What I Wish I Knew About Pulsar Turbos *GTX3582r Gen 2*
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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This video is my machinist and car enthusiast review of the Pulsar GTX3582r Gen II dual ceramic ball bearing turbo. These are sometimes referred to as an eBay turbo since they are affordable and sold on eBay. Pulsar Turbo Systems is a high quality affordable turbo for the average car enthusiast! Don’t believe me!? Check out the video even though it’s a long one. I plan on putting this turbo on my F20b / H22 5th Gen Prelude and seeing how she does!
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I was really hoping you were going to take off the cold side housing so I could see if Pulsar had installed the very important large o-ring that seals it against the back plate. Is that o-ring there and in place? Please let me know. Thank you
Great question! Yes pulsar does have the cold side oring. I have never had issues with leaks there and at the gauge this turbo has hit 35 psi.
If you ever have sealing issues at that point (I did on a Borg Warner efr 7163 and new o ring…rtv goes a long way)
Ive been making over 600whp for over a year now on my rb26 and its been great, pulsar gen2 gtx3582r
Hows that RB going 10 months on?
@@MrJ4s3 ill show you in a vid post right nowwwwwww. Uploading now
Awesome! So around/over two years and the pulsar turbos holding up eh? How many kms have you roughly put on it? Thanks for your response!
@@MrJ4s3 probs 10,000kms
what octane,boost pressure, and when do you see full boost?
Have a Pulsar G30-770, dual v band on my R34 GTR. Tomei 260 Poncams.
Starts to make boost at 3000, really feel it at 3400, it's flying by 4000.
Running 250kpa boost, and 513whp.
It's a fantastic street car now
I’m currently having an issue getting a hold of them to warranty my turbo as it already shredded in 3 days. I need a new one like yesterday and I don’t want to go through taking off the turbine housing and all that as I only need a new chra and compressor housing
fantastic video. clear and informative
I'm looking for a new turbo. A friend recommended me to look at pulsar turbos. Just wondering if it's a good turbo to go with. The cost is price is nice, but is it reliable and make power like a garret or precision turbo?
To clarify: The turbine housing inlet has an ID of 2.5” the OD of that flange is 3”
This is important to know as some aftermarket companies specify their v band flanges differently. Sometimes they are spec’ed from the ID and sometimes from the OD. This can be annoying when trying to buy v bands as I found out with my last setup. Sorry for the off camera shot and confusion!
The exhaust housing flange ID is 3” and OD is 3.553”
@THE STATE OF REAL Hi there I've been watching your videos for a while in regards to building my 97 prelude, it has got me through obstacles that I was unfamiliar about, and you have been a really great help.I hope you continue to make more videos. I am currently working on turbo charging my car, and I've searched the web continuously for a kit and all I've managed to find was ebay brands and websites that looked outdated. I was wondering would pulsar be able to help me out? I would like your input, any advice will help, much appreciate it, and once again thank you for your videos, keep up the great work I wish you the best!! 🙏
Thank brother! I am always here to help. Reach out anytime.
The best way to turbo charge a car is piecing good parts together. Ebay kits tend to sacrifice on quality which causes you to buy everything over again. Cast log manifolds are good to get your feet wet but chances are your going to move to a tubular one. You want to find a good schedule 10 or 40 tubular turbo manifold. You want to have a real name brand external waste gate and blow off valve as these are safety devices to prevent engine destruction under boost. Pulsar makes many different size turbos which gives you price range flexibility.
@@thestateofreal2533 Thank you for reaching out I much appreciate the help, hope all is well with you. I have everything set up and ready to install. The turbo kit is the last of the puzzle piece, when I saw your setup I was able to pick out few references on how to go about installing it..If it's not too much trouble I would like to send you few videos once she's on the dyno, I'm close to completing my forced induction project..Glad to be part of a community that's very passionate and willing to help out with these rare species lol
any discount code for a pulsar purchase
nice turbo - but also loving the crossbow hanging in the background ... they were banned years ago in Australia :-(
Crossbows aren’t banned in Oz🇦🇺 how do you come up with that crap. I’m looking at 2 of mine now as well as a assortment of legal firearms.
