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My biggest mistake as president was allowing Andrew Johnson to be nominated as my running mate in 1864, instead of pushing for Hannibal Hamlin to be my running mate again in 1864. Reconstruction would have been much better under Hannibal Hamlin than Andrew Johnson.
No it definitely wouldn’t have lmao andrew was trying to help the guys in the south who just got their slaves taken away from them the only thing that made reconstruction bad was electing grant (Edit: yes slavery is a moral evil but nobody deserves to starve not even slave owners nor slaves that being said Andrew Johnson 1968)
The funny thing is the only way that would’ve happened is if you died a year earlier lol. The GOP themselves pushed for Johnson as a compromise for moderates’ support.
Even if the internet and social media existed back then, only rich people would have access to them and even then, most rich people would barely use them anyway.
Yes! congratulations!!! It’s be interesting if all Vice President run against each other, in every presidential election instead the main presidential Nominee. I would love to watch the video if that happens!
If Lincoln won the 1860 election, it’s possible that the south would’ve succeeded from the Union earlier, in 1861. Many southerners would be outraged at that outcome. Given the large industrial capabilities of the Union, it’s likely that Lincoln could’ve defeated the south in 1864. Lincoln would win the 1864 election and go on to be president until 1869. Salmon Chase would win the 1868 election and call for a reconstruction of the south.
One of the best alternate history "what if" I've ever come around! Abraham Lincoln's loss in 1860 would've resulted in many repercussions, the civil war could've been *delayed*, but violence between Anti Slavery and Pro slavery people could've taken place on a significant scale. Also the Bleeding Kansas would've prolonged and probably the expansion of the American West could've been delayed. American Civil War also resulted in an era of unprecedented industrialization, but had Lincoln lost in 1860, then the Southern Economy might have remained Agrarian orientated economy for a much longer time.
How the southern economy would respond to a delayed civil was my first thought during the video. Especially for states that were led by fire eaters this would give them significantly more prep time as they geared up for revolt. I don't think either side would realize the importance of pivotal resources but if one or both sides could stockpile more rations and ammo or worse gather support from a foreign nations this could make it a worse battle.
I always find these kinds of questions interesting, especially about pivotal points in history. "What if Lincoln wasn't assassinated?" a popular "What if...?" but I haven't much thought of this one before. Another one I like to look into a little is what would have happened if John Frémont won in 1856. Interesting stuff!
If I could propose another alternate History idea for you Mr. Beat, how about a video on what James Garfield's 4 (or possibly 8) years as president would've been like had he survived
@@abrahamlincoln937 On May 15th 1898 beloved former governor and Rough Rider commander Theodore Roosevelt was shot and killed by a Spanish soldier in Cuba. His death outraged New Yorkers and the Rough Riders leading to some of the worst atrocities in the war yet. After Vice President Garret Hobart died in 1899, President William McKinley appointed Charles Fairbanks of New York to serve as vice president. McKinley was assassinated in 1900, so Fairbanks assumed the presidency. He mostly continued his policies, strong commitment to the gold standard, military interventionism, high tariffs but added a harsh crackdown on anarchism due to them assassinating McKinley. Fairbanks was re elected in 1904 in a close match up against fellow New Yorker, Alton B Parker who ran on a similarly progressive platform as Bryan had the last two elections but was more moderate on tariffs and was a gold democrat, and controversially was re elected again in 1908 against the populist orator William Jennings Bryan back for a third attempt at the presidency. Fairbanks also faced a strong challenge from senator Robert LaFollete who echoed much of Bryan's platform through a republican view. Fairbanks left office in 1912 to republican strongman, Joseph Canon the powerful speaker of the house, Canon would oversee a crackdown on socialism (Debs would gain 8% of the popular vote due to an actual endorsement from LaFollete) meanwhile Canon faced a strong challenge from senator William Taft from Ohio who called for anti trust regulations, tariff reform and limited anti monopoly measures. Canon successfully triumphed due to support of these trusts and monopolies. Canon would enter the US into the Great War in 1915 following the sinking of the Lusitania and would activate a draft and signed the Espionage and Sedition Acts. Following this Victor Berger, Eugene Debs and several other socialists were arrested. To the rage of progressives like LaFollette, Wilson and Bryan. In 1916 Robert LaFollette, William Borah and Gerald Nye among others created the progressive party which would appeal to farmers and unions in order to challenge the conservative dominance and alleged tyranny in president Canon. Following and endorsement from several socialist leaders the party was renamed to the Farmer-Labor Party with elitist progressives in the east, industrial socialists in the midwest and small farmers in the west. Meanwhile William Bryan once again won the democratic nomination known as the champion of farmers he was polling alarmingly poorly in his core constituency due to support for the Farmer-Labor Party. In order to prevent splitting the anti republican vote they formed an electoral alliance where LaFollette took his name off of most farm states while Bryan took his off the midwest. Bryan focused most of his campaign on ending the war which had become increasingly unpopular. While LaFollette and Bryan were both polling very highly for the better part of the campaign, Canon would see a major comeback due to high support in the farm belt thanks to the high demand for American food due to the war and several military victories of the coast of Jutland, the Somme and Verdun. This led to Canon taking a slight victory but the democrats gained a majority in the house with LaFollete taking several representatives as well. Fortunately for Cannon the conservative coalition of democrats and republicans was able to hold firm and simply prevented Cannon from implementing anti lynching bills due to nationwide race riots. Strikes were beginning to break out all over the US and due to socialist revolutions in France, Germany and Russia the Red scare intensified as did the fanaticism of the socialists and unionists. Cannon nationalized the national guard and brutally crushed and gunned down rioters as American troops began to return home following the end of the Great War and the European continent erupting into flames. In 1920 America is a violent and dangerous place, with the end of the Great War and the socialist revolutions across the continent America is terrified of socialism despite the power of Standard Oil and other monopolies and trusts have over the American government. Cannon orders US troops to militarily assist the governments of France and Germany against their revolutions, while sending substantial amounts of aid to the white army in Russia. Meanwhile Robert LaFollete and his Farmer-Labor party, despite a strong showing in the 1918 midterms due to their populist appeal to small businesses, workers and farmers not to mention the unpopularity of the Great War, were faced with a barrage of attacks from democrats and republicans alike in the 1920 election labelling them as socialist demagogues, Marxists and Bolsheviks. The republicans, who had