The many many Tony Hillerman books are amazing, and this adaptation was pretty good. The standard formula is interesting where a mysterious Dine supernatural element is usually a cover for a standard crime mystery. Lot of changes to the characters but still well enough done. I would prefer a more faithful adaptation as I have lived with these characters for like 50 years so changes to me can be jarring. There was another series a few years back.
lytalo, I agree with your views. I had high hopes for this show. But while it is not bad, I was totally put off by the fact that the various characters have not a lot in common with the characters of Hillerman's novels. I have the nagging suspicion that Hillerman's name has simply been used for getting more viewers for this new show. And while Zahn McClarnon is a great actor, I never got the feeling that this production is solidly grounded in authentic Navajo lore and customs. And unfortunately the Navajos themselves agree! They didn't reckognize themselves at all, and they were barely able to understand the dialogues in their supposedly native language. Having an all-Native American cast and crew didn't lead to an authentic representation of the Navajos because - guess what - not all Native Americans are the same! I was also deeply disturbed by the treatment of Navajo witchcraft. Hillerman never wrote explictly that it really happened. But he showed his readers that it is a deeply important experience for those who grew up with these traditions. This new tv-show however bluntly treats this subject as real, and the evil witch is burned in the end. It was at least partly an accident. But since her spells ended with her death, her gruesome end is treated as a good thing. We don’t even learn why she is practicing her evil craft in the first place! It's not so long ago that alleged witches were hunted and burned on American soil! I really hated this part of the show!
Lived on the Rez in early 70s. Best time of my life. Best people period. Good job capturing it. I lived at Cameron Trading Post. Know to locals a spiritual hot spot. From my own experiences, they are 100% correct. I stopped at Cameron a few Years ago. som folks remembered me. I was honored. White tourists were treating the Navaho hanging around the Trading Post as horrible as always. The Navajo are embarrassed Whites have to be so rude.
I was also close to the Big Rez in the 70s. I was working at a mission school for the Dine' children at Tse Bonito, New Mexico. I moved to Idaho and then back to my home state in 1981. I am hoping to get back out to Arizona this Autumn.
I was thrilled when I heard that after three decades Robert Redford had finally succeded to realize his dream project: bringing Tony Hillerman's great novels on our TV screens in an appropriate fashion. In the early 2000s he had already produced three made-for-tv movies with Wes Studi and Adam Beck as Hillerman's famous Navajo sleuths Joe Leaphorn and Jim Chee. Wes Studi and Adam Beck were great, and the plot didn't stray too far from the source material. But the movies were also pretty tame. The production values weren't great, and the project became dormant after just three movies. I had high hopes for AMCs "Dark Winds", and the fact that cast and crew consisted mostly of Native Americans seemed to promise a high level of authenticity. And it was nice that the case which needed to be solved, wasn't crammed into just one episode. It was spread out over a full season with six episodes. But I was nevertheless seriously underwhelmed by the show! Except for their names the characters do not have very much in common with the iconic characters in Hillerman's novels. This show may have simply used the label "Hillerman" in order to reach a bigger audience! And while I really liked Zahn McClarnon and most of the cast, I did not like the writing. Far too many things remained murky, many characters remained fuzzy, and the pacing was off. I also disliked the handling of the Navajo witchcraft trope which is bluntly presented as real, and the evil witch has to die a gruesome death in a fire which destroys her hogan as well as her dark spells. Should we be relieved, that she was gone - or should we remember the horrors of Salem?? We haven't even learned why this woman became a witch in the first place! She remained a cipher. That isn’t good story telling, and the special effects which should show us that witchcraft was happening, were laughable. But the worst problem is that many Navajos have complained that the show, which should be a showcase of their culture and their way of life, is not authentic and they cannot even understand the dialogues which are frequently conducted in their own language. The level of authenticity of the show isn't nearly as stellar as it has been claimed. And since not all Native Americans are the same, a Native American crew doesn't guarantee authenticity. I am pleased, though, that there will be a second season. Hopefully the current problems will be fixed. It shouldn't be so difficult to raise the authenticity level and write better scripts.
My biggest sleeper show that no one watched was called ‘River’ 2016. ( six episode London Cop drama ) Sometimes a show hits you for personal reasons maybe, but I really enjoyed it.
