I traded my '90 e30 for a '95 e34. Loved the e34 so much I still have it in my garage. The e34 is so much smoother, and quieter, and has traction control and power sunroof. I hate the door rust forming because of the stupid trim piece on the lower door edges. Leather interior has held up well. The car is my "proper" car. RWD, leather, 5 speed. Everything works. Good looking, good handling, no squeaks or rattles, decent performance, solid as a rock. My forever car.
@@vvasko779 You can apply industrial quality rust converter on and around the rust so that it will stop spreading until you get a chance to repair the rusted plating. Rust converter is water based and you can apply it with a paint brush. Scrape off the excess rust with a steel brush and scraper thoroughly and apply. If you had to repair the rust permanently, it's not good to weld as this makes the metal weaker and the rust starts quickly again. It's good to pop-rivet zintex metal after curing the rust and beat it in , then apply body filler paste, then primer and paint the original colour of the car.
One noticeable difference between the E30 and E34 when driving it, interior quality and amount of rattling, the E34 doesn't rattle as much inside as an E30, also the E34 is extremely silent inside compared to the E30
if you are watching this video you probably know a thing or two about 90s bmws, however i could totally understand how someone who does not interested in cars, seeing the e30, e34, and e38 as the same car
Sick cars Josh! I recently watched your 5 speed swap video. I just manual swapped my touring and I'm loving it! Now I can get my e30 vert our of storage for a complete paint job (calypso red) and m50 swap. 😀
check control still exists for e34 its just integrated into the gauge cluster. press and hold the right side button on the cluster and if you dont have any faults the screen will read "Check Control OK"
Actually an E30 is the evolution of the E23 and E28. Remember in those days and through the 90s BMW started new chassis engineering with 7s, then 5s and then 3 series. The E30 was the later version of the E28 and they started with some of the body shape that eventually was prevalent in the new E32 and E34. So they are often thought of as the same “generation family”. They really weren’t.
Wish all the hype beasts didn’t f up the e30 market, was looking for another one but it’s 13k for a clean “dailyable” rust free auto vert in Cali. Got my 5 speed 318i for less then half of that about 6 years ago
Turbocharged the e34 m30 your life would change. As for the narrow kidney grill. The e34 did have a wide kidney grill the last few years before it was discontinued.
I'm guilty of having mixed these two cars up back in 2020, when I saw Giorgi Tevzadze drift his black E34 I thought it was an E30. Both are admittedly very nice cars just with different characteristics that come down to personal preferences.
It goes like this for generation equivalents for BMW platform codes: 3series = 5series = 7series E30=E28=E23 E36=E34=E32 E46=E39=E38 E90=E60=E65 F30=F10=F01 G20=G30=G11 TBA(2026?)=G60=G70
How can you possibly mistake an E30 for an E34? They are like chalk and cheese. Even if performance and handling were matched the interior space/comfort/noise are completely different.
The E-34 is more like a Luxury sedan, for professional people, the E-30 is like for everybody who doesn*-t mind the that the chairs ain*t electric, windows are manual, sunroof is not electric, it uses a crank, eventhough I think they had all those options electric, I believe
Whenever I consider a E30, a lot because of the hype and simplicity and aftermarket support. Do I come back to this video to remind myself all the things I love about my E34s. I have had small light cars before, down to a 750-800 kg one, they are fun, but I get tired of them. I got two early E34s with the M20 and manual everything and not even abs, so they rarely break on me. I am keeping to my E34s, I might buy a pre-91 535i one day if original, good price and not messed with by younger people, as well as few electric options... have one in mind that is owned by a older gentleman close to me, a 89 535i with no electric gimmicks, a manual and no sunroof!!! If not a parts car to swap the subframe and drivetrain over to one of my E34s. Besides that I am keeping to my comfy, simple and well handling E34s... E30 sure must be a fun toy, but I use my old cars for transport as well as moving things. And the extra space over a E30 has saved me many times. Thanks for the reminder yet again ;) Edit: might make me sound like a grandpa, but I also really can't go without my drop down E34/E32 armrests 🤣
You don't get those in the states but 88-89 E34 with the mechanical cluster, 4 crank windows and analog clock and base cloth seats look like a carbon copy of the E30 inside. The vibe is woozing from it, especially with that M20B20 engine. The dashes don't crack, they expand and get like bloated to the point its impossible to put the dash vent in and you get a huge gap over the central vent. Cutting costs sadly, the E32 dash is from 2 pieces and the separate front part absorbs everything without affecting the rest. Your E30 seats are the vinyl option which looks exactly the same when specced on the E34. And yeah, ugly and outdated. The e36 interior is pure gargabe, 100% agreed
Before I saw this video I thought they were a lot different. Now that I've seen this I realize they are THE SAME CAR! LOL. Except in size. By the way the E30 had many other engines. They had the. 316i 318i 325i 325e "M" etc. But each of those cars had a different engine variant.