been in power for 24 years straight seemed on track to win another term, they nominated republican political boss, Henry Cabot Lodge who ran on a platform of getting out of Europe, keeping tariffs high and fighting both Klan and communist influence and violence. Meanwhile the democrats refused to give Bryan a fourth chance and nominated southern conservative, John Davis, Davis ran on a platform of anti communist internationalism, free trade and states' rights while condemning the Klan. LaFollette regains the farmer-labor nomination calling to break up monopolies, bust every trust, implement an income tax, separate tariffs from special interests with a tariff commission, banning child labor and a pension system. LaFollette was called a communist but the endorsement of William Jennings Bryan so LaFollette win nearly every single state in the west (with an exception to the west coast) and he made significant inroads to the industrial midwest. Davis ran a fairly weak campaign that had limited appeal out of the South, and lost fairly handily. Lodge would become the next president. Continued. Henry Cabot Lodge had an unfortunate first term, with the post war demand crash recking farmers, protests broke out across the farm belt as millions were plunged into poverty and were denied relief. Charles McNary, a republican, did try to secure farm relief but Lodge's machinations saw his bill defeated and McNary would quit the party and join the Farmer-Labor party. Meanwhile strikes continued to persist and worsen due to falling wages which were violently crushed often by nationalized national guardsmen. And with the success of many socialist revolutions abroad Lodge looked weak internationally and inept domestically as strikes persisted and the economic downturn continued. In 1924 Lodge ran for re election against New York governor Al Smith, Smith ran on a popular and moderately progressive platform of lower tariffs, a income tax (one that met the guidelines of the Fuller court) and government funding for internal improvements such as schools and infrastructure as he had done in New York. Smith's policies were popular among agrarian socialists, reactionary landowners, small businesses and labor unions alike. However Smith's Catholic faith caused him to lose the election as republicans slandered him and accused him of being a secret agent for the pope in Rome. LaFollette once again won big in the west and this time made significant progress into the unionized, isolationist Midwest. Smith was mostly confined to the south (which was threatened due to his Catholic faith and dislike for the Klan). Lodge was re elected, under his second term the economy began to improve due to cheap loans offered by many banks which helped businesses get back on their feet after 6 years of recession. Lodge left office in 1928 as a popular president who had ended the violence, stabilised the economy and restored faith in the American system. In 1928 Republican Charles Curtin, majority leader of the senate and first native American to hold that position, was nominated to continue the republican issues. Meanwhile LaFollete had passed away a few years prior so popular Massachusetts governor Calvin Coolidge gained the nomination, Coolidge ran on a more moderate platform simply calling for more anti trust legislation and more dynamic tariffs, restrictions on immigration and child labor as well as more limited anti monopoly policies and protections of civil liberties. The democrats nominated firebrand segregationist, James Reed in a close battle, he made Georgian senator Walter George is running mate which ensured that his campaign was confined to the south and defeat was all but insured. Coolidge had a very popular policy however the strong republican economy carried Curtin to victory. But in 1929 disaster struck! The economy collapsed and Wall street was in chaos, the banks failed, millions lost their savings and jobs alike. The republicans were dealt a great blow in the 1930 midterms and by 1932 Curtin's defeat seemed inevitable. In 1932 the populist governor of Lousinia who had masterfully avoided the worst of the depression, Huey Long gained the Farmer-Labor nomination while New York governor Al Smith was nominated again by the democrats. Long managed to eek out a victory due to huge wins out west and in the industrial midwest while Smith ate up the south and much of the east coast leaving the republicans only with Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. Long passed an income tax amendment, nationalized holding companies, energy providers and dozens of banks in the most radical government yet. I think this is close enough (more dramatic though, McKinley not dying would just push TR back a little, which would have interesting effects with WW1 but this is way more interesting personally)
Hey, never thought I'd see Mr Beat do alternate history, but I'm all for it! There are definitely some... iffy creators of alternate history content, but as long as its done with an attempt to be less biased, and people remember this is all just for fun, it can be a really fun genre!
I like this a lot. You talk about events and speeches as if you were discussing actual historical events, immersing us in this history. There's a lot of detail in here, and I love it.
A week ago I didn't have the slightest interest in Anglo-American history, being from the southern tip of the continent and all that; but the way you present these topics is really captivating. I'm studying to become a teacher myself, and I've gotta say that you really set a standard for educational content on UA-cam. Kudos.
@@iammrbeat I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I also am a semester away from being a substitute teacher in Literature (as a subject it covers most of what you see in English, besides some linguistics stuff in the more bougie schools) Thanks for responding btw, I don't usually comment on YT given how hostile the comments section can be.
@@mynameisntpatrick1476 The term “Anglo” is often used by Latinos to refer to the dominant English speaking population in the US. As such "Anglo-American" refers to English speaking people of America and "Anglo-American history" refers to their history. This may ignore the broad and diverse backgrounds of America, but it is not like we can say much against it considering we do the same thing, lol. We also arbitrarily call all people from their region(s), despite their diverse backgrounds that are as different as ours (Spanish, Lebanese, French, Indigenous, etc), "Latin Americans". It parallels with Anglo-American as a definition derived from language, and their history is often referred to as "Latin American history" more broadly.
Out of curiosity is it common to refer to USA residents as "Anglo-American" where you live in South America? Plenty of US residents have little to no English heritage, such as myself, I have some Austrian, some Polish, some Bohemian, and maybe some others but not English so far as I am aware. And plenty of US territory was never held by England or Britain. That said, I'm not offended or angry, just curious. Also, if you don't mind saying, I'm curious where in South America do you reside? Finally in conclusion I'd like to express my gratitude to you for pursuing the Teaching profession. The world can always use more teachers.
This is brilliant! I imagine Douglas would have been well remebered after his death, mostly becase a president Herschel Johnson sounds terrifying. I really like Lincoln coming back to win anyways, Lincoln had been defeated many atime before, I doubt anything would stop his ambitions. Also I like the way you mention the seccesion issue with Breckenridge, your tone reflects a "We all know what really happened here." Kinda way. This was fantastic, I normally don't care for alternate history but this was really well done and really grounded, nice little theme song jingle by the way.