Awesome review! Much like you, I feel the customs are fascinating, but wish more would be explained about those customs. Looking forward to the rest of the season!
Thanks for the review. I will definitely watch when all episodes are available although I’m sure Zahn McClarnon would have brought me in week after week. Longmire was great. I just hated the season finale.
Just saw ep 1. I really liked it. I hope it keeps going to this quality for the whole season. No AMC+, so not reading the rest of the comments, so as not to see a spoiler.
My favourite sleeper series (well, it almost is), has to be Penny Dreadful. I remember starting the 1st ep years ago with the Mrs, when it first came out. Some of the horror/carnage scenes in the sewers were too much for her so we stopped half way through that ep. I picked it up again on a whim years later and got absolutely hooked, and as I've said many times, I don't like horror at all! It's prob one of Green's best roles, with a star-studded cast to boot. Such a shame they had to rush the finale, really deserved another season to wrap it all up properly. Absolutely the best monster-mashup you will ever see! Mrs watched it not long after me, as I couldn't stop singing its praises, and we've watched it a second time together since. Can't recommend it highly enough! (btw, don't even bother with the spin-off series Penny Dreadful: City of Angels - total garbage by comparison, even more of a shame sadly...)
Penny Dreadful was outstanding. Eva Green was a standout. She should have won an Emmy for her portrayal of Vanessa Ives. Agreed it was a pity they rushed the ending. If anyone remembers the failed movie adapatation with Sean Connery called "The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen," they will see that this is the way it should have been done. The first two seasons are wonderful. I own the first two season on dvd.
@@Steveglenside1723 yep, her exploring her repressed childhood history/psychology, while living with the old hag out on the moors....that alone deserved Emmys! Even the back stories of John, Dorian/Lily, Sir Malcom, Chandler, witches, etc. Not a boring one among them TBH, it was like tv lightning struck just in the right spots!
I haven't seen this yet or read the books it's based on but with the thing you mentioned about ceremonies and the show not going into detail, I would say it probably was like that so they wouldn't give any knowledge away that isn't meant for anyone non Diné (for anyone who doesn't know that's the name Navajo people have for themselves). See various tribes would rather have certain knowledge that is only meant for people of that tribe and no one else, so giving it away so flippantly to other people (especially Non Native) would open it up for appropriation and exploitation
In one of the episodes Lester is invited to a ceremony with a warning that he is not allowed to talk about it. So, the impression is, not so much that it's top secret but that it is something that is actually taken seriously, not some kind of entertainment.
My wife and I are HUGE Tony Hillerman fans and have read all of the Leaphorn novels multiple times. Apparently Redford did too but it's not evident in the PBS movies or this series. Hillerman had a special gift. He painted exquisite pictures with words. He had great respect for Native Americans, grew up among them in Oklahoma and then spent the rest of his life in New Mexico. The characters were specific with specific time lines and backstories. This series DESTROYS everything about the characters, their lives, interactions, personalities, and ignores all but names, a few locations, and a hand full of original story details. These are NOT the Tony Hillerman stories he wrote. It's a modern knockoff, an "inspired by"-program that even the Navajo Diné are upset about because their language was slaughtered by non-Navajo speaking actors. The only real positive is Zahn McClarnon who plays...somebody... but it's not the Leaphorn of the books. His performance holds this show together. I've followed McClarnon (who has a Lakota mother and Irish-American father) over the years and think he's great. If they had produced the same show without plagiarizing the names of Hillerman's characters, this would have been much easier to accept. As it is, it's a cheap rip-off and that's surprising coming from the Redford camp.
@@TraceyJean It seems like you're better off having never read the books, considering all the whining from people who have. True that the script is not Hillerman, but really good actors and beautiful scenery are more than a lot of TV shows have going for them.
I’ve read every Hillerman book at least twice. I realize screen adaptations have to take some license, but the characters are all wrong. Chee was a rez kid studying under his Little Father (uncle) to become a medicine man. He’s very traditional. Leap horn is much older and was raised in government boarding schools. He respects and understands their culture, but looks for the modern scientific reason behind things. Bernie didn’t come along until years later and Chee was her boss and mentor before marring her. She was not his superior. Leaphorn lives in Window Rock and Chee and Bernie in Shiprock. I would have liked it to be a bit more true to the source material, but that’s just me.