Love it. Wish I had more time for it!
this turbo is good ? it very cheap
Any idea if gtx35 turbine housings would fit on the newer g35 turbos? Really want the divided t4 housing on a g35
The G series has a different turbine wheel profile than the GT(X) series. They are not interchangeable.
Glad you like it dude :)
Thanks man! How are you liking yours?
@@thestateofreal2533 been running them and selling them for 3 years boss. They work a treat.
@@BEYTEK did pulsar give you a code to sell them?
They sponsored me as well but I never got a code but I guess I didn’t ask. I will have to email Austin.
@@thestateofreal2533 no no I’m an actual dealer haha. Not sponsored.
How is this turbo holding up ? I'm looking at the 3584r. Any help for your channel I can see when buying or discount codes for us ? Or have a old one laying around I can buy lol. T3 v ban .
Considering a Pulsar 3076 for an aircooled Porsche 911 engine. Whats the diff between the Gen I and Gen II? Since the car doesn't have a water cooling system, it will be used with oil only for cooling as well as lubrication... any advice appreciated.
If my memory serves me right, the Gen I had a different compressor wheel profile.
With just oil cooled you can install a turbo timer which keeps your car on after you take the key out allowing the car to execute a cool down cycle. I’m not very familiar with Porsche air cooled engines but if they are just block/cylinder to air heat transferring and don’t have an external oil cooler then you can probably install one.
All that being said the only downside to not having a cooler is what’s called coking (cooking of the oil on the bearding and seals). This has said to prematurely wear out the bearing cartridge of turbos.
not sure if you would get back to me, but i want to know how the pulsar turbo hold up so far? about to order mine very soon and i hope i get some feedback from you thanks
Still holding up great. The only complaint I have is it comes with a brass oil control fitting. When I went to change my oil feed line out for a new one, I stripped the threads off of the oil control fitting and ended up buying a stainless steel one.
would you happen to know if the generic ebay gt35 exhaust housing would work on this turbo?
Getting this for my 340i
Did you get it? I’m Also looking into this turbo for my 340i
Turbulence...lol, the flow of all gasses in combustion engines is wildly turbulent. I wouldn't worry about bolt holes.
Would this turbo be good for a 2015 3.7 q50?
Yea it would probably be a bit small to run by itself but with two it would be golden.
Can i hook it up on 3.6 liter engine at 8 psi boost??
Absolutely!
Garrett gen2 comp wheel is also 10-blade. gen1 is 11-blade. cool video...
How is this holding up? I'm strongly considering one for my st.. looking for about 400whp. Maybe a smaller turbo would be better. These are the early stages, but I'm definitely going somewhere. Hope this is holding up! Let me know! Thanks so much
Geoffrey
Holding up great so far. Spools fast and sounds great as it does. With the baby on the way it’s been hard to get out on the dyno but Iv done some street tuning and it’s not perfect yet but when it hits the dyno I’m sure it will be even crazier with launch control (anti-lag) setup. Setting up anti-lap will be another good stress test.
Honestly as someone who said they wanted 400whp it is nice to start with a turbo that has room for growth. I maxed my first one out in the same summer I put it on. 400whp is the fun range for usable street use though!
@@thestateofreal2533 thanks for the reply! That's what I was wanting to hear!!! Congratulations on the baby. Enjoy it. We have a 5 year old, 3 year old and a 2 year old. All girls haha idk how I managed that so I totally feel ya on the lack of time!... yea 400 sounds like a nice number! I was at 500 with my old mk4 supra and that was a lot of fun. Sold that to buy our first house and the focus is my first real step back into the auto scene.. I had a 135i n54 and a 2017 sti but never did anything with them besides drive from a to b. The st has full bolt ons running a street tune by jst through Cobb, 91 tune and e30. On e30 it should dyno 300whp 400wtq, thats what similar setups are making. It's a hoot but I just want a little more lol
@@geoffnelson64 we might have to talk again as the baby is a girl lol
Those are all great cars! The fever gets to you! Good luck brother. Nice talking to you!
How is it going with this turbo? I'm considering buying a G25-660 right now and I want to read reviews or see actual cars running the same brand turbo
If my tig welder didn’t have an issue I would have already had this turbo on and been to the dyno. The new one comes tomorrow so more to follow 🤟🏻
What’s the update on the turbo how is it holding up with the abuse so far, has it failed how much boost are you running.
