no one cares about seventeen, especially when their name doesn't make sense
@@Miist3rDuce1stop it . Why are u disrespectful to other groups like that ??
@@Miist3rDuce1rude
@goldenhime8404 Jk still the best for me!! His stability and versatility is not seen in kpop ! He is the whole package in a vocalist
The BTS members struggling while Jungkook is vibing in the back is so funny 😂
Even JK has cracked!! watch the full performance video
@@wise5746 Don't lie 💀 Jungkook is the only one who is praised
@@wise5746 It's you again, you are really hater of jungkook!! You are here just to insult jungkook! Oh God, I remember you said to my reply that you are an army hahahaha but insulting jungkook because het got praised and most recognition! your life is miserable and you are pathethic! You are just pretender loving ot7 but hating one member because he is not your bias and the amount of people love his songs that's make you jealous.
@@wise5746 sorry but I never saw Jk cracking only V and Jimin.
@@wise5746 no he didn't!
Let them celebrate their WINS.
This isn't right to hate them for skipping lines, not being stable!
And to the newly debuted group, give them time to be much more stable?
@Queen Winter girl please 😂🤭
@Queen Winter i feel bad for winter
@Queen Winter let's pretend like ur grp Aespa r the best in live singing
I'm not saying that hating on them is fine but they're literally just standing still. what's all that training for if they aren't stable? I'm pretty sure they were given time to improve their vocals during their training period, you saying we should give them more time just proves that they're not ready to debut.
@Queen Winter How could u have the audacity to judge them while coming from a background where ur fav aespa, who have never experienced live singing, lol
Jun kook just there being happy with his drum… let this poor kid play his drums 😂
ikr. 😂
This😂
Lol😂
Jungkook just 🔥🔥
Your just saying that BC hes your bias i Like twice so i also think that Momo singed awful
Did I ask
@@Dresstoimpress-mimi Even locals like his vocals u don't nee to be his fave to like his vocals.
stop defending your favs everyone has bad stages sometimes it just happens theyre humans not robots 😭
Literally tho people need to know it's normal to song off pitch or have voice cracks and it doesn't make them a bad singer or something..like in the end they are talented enough to debut in such a tough survival industry...
its not abt wether or not they sang poorly at the encore stage, but some people are using this opportunity to attack the idols and call them untalented or bad singers and i think thats why some are so focused on defending their faves.
@@hussainara8832 I agree although I think we have to defend cause anti who are clearly more than kids will take this as an excuse to hate in groups ( none of my favs are actually on this video tho so I’m just saying this to spread awareness)
This stupid editor forgot enhypen's encore stage. It's the worst ever to exist.
She voluntarily didn't pick it
you will never see an sm group in this list 😂
It’s so sad how the standards have been lowered through out the years, these days fans will praise their idols just for singing live, they don’t care if their live singing actually sucks, I think there’s a difference between having fun/not taking it seriously and just straight up being bad at singing
So true!! I've watched so many idols sing perfectly even though they're having fun with their encore stage and even jumping around. A bad encore is a bad encore, no excuses but it doesn't mean that an idol can't sing. I have read so many comments telling that they are tired, etc. But they are tired too during concerts so why can't they do it on encore stages?
I'm just stating my own opinion, no hate on any idols.
yes lol i dont blame the artists but the fandoms are really taking kpop into their religion or something that they gotta defend and praise no matter what 😭
yeah idk why they keep praising them for doing a bad joh
Ikr it really different from last gen before them it really clear how their standard and quality got lower this day group and company they only think about oh it ok we have autotuned or just lipsync it not like fans this day care or know about this
@@shine3419 because the encore stage is for fun, not for performance. They don’t have sing perfect notes constantly in order to be a singer
Jungkook is FABULOUS performer, most stable and versatile. Offcourse main vocalist for a reason. 💜
You can never catch Jk slipping...even when sick man still slays! The seven live performance proves it
Yes
That's why others solo stans jealous with him
Yess❤❤
So true
@@zoey579lol that's other way around...jk fans are too much toxic and can't digest the fact that the other 6 members are hardworking as well...only talking about jungkook when he is working and when 3 are in the military,2 are ready to go and jungkook was the last one to come with his solo work doesn't mean he actually is only the best and hardworking in the group...and first go and see how you solos of jungkook act and then blame the other 6's solo stans
Dude, I didn't know they had to sing at an encore stage I thought they are just celebrating their win by singing and being funny!🤣
Edit: I don't know why these ppl in the reply section are fighting for some useless reason😂 ya'll it's up to the idols to sing or not in encore stages. They can do whatever they want. Who cares whether they sing in encore stages. It's not up to you to take decisions on their lives🤷🏻♀️, so just go and RELAX!🤦🏻♀️
I also thought same
It is but u know .... the toxic fandom😕
Really?m
@@moonmaiden983 nah , toxic haters only
@@sherlyxavier7489 ahh yes yes toxic haters
For some of them you can see that the idols don't have in-ears in, which means they can't hear themselves or the music clearly over the noise of the crowd and reverb around the stadium, so it's fair that their vocals aren't the most stable.
In the end, encores should just be for them to have fun and celebrate! ❤❤❤
Yes this true because the first one and bts did not wear ear in making they have a hard time hearing their voices that why they sound like that.
🤡 If it is other group yall be like haha your bias can't even sing properly like bts 😂... They (bts) can slay even without trying 😏
@@aiiinaa1344 As army i am sorry that many army sounds ignorant but not all. i never meant anything like that and i would never say anything bad about other groups either and i am not making bts best of everything and i am being real here that they are not because they are human it's not like i am putting them down either. Each groups is amazing on their own no need to compare them. The only thing separate them is just which one you want to stan. This is long sorry want my point to get across.