Hillerman fans would have liked a LOT more of the original material instead of completely re-writing (and destroying) the original story and characters.
Its still kinda the same, i guess the charcter background rewrite is done so they can fit more action. And only 6 episode/30 minute per season is just attrocious
Love the Tony Hillerman books. That "desolate landscape" is Monument Valley. The rock formations are fantastic. They have to be careful which Dine' folklore and culture that they film for public viewing. Years ago Hollywood made a film production of Tony Hillerman's book The Blessing Way. The Dine' elders led a protest against the release of the film. They won, the film was vaulted and has yet to gain permission from the Dine' to release it.
Thanks Chris. You had me with Zahn in a tribal mystery. Happy to see Native Americans in series. I don't understand AMC's logic in release of the episodes either. They screwed up when they had the British show "Gangs Of London" here. I was lucky enough to watch it the way SKY TV intended to release the show. Some sleeper shows? Banshee is a gritty series about an ex-con impersonating a sheriff in small town Pennsylvania. He's a good bad guy. He has to enforce the law, while dealing with his past and try and commit his own criminal activities. It was on Cinemax. There are so many good shows out there that I haven't finished the second season of a four year run. The lead actor is Antoney Starr is FINALLY getting the recognition he deserves playing the demented Homelander on "The Boys." The same producer of "Banshee", teamed with Bruce Lee's daughter for a show called, "Warrior," based on an idea from the writing of martial arts legend Bruce Lee. It also aired on Cinemax. If it was on HBO, Netflix, or Prime everyone would have been talking about this show. It follows Ah Sam as he journeys from China to find his sister in 1878 San Francisco. He has to deal with the tong wars along with the anti-Chinese sentiments of the Americans as the businessmen use the Chinese for cheap labor. This show takes place a few years before the United States passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in1882 banning Chinese immigration for ten years. The martial arts choreography is outstanding! The lead character is played by Andrew Koji who manages to be charismatic, a smart ass, sympathetic and cocky at the same time. If you've ever seen Bruce Lee's films you'll catch certain gestures or scenes that are homages to him and his films. Two season have aired and it's been picked up by HBO for a third and fourth season. Highly recommended!
I liked Banshee a lot and thought Anthony Starr was great. Kind of implausible, but what isn't? I was less enamored with Warrior. Something about too many Chinese characters speaking perfectly, unaccented English . . . even to each other. I'd prefer Mandarin with subtitles once in while . . . even though I don't like subtitles and absolutely hate dubbing. I don't pretend this makes any sense. The time, setting, culture clash stuff are all things I would usually love. I only watched a few episodes a long time ago so I wouldn't be surprised at being totally wrong and misinformed about the show.
I got AMC+ on blk Friday for one year $1.99 promotion they had , i like it loves the IFC FILMS & SHUDDER right up my alleys movies & horror's only watch ..till now brought it on Chromecast TV & Google TV..FFFFF ya
Thanks for review Chris 👌 Can't get this unfortunately only have amazon n Netflix and am intrigued a bit in this . Alas I'll catch up.on" The Boys" today on amazon love the humour in it. Still waiting for next " American gods" and " utopia" so many cancelled.
Tony Hillerman must be turning over in his grave. What a poor interpretation of his very fine novels. Considering how good his books are, I can't understand why it was necessary to re-invent the characters , not to mention that the both the writing and the acting are second rate. I can't imagine how anyone who has read the books could like this program. I guess the producers just figure their demographic doesn't read books.
"The Outsider" (2020) miniseries (Stephen King book) about a shape-shifter murders in a community. Cynthia Erivo and Jason Bateman couldn't help the story catch on? Very unfortunate. Like you noted here: "but the individual episodes, they never really ended in a way that left me with bated breath" :D The viewer in anticipation for what's next, should be rightly given 'nuggets' of that Supernatural/ mythological entity. It helps! LOL! But, then again - so much talk of "representation" of Native American culture here. Perhaps, Robert Redford and gang didn't want *Supernatural element* to become the focal point?
I both read The Outsider and watched the series. I LOVED the book, but was struggling with the series because some of the characters didn't translate for me... the danger of reading the source material first LOL!
