Thanks for this video. Just getting into archery after being away from it for 30 years, approaching like i do with weapons training and this helps a lot.
I switched from a spot hog finger release to the nock 2 it and I was able to train all of my target panic away Really big believer in thumb releases!!!
I use the silverback and nock2it combo. Good way to have tension option and hunting release cross over. Isn’t the carter wise choice and the nock2it the same just 3 finger vs 2 finger.
I hunt with a hinge and love it, have been using it for the last couple years and won’t shoot another style again. I feel it makes you focus more on your shot process and making clean shots than punching the trigger like it owes you money.
The Too Simple has a shorter head than the Wise Choice and the Nock2It (which are essentially the same release). So anchor point is going to be slightly different between the three. A direct crossover to the Wise Choice is the First Choice. The Silverback is a two-finger version of the Evolution.
Thanks Dan for putting this out. I've been wanting to get a new handheld release for awhile now, but unsure to go with a thumb or tension. How do you guys like the new backstrap index from dud. That one fits my style more for hunting but also want the best accuracy possible.
I am a huge Wise choice/Too Simple fan. I recently took the 2 hour ride out to Lancaster Archery and bought the UltraView hinge 2 in stainless with stainless hunting bracket. WOW!! Love that release. I will be using that for backyard and 3D shoots and TAC this year. I’ll stick to the Wise Choice for hunting.
@@thomaslathrop5438 To be honest, I do not use the UV hinge anymore. It just sits in my drawer collecting dust. I will sell it for half of what I paid if you’re interested. It is a great release, but I have so many that I just don’t use that anymore. Just shooting the wise choice these days
Last year when I was truly getting into archery I was borrowing my father in-laws wrist release. It was catching and throwing off my aim. Went to the archery shop and got the Wise Choice. That thing is rock solid and greatly improved my shooting! Can’t recommend it enough
I feel after watching this the barrel would be my choice but just like u stated about the tension release it helps keeps u from bumping forward having to keep pulling back thanks dan thanks Tim hunting season is a blink away
Holding weight 15 pounds??? My target compound was over 30. Thumb releases might be ok for hunting but I think they foster punching the button and flinching, and not maintaining back tension through the shot. But then maybe you need more draw weight to activate back tension. I still use my CheckIt release.
I hate to sound like a moron, but I STILL don’t understand what the benefit is to a “surprise” shot. Why use a thumb or tension release? Why not be in total control of your shot timing? I get that wrist caliper jaw releases can be not in perfect uniform, but I’m still not sure why I need to switch. All I know is that all the top shooters aren’t using wrist releases. Thanks for any insight.
Basically so the body doesn't brace for impact knowing something is about to go off... and it helps keep you fixed on getting your sight on the target and holding steady.. - TC
So the wise choice and Nock 2 It are pretty similar, which would choose between the two and why? Nock2it seems to have a little ledge for the third finger.
Any experience with the Carter Chocolate Addiction? Currently have the like mike, chocolate addiction, and wise choice on a cart waiting to decide between the wise choice and chocolate addiction.
Man the timing of this video is clutch! I just started researching hinge release last night. Have my eye set on the TRU Ball HBC and was also looking at Carter's lineup since I enjoy The Lucky index release so much. ABT!
If you’re looking at buying your first hinge, I would recommend the B3 Ranger. Nice hinge and comes with a wrist strap. The wrist strap is nice when you’re learning the hinge or new to handheld releases.
Would have liked to see you try & review Trufire Synapse just bought one. Thumb trigger release I like it, but would like to hear your thoughts. Bought it on line nether pro shop I deal with stocks them
Guys please keep doing what you do , you just give your opinion and don’t try to sell me anything by the way I shoot a first choice love also I like the just be cus and the insatiable 3 they are great too
@@Trashpandapermaculture you may need to increase your draw length, or increase the length of your d-loop in order to use a similar anchor as a wrist strap.
Great video. I was JUST in the market for a few weeks and not sure what to get so I ended up going with the Nock 2It. I have since seen some others from Carter, I will be buying soon as these will end up like wheels with my race and drift cars....can never have too many
i have the Scott Longhorn Hexx and love it . I had target panic and watched the video of Bill Winke and bought one ...the problem is that im so sucessefull with it that im left the finger index release ...