Mr. Beat is overly simplistic. First off, failed candidates rarely get a second chance so it’s hard to say if Lincoln would return. Secondly I feel the democratic trifecta would’ve done more to preserve the balance of power like partitioning california into a free and slave state of admitting more slave states in Arizona territory.
@@night6724 Lincoln in 1860 was a failed candidate, he lost to Stephen Douglas in a senate race in Illinois. Also who else did the republicans have? The radical republicans, without a civil war, would've not been that powerful to ignore the moderate factions. I think Lincoln makes perfect sense, though Nathanial Blake would also have been a good choice.
@@night6724 Also California became a free state under Taylor, wtf are you smoking? Arizona wasn't a state until 2 decades later, Fremont was made territorial governor by Hayes in fact.
@@jacobite2353 In 1860 there was a bill to split california between the broth and south since the south was pro slavery. I said the arizona territory. Basically Douglas/Johnson would carve out new slave states in the south west to maintain power
@@jacobite2353 And presidential races are harder to gain support once you’ve lost. It is plausible but unlikely for Lincoln to run again. And it is hard to really call politics even looking backwards. Plus, it’s also possible the republicans begin to moderate their stance on slavery and promote a free trade republican since the concern with Lincoln was him being pro tariffs Also this video ignores the Corwin amendment which would’ve been signed by Douglas since Lincoln had planned on signing it before the civil war which would have essentially killed the issue of slavery
Your videos your videos have such a unique blend of humor. The awkward lines mixed with the great delivery, idk why but it just works for me. You do a great job Señor Beat
I like the idea of events playing out largely the same, just starting later. It's a good indirect dismissal of the great man theory of history, that there's more to history than one guy.
Really enjoyed this change of video. Before it started my thought was it would just be delayed by a few years, nice to know after all the videos ive watched of yours youve taught me how inevitable the war was
Ooo... Mr. Beat doing an Alternate History video? Interesting. Hopefully there might be some more Alternate Election vids like this one. Maybe if the Federalists won in 1800, or at least survived...
Great video, Mr. Beat. As a long time viewer of both your channel and Cody’s channel, I just wanna say that I think it’s awesome that your starting to do alternate history content. I also have an idea for a scenario for you: What if Richard Nixon beat John F. Kennedy in 1960? This one especially intrigues me because it’s a world we were very close to actually living in. Thank you for taking the time to read my comment. I look forward to your future videos.
Mr. Beat!! What a surprise to see you delving into Alternate History! I love actual history more than anything, but recently have delved into alternate history myself. It’s become such an interesting genre to read and even write about, and it’s exciting to see you finally dipping ya toes in it! Awesome vid as usual!
It's also interesting to think about what impact does a late civil war cause. It's possible that General Lee would've died of pneumonia even before the war ended, maybe Lincoln wouldn't have been assasinated since the event itself wasn't really planned by John Wilkes Booth and it was all kind of a coincidence. The Reconstruction would've probably lasted until much later and I doubt it would've ended with the Compromise of 1876, since Ulysses Grant would've ran instead of Rutherford Hayes and probably would've won in a landslide.
"What if Stonewall Jackson Survived and Became Governor or Virginia" sounds like the sort of video to act as a sequel to a video discussing a possible late Civil War; who knows what Jackson would have been up to had he not died during the war
Well here's two more interesting things. One is Gatling guns, which just came into use right at the end of the civil war in our timeline. With a later Civil war, they would be in use right from the start. Try not to think of Pickett's charge (shiver). The other interesting thing is that the Prussian army sent officers to observe the Civil War. In TTL the civil war would clash with the Austro-Prussian war, so they would either not go, or else learn different lessons if they did go.
Great video! I like how it's sort of like a Mr. Beat video from a parallel universe. Adopting RCV in 1860 seems like a bit of a stretch, but it probably is plausible that Douglas could've won even with the EC
As someone who's starting to take interest in alternate history, this video was actually fun to watch! I feel like another good one would be: What if Al Gore actually won 2000?
The Gore one is interesting because if he does win in 2000 you get 9/11 inevitability questions, a probable John McCain win in 04' or 08' depending on when he'd decide to run. They could run in 04' with Lieberman as VP on both tickets 🤣
I watched and I really liked it, I'm a big fan of alternate history and I didn't expect something as worked and detailled. You should do more, there's some strong potential for this like JFK/Goldwater in 1964, Wallace/Dewey in 1948, Wallace (George)/Nixon whould could have stopped the Southern Strategy or Goldwater/McGovern. Keep up the good work !
Considering how many Americans (including myself) have ancestors who immigrated to the US late 1800s/1900s, I'm imagining a "What if [seemingly mundane historical change]" where they discuss the changes to immigration policy that end up happening as an effect of the minor change, and think: _well that means my parents' parents don't meet, meaning my parents don't exist, which means I don't exi-_ [Fades into dust] [This video isn't available] [The video for this URL does not exist.]
Very interesting video! I think you should do more alternate American history videos. Out of all the alternate videos I regularly watch, this one seems pretty likely and somewhat realistic.
Amazing video! Love your presidents series, always watch them when I need help with some basic history coverage on a president or election! Love to see more what if content from you!
Hey Mr. Beat, since you are doing alternate history, can you do a What if George Wallace deadlocked the election of 1968 since he came close to it in real life :)
@@iammrbeat Basically, in early 1861, only 4 states seceded with 2 more joining later on. The majority of these conventions were fairly divisive even having razor thin votes to secede. After the attack on Fort Sumter and union mobilization of the army lead to the last 4 states to secede. Several of these states including Virginia and i think Missouri even had unionist senators. On top of that, Douglas and Johnson could have promoted more slave states or to sign the corwin amendment which had already past congress by 1861. Congress also passed a bill to create a new state by splitting California into 2 near the end of 1860 that passed both chambers of congress On top of that, the south was more industrialized than people believe and the outer south had begun to industrialize faster and part of the problem for the CSA was the fact the border states were the primary source for coal and iron.
@@iammrbeatThroughout the 1840s and 1850s with the exception of the Spanish/Portuguese most European countries banned slavery in their colonies. Moreover, Britain concluded numerous bilateral treaties with South American states banning slavery. Most of these schemes involved manumission in exchange for compensation of former owners. In fact, manumission societies were common in the Carolinas and the Highland South. Any number of small changes in state laws that regulated manumission, British policies pressuring the United States in the same way other countries were treated, or even if the Quakers had not migrated out of North Carolina to the Midwest could have resulted in an alternate abolition not involving a violent uprising by slave owners. If you play out the No Polk scenario that AHH did, this is a likely outcome.