Hello Chris, I'm disappointed and I wish AMC or the Producers ACTUALLY involved Diné (Navajo) people, specifically to the Main Actors who are not Navajo themselves. . . I am Diné and it breaks my heart along with a lot of Navajo people. While they say they want "representation", why are they silencing another tribe from portraying their own culture. . . Navajo filmakers, actors and actresses exist. . .
Oh wow, I didn't realize they didn't actually consult and have Dine people involved. That's truly unfortunate! Thank you for bringing it to my attention and letting me know.
@@MoviesAndMunchies Yeah, yes. While there are two Actresses who play Navajo characters in the series. We as Diné people wish we could've had the lead roles go to actual Navajo people as well. The talent is out there. I do plan on addressing this in a video of my own. It'll be my first one ever and I wish it didn't have to be something like this. 😕 I just really need to put the word out there. . .
Why are you complaining? In other tv and movie projects that are about a certain tribe of people and not of that tribe! Let's be glad white people are not playing us in most cases like they use to.
Love it! I binge watched the whole series. Now I can't wait for the second season.
The many many Tony Hillerman books are amazing, and this adaptation was pretty good. The standard formula is interesting where a mysterious Dine supernatural element is usually a cover for a standard crime mystery. Lot of changes to the characters but still well enough done. I would prefer a more faithful adaptation as I have lived with these characters for like 50 years so changes to me can be jarring. There was another series a few years back.
lytalo, I agree with your views. I had high hopes for this show. But while it is not bad, I was totally put off by the fact that the various characters have not a lot in common with the characters of Hillerman's novels. I have the nagging suspicion that Hillerman's name has simply been used for getting more viewers for this new show. And while Zahn McClarnon is a great actor, I never got the feeling that this production is solidly grounded in authentic Navajo lore and customs. And unfortunately the Navajos themselves agree! They didn't reckognize themselves at all, and they were barely able to understand the dialogues in their supposedly native language. Having an all-Native American cast and crew didn't lead to an authentic representation of the Navajos because - guess what - not all Native Americans are the same! I was also deeply disturbed by the treatment of Navajo witchcraft. Hillerman never wrote explictly that it really happened. But he showed his readers that it is a deeply important experience for those who grew up with these traditions. This new tv-show however bluntly treats this subject as real, and the evil witch is burned in the end. It was at least partly an accident. But since her spells ended with her death, her gruesome end is treated as a good thing. We don’t even learn why she is practicing her evil craft in the first place! It's not so long ago that alleged witches were hunted and burned on American soil! I really hated this part of the show!
Lived on the Rez in early 70s. Best time of my life. Best people period. Good job capturing it. I lived at Cameron Trading Post. Know to locals a spiritual hot spot. From my own experiences, they are 100% correct. I stopped at Cameron a few Years ago. som folks remembered me. I was honored. White tourists were treating the Navaho hanging around the Trading Post as horrible as always. The Navajo are embarrassed Whites have to be so rude.
I was also close to the Big Rez in the 70s. I was working at a mission school for the Dine' children at Tse Bonito, New Mexico. I moved to Idaho and then back to my home state in 1981. I am hoping to get back out to Arizona this Autumn.
@@vixendoe2545 I'm planning on moving back to Cameron at some point. I have some peace to make with myself, and some spiritual situations there.
@@icescrew1 good luck to you. So hope that you find the peace you seek. Blessings Mr Waysin. Walk in beauty.
@@vixendoe2545 many thanks
@@icescrew1 welcome.
I was thrilled when I heard that after three decades Robert Redford had finally succeded to realize his dream project: bringing Tony Hillerman's great novels on our TV screens in an appropriate fashion. In the early 2000s he had already produced three made-for-tv movies with Wes Studi and Adam Beck as Hillerman's famous Navajo sleuths Joe Leaphorn and Jim Chee. Wes Studi and Adam Beck were great, and the plot didn't stray too far from the source material. But the movies were also pretty tame. The production values weren't great, and the project became dormant after just three movies.