Does the e34 still feel like a boat if the suspension was upgraded to coilovers and stiffer swaybars? I understand the e30 is smaller amd would feel better in the handling but is it that bad of a difference with upgraded suspension between the two?
Keep it shock for fabricate a OEM airbox make from fiberglass. The sound is amazing and is what Lancia Used on their Stratos Group 4 race cars. Zero need for carbon fiber. Reference Jay Leno’s video on the red Group 4 Stratos.
if you specifically just want to compare your pre-facelift (VFL) E34 with a facelift E30 (germanly known as an NFL = after facelift), then ok...otherwise you would need to expand your front yard with an E28 and an E32 (7series) at least in order to compare (although the E28 is more comparable to an E21, of course, given just the looks). Now your door trim and what not depends on whether you have a shadowline or chrome model....also pre-facelift E30s have several different features compared to the NFL (yours). Engines: Pre-FL E30s also came with M10 (carburetor or injection) 315, 316, 318, M20 (320,323,325) and so on...M42 = 318is (Facelift), M40 = 316, 318 Facelift (Tourings and early E36 models)... as for motor rubber bushing mounts, I believe, for an M20 you can use an E23 (older 7series) and just trim the thread a little, they are harder than stock M20....tranny mounts, I believe some of the E21 have better ones that also fit an E30...E30s will have 3 different models of headlights depending on the year...Hofmeister kink is germanly known as the Hofmeister-Knick btw. One interesting fact: I've never seen an oil-cooler on a 525i E34 whereas every 325i E30 should have one...
Bro WTF is "brake light circuit?!?" Mine comes on every once awhile too. I thought it was the switch on the pedal but it still does it after I swapped my pedals during the manual swap(unless the one I swapped is bad too)
You really have no idea about these cars or your opinion really isn't helpful. The e30 is a sports drift car compare to the e34 luxury sport sedan, know the difference.
@@m3nameisjosh464 Alrighty then. I agree that the E34 is a better car and it does drive like a boat. I currently have a 1990 E30 , 316i with 163000 km. It is stock and it's not tincanny. It drives smooth and no road noise, possibly because I haven't abused it or driven recklessly. I live in South Africa. Thanks for your informative video.
What’s up bro can you please make a video comparing the suspension from an E30 to E34 I have an E 34 525 i and I’m trying to find an angle kit but I have had no luck finding one for the E34 for just the E30
The M50 in the E34 had the 24v Vanos from '93 at about the same time as they did the trim facelift. I have a '93 24v Vanos M50B20 with pre-facelift narrow kidney grils and post facelift interior.
pff.. talking about engines NOT to have in the e34... I have an M40, SOHC 1.8l 4cyl my old mk2 vw gti was like a spaceship compared to my slug,, oh and its a touring so even heavier... will be swapping soon...
If he made the video he clearly has had people confusing it. IF ur a bmw geek is such a bmw geek thing to say. U do realize no one cares about our cars but us. Otherwise they look and mistakenly call e34's an e30
I traded my '90 e30 for a '95 e34. Loved the e34 so much I still have it in my garage. The e34 is so much smoother, and quieter, and has traction control and power sunroof. I hate the door rust forming because of the stupid trim piece on the lower door edges. Leather interior has held up well. The car is my "proper" car. RWD, leather, 5 speed. Everything works. Good looking, good handling, no squeaks or rattles, decent performance, solid as a rock. My forever car.
Glad people agree with me!
@@vvasko779 You can apply industrial quality rust converter on and around the rust so that it will stop spreading until you get a chance to repair the rusted plating. Rust converter is water based and you can apply it with a paint brush. Scrape off the excess rust with a steel brush and scraper thoroughly and apply.
If you had to repair the rust permanently, it's not good to weld as this makes the metal weaker and the rust starts quickly again. It's good to pop-rivet zintex metal after curing the rust and beat it in , then apply body filler paste, then primer and paint the original colour of the car.
One noticeable difference between the E30 and E34 when driving it, interior quality and amount of rattling, the E34 doesn't rattle as much inside as an E30, also the E34 is extremely silent inside compared to the E30
Exactly!
@Kicker It's normal when comparing 3-series to 5-series, as 5-series been made with mindset of being little more luxurious.