I really like Alternate history!!!! Please do more!!!!! Dumb questions I have: 1: Would the constitutional amendment to ban slavery be easier to pass for Lincoln due to it being a campaign promise + more radical Republicans? 2: Is there any chance that Robert E Lee be a Union General? 3: Would the border states still be in the Union? 4: Would Lincoln still be assassinated in 1869?
@@iammrbeat it's likely not much would have changed, but those changes that did happen would be huge!! That said, I think that is too recent to fully know what would have been different. The only certainty is that Iraq isn't invaded.
hi! personally a big fan of alt history myself and i'd like to offer a friendly critique. I find this could have had a different point of divergence where instead of implementing ranked choice into the US you could instead get Douglas in by working from if the Fusion ticket in New York manage to succeed somehow rewarding the states electoral votes to Douglas instead of Lincoln deadlocking Lincoln out of the Presidency despite him winning the largest amount of electoral votes which in that case the constitution hands the responsibility of electing the president to the House of Reps and the Vice President to the Senate. I can imagine Douglas winning the Presidency by being a viable compromise candidate between the Republican harder stances against slavery and the harder pro slavery stances of the Southern Dems
There’s one problem with this: due to the electoral college, the effects of ranked-choice voting only would have applied in states where Abraham Lincoln didn’t get the majority. Those states were California and Oregon, meaning that Lincoln could’ve at most gotten a whopping… 7 less electoral votes than he did in OTL. That’s still a comfortable victory with 173 electoral votes.
Douglas' intentions were to create a new compromise similar to that of his in 1850, even with his death would the presidency have been key in him being successful in doing so. There were the Cittenden proposals which were not hugely popular however if they were introduced by someone with such influence such as Douglas then maybe they could have had the chance of being voted through Congress?
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Great video and the Collab about what happened if *insert name* was president was nice too and this was a nice take on what would have happened if it actually did well haplen
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Have you ever done a video on the Marshall plan or George Marshall in general? I’d love to see one. I’ve been reading Marshall’s biography by David Roll and he’s an inspiring statesman. Criminally underrated in American history. Extremely influential on not only WWII but the post war world (Marshall plan obv)
I love rank choice voting. Got familiar with it when voting for both Hugo and Nebula awards. Science fiction? Yup. Read it and write it, and I lovr alternate history. Heck, my first published story was alt history.
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Nevada and Nebraska in the 1864 elections be like: 🗿🗿
At the beginning you should have said 1860 was the FIRST election to cause a civil war
What if the coup atempt on January 6 2021 suceeded. And congress was killed as planned. (In USA)
My biggest mistake as president was allowing Andrew Johnson to be nominated as my running mate in 1864, instead of pushing for Hannibal Hamlin to be my running mate again in 1864. Reconstruction would have been much better under Hannibal Hamlin than Andrew Johnson.
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No it definitely wouldn’t have lmao andrew was trying to help the guys in the south who just got their slaves taken away from them the only thing that made reconstruction bad was electing grant
(Edit: yes slavery is a moral evil but nobody deserves to starve not even slave owners nor slaves that being said Andrew Johnson 1968)
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The funny thing is the only way that would’ve happened is if you died a year earlier lol. The GOP themselves pushed for Johnson as a compromise for moderates’ support.
You're correct, Mr. President.
Thanks again for the collab! This was fun.
Hi :D
I'm so glad you teamed up with us!
Yay :D
Just imagine if we had social media around the time of the 1860 election. The internet would have been so toxic.
That's literally a class assignment I used to do with my APUSH students.
Even if the internet and social media existed back then, only rich people would have access to them and even then, most rich people would barely use them anyway.
@@iammrbeat Perfect
@@lol-ih1tl it was mostly rich people who were radicalized since they were the ones most affected by slavery and abolitionism
Everyone in the South would have been called gamers today.
The Dixie song is a vibe, but the Union clap back slapped
"Every dixie boy must mind his uncle sam"
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158 years later, a UA-camr named Mr. Beat makes a video about an alternate history where Lincoln won in 1860 instead.
So today's a historic day??
Yes! congratulations!!!
It’s be interesting if all Vice President run against each other, in every presidential election instead the main presidential Nominee.
I would love to watch the video if that happens!
If Lincoln won the 1860 election, it’s possible that the south would’ve succeeded from the Union earlier, in 1861. Many southerners would be outraged at that outcome. Given the large industrial capabilities of the Union, it’s likely that Lincoln could’ve defeated the south in 1864. Lincoln would win the 1864 election and go on to be president until 1869. Salmon Chase would win the 1868 election and call for a reconstruction of the south.
One of the best alternate history "what if" I've ever come around!
Abraham Lincoln's loss in 1860 would've resulted in many repercussions, the civil war could've been *delayed*, but violence between Anti Slavery and Pro slavery people could've taken place on a significant scale. Also the Bleeding Kansas would've prolonged and probably the expansion of the American West could've been delayed. American Civil War also resulted in an era of unprecedented industrialization, but had Lincoln lost in 1860, then the Southern Economy might have remained Agrarian orientated economy for a much longer time.
Thank you buddy! And well put.
@@iammrbeat 😁
How the southern economy would respond to a delayed civil was my first thought during the video. Especially for states that were led by fire eaters this would give them significantly more prep time as they geared up for revolt.
I don't think either side would realize the importance of pivotal resources but if one or both sides could stockpile more rations and ammo or worse gather support from a foreign nations this could make it a worse battle.
Abraham Lincoln winning was a canon event
@@redjirachi1 XD!
I actually spent this week binge watching the entire presidential elections series
WOAHNESS. Well that was good timing!
@@iammrbeat I did the same two weeks ago! I like history. A LOT.
Curiosity fills me!
Aaayyye me too like 3 weeks ago :D
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I always find these kinds of questions interesting, especially about pivotal points in history. "What if Lincoln wasn't assassinated?" a popular "What if...?" but I haven't much thought of this one before. Another one I like to look into a little is what would have happened if John Frémont won in 1856. Interesting stuff!