I had high hopes for AMCs "Dark Winds", and the fact that cast and crew consisted mostly of Native Americans seemed to promise a high level of authenticity. And it was nice that the case which needed to be solved, wasn't crammed into just one episode. It was spread out over a full season with six episodes. But I was nevertheless seriously underwhelmed by the show! Except for their names the characters do not have very much in common with the iconic characters in Hillerman's novels. This show may have simply used the label "Hillerman" in order to reach a bigger audience! And while I really liked Zahn McClarnon and most of the cast, I did not like the writing. Far too many things remained murky, many characters remained fuzzy, and the pacing was off. I also disliked the handling of the Navajo witchcraft trope which is bluntly presented as real, and the evil witch has to die a gruesome death in a fire which destroys her hogan as well as her dark spells. Should we be relieved, that she was gone - or should we remember the horrors of Salem?? We haven't even learned why this woman became a witch in the first place! She remained a cipher. That isn’t good story telling, and the special effects which should show us that witchcraft was happening, were laughable.
But the worst problem is that many Navajos have complained that the show, which should be a showcase of their culture and their way of life, is not authentic and they cannot even understand the dialogues which are frequently conducted in their own language. The level of authenticity of the show isn't nearly as stellar as it has been claimed. And since not all Native Americans are the same, a Native American crew doesn't guarantee authenticity.
I am pleased, though, that there will be a second season. Hopefully the current problems will be fixed. It shouldn't be so difficult to raise the authenticity level and write better scripts.
I just watched the first episode. I love it so far. I like watching things from the 70's, so I like that this show is set back then.
My biggest sleeper show that no one watched was called ‘River’ 2016. ( six episode London Cop drama )
Sometimes a show hits you for personal reasons maybe, but I really enjoyed it.
Awesome review! Much like you, I feel the customs are fascinating, but wish more would be explained about those customs. Looking forward to the rest of the season!
Thanks for the review. I will definitely watch when all episodes are available although I’m sure Zahn McClarnon would have brought me in week after week. Longmire was great. I just hated the season finale.
Just saw ep 1. I really liked it. I hope it keeps going to this quality for the whole season. No AMC+, so not reading the rest of the comments, so as not to see a spoiler.
My favourite sleeper series (well, it almost is), has to be Penny Dreadful. I remember starting the 1st ep years ago with the Mrs, when it first came out. Some of the horror/carnage scenes in the sewers were too much for her so we stopped half way through that ep. I picked it up again on a whim years later and got absolutely hooked, and as I've said many times, I don't like horror at all! It's prob one of Green's best roles, with a star-studded cast to boot. Such a shame they had to rush the finale, really deserved another season to wrap it all up properly. Absolutely the best monster-mashup you will ever see! Mrs watched it not long after me, as I couldn't stop singing its praises, and we've watched it a second time together since. Can't recommend it highly enough!
(btw, don't even bother with the spin-off series Penny Dreadful: City of Angels - total garbage by comparison, even more of a shame sadly...)
Penny Dreadful was outstanding. Eva Green was a standout. She should have won an Emmy for her portrayal of Vanessa Ives. Agreed it was a pity they rushed the ending. If anyone remembers the failed movie adapatation with Sean Connery called "The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen," they will see that this is the way it should have been done. The first two seasons are wonderful. I own the first two season on dvd.
@@Steveglenside1723 yep, her exploring her repressed childhood history/psychology, while living with the old hag out on the moors....that alone deserved Emmys! Even the back stories of John, Dorian/Lily, Sir Malcom, Chandler, witches, etc. Not a boring one among them TBH, it was like tv lightning struck just in the right spots!
I haven't seen this yet or read the books it's based on but with the thing you mentioned about ceremonies and the show not going into detail, I would say it probably was like that so they wouldn't give any knowledge away that isn't meant for anyone non Diné (for anyone who doesn't know that's the name Navajo people have for themselves). See various tribes would rather have certain knowledge that is only meant for people of that tribe and no one else, so giving it away so flippantly to other people (especially Non Native) would open it up for appropriation and exploitation
Good to know! That makes sense!
In one of the episodes Lester is invited to a ceremony with a warning that he is not allowed to talk about it. So, the impression is, not so much that it's top secret but that it is something that is actually taken seriously, not some kind of entertainment.