@@shhamizah yes I know not all but I'm getting tired seeing them on comments of other groups encore.... Like I don't have energy anymore to defend
@@aiiinaa1344 then don't defend
kookie the king live vocal.. kookie is the best
Momo had to strain her own voice to make it sound like the mv so ofc she’s not stable it’s uncomfortable straining your voice
y’all in the comments make me laugh💀💀 Like ok idc if you think Momo is a good Vocalist or not just don’t be rude to her as if y’all can sing😍😍
Exactly
Plus, its hard matching a fake voice. It's basically like not clearing your throat before you make a high note, and singing it INFRONT OF A MIC
Yeah people don't know what voice fatigue is
All people strain their voices at some point. Momo is simply just not an impressive vocalist. Add the fact that she's very nasal and pushes her larynx up.
@@user-rq5iq8co2f momo is a good vocalist, however when she’s quit literally celebrating her win and taking that in she’s gonna be rough she isn’t exactly gonna be doing a high note like taeyoun is she
in fact Jimin didn't skip that part voluntarily, he just didn't have the microphone at the time, moreover he even hurried to get it back and finish singing before his verse came through. Please inquire correctly
I think he have microphone tho,no hate
@@brownieboy6416 watch the full video you will see that he picks it up afterwards
@@cocod8263 but from the clip we are watching he have his mic the hold time actually he skipped it
Honestly i wouldn't mind if he skipped his whole verse just because he wanted to, they're celebrating their win not performing. Why would someone want to sing and dance and be perfect and everything when they just won a award
@@brownieboy6416 actually at time u r seeing his verse is already gone ookk so and u can clearly see its v's verse
Y r u so hell bend on arguing..
Jk main vocalist for a reason
Jeon Jungkook is the main vocalist for a reason, he practised singing while running and exercising....His voice barely cracks and he has a perfect pitch, he is highly professional and dude can literally hit high notes back to back for two to three hours that too while lying on the sofa being drunk....Only delulus would argue about his live singing skills😏
I hope y’all realize that in some of these the idols don’t have ear-ins and literally can’t hear themselves. It’s hard to be on key when you can’t hear the key 💀
Edit: I am a classically trained musician and have a lot of experience with in-ears and have worked with plenty of singers. They also have their bad performances as well. And no, I’m not excusing awful singing but a lot of fans that have no idea what it actually takes to sing on pitch every time need to get real with themselves. (also it needs to be said that ur idols achievements aren’t ur own . It’s just pathetic to think that you are better than someone based on others achievements💀)
BTS encore stage was actually like the original
This stupid editor forgot enhypen's encore stage. It's the worst ever to exist.
She voluntarily didn't pick it
It's hard to be encore when you have loud music playing in the background and you're trying to sing with all that going on in the background. Respect to anyone who sings on stage infront of millions because it's not an easy thing to do even infront of a small crowd.
Then why some sing it perfectly?
@@lalaa5600 Probably because it was one of the first performances of a tour. The more you perform within a short time span, the more it takes out of you. Your voice can only take so much over a short period of time. Ever notice how at award shows performances are almost perfect? Because they only have to sing that one time. There are alot of factors involved like also their range. Another thing to consider is voice training. Some singers don't have any and just sing not using the correct techniques.
meanwhile jk just playing hahaha so cute.
yikes
Even Jk has cracked
Go & watch the full performance
@@wise5746😂look at yourself and you say you dont hate him😂....go and watch some of the Jk's lives...In suchwita , he hit those notes while eating....thats the real vocalist....bark as much as you want, even non armys know that only Jk can sing well in bts
@@pheonix9929yes he is going to bark like that in rest of his life😂😂
@@wise5746Bro you're so obsessed with him💀
Oh really?Tell me the timing and i will accept it
Just jungkook never slipping👏i mean man loves singing acaepella on his lives!
only apocalypse can destroy jungkook's voice
Now, aint that a bit delusional
@@Ho5hi_neNot at all
He never slips! The whole seven promo he was down with flu and had a sore throat, yet he did well live, which is impressive!
@CaraTmelPopcorn NO...she's right! Even sick he still did well👉no excuses
I saw the other member in encore OMG he cannot sing his own song in live so poor in vocal,10 years in music but still like that😂😂😂✌️✌️✌️
Meanwhile shinee singing while doing pushups 😂😂😂😂😂
And BTS do it on treadmills
SHINee never had a bad singing
@@meg_dances6235 oh really? But why they singing like that? Their voice aren't good
@💖김태연 Taeyeon💖 look nct 127's sticker encore at mcountdown they didn't wear ear-ins but they can sing very well
@💖김태연 Taeyeon💖 in b*s just jungkook can sing well
The BTS one is hilarious tho and their encore stages are always entertaining. I think it’s nice to see idols be themselves during encore stages 😂
As long they enjoy.. We are happy dude..
yea it's nice to sing bad because they are ''being themselves''.