Thanks for the great video. Some advice please? I use an index release but seems everyone says a thumb release will assist with accuracy. What concerns me is the clicking sounds I hear when you attach it to the d loop. When I walk and stalk hunt this can't be good right? At a distance it should be fine but 30 yards and less?
You can go either way with one that clicks on or doesn't but most people would try to attach the release prior to getting in tight with game.. the click is very light though - TC
Trufire Synapse! great crossover to a Sear for training purposes but a really smooth release that you can adjust travel and tension of the thumb barrell
Check out the Whalen's Hooker Release! A little known company with one of the most simple and best back tension releases on the market. Fully adjustable hook style back tension release. I set mine so all I have to do is relax my hand and pull into my back wall, the hook slips off the D- loop and it fires. Great release of target or hunting because all you have to do is use back tension!
@@ElkShapeThere are a few videos on youtube about the Whalen's Hooker, they are old though. That would be cool! If you do I would loan it to you for a video.
Great video guys! I'd love to see a collab with Chris Bee. I''m bouncing between the Nock2It and B3 Hawk with short stem. The wiseguy is a great release but is a bit too sensitive for me to wrap my knuckle around without worrying about it going off. What are your thoughts on wrist strap releases? Joel Turner's ShotIQ stuff on the elk collective was great for me.
@@ElkShape I'd love to see it! I was about to buy a tension release not long ago until I heard the loud click it makes when it let's go. I want every advantage I can get since I'm not the best hunter lol
The only problem I have with the reviews is that things like releases, bows etc. are all individually related. What is great for one person maybe crap to another! People just need to go in and try them for themselves! Explaining each one and perhaps what to look for ( the pros & cons) is the best way to help others! Just saying......
Ive got a Carter Ember. Scott BackSpin. and a Truball 360. The Truball 360 has developed an issue where it can go off at random without touching the trigger. Shame because its a nice crisp release.
Good video bro and yes I’m one that supports Chris B! I’ve never used a hinge release always used back strap release but I’d like to try one. Which one would y’all recommend me starting with?
Just bought the wise choice and I really like it. It is LOUD, LOUD, LOUD. Did you do anything to the release to quiet it up for hunting? Thanks and dig your vids
What's Chris 🐝 got that you ain't got and your strong as shit I vote you for President peace bro love your content and your positivity you ever need place to stay in Lancaster PA you got one have good day bro!
What release are you all digging? Comment below who you think we should collab with in the future 👇
Elk Shape, John Dudley, Cameron Hanes, joe Rogan, Mark Healy
I’m shooting a nock 2 it
I shoot the Carter Wise Choice. Love it.
I shoot a Stan perfex
Love my stan perfx thumb release
He was saying Chris Bee, I thought I heard Crispy. Don't know who Chris Bee is, but all in favor of Crispy!
Check out Chris Bee, he has a great UA-cam channel
Do a collaboration with Chris! He is one of my favorites!!
Sounds like a good idea 🤘
Also would like to see a collab with Chris!
🐝🐝
Do a collab with Chris for sure!!!
Thanks for this video. Just getting into archery after being away from it for 30 years, approaching like i do with weapons training and this helps a lot.
so glad it helped 🙏
I switched from a spot hog finger release to the nock 2 it and I was able to train all of my target panic away
Really big believer in thumb releases!!!
I use the silverback and nock2it combo. Good way to have tension option and hunting release cross over.
Isn’t the carter wise choice and the nock2it the same just 3 finger vs 2 finger.
Very close.. it seems
I hunt with a hinge and love it, have been using it for the last couple years and won’t shoot another style again. I feel it makes you focus more on your shot process and making clean shots than punching the trigger like it owes you money.
Word up the hinge will be my backup this year - TC
The Too Simple has a shorter head than the Wise Choice and the Nock2It (which are essentially the same release). So anchor point is going to be slightly different between the three. A direct crossover to the Wise Choice is the First Choice.
The Silverback is a two-finger version of the Evolution.
Word 🤘
Using Spot Hogg Wiseguy, i haven’t tried a barrel release yet, maybe next spring/summer ill try something different.