Whats the Size of the Turbine Wheel and Compressor Wheel ??
These turbo are the same as the boosted boys run just with a better front housing if your not planning on making 700 whp a gtx3076r gen 2 would be a better option
Looking for more power as I had a Borg Warner EFR 7163. I thought about the gtx3076r Gen 2 initially but it’s not much bigger than the EFR. Working on modifying my h22 trans bell housing to fit the k series transfer case to go awd 😁
When you start these things, often they snowball into bigger things lol my initial goal was 450 so room to grow is where I’m at now.
@@thestateofreal2533 for sure I’d just go billet case or h2b
I wanna go to 750-800hp. Do they have turbo´s for that power?
@moonabys honestly the turbo I have can go to 750-800 it all depends on fuel types used and displacement of your engine. A 3582r has plenty of exhaust free flow to make that power. Right now I’m limited by boost creep. I’m hoping to add another waste gate.
I am shocked! I am so going to get a Pulsar Turbo... price is fantastic.. how's the turbo doing?
Great! I was beating on it yesterday! I’d say the only thing I have against it is the brass oil control fitting.
I like those nice and tight as I have seen many a fellow car enthusiast burn up their entire engine bay because the oil feed line comes loose and sprays oil all over the hot manifold. When I went to make it nice and tight I stripped the threads right off it but this was easily remedied with a $12 steel one.
How has this turbo been? Still going strong?
So strong I broke some gears in my transmission haha
No complaints other than the brass oil control orifice. I suggest replacing it with a stainless steel one for long term durability.
Any chance you con re-confirm the inlet size for the turbine exhaust? I reached out to pulsar and they said its actually 2.5 inches not 3
Sure, I will do that when I get home.
Got home late from work and I have the turbo mocked up on my car so I have to remove it tomorrow
I spoke with them on ig the inlet vband for the exhaust side is 2.5" the outlet is 3"
Yes the ID of the turbine inline is 2.5” the OD of that flange is 3” this is important as some aftermarket companies specify their v band flanges differently. Sometimes from the ID and sometimes from the OD. This can be annoying when trying to buy v bands as I found out with my last setup. Sorry for the off camera confusion!
Thanks for the review. I have a question, where did you put the boost port for the external wastegate? Did you use the speed sensor port for it?
Looks like a really quality turbo. Thanks.
How has the turbo held up so far?
Any dyno for this turbo ?
I am finishing the downpipe end dump tube setup as the old ones didn’t work with the new turbo and then I will be back to the dyno
@@thestateofreal2533 and how did that go? we're about to compare a Garrett GTX30/76 vs the Pulsar GTX30/76 for real world results without any sponsoring from either company as that tends to favor one over the other!!
Maybe weak people will favor the ones with sponsorships. I’m about facts. I don’t want people spending money on something that’s not worth it. The dyno has been booked. I might need to find a new one.
Around what rpm is the boost kicking in at?
Have yet to get it on the dyno! Hopefully in the next month we will
I have a 98 honda prelude 5 speed with 223,000 miles basically stock. I'm 68 retired . Gave to son , but he prefers driving the 2011 leus is250. I drive a 2006 subie sti, but getting tired of it.
They are great aren’t they! Eh you can only bring a horse to water they say. I guess the 2011 Lexus is250 is “more current” and might better attract the ladies? Haha
Wow quick reply.
@@pirihern9329 I often have people with questions so I try to get back quickly and being a dog dad it’s makes that easy since I’m up to let her out every night around 3-4 am and up at 6am
I wanna be as cool as you when I'm 68!
Is there a pulsar turbo that works on a prescion flange ??
By precision flange you mean Precision Turbo? Turbo flanges are pretty much standardized so yes these work with any turbo flange.
@@thestateofreal2533 yes 3” precision v band clamp. I need a dual v band turbo
@@codyhirschmann2639 they do!
Quick question how did you go about getting a sponsor from Pulsar? Thanks
I told them I had a channel and showed them statistics about my viewer base and view minutes per month and asked if they would be willing to sponsor the build. Most companies do sponsorships but they have criteria for you to meet.