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Yeah I was tempted to make that video as well since Frémont has always fascinated me.
@@bondalism1150 isn't he incredibly biased though?
@@henryreed4697 yes
@@henryreed4697 He's also a bit racist iirc (some eugenics bullshit)
If I could propose another alternate History idea for you Mr. Beat, how about a video on what James Garfield's 4 (or possibly 8) years as president would've been like had he survived
I love this idea!
What if William McKinley had never been assassinated?
@@abrahamlincoln937 Roosevelt was already massively popular so he would still likely have been elected in 1904
@@luisandrade2254 Agreed.
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On May 15th 1898 beloved former governor and Rough Rider commander Theodore Roosevelt was shot and killed by a Spanish soldier in Cuba. His death outraged New Yorkers and the Rough Riders leading to some of the worst atrocities in the war yet.
After Vice President Garret Hobart died in 1899, President William McKinley appointed Charles Fairbanks of New York to serve as vice president. McKinley was assassinated in 1900, so Fairbanks assumed the presidency. He mostly continued his policies, strong commitment to the gold standard, military interventionism, high tariffs but added a harsh crackdown on anarchism due to them assassinating McKinley. Fairbanks was re elected in 1904 in a close match up against fellow New Yorker, Alton B Parker who ran on a similarly progressive platform as Bryan had the last two elections but was more moderate on tariffs and was a gold democrat, and controversially was re elected again in 1908 against the populist orator William Jennings Bryan back for a third attempt at the presidency. Fairbanks also faced a strong challenge from senator Robert LaFollete who echoed much of Bryan's platform through a republican view.
Fairbanks left office in 1912 to republican strongman, Joseph Canon the powerful speaker of the house, Canon would oversee a crackdown on socialism (Debs would gain 8% of the popular vote due to an actual endorsement from LaFollete) meanwhile Canon faced a strong challenge from senator William Taft from Ohio who called for anti trust regulations, tariff reform and limited anti monopoly measures. Canon successfully triumphed due to support of these trusts and monopolies. Canon would enter the US into the Great War in 1915 following the sinking of the Lusitania and would activate a draft and signed the Espionage and Sedition Acts. Following this Victor Berger, Eugene Debs and several other socialists were arrested. To the rage of progressives like LaFollette, Wilson and Bryan.
In 1916 Robert LaFollette, William Borah and Gerald Nye among others created the progressive party which would appeal to farmers and unions in order to challenge the conservative dominance and alleged tyranny in president Canon. Following and endorsement from several socialist leaders the party was renamed to the Farmer-Labor Party with elitist progressives in the east, industrial socialists in the midwest and small farmers in the west. Meanwhile William Bryan once again won the democratic nomination known as the champion of farmers he was polling alarmingly poorly in his core constituency due to support for the Farmer-Labor Party. In order to prevent splitting the anti republican vote they formed an electoral alliance where LaFollette took his name off of most farm states while Bryan took his off the midwest. Bryan focused most of his campaign on ending the war which had become increasingly unpopular.
While LaFollette and Bryan were both polling very highly for the better part of the campaign, Canon would see a major comeback due to high support in the farm belt thanks to the high demand for American food due to the war and several military victories of the coast of Jutland, the Somme and Verdun. This led to Canon taking a slight victory but the democrats gained a majority in the house with LaFollete taking several representatives as well.
Fortunately for Cannon the conservative coalition of democrats and republicans was able to hold firm and simply prevented Cannon from implementing anti lynching bills due to nationwide race riots. Strikes were beginning to break out all over the US and due to socialist revolutions in France, Germany and Russia the Red scare intensified as did the fanaticism of the socialists and unionists. Cannon nationalized the national guard and brutally crushed and gunned down rioters as American troops began to return home following the end of the Great War and the European continent erupting into flames.
In 1920 America is a violent and dangerous place, with the end of the Great War and the socialist revolutions across the continent America is terrified of socialism despite the power of Standard Oil and other monopolies and trusts have over the American government. Cannon orders US troops to militarily assist the governments of France and Germany against their revolutions, while sending substantial amounts of aid to the white army in Russia. Meanwhile Robert LaFollete and his Farmer-Labor party, despite a strong showing in the 1918 midterms due to their populist appeal to small businesses, workers and farmers not to mention the unpopularity of the Great War, were faced with a barrage of attacks from democrats and republicans alike in the 1920 election labelling them as socialist demagogues, Marxists and Bolsheviks.
The republicans, who had been in power for 24 years straight seemed on track to win another term, they nominated republican political boss, Henry Cabot Lodge who ran on a platform of getting out of Europe, keeping tariffs high and fighting both Klan and communist influence and violence. Meanwhile the democrats refused to give Bryan a fourth chance and nominated southern conservative, John Davis, Davis ran on a platform of anti communist internationalism, free trade and states' rights while condemning the Klan. LaFollette regains the farmer-labor nomination calling to break up monopolies, bust every trust, implement an income tax, separate tariffs from special interests with a tariff commission, banning child labor and a pension system.
LaFollette was called a communist but the endorsement of William Jennings Bryan so LaFollette win nearly every single state in the west (with an exception to the west coast) and he made significant inroads to the industrial midwest. Davis ran a fairly weak campaign that had limited appeal out of the South, and lost fairly handily. Lodge would become the next president.
Continued.
Henry Cabot Lodge had an unfortunate first term, with the post war demand crash recking farmers, protests broke out across the farm belt as millions were plunged into poverty and were denied relief. Charles McNary, a republican, did try to secure farm relief but Lodge's machinations saw his bill defeated and McNary would quit the party and join the Farmer-Labor party. Meanwhile strikes continued to persist and worsen due to falling wages which were violently crushed often by nationalized national guardsmen. And with the success of many socialist revolutions abroad Lodge looked weak internationally and inept domestically as strikes persisted and the economic downturn continued.
In 1924 Lodge ran for re election against New York governor Al Smith, Smith ran on a popular and moderately progressive platform of lower tariffs, a income tax (one that met the guidelines of the Fuller court) and government funding for internal improvements such as schools and infrastructure as he had done in New York. Smith's policies were popular among agrarian socialists, reactionary landowners, small businesses and labor unions alike. However Smith's Catholic faith caused him to lose the election as republicans slandered him and accused him of being a secret agent for the pope in Rome. LaFollette once again won big in the west and this time made significant progress into the unionized, isolationist Midwest. Smith was mostly confined to the south (which was threatened due to his Catholic faith and dislike for the Klan). Lodge was re elected, under his second term the economy began to improve due to cheap loans offered by many banks which helped businesses get back on their feet after 6 years of recession.
