How to Build Christian Communities? | Doug Wilson

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  • In this episode of Ask Doug, Pastor Doug Wilson answers the question, "What is your new book about? And how do we build Christian communities that save the world?"
    Enjoying this video? Check out Doug's new book "Gashmu Saith It" today!
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    Ask Doug is presented by Canon Press.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 93

  • @CanonPress
    @CanonPress  2 роки тому +12

    Enjoying this video? Check out Doug's new book "Gashmu Saith It" today!
    canonpress.com/products/gashmu-saith-it/

    • @tgenna10
      @tgenna10 2 роки тому

      What a about Ray comfort book

  • @kevinterrell95
    @kevinterrell95 2 роки тому +11

    “Culture is down stream from worship.” Wow. I need that in sign form. I need that in the worship office at my church! For now I’ll just get the book.

  • @holinessofthebride1935
    @holinessofthebride1935 2 роки тому +1

    I am very glad to hear this talk. I've been trying to encourage building communities for years. Sure, 90% of Christians will immediately give you attitude, and show their ignorance of the idea, but it is needed and is the Christian thing to do. If we are to obey God in all realms of life, it certainly extends beyond personal life, into business, workforce, and government. It also makes sense in light of Christ having rightful authority over all things. Christians should be united and supporting each other in bringing obedience to Christ into the community, so our businesses and laws conform to the will of God. Perhaps like a Medieval village, but a lot more spread out. The purely personalized religion is half baked, and does damage to the work of Christ on earth.

  • @dhbartlett12
    @dhbartlett12 2 роки тому +11

    This is my dream, Doug. When I graduate from GBTS, I hope to plant a church somewhere in this world and build a community around it. I can't wait to read this between semesters.

    • @dannycasey8261
      @dannycasey8261 2 роки тому

      I'm sure it will be as good of cult as these guys have.
      He just said "A church needs to be more than just Gospel based."
      Accordingly Yeshuah isn't enough to him.

    • @dhbartlett12
      @dhbartlett12 2 роки тому

      @@dannycasey8261 Thats cute. A church that is 100% Gospel all day can't make disciples who obey His commands.

    • @zacharythomas8538
      @zacharythomas8538 2 роки тому

      He didn't plant a church, he infected our lovely community. Please do not replicate what he has done!

    • @dhbartlett12
      @dhbartlett12 2 роки тому +1

      @@zacharythomas8538 I'm glad to see that he has had a noticeable impact.

    • @mchristr
      @mchristr 2 роки тому

      @@dannycasey8261 Does it really come down to either a gospel-centered pulpit ministry, or genuine Christian community? Why not both?

  • @MrPruijssen
    @MrPruijssen 2 роки тому

    Just bought the book. 'A how-to on the principles!' My expectations are high! Greetings from Holland!

  • @masontenpenny407
    @masontenpenny407 2 роки тому +20

    This pumps me up! Time to win the world to Christ!

    • @PicturesofTravel
      @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому +1

      you need to get a life. Pumped over myths.

    • @jonathanbarrell82
      @jonathanbarrell82 2 роки тому +2

      Oh and the troll comes along

    • @davidbellino6998
      @davidbellino6998 Рік тому

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  • @pilotandy_com
    @pilotandy_com 2 роки тому +32

    The Church is the ministry of Grace and Peace
    The Civil Government is the ministry of Justice
    The Family is the ministry of Health, Education, Welfare

    • @suestrother9030
      @suestrother9030 2 роки тому +3

      Am I wrong in thinking the church should be the bearer of God's truth so that no other authority can become tyrannical? Why haven't pastors been at any city council or school board meeting reminding these people where their authority comes from and how their authority is limited?

    • @petekosar8379
      @petekosar8379 2 роки тому +2

      @@suestrother9030 you are not wrong! You are positivity right, I believe that most churches in the united states are mostly to blame for the morally decline in the united states, to many ball less pastors, are pastoring dead churches, and are afraid of drawing attention to themselves, or offending anyone!!!