This actually reminded me of their BWL poetry version they did in an award show😂
@@cami80z lmao
The reason they got hate wasn’t because they skipped lines..
it’s because of their vocal performance they didn’t sing well and also at the end the members except for jungkook left their drums on the stage and left without greeting the staff, they also forgot the trophy on the stage. I still remember the buzz it created in the Korean side of the fandom, there were speculations that the part was left on the broadcast without editing on purpose
jungkook king
everyone will never hate jungkook for his singing skill, even am not army i know he is good and proffesional singer.
well jk has been singing all the time in his live with or without music/ mic for hours,by the way non army's know better who's the one that can actually sing live well in that group 😅
He's carrying the grp's vocals yet the other members fans always wants to discredit him or fight in the comment section when we praise him💀💀💀💀
@@MJJK1097so true lol they are just jealous bcz their faves vocals are not that stable 😂
Mic is always on for JK❤❤❤
...it's an encore, they didn't sing badly, they just were more interested in the drums
The only group I've seen be able to flawlessly sing live while doing complicated choreography is shinee and they've been doing this for 14 years
Mamamoo?
watch dingo seventeen and you'll adding ur list^^
Nah actually most SM groups especially the boys always do great. all people knew how SM trained their vocals while running etc
@@user-tp8dd1vs5m yess.. SM groups are another level .. they sounds sooo good in anytime, anywhere, everytime, everywhere, every situation n conditions 💖💖
WINNER too, BTOB too, MMO too, etc. anyway, there are countless good groups out there doing amazing encores and luckily is not just one ^^
i love how no one can ever drag jungkook for his vocals, he is always stable and give his best.
Jungkook is super reliable and amazing!
He carries the whole groups vocals
Facts
Because he is golden maknae 💜💜
all the critizm is rational. jungkook never get hate for his singing skill cuz everyone know he is good. sorry but this is fact, other member isn't get hate but this is critic.
Suga- not everyone can be as talented as jungkook,
Rm -jungkook is irreplaceable
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Literally they find everway to praise him and everytime they are right.
Okay, then they should disband,make JK free for CARRYING them all the time.
@@goldenhime8404 🤣🤣 will actually agree, because I also want his individual career because he have his own life and each member also have their individual life isn't it , so bts should get disband and if not atleast jk should go solo , his talent is hidden in group and comes out excellent when solo.
@@Hlobyeeewell I disagree, no they shouldn't, everyone is trying their best here.
@@goldenhime8404just like seventeen should disband for having a name that doesn't make sense
Everyone has their off days in my opinion. No one deserves hate for something like this.
I know this wasn't bts' best encore stage but they sounded fine during the actual performance and they were singing live the entire time
im sorry but what?😭 dont misunderstand, im also an army for years now (they were my first ever ult group), but what you just said doesn't make any sense lmao. As I know encore stages are where these groups celebrate their win and where their allowed/required to ACTUALLY sing live with NO back-up vocals, and you saying that their performance sounded fine DURING the actual performance, where its literally more likely that they were actually lipsyncing or being backed up by back-up vocals, so meaning the encore stages are more "real" and live than the actual performance, and there have also been instances where these shows actually edit or "clean" the performances of idols before putting it here in yt, especially if its a pre-recorded performance
@@gabeitch6721 can’t take any sm stan saying I’m an army for years seriously, I’m sorry my friend
@@gabeitch6721 chill dude. encore stage isn't the main performance and they did great in that. in encore stage idols just celebrate their win and do random stuffs. things DO NOT need to be perfect they are just trying to celebrate
@@gabeitch6721 A SM stan saying I am also an ARMY seems and sounds so ironic lmao.If Incore is that important for y'all then why not telling your idols to just attend incores and sing in there and stop giving y'all official comebacks with that much preparation for a MV and stage performances? Hypocrisy is everywhere.Judging someone for just one unstable performance, ignoring their past 7 years' performances is so funny.
@@gabeitch6721 dude they sang there hearts out in the main stage im sure there allowed to have a sore throat and tired voice box once in a while
JK still belted F5 note in encore while playing with perfection. Only others were goofy, Jin could easily ing perfectly if he wanted but he was dancing 🤣 lmao.
jimin too. jimin would be pretty stable but they're just having fun after wins i guess.
i mean playing with the drums, and jin werent dancing if you can see clearly
BTS always does something fun for encore stages
Meaningless justifications won't change the fact that jungkook was the only one who did a good job
@@mim9048 You can play and sing well at the same time, jungkook always did that and it was never a problem for him, they are singers, it's their profession
Some idols like Jungkook are naturally talented with ability to match pitch near perfectly most times, but there are many other idols that are not, this is a good example.
Not being able to hear certainly doesn't help though.
He's not naturally talented. I remember on their show(BTS ON STAGE, I think?) was that he(and Tae probably) were the only ones who got vocal lessons while Jimin had to watch them from the windows.
@@POP-nm1ix Not just anybody can sing well. Vocal lessons can only do so much for you, and they're only usually done to ensure that the singer is using correct techniques that are specifically designed to try to preserve their voice as much as possible.
Without vocal lessons, when projecting your voice outward for example you risk wrecking your vocal cords or developing vocal nodules both of which can put an immediate and severe hold on your career if you are a musician.
All vocalists get vocal lessons. It's industry standard. It's the injury that can happen by not that encourages these companies to make sure their talent is appropriately trained. It's partly why idols have a long training period.
To be able to sing well you have to have the voice and ear for it, and these things both occur naturally. You are either naturally inclined or you're just not. There's not a lot that can be done to change this.
If you absolutely needed vocal training to be able to sing well then I can guarantee you that Justin Bieber and the like would have remained an unknown teenager.
@@gyrthez246 very well said to people has many excuses to invalid jungkook's talent.
@@allyssatan I don't enjoy BTS' music nowadays either, I don't like Jungkook's music direction now, but if I'm being unbiased when judging people's talent which I should be and am then it's undeniable that he has natural music talent to some degree.