I've never heard somebody mistaking e34 and e30, how is this even possible😂😂
They're even different in size far different e34 is obviously bigger than the e30
if you are watching this video you probably know a thing or two about 90s bmws, however i could totally understand how someone who does not interested in cars, seeing the e30, e34, and e38 as the same car
@@gingerbassboard a thing or two😂😂😂 boyyy i had 4 e34s and 5 e39s, trust me, i know about bmws enough
Happend to me with family members 😆
@@gingerbassboard you mean E32 right? 😜
I love old school BMWs. Everything thing you push or pull goes click. Very crisp.
That E30 with a turbo would be sick 😈
Agreed
in love with the e34 can’t wait to get it soon 🙈🙈
Sick cars Josh! I recently watched your 5 speed swap video. I just manual swapped my touring and I'm loving it! Now I can get my e30 vert our of storage for a complete paint job (calypso red) and m50 swap. 😀
Thank you man!
The wheels on the e30 are so proper from the era and nostalgic. Smoked headlights on the e34 would look sikk.
E32 and E34 are more related, interior wise and headlights etc… also some undercarriage parts are interchangeable
Both diff vibes. Need both 🤣
My many e28s 85 and up had electric seats including head rests.
The transmission mounts make a big difference for motor vibrations especially if the e30 has solid trans mounts.
E30 has softer trans mounts than e34 lol
@@m3nameisjosh464 thats crazy, shows how much better the e34 handles the vibration
Maybe you could do a E34 vs E32
Thank you for this video, probably gonna have to go with the e34
Just curious you think an e30 318i or an e36 325i would make for a better daily driver? Love the channel btw surprised you don’t have more subscribers
I would say probably an e36 325i. Newer and very simple
check control still exists for e34 its just integrated into the gauge cluster. press and hold the right side button on the cluster and if you dont have any faults the screen will read "Check Control OK"
Actually an E30 is the evolution of the E23 and E28. Remember in those days and through the 90s BMW started new chassis engineering with 7s, then 5s and then 3 series.
The E30 was the later version of the E28 and they started with some of the body shape that eventually was prevalent in the new E32 and E34. So they are often thought of as the same “generation family”. They really weren’t.
Thank you for this!
Wish all the hype beasts didn’t f up the e30 market, was looking for another one but it’s 13k for a clean “dailyable” rust free auto vert in Cali. Got my 5 speed 318i for less then half of that about 6 years ago
Yeah man its brutal😩
Turbocharged the e34 m30 your life would change. As for the narrow kidney grill. The e34 did have a wide kidney grill the last few years before it was discontinued.
It had the wider kidney grill on the 540i. The wider kidney grill was standardised across the range from the 1993/94 facelift onwards.
I'm guilty of having mixed these two cars up back in 2020, when I saw Giorgi Tevzadze drift his black E34 I thought it was an E30. Both are admittedly very nice cars just with different characteristics that come down to personal preferences.
It goes like this for generation equivalents for BMW platform codes:
3series = 5series = 7series
E30=E28=E23
E36=E34=E32
E46=E39=E38
E90=E60=E65
F30=F10=F01
G20=G30=G11
TBA(2026?)=G60=G70
the intercooler on the e34 looks badass asf
How can you possibly mistake an E30 for an E34? They are like chalk and cheese. Even if performance and handling were matched the interior space/comfort/noise are completely different.
Many people think e30 and e28 are same cars. I dont blame them, they look kinda similar. Same goes for e34 and e32
The E-34 is more like a Luxury sedan, for professional people, the E-30 is like for everybody who doesn*-t mind the that the chairs ain*t electric, windows are manual, sunroof is not electric, it uses a crank, eventhough I think they had all those options electric, I believe
Not all E34s had electric seats and some E30s had electric windows and sunroof. It all depended on the trim level and the country they were sold in.
My e34 has no sunroof or electric anything except mirror adjustment. It even has no AC.
as an american, do you think that an E34 540 would be comparable to a muscle car?
Hmmmm, interesting question. Id consider it a german muscle car. Meaning it has muscle car noises but refined german car handling
Whenever I consider a E30, a lot because of the hype and simplicity and aftermarket support. Do I come back to this video to remind myself all the things I love about my E34s.
I have had small light cars before, down to a 750-800 kg one, they are fun, but I get tired of them.
I got two early E34s with the M20 and manual everything and not even abs, so they rarely break on me. I am keeping to my E34s, I might buy a pre-91 535i one day if original, good price and not messed with by younger people, as well as few electric options... have one in mind that is owned by a older gentleman close to me, a 89 535i with no electric gimmicks, a manual and no sunroof!!!
If not a parts car to swap the subframe and drivetrain over to one of my E34s. Besides that I am keeping to my comfy, simple and well handling E34s... E30 sure must be a fun toy, but I use my old cars for transport as well as moving things.