Worth a shot!
Thanks Dan for putting this out. I've been wanting to get a new handheld release for awhile now, but unsure to go with a thumb or tension. How do you guys like the new backstrap index from dud. That one fits my style more for hunting but also want the best accuracy possible.
I went with the nock2it and it's definitely different but in a good way!!!
I just ordered the nock 2 it last night, excited about it! Thanks for the helpful video
Hope you enjoy it!
You seriously need to do a video in the Stan releases.
suggestion noted 🤘
I have the Carter insatiable 3 and am very happy with it.
Glad to hear it!
@@ElkShape update have added a truball extension for an abyss to my Carter insatiable. Crazy ha? 🏹🤠👍
I am a huge Wise choice/Too Simple fan.
I recently took the 2 hour ride out to Lancaster Archery and bought the UltraView hinge 2 in stainless with stainless hunting bracket.
WOW!!
Love that release.
I will be using that for backyard and 3D shoots and TAC this year.
I’ll stick to the Wise Choice for hunting.
@@thomaslathrop5438
To be honest, I do not use the UV hinge anymore.
It just sits in my drawer collecting dust. I will sell it for half of what I paid if you’re interested. It is a great release, but I have so many that I just don’t use that anymore.
Just shooting the wise choice these days
Would also love to see a collab with Chris and even the Dudster!
🐝🤘
Last year when I was truly getting into archery I was borrowing my father in-laws wrist release. It was catching and throwing off my aim. Went to the archery shop and got the Wise Choice. That thing is rock solid and greatly improved my shooting! Can’t recommend it enough
I've been pumped on it for a long time - TC
I feel after watching this the barrel would be my choice but just like u stated about the tension release it helps keeps u from bumping forward having to keep pulling back thanks dan thanks Tim hunting season is a blink away
Dan's leaving today to chase pronghorns - TC, crazy!
My first release on my first compound is a Too Simple. It was so much better than the budget wrist/finger/bondage strap thing.
I've been looking for this for days ... ELK Shape Mind readers!
we try hard
OH hell yeah that would be awesome you and Chris Bee
Holding weight 15 pounds??? My target compound was over 30.
Thumb releases might be ok for hunting but I think they foster punching the button and flinching, and not maintaining back tension through the shot. But then maybe you need more draw weight to activate back tension.
I still use my CheckIt release.
I hate to sound like a moron, but I STILL don’t understand what the benefit is to a “surprise” shot. Why use a thumb or tension release? Why not be in total control of your shot timing? I get that wrist caliper jaw releases can be not in perfect uniform, but I’m still not sure why I need to switch. All I know is that all the top shooters aren’t using wrist releases. Thanks for any insight.
Basically so the body doesn't brace for impact knowing something is about to go off... and it helps keep you fixed on getting your sight on the target and holding steady.. - TC
So the wise choice and Nock 2 It are pretty similar, which would choose between the two and why? Nock2it seems to have a little ledge for the third finger.
Totally a preference.. Is there anyway you can try them out? Or they do hold there value pretty well if you want to buy and sell!
Seems like you like them all. Not sure what to think of this video. Great demonstration.
The thumb release you should have even pressure and even the hinge you should activate it by pulling and even pressure on all fingers when shooting
If its a smaller 3 finger you're less likely to set it off yourself? Is that why they go small? Have to switch off an index sooner than later.
Any experience with the Carter Chocolate Addiction? Currently have the like mike, chocolate addiction, and wise choice on a cart waiting to decide between the wise choice and chocolate addiction.
honestly you're not going to make a bad choice.. we like how the wise choice & too simple clip onto the string if that helps - TC
I swear by the carter evolution/silverback
Definitely a video with Chris!
word
Definitely collaborate with Chris Bee.
I'm using a Spot hogg wise guy. Thinking of picking up a Carter Wise Choice for my first hand held.
It's a good'n
Dosent carter make the nock2it ? Just a different logo
nice video guys hello from Australia.
Man the timing of this video is clutch! I just started researching hinge release last night. Have my eye set on the TRU Ball HBC and was also looking at Carter's lineup since I enjoy The Lucky index release so much. ABT!