  • @cavitenoblackpill9720
    @cavitenoblackpill9720 2 роки тому +9

    Love your works. From the Philippines 🇵🇭❤️

  • @M_Pashby
    @M_Pashby 2 роки тому

    This set is waiting for me on my next to read shelf (started Gashmu last night).
    I’ve recently read “Saturate” by Jeff VanderStelt. He discusses how his church lives in ‘missional communities’ serving and making disciples in the local community. It describes the ‘so that’ reason for building a Christian community.

  • @CSUnger
    @CSUnger 2 роки тому +9

    Man, I desire “Christian community” quite possibly more than anything having experienced it back in the 70’s but I can tell you that attempting to create it, as a goal in itself, will fail because the problem isn’t a lack of Christian community; it’s a lack of Biblical Christianity. I really don’t know what, outside of real concentrated persecution, is going to create it in the West. There are simply too many well meaning but ultimately non-Biblical influences governing our understanding these days. It’s gonna take more than a trio of books. We already have a Book and that hasn’t done it.

    • @EmilGhiurau
      @EmilGhiurau 2 роки тому

      I so agree! All attempts to come closer as a community has led to strife and disagreements, with the sole intent when it started was prayer and Biblical study to grow in knowledge of God and draw closer to Him. Intentions were good but as you mentioned the outside forces in our culture dominate our lives and thinking. Persecution is the only thing that will truly draw us near and separate the ones that are truly seeking after Gods heart vs. those that are seeking their own personal gains.

    • @CSUnger
      @CSUnger 2 роки тому +2

      @Emil G, Well, I just don’t know how it is ever going to change. I’m not so much putting blame on anybody - God knows that I, myself, am not where even *I* think I should be - it’s more that I recognize the different spirit pervading the church today from the one I experienced manifested back in the 70’s. I see a lot of problems and weaknesses in the present format but am not sure what is cause and what is effect. But I do know that EVERYWHERE in the modern Western Church, we are doing it wrong.

  • @marybrewer2203
    @marybrewer2203 2 роки тому

    Breitbart quote. Good. Also, worship connects...yes yes yes.

  • @Joey-fq5rr
    @Joey-fq5rr 2 роки тому +1

    This is a very good video. Thank you guys.

  • @robstrck3314
    @robstrck3314 2 роки тому +1

    Just ordered the book bundle. ☺️

  • @cabey2082
    @cabey2082 2 місяці тому

    this is why I've always admired the old order mennonite or amish, because they have an element of Christian community

  • @bnonny
    @bnonny 2 роки тому +5

    Someone needs to coach Doug on how the B is silent ;)

  • @AxeAndAnvil
    @AxeAndAnvil 2 роки тому +1

    *local congregation gathers for weekly worship* naysayers: OMG, look at them isolate themselves!
    “Send them out that we may know them”.

  • @jackuber7358
    @jackuber7358 2 роки тому +8

    [Exasperated questioner having just heard this presentotion] "What are you guys? Some kind of cult?"
    [Pastor Wilson] "Why yes! We're of the cult known as Christianity! Here's our bylaws..." [Pastor Wilson hands the questioner a Bible].
    [Exasperated] "What! I'm not reading this!" ... hands the Bible back to Pastor Wilson.
    [Pastor Wilson] "Well I'm sorry, sir. In that case, we cannot let you join our cult. Please have a blessed day in Christ."
    [Exasperated] "... but I ... I mean you ... oh, never mind, you weirdo!" ...and stomps off.
    [Pastor Wilson] Smiles winsomely and waves goodbye and returns to his writing ... "Now, where was I ... oh, yeah, now I remember ... "David French, what a rube ..."
    Maranatha!

    • @c.chinaski3156
      @c.chinaski3156 2 роки тому +2

      Hahah love this & fully pictured it as i read 🤣

    • @zacharythomas8538
      @zacharythomas8538 2 роки тому +1

      Disgusting 😔

    • @jamescook5617
      @jamescook5617 2 роки тому +1

      Nicely done.