Since you’re sponsored, do you have a discount code?
Is water cooling required?
Great question! I’m sure the manufacturer would suggest using them to lengthen the life of the bearings but no.
Can you use a pulsar with an exhaust housing from Garrett turbo?
Does it match?
Trying to figure this out myself
@@levicharles4499 I did. It do match
@@papastoned thanks for the reply
Yes the turbo mounting surfaces are pretty universally interchangeable.
they will not. It's how they get around ripping garrett. It will be close but not exact.
Are you running a separate coolant system for the turbo?
I am using coolant from the engine to cool the turbo
@@thestateofreal2533 nice, where are you tapping into the coolant, and returning?
@@IAutoEnthusiast if it's a turbo car already you just use the existing lines if not then work it out that's what uncle Google is for.
Yea the preludes aren’t a turbo car to begin with so have to figure out with coolant lines are charged with water pump pressure and go from there and then work in a return.
While they do seem to be well made I’ve seen a lot of poor power results compared to the real deal turbo. My mate recently dyno’d his built skyline with pulsar g30-770 should have made about 600whp at his boost level and it made under 500. Complete disappointment.
Well hopefully I don’t have the same problem haha
Pressure is created when there is a lot air flow but can't go inside the engine. So same boost on both turbos is the same amount of air. The problem will be if there is more lag in this one. So... why is turbos fault less power? maybe the problem is something else on the car... maybe there is not enough octane for that amount of pressure and ignition will be lower...
@@AndresFelipeVasquezFigueroa same boost on both turbos is not the same amount of air that’s completely wrong. What it means is that this turbos flow lb/min is actually significantly lower than the real g30-770 so same boost on both turbos does not equal same power.
If what you were saying was actually true than 20psi on a stock turbo would make the same hp as a big ass turbo at 20psi which obviously isn’t the case.
@@CarbageRacing are you sure or are you comparing 20 psi at 4000rpm vs 20 psi at 6000rpm? as i said on my previous comment. Pressure is an amount of airflow with restriction to go inside your engine. On every engine cycle your valves let air flow to the cylinder and that's consuming air and your turbo keep spining to hold that amount of pressure. If you can increase your valves size or camshaft advance... boost will be lower but you can see more power in your dyno. that's because there is more time or space to move that air into the chamber. That's how pressure works. You can also put your camshaft on negative values all the time to get 40 psi.... that doesn't mean more power at all... just more restriction... and more boost. if you can explainme why same boost at same rpm with same engine and different turbos can make more power... i will be happy to read and understand your logic.
No speed sensor port?
That is an option but I opted out. I had a speed sensor on my Borg Warner efr 7163 but the tuner didn’t use it much…didn’t need to.
Change tuners not turbos @@thestateofreal2533
Anyone have use pulsar external wastegate???
Good turbos ,shit wastegate
Where are they made dude im thinking about one the same but T3 for my Mitsubishi evo 3 build
Fortunately or unfortunately I believe the plant is in China. There are a lot made in China but definitely not to this quality that I have seen. They have a branch in the US but so far as I understand it’s only for distribution.
@@thestateofreal2533 thanks for the reply but lots of stuff is made in china these days and quality has improved massively over the years i was just curious cause i only just seen the brand here in New Zealand and for the price and they look very good and dual ball bearing. 😀
Exactly! A lot of people can’t appreciate the quality. They see China and write it off. I love a competitive market that can bring consumers a good product for a good price. That’s why I bought Pulsar!
@@thestateofreal2533 a mates mechanic shop had a mk4 R32 Golf with a Chinese gt3582 turbo on it and its nuts 340kw at the wheels and its never had an issue with the turbo and its a caged road legal track car. I drove it a few times and damn it was quick and only 20psi boost nothing crazy to ruin the turbo
That’s awesome! I had a Borg Warner EFR 7163 (58mm) on my Honda prelude before and maxed out the efficiency of the turbo at 410kw on a dynapack at 22psi on e85. Hoping to covert to awd and push this new turbo into the 522kw range!
Hello,
Was wondering how long shipping took after you ordered? I plan to order a GTX3576 and want to plan everything out. Thanks!