And the extra space over a E30 has saved me many times.
Thanks for the reminder yet again ;)
Edit: might make me sound like a grandpa, but I also really can't go without my drop down E34/E32 armrests 🤣
Love this man! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and why you love e34s too!
The steering was called ball pressure acumulater and regulator.
Great vid, the e34 is also a lot safer than the e30.
Love the color of your e34
Congrats on 5K
Appreciate it!
Are you ever planning on getting an e38 or e39 for the channel?
Maybe one day!
Wow, you got 2 nice e30ies😂😂😂 jk, keep going man! Love the vids!
Lmao! Thanks man!
Excellent review
increible video. ¿recomendarías a el e30 para primer auto?
Big oof - I have an M20 in my E34. But mine's been fully rebuilt and stroked to 2.8 so it's not that bad.
excellent video; thank you
me personally i had to go with an '89 e34 (i couldnt afford an e30 in half decent condition)
E38 (01 740il Highline Sport) and E46 (330ci m sport) owner right here 🖐️ lol
You don't get those in the states but 88-89 E34 with the mechanical cluster, 4 crank windows and analog clock and base cloth seats look like a carbon copy of the E30 inside. The vibe is woozing from it, especially with that M20B20 engine. The dashes don't crack, they expand and get like bloated to the point its impossible to put the dash vent in and you get a huge gap over the central vent. Cutting costs sadly, the E32 dash is from 2 pieces and the separate front part absorbs everything without affecting the rest. Your E30 seats are the vinyl option which looks exactly the same when specced on the E34. And yeah, ugly and outdated. The e36 interior is pure gargabe, 100% agreed
Before I saw this video I thought they were a lot different. Now that I've seen this I realize they are THE SAME CAR! LOL. Except in size. By the way the E30 had many other engines. They had the. 316i 318i 325i 325e "M" etc. But each of those cars had a different engine variant.
Oh yeah the b27 slipped my mind, as did the 316!
E34 😍
Just one suggestion try not to move the camera around too much it makes me feel sick
Does the e34 still feel like a boat if the suspension was upgraded to coilovers and stiffer swaybars? I understand the e30 is smaller amd would feel better in the handling but is it that bad of a difference with upgraded suspension between the two?
Not at all. Coilovers and good suspension mods and E34s drive AMAZING. Watch my Dinan turbo e34 video!
Super!🔧⚙️⛽️🏍🚘🏎👍👍👍
i dont agree they look the same ,if you compare e32 and e34 yes i agree they look kinda simular front and both sides (left and right)
awesome vid!
Thank you!
Probably more mistaking an e34 and an e32 rather than mistaking an e34 for an e30…
Heyy, i have 750i e38 so if i take cold airtake system on it its better or no, your advice?
Keep it shock for fabricate a OEM airbox make from fiberglass. The sound is amazing and is what Lancia Used on their Stratos Group 4 race cars. Zero need for carbon fiber. Reference Jay Leno’s video on the red Group 4 Stratos.
Anyone know what could of caused the warm air in the driver footwell? I had the same issue in my E34
check the rubber seal near the steering column? I have no idea just suggestion
Did you have black headliner originally or have you painted it or is it alcantara material?
Alcantera
Sick vid bud
Appreciate it!
What happens if the m50 runs without knock sensors?
How do you mix up a 3 series with a 5 series?
thanks now i need an e34 daily to go with my e30
Yesssir!
Only Americans can you can only read what writes on the back..it should tell you the diferenc.
Amazing collection ❤❤❤bimmer
So your telling me to get another 5 series lol
M30 motors can boggie!! Twin cam no.!! Single gingle baby!! Big lift single cam power.
if you specifically just want to compare your pre-facelift (VFL) E34 with a facelift E30 (germanly known as an NFL = after facelift), then ok...otherwise you would need to expand your front yard with an E28 and an E32 (7series) at least in order to compare (although the E28 is more comparable to an E21, of course, given just the looks). Now your door trim and what not depends on whether you have a shadowline or chrome model....also pre-facelift E30s have several different features compared to the NFL (yours). Engines: Pre-FL E30s also came with M10 (carburetor or injection) 315, 316, 318, M20 (320,323,325) and so on...M42 = 318is (Facelift), M40 = 316, 318 Facelift (Tourings and early E36 models)... as for motor rubber bushing mounts, I believe, for an M20 you can use an E23 (older 7series) and just trim the thread a little, they are harder than stock M20....tranny mounts, I believe some of the E21 have better ones that also fit an E30...E30s will have 3 different models of headlights depending on the year...Hofmeister kink is germanly known as the Hofmeister-Knick btw. One interesting fact: I've never seen an oil-cooler on a 525i E34 whereas every 325i E30 should have one...