    • @jackuber7358
      @jackuber7358 2 роки тому

      @@zacharythomas8538 Not exactly sure how to respond...so...thank you...I think. Blessings, in Christ.

  • @timbushong4387
    @timbushong4387 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent.

    • @timbushong4387
      @timbushong4387 2 роки тому

      BTW - where's my copy? Oh yeah - gotta order it...

  • @rickjames7576
    @rickjames7576 2 роки тому +1

    This was an ad for your book, not an info vid as your thumbnail implied.

  • @geezee1946
    @geezee1946 Рік тому

    How do you define a "pastor"?

  • @Claire5020GEN
    @Claire5020GEN 2 роки тому +2

    Bonhoeffer-- "Christian life is participation in the encounter of Christ with the world." I might warn that Christian life is not participation in the encounter of Christ with the Church. Proverbs 18:1-- One who isolates himself pursues selfish desires; he rebels against all sound wisdom. May God guide the obedient among you.

    • @AxeAndAnvil
      @AxeAndAnvil 2 роки тому +1

      No one even suggested isolating from the world.

    • @Claire5020GEN
      @Claire5020GEN 2 роки тому

      @@AxeAndAnvil A fleeting look, let alone a deep dive, into your community in Moscow says otherwise. I warn anyone reading this to refrain from buying into the Christian Utopia rhetoric. There will be no "Christian" town where we can all live happily ever after in our superiority. Read the New Testament and study the life of Christ. It's nothing like Doug Wilson.

    • @Claire5020GEN
      @Claire5020GEN 2 роки тому

      “Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart for his purity, by definition, is unassailable.”

  • @numbersandletters5149
    @numbersandletters5149 2 роки тому

    So I can expect a lot of references to Rod Dreher?

  • @john-pauldewalt7284
    @john-pauldewalt7284 2 роки тому +1

    This sounds similar to the Seven Mountains Mandate.

    • @rudymancha5809
      @rudymancha5809 2 роки тому +1

      This thought crossed my mind also. Maybe the NAR is close to the same idea.

  • @thewisceeeggg1624
    @thewisceeeggg1624 2 роки тому +2

    God bless you all

  • @foghornleghorn262
    @foghornleghorn262 2 роки тому +1

    Mike Foster. I know your watching this. Is your vision for building " Christian Communities", too? You know I'm on board if it is.

    • @PicturesofTravel
      @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому

      If it's like SLC you may want to rethink. Jim Jones tried it too. David Coresh also.

    • @foghornleghorn262
      @foghornleghorn262 2 роки тому +3

      @@PicturesofTravel We already have that community in play. It's called the Democrat Party.

  • @scottfulton6267
    @scottfulton6267 2 роки тому +4

    Hungry for it? Highly understated, starving for it yes!!!

    • @PicturesofTravel
      @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому

      I can put you at ease. God is a falisy. Jesus is a myth. Salvation was created to give the poor belief their life was not meaningless.

    • @jonathanbarrell82
      @jonathanbarrell82 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the laughs pictures. Your comments have been entertaining

    • @scottfulton6267
      @scottfulton6267 2 роки тому +2

      You must mean fallacy?

  • @WilliamCowper77
    @WilliamCowper77 2 роки тому

    I hope the Cathedral is Calvinistic Methodist

  • @saraz9017
    @saraz9017 2 роки тому

    Great 💡ideas

  • @bnato8209
    @bnato8209 2 роки тому

    Thank you Doug, this info you are sharing is uncommon unfortunately.

  • @billbrock8547
    @billbrock8547 2 роки тому +1

    At 4:34 Wilson said, "I think of a Christian community as a medieval town."
    A pastor's ideal: an isolated community, highly superstitious, and easily led.

    • @mchristr
      @mchristr 2 роки тому +6

      Perhaps the reference to "medieval town" has nothing to do with isolation and everything to do with cultural richness.

    • @bepisboy291
      @bepisboy291 2 роки тому

      Perfectly exemplifies how culturally frustrated Christians want to keep people ignorant in order to maintain influence.