If you’re looking at buying your first hinge, I would recommend the B3 Ranger. Nice hinge and comes with a wrist strap. The wrist strap is nice when you’re learning the hinge or new to handheld releases.
@@clayanderson3999
Thanks for the rec. I'll check it out.
Glad we could help!
Would have liked to see you try & review Trufire Synapse just bought one. Thumb trigger release I like it, but would like to hear your thoughts. Bought it on line nether pro shop I deal with stocks them
If it's working for you keep it rolling! We haven't shot it yet - TC
Been stuck on the Truball Blade Pro for years. You should give it a look. No more fiddling with latching on your d-loop and super quiet at the shot.
cool!
Guys please keep doing what you do , you just give your opinion and don’t try to sell me anything by the way I shoot a first choice love also I like the just be cus and the insatiable 3 they are great too
Thank you glad you're enjoying!
Going to get a thumb release in a couple weeks. Does your draw length need to messed with or does everything start the same?
Typically yes - it will lengthen your draw if you're going from a longer index release.. TC
@@ElkShape As in you would have to go from, for example, a 28" to 28.5" or the other way around?
@@Trashpandapermaculture you may need to increase your draw length, or increase the length of your d-loop in order to use a similar anchor as a wrist strap.
Went with nock 2 it but maybe should of went wise choice ill see cant shoot either so ill see
do a elk or whitetail hunt collab
with who?
You and Chris drag his ass around a mountain see who gets the biggest
Great video. I was JUST in the market for a few weeks and not sure what to get so I ended up going with the Nock 2It. I have since seen some others from Carter, I will be buying soon as these will end up like wheels with my race and drift cars....can never have too many
exactly!
Stan Perfex. Love it. Nice review!
Thanks for watching!
i have the Scott Longhorn Hexx and love it . I had target panic and watched the video of Bill Winke and bought one ...the problem is that im so sucessefull with it that im left the finger index release ...
Nice - glad to hear its helped!
Do 50yrds 3 ends, best group wins against chris bee
noted - 🤘
Thanks for the great video. Some advice please? I use an index release but seems everyone says a thumb release will assist with accuracy. What concerns me is the clicking sounds I hear when you attach it to the d loop. When I walk and stalk hunt this can't be good right? At a distance it should be fine but 30 yards and less?
You can go either way with one that clicks on or doesn't but most people would try to attach the release prior to getting in tight with game.. the click is very light though - TC
Trufire Synapse! great crossover to a Sear for training purposes but a really smooth release that you can adjust travel and tension of the thumb barrell
Right on
I've used the Carter Wise Choice. Phenomenal release but required a change in peep set up going from a wrist release.
We've seen that happen before..
You guys give good instructions ty Chris bee would be a great collaboration
Thanks!
I got a too simple that is 2 finger ! I love it but I wonder if it's a Knock to it with out the hype?
Very similar - both made by Carter
And definitely like to see the colab with #bereal
word up!
Please do a video on Stan releases!
Anyone hunt with a honey? And is that a large?
I’ve been thinking about a hinge or thumb for a while. I might pull the trigger on a Carter after I hunt. Btw a collab with Chris would be great 👍🏻
Go for it!
Is it the guy that are interesting or how to use the realer?
Cartel honey is similar to Truball SweetSpot release 🙃🙃
word
You guys should do a release shootoff with budget handhelds
word!
I have a nock to it. Like the two finger for less string torque
Glad it's working well for you
Late, but what song is the intro and who sings it?
Killing those intros.
Thanks, sincerely TIM the video man ✌️
Latharna Archery are also doing a series on hand held back tension releases😃
Very cool!
Nice vid guys!! Keep em coming👍 and yes we wanna see a collab with Chris
Thanks Zach
Tru Ball HBC 4 lyfe
Check out the Whalen's Hooker Release! A little known company with one of the most simple and best back tension releases on the market. Fully adjustable hook style back tension release. I set mine so all I have to do is relax my hand and pull into my back wall, the hook slips off the D- loop and it fires. Great release of target or hunting because all you have to do is use back tension!