My wife and I are HUGE Tony Hillerman fans and have read all of the Leaphorn novels multiple times. Apparently Redford did too but it's not evident in the PBS movies or this series. Hillerman had a special gift. He painted exquisite pictures with words. He had great respect for Native Americans, grew up among them in Oklahoma and then spent the rest of his life in New Mexico. The characters were specific with specific time lines and backstories. This series DESTROYS everything about the characters, their lives, interactions, personalities, and ignores all but names, a few locations, and a hand full of original story details. These are NOT the Tony Hillerman stories he wrote. It's a modern knockoff, an "inspired by"-program that even the Navajo Diné are upset about because their language was slaughtered by non-Navajo speaking actors. The only real positive is Zahn McClarnon who plays...somebody... but it's not the Leaphorn of the books. His performance holds this show together. I've followed McClarnon (who has a Lakota mother and Irish-American father) over the years and think he's great. If they had produced the same show without plagiarizing the names of Hillerman's characters, this would have been much easier to accept. As it is, it's a cheap rip-off and that's surprising coming from the Redford camp.
I thoroughly enjoyed it, but then I've never read the books. My mom is a Hillerman fan so I'll be sure to manage expectations if we watch it together.
@@TraceyJean It seems like you're better off having never read the books, considering all the whining from people who have. True that the script is not Hillerman, but really good actors and beautiful scenery are more than a lot of TV shows have going for them.
Thank you for your reviews. I've been introduced to so many great shows from you!
I'm glad they're helpful!!
Good review. I wish I could see more of it.
I’ve read every Hillerman book at least twice. I realize screen adaptations have to take some license, but the characters are all wrong. Chee was a rez kid studying under his Little Father (uncle) to become a medicine man. He’s very traditional. Leap horn is much older and was raised in government boarding schools. He respects and understands their culture, but looks for the modern scientific reason behind things. Bernie didn’t come along until years later and Chee was her boss and mentor before marring her. She was not his superior. Leaphorn lives in Window Rock and Chee and Bernie in Shiprock. I would have liked it to be a bit more true to the source material, but that’s just me.
Hillerman fans would have liked a LOT more of the original material instead of completely re-writing (and destroying) the original story and characters.
Its still kinda the same, i guess the charcter background rewrite is done so they can fit more action. And only 6 episode/30 minute per season is just attrocious
Love the Tony Hillerman books. That "desolate landscape" is Monument Valley. The rock formations are fantastic. They have to be careful which Dine' folklore and culture that they film for public viewing. Years ago Hollywood made a film production of Tony Hillerman's book The Blessing Way. The Dine' elders led a protest against the release of the film. They won, the film was vaulted and has yet to gain permission from the Dine' to release it.
Thanks Chris. You had me with Zahn in a tribal mystery. Happy to see Native Americans in series. I don't understand AMC's logic in release of the episodes either. They screwed up when they had the British show "Gangs Of London" here. I was lucky enough to watch it the way SKY TV intended to release the show. Some sleeper shows? Banshee is a gritty series about an ex-con impersonating a sheriff in small town Pennsylvania. He's a good bad guy. He has to enforce the law, while dealing with his past and try and commit his own criminal activities. It was on Cinemax. There are so many good shows out there that I haven't finished the second season of a four year run. The lead actor is Antoney Starr is FINALLY getting the recognition he deserves playing the demented Homelander on "The Boys." The same producer of "Banshee", teamed with Bruce Lee's daughter for a show called, "Warrior," based on an idea from the writing of martial arts legend Bruce Lee. It also aired on Cinemax. If it was on HBO, Netflix, or Prime everyone would have been talking about this show. It follows Ah Sam as he journeys from China to find his sister in 1878 San Francisco. He has to deal with the tong wars along with the anti-Chinese sentiments of the Americans as the businessmen use the Chinese for cheap labor. This show takes place a few years before the United States passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in1882 banning Chinese immigration for ten years. The martial arts choreography is outstanding! The lead character is played by Andrew Koji who manages to be charismatic, a smart ass, sympathetic and cocky at the same time. If you've ever seen Bruce Lee's films you'll catch certain gestures or scenes that are homages to him and his films. Two season have aired and it's been picked up by HBO for a third and fourth season. Highly recommended!
Antony Starr was also good in Outrageous Fortune. I'm that show he played twins
Thanks for those recommendations! Both Warrior and Banshee sound intriguing!