Lodge left office in 1928 as a popular president who had ended the violence, stabilised the economy and restored faith in the American system. In 1928 Republican Charles Curtin, majority leader of the senate and first native American to hold that position, was nominated to continue the republican issues. Meanwhile LaFollete had passed away a few years prior so popular Massachusetts governor Calvin Coolidge gained the nomination, Coolidge ran on a more moderate platform simply calling for more anti trust legislation and more dynamic tariffs, restrictions on immigration and child labor as well as more limited anti monopoly policies and protections of civil liberties. The democrats nominated firebrand segregationist, James Reed in a close battle, he made Georgian senator Walter George is running mate which ensured that his campaign was confined to the south and defeat was all but insured. Coolidge had a very popular policy however the strong republican economy carried Curtin to victory. But in 1929 disaster struck! The economy collapsed and Wall street was in chaos, the banks failed, millions lost their savings and jobs alike. The republicans were dealt a great blow in the 1930 midterms and by 1932 Curtin's defeat seemed inevitable.
In 1932 the populist governor of Lousinia who had masterfully avoided the worst of the depression, Huey Long gained the Farmer-Labor nomination while New York governor Al Smith was nominated again by the democrats. Long managed to eek out a victory due to huge wins out west and in the industrial midwest while Smith ate up the south and much of the east coast leaving the republicans only with Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine.
Long passed an income tax amendment, nationalized holding companies, energy providers and dozens of banks in the most radical government yet. I think this is close enough (more dramatic though, McKinley not dying would just push TR back a little, which would have interesting effects with WW1 but this is way more interesting personally)
Hey, never thought I'd see Mr Beat do alternate history, but I'm all for it! There are definitely some... iffy creators of alternate history content, but as long as its done with an attempt to be less biased, and people remember this is all just for fun, it can be a really fun genre!
Well put and glad you dig it!
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This is the hardest type of humour to get right. And you do an excellent job getting it right.
Well then, I guess I will just keep keeping on. 😀
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Big up for Mr. Beat for recommending other channels. Love to see the good vibes and spirit of cooperation
Another brilliant video as always Mr. Beat! I watch your videos as soon as they come out.
I appreciate that, Jack!
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I like this a lot. You talk about events and speeches as if you were discussing actual historical events, immersing us in this history. There's a lot of detail in here, and I love it.
A week ago I didn't have the slightest interest in Anglo-American history, being from the southern tip of the continent and all that; but the way you present these topics is really captivating. I'm studying to become a teacher myself, and I've gotta say that you really set a standard for educational content on UA-cam. Kudos.
Awesome! But I will say that calling US history Anglo-American doesnt seem right
I appreciate the kind words! Where are you from? Oh, and you've chosen a wonderful career. You will love being a teacher. :)
@@iammrbeat I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I also am a semester away from being a substitute teacher in Literature (as a subject it covers most of what you see in English, besides some linguistics stuff in the more bougie schools)
Thanks for responding btw, I don't usually comment on YT given how hostile the comments section can be.
@@mynameisntpatrick1476 The term “Anglo” is often used by Latinos to refer to the dominant English speaking population in the US. As such "Anglo-American" refers to English speaking people of America and "Anglo-American history" refers to their history. This may ignore the broad and diverse backgrounds of America, but it is not like we can say much against it considering we do the same thing, lol. We also arbitrarily call all people from their region(s), despite their diverse backgrounds that are as different as ours (Spanish, Lebanese, French, Indigenous, etc), "Latin Americans". It parallels with Anglo-American as a definition derived from language, and their history is often referred to as "Latin American history" more broadly.
Out of curiosity is it common to refer to USA residents as "Anglo-American" where you live in South America? Plenty of US residents have little to no English heritage, such as myself, I have some Austrian, some Polish, some Bohemian, and maybe some others but not English so far as I am aware. And plenty of US territory was never held by England or Britain. That said, I'm not offended or angry, just curious. Also, if you don't mind saying, I'm curious where in South America do you reside? Finally in conclusion I'd like to express my gratitude to you for pursuing the Teaching profession. The world can always use more teachers.
AHH and Mr. Beat effective collaboration? Wow I never knew how bad I wanted this till now
We collaborated once before as well!
This is brilliant! I imagine Douglas would have been well remebered after his death, mostly becase a president Herschel Johnson sounds terrifying.
I really like Lincoln coming back to win anyways, Lincoln had been defeated many atime before, I doubt anything would stop his ambitions.
Also I like the way you mention the seccesion issue with Breckenridge, your tone reflects a "We all know what really happened here." Kinda way.
This was fantastic, I normally don't care for alternate history but this was really well done and really grounded, nice little theme song jingle by the way.
Mr. Beat is overly simplistic. First off, failed candidates rarely get a second chance so it’s hard to say if Lincoln would return. Secondly I feel the democratic trifecta would’ve done more to preserve the balance of power like partitioning california into a free and slave state of admitting more slave states in Arizona territory.
@@night6724 Lincoln in 1860 was a failed candidate, he lost to Stephen Douglas in a senate race in Illinois. Also who else did the republicans have? The radical republicans, without a civil war, would've not been that powerful to ignore the moderate factions. I think Lincoln makes perfect sense, though Nathanial Blake would also have been a good choice.
@@night6724 Also California became a free state under Taylor, wtf are you smoking? Arizona wasn't a state until 2 decades later, Fremont was made territorial governor by Hayes in fact.
@@jacobite2353 In 1860 there was a bill to split california between the broth and south since the south was pro slavery. I said the arizona territory. Basically Douglas/Johnson would carve out new slave states in the south west to maintain power
@@jacobite2353 And presidential races are harder to gain support once you’ve lost. It is plausible but unlikely for Lincoln to run again. And it is hard to really call politics even looking backwards. Plus, it’s also possible the republicans begin to moderate their stance on slavery and promote a free trade republican since the concern with Lincoln was him being pro tariffs
Also this video ignores the Corwin amendment which would’ve been signed by Douglas since Lincoln had planned on signing it before the civil war which would have essentially killed the issue of slavery
Great alternate history video. You should do more of these.