Of course he's formally trained relentlessly for many years in music as well, so not everything is natural, but it takes natural talent to know how and when to best use these.
@@gyrthez246ok but when you don't have the talent to sing why even be in a idol group. Rapping or vocals are something that are essential in a group because at the end of the day they are musicians. They write songs and sing and rap them.
Don't excuse your favourite idols bad vocals.
Jk can sing live anytime anywhere he's a vocal king no need autotune❤❤❤
"Why do they look so scared on the stage?"
"Why are they scared to perform?"
"Why do they have to take a hiatus because the stage gives them a panic attack?"
"Why are they scared to sing?"
Also
"They suck."
"What a waste."
"They're just awful."
"Disband now."
"They're so untalented."
"Company embarrassments."
"Um, they're supposed to be perfect. They trained for it. If they aren't perfect every single time then they are just a waste."
Exactly! They think that just because they trained they are supposed to be perfect 🙄
@@meiuzumaki7440 well shouldn't somebody who trained to sing .. at least be able to actually sing?
@@joisiemagee of course they can sing but that doesn’t mean they are gonna be perfect every single time. Especially in a event where they are meant to goof around and enjoy themselves.
@@joisiemagee think of any athlete or any other professional. They can have a bad game or mess up sometimes even though they are trained. That doesn’t make them any less professional or talented.
@@meiuzumaki7440 but the point is they aren’t even just goofing off or having fun - this is, for a good few of them, their actual level of talent. It’s just hidden underneath auto tune and loud backing tracks or even worse, lip syncing. Everyone is allowed a bad day, of course, but I refuse to accept ‘artists’ that are just pretty faces rather than having actual vocal or rap talent.
They're tired, BTS and twice have other stages show their vocals. It's possible that they're just tired
Also BTS didn't have their In-Ear Monitors, so they couldn't hear their voices well. That's a crucial fact for vocalists, thats also probably why Jin was surprised while he started singing and Jimin skipping his line. (I think Le Sserafim also didn't have their ear pieces)
And More&More is a very hard performance
These people be acting brave but none of them can even do the choreo for the first verse of ON and More and More forget about singing along with it they wouldn't be able to even dance 😭🤣
@@yoobeepedmeinthebeep out of point but I hope u know these encores are usually live and these performances are recorded 1 day or two earlier and the results do have some percent of live media vote soo they were definitely not teired
But my point isn't that
They r just try to celebrate and they r showing it through singing it's fine it doesn't have to be mv like and it's fine if they have voice cracks and stuff
@@shambhavizutshi8140 just bcz the performance is recorded a day ago you think idols don't have other schedules?
Everyday I see something and I remember there is absolutely no one like THEE JEON JUNGKOOK! 🌸
@@afifahdiyah9903 in your dream. We already saw who is singing like donkey shut up! This is why they are just nugus and he is the world cup performer. Go to sleep
@@afifahdiyah9903 bark more lmao
He is the reason people didn't criticised bts for Livevocal
@@zoey579Exactly he saved them always and now in solo Era the members started getting criticism for their vocals.
@@mybiggestlovejungkookyeah especially after Jimin's encore performance, everyone literally throwing shit on him ,I hope when they come back his voice will be developed again, he repressed and became F vocalist, I hope he overcome his problems soon .
it doesn’t look like bts (besides jungkook i’m guessing cause that boy will always give his 200%) were focusing on their vocals in that encore. at least from the short clips shown. jin also looked confused ?? besides the voice crack at the beginning , v sounded fine. in general , i’ve noticed bts don’t put a lot of effort into their encores. which is fine because you can really see how hard they try for their actual performances. they sing live almost all of the time so i don’t think they need to prove anything with a silly little encore.
Exactly what I was thinking
My favourite encore stage is nct 127 sticker gosh how stable they were
They're from SM 🔥
@bleu ??? Ok?
AGREEE 🤪
I think BTS are too busy with their drum. Just see another encore, they did better.
Even their concerts are good which sets the precedent for their ability to perform well, so I really don't see why idols have to always put in 100% when encores are for them to celebrate their wins
Sure but a lot of them goof off which is exactly why I watch their encores.
@@cuddlemegently their encores are mainly them playing around with idols around them or eachother. it’s not the best show of their vocals seen as their being unseriousZ
These three weren't even doing anything with their drums in the clips, just carrying them around
And taehyung didn't even have a drum 🤪
@@faceofvision they have so many encores where they are doing great and they even sang so stable without a backtrack. So judging their vocals with this video only is bs.
JUNGKOOK IS PERFECT. HE CAN SING SING AND BE VISUAL. I LOVE HIM
Hhh his visual by plastic surgeries
And his live vocal failed!! Just go & watch Seven Encore where his voice cracked & escaping lot of lyrics 🌚
@@wise5746bro literally hates their life that they have to comment on every comment that is about jungkook. 💀 do you not have anything better to do? Do you feel proud of yourself after hating on people and doing the devil's work? 😂 I always wonder what goes on in people like you head. Like just admit you're jealous of them cause I know right that behind that screen this is you: 🧔♀️ anyways do what you like just some advice maybe find something more productive than writing hate comments all day! It might would get you somewhere in life. ☺️ have a great day (atleast try to cause I know you're mentally unstable😔) praying for you🙏
@@kookonthestreetDont waste your time for clows specially this one. I already thought that dont arguing with someone who has mental problems 😂
@@wise5746accept the truth your fav cant sing in live as much as Jungkook and get out your delusional world😂😂
@@hirundiliyanawaduge5280 hhh your fav can’t sing in live !! Go & watch his disaster Seven Encore where his voice cracked & escaping lots of Lyrics lines 😂😜
As a yg i will leave the chat
😅😅 as a yg family I'll come with you .... let's leave together
Let's go hand in hand
Keeping your voice stable right after doing some strong choreo is almost impossible bruh & the choreography of ON is too exhausting so let them catch their breath bro do these people want idols too fall sick or smth🗿
*Ikr , it's hard to sing after dancing 🗿*
Yeah, but in encores you're not required to do your choreography. You're literally there to sing live to prove that you're worthy of winning _(and enjoying the win as well, but so many have mentioned that so I won't bother)._ Let's not put KPop idols on a pedistal since there will be some things they didn't master. More vocal-focused groups like Mamamoo sound wonderful on encore stages especially with their stage presence, while more choreo-focused groups like Aespa _(I think they're choreo-focused since many said they lipsync)_ tend to highlight their choreo more, thus forgetting to enhance their vocals.