I liked Banshee a lot and thought Anthony Starr was great. Kind of implausible, but what isn't? I was less enamored with Warrior. Something about too many Chinese characters speaking perfectly, unaccented English . . . even to each other. I'd prefer Mandarin with subtitles once in while . . . even though I don't like subtitles and absolutely hate dubbing. I don't pretend this makes any sense. The time, setting, culture clash stuff are all things I would usually love. I only watched a few episodes a long time ago so I wouldn't be surprised at being totally wrong and misinformed about the show.
Just record the first 5 and then start watching. That's how I do it now. Starting S2 tonight
Best th show i am hooked.few native American show.
New subscriber; Keep up the good work, and big Thanks 2U. :-))
I loved banshee and I don't know alot of people that have heard of it .
I am a Tony Hillerman fan so I understand why there is some "mystic" references. That's how he writes.
I got AMC+ on blk Friday for one year $1.99 promotion they had , i like it loves the IFC FILMS & SHUDDER right up my alleys movies & horror's only watch ..till now brought it on Chromecast TV & Google TV..FFFFF ya
i love the ppl little sad that they don’t explain more of the nov Spell Navajo ways but still enjoy n will watch all i can
Thanks for review Chris 👌 Can't get this unfortunately only have amazon n Netflix and am intrigued a bit in this . Alas I'll catch up.on" The Boys" today on amazon love the humour in it. Still waiting for next " American gods" and " utopia" so many cancelled.
Thanks Chris are there subtitles when talking in there native language
Yes!
Thanks
Very nice.
Does this resemble True Detective season 1 a bit?
I might be able to see a small resemblance, but it's minor.
Tony Hillerman must be turning over in his grave. What a poor interpretation of his very fine novels. Considering how good his books are, I can't understand why it was necessary to re-invent the characters , not to mention that the both the writing and the acting are second rate. I can't imagine how anyone who has read the books could like this program. I guess the producers just figure their demographic doesn't read books.
Totally agree. Hillerman's writings don't need any help or changes. They could go directly to screen as is and be better than this.
HI i love it
Good up to the ending which was weird, unsatisfactory.
"The Outsider" (2020) miniseries (Stephen King book) about a shape-shifter murders in a community. Cynthia Erivo and Jason Bateman couldn't help the story catch on? Very unfortunate. Like you noted here: "but the individual episodes, they never really ended in a way that left me with bated breath" :D The viewer in anticipation for what's next, should be rightly given 'nuggets' of that Supernatural/ mythological entity. It helps! LOL! But, then again - so much talk of "representation" of Native American culture here. Perhaps, Robert Redford and gang didn't want *Supernatural element* to become the focal point?
I both read The Outsider and watched the series. I LOVED the book, but was struggling with the series because some of the characters didn't translate for me... the danger of reading the source material first LOL!
Hey Chris can you review the hbo series irma vep starring alicia vikander
I do want to check it out. If I do, the review will come at the end of the series.
Hello Chris, I'm disappointed and I wish AMC or the Producers ACTUALLY involved Diné (Navajo) people, specifically to the Main Actors who are not Navajo themselves. . .
I am Diné and it breaks my heart along with a lot of Navajo people. While they say they want "representation", why are they silencing another tribe from portraying their own culture. . .
Navajo filmakers, actors and actresses exist. . .
Oh wow, I didn't realize they didn't actually consult and have Dine people involved. That's truly unfortunate! Thank you for bringing it to my attention and letting me know.
@@MoviesAndMunchies Yeah, yes. While there are two Actresses who play Navajo characters in the series. We as Diné people wish we could've had the lead roles go to actual Navajo people as well. The talent is out there. I do plan on addressing this in a video of my own. It'll be my first one ever and I wish it didn't have to be something like this. 😕 I just really need to put the word out there. . .
Why are you complaining? In other tv and movie projects that are about a certain tribe of people and not of that tribe! Let's be glad white people are not playing us in most cases like they use to.
I generally don't watch Am
I generally don't watch American TV. I might try. This sounds good. Thanks.
I try to avoid it also!! And while this has definite shortcomings, I love Zahn McClarnon and the fact that they're using a Native American cast.
lol they usuallu use Latin people to play natives
It was good except the white hate was kinda cringe since most of the people that would be watching it would be white they could have left that out