Right on
Your videos your videos have such a unique blend of humor. The awkward lines mixed with the great delivery, idk why but it just works for me. You do a great job Señor Beat
I like the idea of events playing out largely the same, just starting later. It's a good indirect dismissal of the great man theory of history, that there's more to history than one guy.
This video has several flaws
I strongly dislike Great Man Theory, but it can often be inescapable
Really enjoyed this change of video. Before it started my thought was it would just be delayed by a few years, nice to know after all the videos ive watched of yours youve taught me how inevitable the war was
Yeah, it was kind of a lame prediction, but we can't undersell just how inevitable the Civil War was.
Ooo... Mr. Beat doing an Alternate History video? Interesting. Hopefully there might be some more Alternate Election vids like this one.
Maybe if the Federalists won in 1800, or at least survived...
Username and profile pic always checks out :)
Great job with A another fantastic video.
Thank you!
Mr. Beat is the best history guy on youtube. fact.
and now he shall conquer alternate history. Cody got competition.
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Competition? The online community is very co-operative. There is room for all of. Including me.
Great video. You should do more like this. How about: “What if William Jennings Bryan won in 1896?”
Glad you liked it, and great suggestion!
@@iammrbeat DeWitt Clinton in 1812?
Great video, Mr. Beat. As a long time viewer of both your channel and Cody’s channel, I just wanna say that I think it’s awesome that your starting to do alternate history content. I also have an idea for a scenario for you: What if Richard Nixon beat John F. Kennedy in 1960? This one especially intrigues me because it’s a world we were very close to actually living in. Thank you for taking the time to read my comment. I look forward to your future videos.
Mr. Beat!! What a surprise to see you delving into Alternate History! I love actual history more than anything, but recently have delved into alternate history myself. It’s become such an interesting genre to read and even write about, and it’s exciting to see you finally dipping ya toes in it! Awesome vid as usual!
What a great video I really like it rock on Mr beat
Glad you dig it!
Mr beat this video is a unique one on alternative history! Great job!
Thank you!
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It's also interesting to think about what impact does a late civil war cause. It's possible that General Lee would've died of pneumonia even before the war ended, maybe Lincoln wouldn't have been assasinated since the event itself wasn't really planned by John Wilkes Booth and it was all kind of a coincidence. The Reconstruction would've probably lasted until much later and I doubt it would've ended with the Compromise of 1876, since Ulysses Grant would've ran instead of Rutherford Hayes and probably would've won in a landslide.
All excellent points
"What if Stonewall Jackson Survived and Became Governor or Virginia" sounds like the sort of video to act as a sequel to a video discussing a possible late Civil War; who knows what Jackson would have been up to had he not died during the war
Well here's two more interesting things. One is Gatling guns, which just came into use right at the end of the civil war in our timeline. With a later Civil war, they would be in use right from the start. Try not to think of Pickett's charge (shiver). The other interesting thing is that the Prussian army sent officers to observe the Civil War. In TTL the civil war would clash with the Austro-Prussian war, so they would either not go, or else learn different lessons if they did go.
If he lost to Douglas the civil war would've been delayed
Thanks for your TLDR
Mos def, Polk.
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disagree
The abolitionists would have been committed to insane asylums instead.
You should definitely make more videos like this! This is a cool concept!
Right on, thanks for the feedback!
I absolutely love this video!
Great video! I like how it's sort of like a Mr. Beat video from a parallel universe. Adopting RCV in 1860 seems like a bit of a stretch, but it probably is plausible that Douglas could've won even with the EC
Wow, this was a fun timeline, especially how you presented it
Glad you dug it!
As someone who's starting to take interest in alternate history, this video was actually fun to watch!
I feel like another good one would be: What if Al Gore actually won 2000?
Thank you, and that suggestion is veryyyy tempting for me.
The Gore one is interesting because if he does win in 2000 you get 9/11 inevitability questions, a probable John McCain win in 04' or 08' depending on when he'd decide to run. They could run in 04' with Lieberman as VP on both tickets 🤣
@@joekirley616 Nah McCain would get his butt kicked. Gore would be seen as a wartime president.
AlternateHistoryHub already did this.
Also another good one could the 1912 election, what if Theodore Roosevelt won?
Loving this concept!!! Awesome video Mr. Beat - excited for more :)
Funny how we would’ve ended up with a Johnson as the 17th president after the 16th president died in office anyway
Very interesting! Thanks for the video!
Mr. Beat, can we get you to cover this last midterm election and its results. Would love to hear your take on how it turned out.
Perhaps in my New Year's Q&A I can address that? Tune in on Discord!
I watched and I really liked it, I'm a big fan of alternate history and I didn't expect something as worked and detailled. You should do more, there's some strong potential for this like JFK/Goldwater in 1964, Wallace/Dewey in 1948, Wallace (George)/Nixon whould could have stopped the Southern Strategy or Goldwater/McGovern.
Keep up the good work !
I don't know why but Alternate history is always scary to think about, Especially its history altering
I get this sentiment.
Considering how many Americans (including myself) have ancestors who immigrated to the US late 1800s/1900s, I'm imagining a "What if [seemingly mundane historical change]" where they discuss the changes to immigration policy that end up happening as an effect of the minor change, and think: _well that means my parents' parents don't meet, meaning my parents don't exist, which means I don't exi-_
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Scary to think about
My two-favorite history channels / Political Channels in one video, What a treat!
Alternate history video let’s go 👍
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Very interesting video! I think you should do more alternate American history videos. Out of all the alternate videos I regularly watch, this one seems pretty likely and somewhat realistic.
I think you should do more videos like this
Amazing video! Love your presidents series, always watch them when I need help with some basic history coverage on a president or election! Love to see more what if content from you!
Hey Mr. Beat, since you are doing alternate history, can you do a What if George Wallace deadlocked the election of 1968 since he came close to it in real life :)
I love this idea.
Also, this video was awesome. PLEASE MAKE MORE ALTERNATE HISTORY!!!