If your fav. doesn't sound good singing live, then they're good at something else. Some are better at rapping, some are batter at dancing, while some are total ACEs that could surprise you. These people in the video aren't that good in singing, so they must've practiced something else. That means you shouldn't make excuses for your favs and they don't deserve hate.
Fr bruh
@@biglawturbo6703 I absolutely get your point but I am not trying to make excuses for any one. I said that ON is an extremely exhausting choreography & one of the hardest choreos of BTS so it must very hard for them to breathe after performing it. They weren't wearing in-ears hence, they can't hear themselves properly. It's totally wrong to say that the ones in the video don't sound good live judging on this one video. Idk much about the rest but all of the vocal line of bts sounds great singing live, they sound better than the recordings. Idols in general have such packed schedules so they all must be very tired & not all idols have great breath support like some do. Netizens should not hate on idols for skipping a line & having a mild voice crack when they are not even performing (like singing after they receive a prize).
@@Nzyy_ People even judge idols' singing when they aren't even singing seriously & joking around with each other.
le sserafim just debuted, it makes sense for them to be nervous and excited after their win. no kpop singer is gonna sound stable after winning which is emotional for them. let them live, why are people so judgmental. it isn't an actual performance.
Sakura and Chaewon debuted about 4yrs ago or so, popular, pretty used to it by now, very experienced, why did even they sound very unstable?
Now, i dont agree with the extreme h@te either, BUT don't play the "rookie" card, it's like calling Wonyoung and Yujin of IVE or ViViZ "rookies" , just no
@@angelcwooah6481 after being disbanded for awhile, similar to other skills "use it or lise it" in not playing rookie in the sense of no control of their voice I'm playing rookie in the emotional sense of hard continuous work paying off with a win. A new experience with new members for former idols redebuting which adds another factor. Imagine losing your group, a lot of idols don't get to redebut so this probably feels like a miracle second chance to them
@@hsfhanaa
Yeah, but not rookies, your statement only applies to 3 members
Except for maybe liz from ive bc miss gorl cried while singing and still sounded so stable in tht one encore stage 💀
Ye but how come they don't sing live in their actual performances? Just because they're rookies doesn't mean they don't have to sing.. Their encore stage i get that they're unstable because they just won and are way to happy to really focus on giving their best performance ever.. But at least sing live one time (i know it's the company who is in charge of it)
Ayo thats my golden maknae
Jungkook best vocalist.
Omg your this account 😂
Yes
Only in his group lol
@@ekde9 He is also one of the most stable and versatile vocalist of kpop lol
He isn't best but definitely most versatile and stable artist in whole kpop and pop with live performance
i mean they’re encores… they already performed their piece, give em a break.
Ikr
There's a break tho they didn't perform the encore right after their orig performances, technically there's a break. If they can do it on their concerts why not on their music shows encore.
@@adriansacro6943 cause its not the meaning of an encore to go full out as if its a concert😨
@@mimieyaka5106 wdym??? They are singers, what is the best position or place to sing 'Live' rather than standing comftably??? Don't get it.
@@adriansacro6943 an encore is to have fun idk why youre getting all worked up even though it changes nothing to your life. You just wanna be a hater and its sad.
The Bts one kinda sounds like they couldn't hear themselves
They couldn’t. And this channel is spreading misinformation they weren’t hated on but jungkook was praised for being on tune despite not hearing himself
Yeah they didn't because some of them skip their line so that means they can't hear it clearly. And that's not BTS fault though
@@Lin-kk5be true i knew about the other encore stage but not the BTS one.
It's probably because they don't have their in-ears on... If you sing in a stage that big with very loud background music without in-ears... YOU WILL NOT HEAR A THING! and it makes it hard to stay in tune
not v is voice cracked
Jungkook literally holds bts together 😂
Thats the same for every member, BTS wouldn't be anything without the rapline
Let's bfr Rapline are the real backbone of BTS
@@thanoscoloured_mf Sure that's why no one gives a flying fuck about them and they're the least popular in the group
@@thanoscoloured_mfnot true, rap line and jungkook are the backbone, u can’t discredit jungkook because he’s the best singer, he has the most lines because he’s the most stable live singer. Without jungkook Bts’ vocal line would be astronomically weak, considering Bts songs are not hip hop centric anymore and more pop, u can’t deny Jungkook’s importance. He is just as important as rm, suga, and jhope.