It took a week for me. I know they have a USA branch and a branch in Asia so max I would think 2 weeks from anywhere in the world.
@@thestateofreal2533 ok awesome! Was wondering if they had a presence here. Thanks for the info!
That’s a tiny exhaust housing. Faster spool?
.82 is enough to take me into the 700+ so I should be good. I don’t know yet, I just sold my Borg Warner EFR so it will be hard to beat that.
Can you measure hot side v band flange to outer edge exhaust housing ?
The width of the turbine housing you mean?
@@thestateofreal2533 Sorry about the late follow up: but asking the distance from hot side vband inlet across to outer edge of the housing. Trying to determine how much clearance I’ll need once mounted to a manifold
@@hotskillet so kinda like a radius from the center of the v band hole out to the outer most edge of the housing?
@@thestateofreal2533 correct
I wonder how the knockoff compares with the 35-1050
Only one way to find out 😉
Does Pulsar carry a written warranty and do they do full burst testing on their turbo wheels?
No, most turbo manufacturers at this price range do not carry a warranty or do burst testing as most end users don’t care. You might have different needs that require that test.
So is there much difference in quality between pulsar and maxspeeding turbos thanks
Yes, maxspeeding turbos just come from Alibaba.com / AliExpress.com and are laser etched with the company name. Pulsar has gotten together with a manufacturer to have a turbo built thats why you can’t find it on AliExpress or Alibaba. Pulsar also has great customer service!
All the same shit, he sponsored so he won’t be honest. They all come from the same company different stamps. If it’s in China same warehouse just like the rest of the stuff they have one belt warehouse that makes all bets one that makes all shoes women that makes glasses one that machine parts out of steel like turbos. That’s why they all look the same use the same fittings just look closely
as far as I can see there are 3 turbo manufacturers. The ones that are likethe maxspeeding are lower quality I have found. the ones like on3 are good and the ones like the pulsar are also good.
Maxspeedingrods bb turbos are very expensive compared to those pulsars
Most of these prices are just inflated based on increasing demand as a brand grows.
What size is the engine?
2.0L
@@thestateofreal2533 Thanks... Hi, you had 550 whp before? Which turbo? When did it start getting into boost and when was max boost?
@@dennisrobinson8008 the previous turbo I had was the Borg Warner efr 7163. I started showing 5psi at 3200 rpm if my memory serves me right. Full boost was 28 psi in the 4300 rpm range. Honestly this was a little insane for my daily running regular 225 sport tires.
@@thestateofreal2533 Thanks for that! So EFR 7163 got you all the way to 550whp? 28 PSI on 2.0L, insane. Was there any boost at all between 2000-3000 rpm?
@@dennisrobinson8008 This was on E85 as well so that helps. Tbh I was just breaking into the 540’s at best lol. The Borg Warner I had was used already but I believe it could hit 550 with cop ignition. I was blowing the spark out and had to gap down to .016 and had an unexpected failing distributor and had to grind one of the eyelets to get more ignition advance lol
Honda Power
Pulsar is made in China?
Yes
@@thestateofreal2533 hows the turbo holding up? Did you run the given oil restrictor?
@@Hello_its_me_mario holding up great! I actually moved from the brass one to a 7/16-24 1 mm stainless steel one as I stripped the threads off of it when I had to replace a leaking oil feed line. I am looking to clean up my tune some more on the dyno here soon. I have been playing it safe with a rich street tune. My fx350 clutch will be the weak point into the 600hp+ range.
Mmm
Turban😂
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It’s always funny watching the final product of yourself on video. “Turbine” is obviously the way it should have come out 😅
Wth is a turban housing👳🏾♂️🏠
It’s spelt “turbine housing” 🤟🏻
Turbine, not turbin
I’m aware, it’s my accent
I am having the worst customer service with them. They are not answering my emails and claims
What is your situation?
@@thestateofreal2533 is leaking oil from the hotside of the turbine housing not much but is leaking. The turbo started to leak on the same Day I Just intall it.
Sorry to hear that! Did you use the oil restrictor fitting it came with?
I check twice that the oil is coming Out from the washer.
@@thestateofreal2533 yes I did, looks like it is a machine production