    • @AxeAndAnvil
      @AxeAndAnvil 2 роки тому +2

      Oh yeah, let’s put words in others’ mouths, diverting to what WASN’T said…

  • @madmartigan9371
    @madmartigan9371 2 роки тому

    You forgot one thing. It's everyone's responsibility to read the bible. That's the string that ties everyone to one another.
    The pastor is simply appointed to speak what everyone in the community knows or should know to be true but isn't spoken out. He isn't special or anything but has that function just like the others have theirs. The pastor has the easiest job in the community, it gets hard though when people don't READ.

  • @jtvandizzle643
    @jtvandizzle643 2 роки тому +1

    Gashmu = Gamma males

    • @juliachildress2943
      @juliachildress2943 2 роки тому

      What is a gamma male?

    • @SincerelyHannah9
      @SincerelyHannah9 2 роки тому

      @@juliachildress2943 an inferior male, as opposed to the alpha male who is representative of the peak of masculinity LOLL

  • @dannycasey8261
    @dannycasey8261 2 роки тому +2

    You can't have a church that's just Gospel centered?! 🤔 🧐
    Jesus isn't enough then?! 🧐 🤔

  • @mosesking2923
    @mosesking2923 2 роки тому +2

    The problem is that Doug is using a Protestant world view and expecting a Catholic outcome. The two don’t mix. It’s not a coincidence that every single country of the Protestant revolution is now atheist (Germany, England, Sweden, Denmark etc.). You can’t have a cathedral in the center of a community if someone can build a second, more popular cathedral elsewhere. Do you hold to Catholic authority or Enlightenment freedom? There is no in between.

    • @psalm2forliberty577
      @psalm2forliberty577 2 роки тому +4

      We hold to 'catholic Authority'.
      Christ Jesus now upon David's Throne is our Head & also our Chief (only) Prophet Priest & King.
      The Catholic error is trying to make that OT construct all earthly when God specifically de-constructed it OFF the EARTH & into the Heavens.
      The book of Hebrews every word of it explains this explicitly.
      DW just sees that as Christians multiply we need Biblical thinking & a glance at the Blueprints.
      But even the Moscow model has flaws.
      As an expat of a related CRE church I am in General alignment on Principles but could write a book on how they miss the boat.
      Btw, it was Luthers erroneous '2 Kingdom View' that helped spawn the model of a "secular state' and a separate 'heavenly realm'.
      His basic Critique of Rome & Theology were sound but he goofed on the big picture.
      Nobodys got it all right....only JESUS CHRIST which makes Him OUR SAVIOR !

    • @PicturesofTravel
      @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому +2

      Catholics were not the first Christians. I don't consider Catholics Christians. They belong to the cult of the virgin. Mary is an idol. And thou shall not have idols before you know who...
      Catholic countries have the worst human rights issues outside of India. Take a look.
      If South America was protestant it would actually be functional. Same with Central America.
      Tell me I am wrong.

    • @mosesking2923
      @mosesking2923 2 роки тому

      @@PicturesofTravel You are wrong. Where in the Bible does it say human rights is important? Protestant countries have great human rights but are atheist and have thrown Christ away for secular humanism. It appears you care more about politics than saving souls. Exactly why Protestantism is dying out like flies.

    • @psalm2forliberty577
      @psalm2forliberty577 2 роки тому +2

      @@PicturesofTravel
      Youre not wrong....and many if not all Latin countries are quickly dropping the "cult of Mary" to become more Biblically based including Evangelical & Reformed !

    • @mosesking2923
      @mosesking2923 2 роки тому

      @@psalm2forliberty577 name a single Protestant majority country where the majority population attend church or are against abortion/gay marriage. I’ll wait.

  • @berglen100
    @berglen100 2 роки тому

    Flesh and blood are in a school of good and evil stages. Imagination is the only God in man. The history teaching is false that repeats. Saul and John Baptist were Allegory to show how religious people look outside themselves, most christians do the same thing by history worship. Your smart but blind to what's God in man.