@@bavv7056 Well,Rapline are the reason BTS exists....Ofc Jk is important too,But we're talking about the "backbone" of BTS
My kookiee is always best n best
Still he cracked if you watch the full performance video
@@wise5746lol😂
@@pheonix9929 hhh you must laugh at JK’s horrible shaked voice in BBC the one show 🤣🤮
@@wise5746oh the performance he did when he was sick
@@Siva-gg9qe so you only give excuses for kook but you don’t give any excuses when it comes about the other members!!!!
What a double standard !!!!
Bro bts was having their life with drums
Hahaha true they just more focus in drums than singing gosh they areally are so funny 🤣
Ikr
@@sugarcane8978 🤣😂🖐️
Don't make an excuses 🥴
@@twizonexx hater🤣
The way jungkook carrying vocals
Jungkook vocal king!
JUNGKOOK indeed a golden vocal
Still he cracked if you watch the full performance video
@@wise5746he didn’t why do you keep hating on him and lying 😭 you should be thankful he was saving the group once again 😭😭
@@wise5746lol you must be jimin biased only they hates him and spread lies like this 😂
@@No-mr4uk nope 👎🏼
It is only JK’s akgae & toxic solo Stans who try the degrade other members just to rise their fav !! And this video is the best example of their toxicity!!!
Otherwise JK has many cracked moments including his last seven performance of BBC The One show where his voice was trembling & hanged many times but we are not toxic same as you to make video just to degrade JK !!!!
@@wise5746 lol what video i made 😂
Whether his voice cracks or not but you are definitely his anti you badly wants to prove it.
There's a reason why namjoon said they can have any member missing but not jungkook. He literally carries the group.
Namjoon more recently: "BTS would be a disaster without Jimin" and said the woman who keep Jimin in the group "saved BTS" 💅🏻
Jimin carried HYYH tour and most of Love Yourself tour where Jk sounded like he was dying 🤠
@@dooly13 You make me laugh. Jk is the best vocalist in BTS . He's the main vocalist and consistently has the most lines without any reason 😀. Girl I am a Blink and still can praise him and you're an Army and still acting like that. Embarrassing.
@@blinkot4615 I'm not an army, don't insult me like that.
Lmao what about that? Then, I'm a Stay and still can notice jk sounds like he's fighting a cold everytime he sings, he's fr so unpleasant to hear 😭
I'm an Army but I do know that regardless of which group you stan you ought to support every member of that group... even if his or her performance is shortchanged on some days, i doubt you'd dare say that your fav group is better off without him or her 💔 im very sure that every member of bts or blackpink or skz or any other group has got their key part/ role to play to make up for other member's other's weaknesses, and thats why each of these groups shine more brightly as a whole. So stop saying "namjoon said this that..." because he and all of us know that bts is not bts if not for all these 7 members💜 its the same for your fav groups too👌
@@dooly13then i think you should go to doctor for your ear problem 😅
That’s why STAN SM ARTISTS
Yes always
@@saltyriz7734 SM encore never disappoints
you will never find an sm group in this list 😂
@@CaratMoo YOU ARE DELUSIONAL
@@CaratMoo aespas encore was good
@@stardust332 ofc it will sound good, its pre recorded
@@CaratMoo just say you fucking jealous your faves can’t do nothing without grinding and licking lips
@@name9171 yeah and lie more uglies seulgi even was handed a mic but uglies like you wanna makeup shit for your miserable faves
all the people in the comments making excuses on behalf of their faves😭 you can admit that the performance is not great yk its not gonna suddenly make them horrible singers
Yeah but ppl take it out of context and act like they're horrible singers only judging by these? Ofc we're gonna defend them
The point is ppl are judging their WHOLe singing abilities over one stage
ikr 😭😭 a little criticism won't even restrict our faves from growing
yeah everyone should have been cursing at idols instead 🌚
😭😭😭
SM ARTISTS, SEVENTEEN, COULD NEVER 😭☝️
❤❤❤❤
Sm artists lip sync and I say this as a nct and Riize fan, but svt is true
@@TheRealAomineDaiki1not really you can hear their voice.its just backtrack louder 🤷🏼
@@ristocrats247 yes some of the time. But before I continue you should know RAISE and nct are two of fav groups but just watching some of their performances you can clearly tell their lip syncing/not singing loud but I don't like this esp since both of these groups can sing really well live and it makes me sad that they don't have more live singingbin performances bc they are so good
@@TheRealAomineDaiki1 only nct and riize started lipsynced like 2019 but exo was all lives so does the past group lile snsd and suju.aespa too
Jungkook ❤
He cracked in his Seven Encore 😂
He must be included in this list
@@wise5746when😂
@@Siva-gg9qe all his new performances in US and Seven Encore in Korea 😜
Watch them & feel the shame
@@wise5746 😂you are the only one saying this in comment section
@@Siva-gg9qe everybody notice his cracks except JK akgae 😜
Therefore I got likes in my other comments 😏
they are humans too, there’s always ups and downs in everything
How about if they always bad in every encore?
@@loveholic5885 most groups here aren’t
@@j4nn4h4sh Yes, TWICE killed their encore in LA
@@loveholic5885 most aren’t….
@@yoobeepedmeinthebeep also Momo it's so stable in twice concert and have more confident...
Oh come on! At that moment, they don't really care whether they are singing perfect or not. They just want to celebrate their win. Haters never let them breath in peace for once.
True lmao, they always want their idols to be perfect
But they are singer. It's their job. They at least have to know how to sing.
@@bb-tt3te They have the chance to prove their skills during concerts and radios. All artists sing live during these times. So just having fun in their encore stages to celebrate their win is not a big deal for me.