Great info!
These two are nice
Bro WTF is "brake light circuit?!?" Mine comes on every once awhile too. I thought it was the switch on the pedal but it still does it after I swapped my pedals during the manual swap(unless the one I swapped is bad too)
Something ive learned to ignore lol
Get an e28 in this too lol
E28, e12, e34, e24, they are all e30s!
It's the differential.
Bmw have transferable gear ratios. Give or take a mounting Carrier change.
But the E30 is the best BMW EVER .. and not any another bmw !
I loved watching this vid. No reason behind it
dat e30 look sexy asf
Please find a way to hold your camera still. Too much movements are distractive
You really have no idea about these cars or your opinion really isn't helpful. The e30 is a sports drift car compare to the e34 luxury sport sedan, know the difference.
I will immediately disregard someones opinion who calls an e30 a sports drift car
When you going to find and e28?
An e28, e23 and or e24? Maybe e32?
That's the only thing I don't like about e34s. No rack and pinion. Why give it to a lesser model production line. Bummer Bavaria.
The old worm and piston steering. Steering box gear. Heavy in all sense. Idler arm, center link and pinion arm.
Yeah? Get an e34 m5. Lol.
BMW had the nitrogen ball set up for steering as well. Unfortunately it incorporated with the brakes.you lose one you lose the other.
Hofmeister Knick is the Name you‘re looking for
Precisely!
If you want a raddle free nice ride and quiet e30 my stock 1984 325e is the car for you, dont expect to go as fast...lol
Where do you buy your parts?
My stashe of parts hehe
You won't talk nonsense about an E30 if you had an M3 E30.
@@bridges5659 I do have one😇 changed my perspective
@@m3nameisjosh464 Alrighty then. I agree that the E34 is a better car and it does drive like a boat.
I currently have a 1990 E30 , 316i with 163000 km. It is stock and it's not tincanny. It drives smooth and no road noise, possibly because I haven't abused it or driven recklessly. I live in South Africa.
Thanks for your informative video.
@@bridges5659 the maintenance and the history of the car mean the most!
Only American's problems.
Well they both have M50 motors. One came with it and one didn't, but now...lol.
Did the E30 come with the M50 engine? Don't think so, the E36 did have the M50 engine but not the E30.
Less rotating mass.
what are the rims called on your e34?
Oz mito 2
The charge pipes and inter cooler need to be re done and hidden
They will be!
E34! All the way
whats the paint colour for e30
Lacht silver
E34 and E30 both got different tail lights.
That was mentioned
What’s up bro can you please make a video comparing the suspension from an E30 to E34 I have an E 34 525 i and I’m trying to find an angle kit but I have had no luck finding one for the E34 for just the E30
Yeah there is no angle kits for e34 currently. Only thing you’re able to do is run E32 control arms for more camber
How do you get 350hp on a NA M50
You can’t
@@m3nameisjosh464 Then i misunderstood, i thought you said your e30 is making 350. How much does your e30 M50 make then 192?
92? No vanos. Started vanos in 93.
The M50 in the E34 had the 24v Vanos from '93 at about the same time as they did the trim facelift. I have a '93 24v Vanos M50B20 with pre-facelift narrow kidney grils and post facelift interior.
E34 m5 all day
Where u from ??
Your talking big brother little sister. Lol.
Not even on the same level at all .
pff.. talking about engines NOT to have in the e34... I have an M40, SOHC 1.8l 4cyl my old mk2 vw gti was like a spaceship compared to my slug,, oh and its a touring so even heavier... will be swapping soon...
E34
Scissor me Xerxes
First video that he talks a lot like he likes but shows more 🤷♂️
E46 interior < e36 interior (imo)
Who thinks e30s and e34s are the same chassis? 😅
Nearly every person ive ever met that wasn’t a bmw nerd
None. Because both are the sh.t. just different animals. Animals non the less. If the wasn't variety, who would care?
Please least talking and more showing
Lol. This video was not necessary. If your a BMW geek, yiu should know. Ok, fine. You just re-engineried both vehicles. Stop dude. Lol.
One has an M50 with a turbo and one never had and M50.
And the m5o with a turbo never existed.😁
If he made the video he clearly has had people confusing it. IF ur a bmw geek is such a bmw geek thing to say. U do realize no one cares about our cars but us. Otherwise they look and mistakenly call e34's an e30
Who are you?
Talk to much blah blah bla 😕
Literally says at the beginning he will be talking and ur surprised...ur one those morons who's #1 tool is a saw-z-all ain't u