  • @PicturesofTravel
    @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому

    Was Jesus gay? Probably
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    Preaching on Good Friday on the last words of Jesus as he was being executed makes great spiritual demands on the preacher. The Jesuits began this tradition. Many Anglican churches adopted it. Faced with this privilege in New Zealand's capital city, Wellington, my second home, I was painfully aware of the context, a church deeply divided worldwide over issues of gender and sexuality. Suffering was my theme. I felt I could not escape the suffering of gay and lesbian people at the hands of the church, over many centuries.
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    Was that divisive issue a subject for Good Friday? For the first time in my ministry I felt it had to be. Those last words of Jesus would not let me escape. "When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, 'Woman behold your son!' Then he said to the disciple. 'Behold your mother!' And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home."
    That disciple was John whom Jesus, the gospels affirm, loved in a special way. All the other disciples had fled in fear. Three women but only one man had the courage to go with Jesus to his execution. That man clearly had a unique place in the affection of Jesus. In all classic depictions of the Last Supper, a favourite subject of Christian art, John is next to Jesus, very often his head resting on Jesus's breast. Dying, Jesus asks John to look after his mother and asks his mother to accept John as her son. John takes Mary home. John becomes unmistakably part of Jesus's family.
    Jesus was a Hebrew rabbi. Unusually, he was unmarried. The idea that he had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene is the stuff of fiction, based on no biblical evidence. The evidence, on the other hand, that he may have been what we today call gay is very strong. But even gay rights campaigners in the church have been reluctant to suggest it. A significant exception was Hugh Montefiore, bishop of Birmingham and a convert from a prominent Jewish family. He dared to suggest that possibility and was met with disdain, as though he were simply out to shock.
    After much reflection and with certainly no wish to shock, I felt I was left with no option but to suggest, for the first time in half a century of my Anglican priesthood, that Jesus may well have been homosexual. Had he been devoid of sexuality, he would not have been truly human. To believe that would be heretical.
    Heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual: Jesus could have been any of these. There can be no certainty which. The homosexual option simply seems the most likely. The intimate relationship with the beloved disciple points in that direction. It would be so interpreted in any person today. Although there is no rabbinic tradition of celibacy, Jesus could well have chosen to refrain from sexual activity, whether he was gay or not. Many Christians will wish to assume it, but I see no theological need to. The physical expression of faithful love is godly. To suggest otherwise is to buy into a kind of puritanism that has long tainted the churches.
    All that, I felt deeply, had to be addressed on Good Friday. I saw it as an act of penitence for the suffering and persecution of homosexual people that still persists in many parts of the church. Few readers of this column are likely to be outraged any more than the liberal congregation to whom I was preaching, yet I am only too aware how hurtful these reflections will be to most theologically conservative or simply traditional Christians. The essential question for me is: what does love demand? For my critics it is more often: what does scripture say? In this case, both point in the same direction.
    Whether Jesus was gay or straight in no way affects who he was and what he means for the world today. Spiritually it is immaterial. What matters in this context is that there are many gay and lesbian followers of Jesus - ordained and lay - who, despite the church, remarkably and humbly remain its faithful members. Would the Christian churches in their many guises more openly accept, embrace and love them, there would be many more disciples.

    • @raelenekelly8306
      @raelenekelly8306 2 роки тому +5

      John the Baptist was related to Jesus. Mary and Elizabeth spent time together while both pregnant.
      They were family.
      You have either believed false teachers or you are one. You are deceived.

    • @PicturesofTravel
      @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому

      @@raelenekelly8306 Hmmm sounds gay. Who hangs out with 12 men. Has secret suppers. Washes each other's feet. If that doesnt sound gay not sure what is.

    • @raelenekelly8306
      @raelenekelly8306 2 роки тому +5

      You obviously have a very perverse and distorted view. There is nothing more to be said. Good day.

    • @jonathanbarrell82
      @jonathanbarrell82 2 роки тому +8

      Don't pay any attention to this troll. He is just trying to get a rise.

    • @PicturesofTravel
      @PicturesofTravel 2 роки тому

      Letter to Corinthians was from a man to men. Not Jesus’ words.