@@bb-tt3te their job was performing and it was already done
that’s why JK is main vocalist
Jungkook being the only stable in that stage lmao
Lammo this video is edited...
@@shanna007 u r funny
I think jhope and suga did great too but whatever
Jimin - skipped one line
Toxic Fans - He skipped it !! He skipped it !! He can't sing !??
Nope not fans
He still can't sing.
@@lisafan1449 That means you include in the toxic fans ?? I think you are new army who doesn't know his vocals . He is on 2nd rank in vocaling in BTS . So how he can't sing !?? Go and see his solo song filter than come to me to say sorry about Jimin . He has amazing vocals in that song I bet you will shook after listening that song 😊
@@angelic_rosie I was literally shook after hearing his live.
He is really a bad singer.
@@lisafan1449 Which live ?? You mean that his voice was not good in his live ??
How can you say him a bad singer 😡 . You think this not the whole fandom hates his voice . His voice is sweetest which makes many people jealous so they hate these sweet angels 😊💅
It’s like y’all asking for a whole nother performance after they just got done performing. How greedy🙄
They were celebrating, let them, peacefully.
(Talking about the bts claim)
I mean that is literally what a concert is
Are agreeing with me or against? Because of it’s against then it’s not a concert.
Not really but the question is how those singers can sing perfectly while dancing and being out of breath but then be standing and having not one stable line.
When you are trained at singing, you don't automatically get bad in the next moment, you are at least decent all the time.
And I am a multi stan by multiple groups but it's a fact that so many idols infact cannot sing and need autotune to sound decent
@@xkittyxxkatx But if that's the case, every encore stage should be bad because you said it's near impossible. But that's not it, some encore stages are AMAZING like many of BTS, NCT ect. so how comes they can do it with ease and others not?
And it's a fact that not many fans want to hear, some idols cannot sing period. They NEED autotune and they NEED a loud backtrack to sound decent.
Which I don't even mind because most of them get paid horribly anyway so they don't even earn that much from their main job to justify needing an amazing voice but let's not search for excuses when we all know not every idol is able to hit correct notes.
They can have other strenghs like dancing or rapping but not everyone can sing
@@dragonixheli5474 DRAG THEM
But V was good too 😮 I was very surprised in his solo era. Turns out he can sing really cool live when the song matches his tone. I've specifically re-listened to many live BTS performances and he sounds really stable even outside of his comfortable range. He's been my bias since the beginning of his solo era. Amazing guy
SM stan be like 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
I'm so proud of being a SM Stan 😎🥰
BTS hitting perfect notes while doing heavy choreo....
Antis: 😴
If you haven't appreciated them on their best days , stfu on their tired days/ off days.
Agree
I think you mean they are using auto tune when doing coreo lol Jimin and Jin can’t sing to save their lives
@@joisiemagee clearly you have no idea of their discography...go hear Epiphany by Jin and Lie by Jimin
@N KUZ don't worry, will only speak the truth.
@@rikhmjustsomeguywithmousta4971 👍
We all know the groups mentioned here can sing live very well. I mean it's an encore stage right? I thought they were supposed to just enjoy their win not being concentrated on being the most stable.
fair enough, but is it possible to sound THAT far from the original performance tho ? im now questioning myself if they ALL even sing live. bc there’s no way that by just standing there, even if theyre not paying attention, it could sound off-tune like that. bc if thats the case, there should be lots of mistake in the original performance bc they’re dancing. theres no way their vocal would be perfect like that..? also im not a hater or anything. im saying ALL. ALL kpop idol bc ice seen lots if encore vs original perf and its just… disappointing..?
The point is.
Encore stage is the only place on tv broadcast where they can show off their livesinging skill ability as an idol.
If they can sing while dancing on stage, why they can't sing while enjoy the stage too? They don't have too perfectly sync the dance move, they just have to sing.
The problem is, why they sounded very different. Thats the point. Because in encore stage they don't need to dance, they have stable normal breathing.
@@caraperegrine6936 watch SM groups encore stages and you'll not be disappointed my friend.
when you are a natural born good singer you can sing with no effort almost anytime, anywhere, but most kpop singers arent natural singers, they just have a mediocre voice that sounds better with autotune and thats good enough. An example is Ariana Grande when she is dancing or jumping she can sound tired or out of breath but you still can hear that her real voice is beautiful. I like to hear the Encores bc even if they are just playing around or taking it seriously you can recognize who is actually a singer with natural talent and who isnt. This days it doesnt matter, you can become a famous singer with not talent for it, not just in Kpop, everywhere. But is fun and surprising when you can actually hear a real one.
@@caraperegrine6936 I @Cara Peregrine I can only talk about BTS bc i stan them. They didn't have earphones in that encore stage. That's why Jin is confused.
they should make jin jimin and taehyung lipsync during encores
they'll sing well when there's loud backtrack 😂
They did on the 2nd encore of Jimin
Lol
V just singing stable here. While Jin & Jimjn just skipped half line but still they sang the rest of Line!!
They make the performance more fun & excited
Do you have problem anti !!!
@@wise5746he cracked like 3 times what do you mean by singing stable? Are your deaf or something?
@@wise5746 shut up you are jungkook hater! Dude, why are u hating him? And u like his members? You are so gross as a person!!!!!! You are type of a person who jealous when your colleague or your friend has a beautiful clothes more than and you are getting mad because u always want to be above. HATING JUNGKOOK IS A FORCE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS. I WILL KEEP REPLY TO ALL YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT INSULTING JUNGKOOK AND TO INSULT YOU!
Jungkook is the best vocalist in the whole world.