We'll look into it - we need a donation account lol.. would be super fun to do a larger more comprehensive test in 2021 - TC
@@ElkShapeThere are a few videos on youtube about the Whalen's Hooker, they are old though. That would be cool! If you do I would loan it to you for a video.
Just cuz by Carter luv it
Nock 2 it for me. Shooting better than ever with it.
Glad its working well for you!
You and Chris should do a podcast on some topic and oh yes, a shoot off!
Word
Carter just cuz is usually my favorite. Nock 2 it and the Tru ball blade are in my pouch too.
it's nice to have options 🤘
@@ElkShape if you haven't checked out the blade it's super comfortable. I like a heavier trigger thing
Please do a collaboration vid with Chris B!!!
🐝🐝
Great video guys! I'd love to see a collab with Chris Bee.
I''m bouncing between the Nock2It and B3 Hawk with short stem. The wiseguy is a great release but is a bit too sensitive for me to wrap my knuckle around without worrying about it going off.
What are your thoughts on wrist strap releases? Joel Turner's ShotIQ stuff on the elk collective was great for me.
Dan's hunted for a long time with a wrist strap - they certainly can be good! - TC
@@ElkShape i think I'm making the switch back. I started getting some unexpected hand/arm pain. The wrist strap alleviates it for now.
What part was the crazy part
Thanks for the Carter commercial, Where are the Stans? IMO the Stan Shootoff is one of the best, especially in heavy metal.
Make a video about how awesome it is. UA-cam is a free platform
Exactly the video I was looking for!
so glad it helped!
I wish you would've judged the quietness of each release as well.....
good suggestion for a test down the road thats more comprehensive
@@ElkShape I'd love to see it! I was about to buy a tension release not long ago until I heard the loud click it makes when it let's go. I want every advantage I can get since I'm not the best hunter lol
Carter Wise Choice for me
Evolution...
Why no index?
Maybe one day the silverback and the nock2it will be back in stock 😭
Nock 2 it was in stock yesterday!
WTH! I swear I looked yesterday
Yesterday 4 pm pacific time I got the email.... sold out now
Already sold out. Smh. I knew I should have signed up for the alert
not really helpful,
Do a vid with cris bee
Laces out down
The only problem I have with the reviews is that things like releases, bows etc. are all individually related. What is great for one person maybe crap to another! People just need to go in and try them for themselves! Explaining each one and perhaps what to look for ( the pros & cons) is the best way to help others! Just saying......
Should check out Stan xtinction2
word!
Picked up the Wise Choice last week and love it.
it's a good'n
Ive got a Carter Ember. Scott BackSpin. and a Truball 360.
The Truball 360 has developed an issue where it can go off at random without touching the trigger. Shame because its a nice crisp release.
So totally do an elk or bear hunt with Chris Bee!!!
Spring bear??
Heck yeah I’m sure Chris gets tired of those Michigan winters
Good video bro and yes I’m one that supports Chris B! I’ve never used a hinge release always used back strap release but I’d like to try one. Which one would y’all recommend me starting with?
I’m using a Spot Hogg whipper snapper, don’t dislike but never experienced any different except for a index trigger :) it’s a go for Chris!!!
Just bought the wise choice and I really like it. It is LOUD, LOUD, LOUD. Did you do anything to the release to quiet it up for hunting? Thanks and dig your vids
If Chester Bennington had a long lost brother it would be this guy.
What's Chris 🐝 got that you ain't got and your strong as shit I vote you for President peace bro love your content and your positivity you ever need place to stay in Lancaster PA you got one have good day bro!
B3 Ghost is my go to rn! #b3archery
word up!
hey my man, can you recommend a thumb release for the world's smallest hands? hands where even the chocolate lite is a tad big?
Collaboration with Chris
🐝🐝
Are you related to Andrew Schulz? You look just like him lol
Not a Chris bee special. Utraview
Easy there analytical AL.. look at the thumbnail - TC
You said your bow is set to 75% let off. I thought the new Mathews were only 85 or 80
Too simple has a shorter neck than the Wise Choice. The match for the Wise Choice without the enclosed finger is the First Choice.
How did you get your VXR 28 TO 80+ pounds
thank you
Welcome!