Your alternate history made sense. Yes, the writing was on the wall. The Civil War was inevitable.
it was not inevitable. Only 4 states seceded by extremely narrow margins and I feel Douglas/Johnson would do more to secure slave state powers
@@night6724 I'd love to hear more about your perspective
@@iammrbeat Basically, in early 1861, only 4 states seceded with 2 more joining later on. The majority of these conventions were fairly divisive even having razor thin votes to secede. After the attack on Fort Sumter and union mobilization of the army lead to the last 4 states to secede. Several of these states including Virginia and i think Missouri even had unionist senators.
On top of that, Douglas and Johnson could have promoted more slave states or to sign the corwin amendment which had already past congress by 1861. Congress also passed a bill to create a new state by splitting California into 2 near the end of 1860 that passed both chambers of congress
On top of that, the south was more industrialized than people believe and the outer south had begun to industrialize faster and part of the problem for the CSA was the fact the border states were the primary source for coal and iron.
@@iammrbeatThroughout the 1840s and 1850s with the exception of the Spanish/Portuguese most European countries banned slavery in their colonies. Moreover, Britain concluded numerous bilateral treaties with South American states banning slavery. Most of these schemes involved manumission in exchange for compensation of former owners. In fact, manumission societies were common in the Carolinas and the Highland South.
Any number of small changes in state laws that regulated manumission, British policies pressuring the United States in the same way other countries were treated, or even if the Quakers had not migrated out of North Carolina to the Midwest could have resulted in an alternate abolition not involving a violent uprising by slave owners. If you play out the No Polk scenario that AHH did, this is a likely outcome.
@@Me-yq1fl And california agree to it.
Please make more, this was one of your best videos ever!
Mr.Beat can you do a What If Al Gore won the 2000 Election?
Alternate History Hub did a great video on Gore winning the 2000 election.
It should be a UA-cam short, and it'd just depict flying cars and beautiful crystal skyscrapers as far as the eye can see lol
Yeah, Alternate History Hub did a fine job last year, although I could react to it.
@@iammrbeat Vlogging through History should react to it.
@@abrahamlincoln937Probably a little to recent for VTH but it would be fun
I would love to see a sequel to this addressing this alternate Civil War, and post war, scenario
I like how you still keep Douglass in the Tippecanoe Curse since he won the 1860 election lol
I really like Alternate history!!!! Please do more!!!!!
Dumb questions I have:
1: Would the constitutional amendment to ban slavery be easier to pass for Lincoln due to it being a campaign promise + more radical Republicans?
2: Is there any chance that Robert E Lee be a Union General?
3: Would the border states still be in the Union?
4: Would Lincoln still be assassinated in 1869?
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I would love more videos in this style, a lot of alternate history UA-cam is very unrealistic, while this was very well made and grounded
Hopefully this wasn't a one-off. For someone who disliked the genre, this was pretty good!!!
lol ok then, perhaps I shall tackle the election of 2000 next?
@@iammrbeat I would love if you covered that election
@@iammrbeat it's likely not much would have changed, but those changes that did happen would be huge!! That said, I think that is too recent to fully know what would have been different. The only certainty is that Iraq isn't invaded.
Can you do if Thomas Dewey won in 1948 and Al gore in 2000 and Clinton in 2016
Great suggestions!
This was really good as an alternative history.
Mr. Beat and I are twins separated at birth. Although I am 15 years younger
Twin, is that you?
hi! personally a big fan of alt history myself and i'd like to offer a friendly critique. I find this could have had a different point of divergence where instead of implementing ranked choice into the US you could instead get Douglas in by working from if the Fusion ticket in New York manage to succeed somehow rewarding the states electoral votes to Douglas instead of Lincoln deadlocking Lincoln out of the Presidency despite him winning the largest amount of electoral votes
which in that case the constitution hands the responsibility of electing the president to the House of Reps and the Vice President to the Senate. I can imagine Douglas winning the Presidency by being a viable compromise candidate between the Republican harder stances against slavery and the harder pro slavery stances of the Southern Dems
If I lost the 1860 election, I would never get the opportunity to become the greatest president in American history.
But hey, maybe you'd live longer
But then you'd win the 1864 election and you would've had to deal with the Civil War anyway.
In Thanos's words: *"You were inevitable!"*
True facts
@@iammrbeat Indeed.
Honestly if this became a brand new series on the channel I would love that
Good to know!
You should make a video on the Anti-Masonic Party, Mr. Beat!
I plan on it!
There’s one problem with this: due to the electoral college, the effects of ranked-choice voting only would have applied in states where Abraham Lincoln didn’t get the majority. Those states were California and Oregon, meaning that Lincoln could’ve at most gotten a whopping… 7 less electoral votes than he did in OTL. That’s still a comfortable victory with 173 electoral votes.
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Douglas' intentions were to create a new compromise similar to that of his in 1850, even with his death would the presidency have been key in him being successful in doing so. There were the Cittenden proposals which were not hugely popular however if they were introduced by someone with such influence such as Douglas then maybe they could have had the chance of being voted through Congress?
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I loved this video. Could you do an alternate history video about Theodore Roosevelt winning the 1912 presidential election?
if lincoln lost, he might still be alive today
Perhaps...wait a second
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Wait a second, my voice is not deep nor suave??? :)
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Loved this new video! I Hope you make more alt history content
Right on, glad you dug it!
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This is the correct way of doing alternate history
Change as little as possible from otl for any scenario
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I've watched your election series multiple times through like a Netflix series
I feel so bad for his comment sections lmao
This is like seeing my friend from high school and my friend from college meet each other and we all became better friends as a result of it
lol
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Barack Obama has ton of his favorite movies
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Great video and the Collab about what happened if *insert name* was president was nice too and this was a nice take on what would have happened if it actually did well haplen
I like it. I kind of want to do this with Garfield, though.
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Really great idea, also the animations!... again. ;)
Thank you!
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I’d love more of these
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Thanks for the kind words and for subscribing!
You should do this for every single American Presidential election. I would love to see that series.
Have you ever done a video on the Marshall plan or George Marshall in general? I’d love to see one. I’ve been reading Marshall’s biography by David Roll and he’s an inspiring statesman. Criminally underrated in American history. Extremely influential on not only WWII but the post war world (Marshall plan obv)
I think there is a lot of things in history that occur inevitably
I love rank choice voting. Got familiar with it when voting for both Hugo and Nebula awards. Science fiction? Yup. Read it and write it, and I lovr alternate history. Heck, my first published story was alt history.