I know i know 😏😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 WTF
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At least say best in kpop Dimash Kudaibergen is the best Vocalist in the world 💀💀💀
WTF shameless
Wow the double standards.. if aespa ever have bad vocals in encore and been in this video everyone will send so much hate to theme(as always) but when this happen to other groups everyone defending them.I don’t want to just randomly bring aespa here but this is what i see happen from their debut.There are always justifiable reasons for someone not having stable vocals at the moment (such as being exhausted,anxious or not in the mood), but if aespa have unstable vocals EVER these reasons will not apply to them :/ However, to say something on the situation is that we do not know what is happening in the personal life of the idols and we should not judge them before we know how they feel at this moment!
right like it's literaly aespa against the world
@@renjunhuang5308 yea for real :(
Exactly man, even if this happen with Blackpink they just eat them by hate.
I miss 5HINes encore stages , They were the best ever . And I am so proud about them . Real idols . Live performance Kings
OMG YASSSSS THE KINGS 👑👑
SO TRUE!!!!!!❤
People that take encore stages seriously will never not be funny to me
Well sometimes encores can reveal what's under all that auto tune and lip syncing
jungkook carrying the whole group vocals
I miss Girls Generation’s encore .They are the best at encores
so now they just can’t be happy for their win? and they HAVE to be stable and sing ALL their lines? ok, i see how it is.
so then they might as well just not do one, since “they can’t sing”? okay then.
do these haters even hear what they’re saying?
ok but if this was aespa everyone will hate them and if someone would try to defend aespa people would say "they should do better. "idols are humans" until it's aespa.
@@renjunhuang5308 i actually like aespa, and they are indeed humans and no one is perfect and the people who are all like “well it’s fine. they’re just humans” and then hate aespa for the same thing are just stupid
@@renjunhuang5308 yet you are the ones trashing everyone else who are already known for having stable Vocals in live stages.
@@JustMe-12345 when did i trash everyone lol???
@renjun huang you didn’t agree with the comment. You started an online fight for what? Aespa members are great vocalists and humans. I don’t understand why you felt the need for that when I’m sure people are defending Aespa if theyre getting trashed or hated on. I know I would defend them.
I am honestly not surprised that SM is not here.
Well Jungkook sounded fine
That's why he's the only one never critized over his vocals👉it said in the vid! Man always comes through...you can never catch him slipping! Even with a sore throat he still did well.
for encore stage i trust nct!! all nct units so stable for do encore
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Yesss
@bleu huh?
Exactly , they eat every time
Yess
I thinl is because in here they do not have the earphones that they have when doing performances. Even Jin suprised himself because he was out of tone.
I love encore stages cause it reveals actual vocal talents of idols. Also bad voice days are okay but always having a bad voice isn't acceptable.
The more and more encore is honestly iconic at this point
SM stan watching this : 🙈💓
I mean they are all "singer" after all 👁👄👁
Yes SM will never disappoint us in vocal abilities .
Literally thinking the same 😂💚💚
True 🤣me as an exol can't relate to this video
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In terms of vocals & encore... SM artist's never disappoints especially EXO💗
I feel like there aren't many K-pop stans that say things as they are anymore. Personally, I think most Idols can't really sing. Like, okay they stay on pitch (sometimes 😅)...but that's not something that we should really praise because that's what singers are SUPPOSED to do. That's why they're singers. 😅 But, I don't really think we should hate on the Idols since K-pop isn't really known for their vocals but mostly just choreography and visuals. Companies don't really care about vocals as long as they are ''pretty''. And since K-pop got so big, people are forgetting what good vocalists really are and instead praise mediocre/bad vocals. Don't get me wrong, I have favs too but I'm not going to kiss their ass and say they do everything perfectly. I'm sure your favourite idols are great people but that doesn't mean we can say they are perfect in each area. 😬 Their companies just makes them seem perfect by using lots of pitch correction and loud back tracks. I even spotted plenty of pitch correction in videos of them supposedly singing live in the studio booth.
I agree with you, from start to end of what you said. I've been a fan of kpop since 2016 and most of the idols don't really sing well. Kpop nowadays is about dancing like how good and hard the choreography is, visuals, stage presence and how entertaining a group is. Singing while dancing is such a hard thing to do. With only your voice to count on seems impossible thats why some idols do proper excercise to improve their lung capacity in order to sing stable while dancing. But as you said they are not focusing on vocals anymore. I really like Lesserafim cause they are so funny and entertaining but not for their vocals. They can dance and has amazing stage presence and thats it. I support them with what they got. If they can't sing well then thats fine with me, as long as Im entertained with what they do then thats fine.
Idols are just humans and yes they they can't be perfect so its understandable that they can't sing well. But if you're a perfectionist then don't stan idols/groups that can't sing wel (for those people who like to hate idols and nitpick them)
Agree with you. But when it comes on live singing I only believe and feel confident on YG artists. Haha
Finally a stan with brain
I'm done seeing sugar coated comments from kpopies. 🤦
@@ncprng1540 yeah that's how I became an IKON stan last year 👀
I never thought I'll find a band who can sing live, without autotune or prerecorded.
You can literally hear their breathing (which happens when you dance and sing, a performer thing which is very rare in kpop)
If you think I'm sugar coating, watch any of their concerts, forget concert, encore, any platform you can hear their voices plus heavy breathing)
I barely saw any prerecorded lives of Ikon lol.
@@ncprng1540 oops sorry for tagging you it was meant for the public 🙂🤦
Whats the point of bing an idol if you can't sing your own song while standing.