Bowyer Reviews Amazon Bow
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2022
- Shane uses his experience of building bows for multiple years to break down the aspects of Amazon's hottest traditional bow.
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Shane is a phenomenal bowyer. Kudos to him for giving an honest and positive review of such an affordable bow!
Thanks for the great video. That was my first bow and still love shooting it. Amazing value. Interesting to see a bowyer’s perspective
From what I researched so far, the Black Hunter is a awesome “Cheap” Bow, lefts face it when you can buy a bow with extra limbs for around $150, what’s not to like, heck at $75 a bow forget the extra limbs, just buy another bow! I can buy a Black Hunter for $75, send it to you to rebuild it, and have $300 in it, that is still less then any Takedown out there! Back in the 1980’s, we would have killed for The Black Hunter! Your honest assessment of the Black Hunter was as real as it can get, And I applaud you! As for your knowledge about Traditional Bow manufacturing, your outstanding! You understand the meaning of being consistent in manufacturing, many bowers do not, and consistently is Job#1! I thank you for being a outstanding Bow manufacturer, and innovative in the manufacturing process!
The best thing that this video can teach any aspiring archer is the value of saving up their money. Buying quality pays dividends. Most importantly it connects one with quality makers. I learnt more about take down recurves in this video than I have in 53yrs of shooting. Thank you Great Plains Bows.
Thanks for watching!
This is probably the most honest and thorough review I have watched. I was left really wanting that Swift but feeling like I would be satisfied starting out with the BH. I honestly feel like if the BH was a crappy bow, you would have told us that.
Just an fyi, the black hunter by junxing is also knocked off by other chinese streetside factories so you have to watch carefully what sellers you buy from for a real black hunter stick with junxing or the Obert branding for the real ones. 3 rivers, big Jims and lancaster sell the real ones as well and also carry a warranty whereas most amazon sellers and randon ebay sellers dont.
Is GLURAK brand a real one???
Chnarchery never sent me a confirmation email after i purchased a black hunter from them
The BH is a great starter bow I love it so much I upgraded the limbs from 40# to 60#. Great stuff I tell ya
You’re awesome! Thank you for these great video’s
Best review by far of this bow! Tx guys for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video thanks.
I got a couple of those bows 30#-50# with LH Risers that I reshaped to do some thumbdraw, right side shooting experiments. I was also impressed with there value.
Would love to see you customize one.
Nice video. I'd like to see more comparisons. Cheers from Alberta
Very Impressed with your honesty. Anyone looking for a a custom bow, you'd be the bloke to buy from!
Thank you for the feedback!
I have one. I upgraded to it from my Samick Sage funny enough. Now i love my Samick Sage. I killed a big Elk cow in Alberta with it. But, the Black Hunter i brought came with a second set of longbow limbs and cost me 110 euros (so about 117 dollars) which is a heck of a deal. I fitted upgraded "Grizzly" strings (same as my Samick) and both set limbs have been fantastic. However, next year I'll be getting my first custom bow. A lot of the confidence i have to buy a custom boy is because i brought this bow and shot the hell out of it. Nice video.
Beautiful bows you make✌
Great review. I picked up one for my wife and I was very surprised with how nice it is for $100
I love and mean absolutely love the Rio bravo that great plains puts out. Saving for another reflex deflex long bow
Thank you. It's great hearing that our bows are loved!
I really appreciate your videos. I know this level of bow is not really sales competition for your bows, but great that you give an honest review and recognize the value for the trad archer starting out. Love your bows by the way……someday!
Thank you. We appreciate the support!
Very informative review , thank you and .... I like the Swift
This bow has been reviewed hundreds of times but never by someone with this much bow building knowledge. I found it very interesting. That Swift Recurve looks amazing!
Great video! Good business idea to offer some mod services for the BH, there has to be thousands of them sold. I have one of the Creative XP's and it seems to be pretty fast. It has approximately 1/16 inch positive tiller. 51# @28", 57# @30". A nice backup bow.
I had a black widow with that style hand grip, real deep, it improved my shooting because it meant less fingers interfering with the shot, admittedly I used a bow sling which allowed me to keep an open hand after the shot.
Bought that same bow at 45# after they changed the design to square limb mounting surfaces. The fit is much better. Have not shot it much, but I wanted to point out the off side of the riser is flat. I think they do that to make silk screening the logo easier ... But what it does for me is allow the mounting of TruGlo or Apex round base sighting systems with 2 wood screws. I replaced the string immediately and just keep the supplied string as a back-up. So I'm experimenting with sights on a take-down recurve. For the money, this is a great experimental platform 😄
What is the string lenght for the BH recurve?
It'd be really cool to make a video showing people how to modify the bow. Liability aside, it would help young archers just starting out how they could make a cheap but decent bow even better.
Great idea! We'll do it
@@greatplainsbowdid you make the upgrade video yet? I just got the tachyon in 40# and 60# limbs.😊
@@greatplainsbownevermind, it finally showed in my algorithm
@@blade420playElitecan you post the video link in this comment thread. Thanks.
I was going to buy the black hunter. But now I want the Swift.
Its probably in your best interest to recommend a $75 starter bow.... it gets more future customers into the market for a high end bow down the road.
Awesome review
Same thing I was thinking than if you wanted sumthng better I would b leaning towards the person who recommended me a good starter bow
The MandarinDuck Black Hunter is centershooted and haves an ok finish both on the raiser and the limbs. But it is not 75dollars, more like 200 with dampers and hair for the arrowrest. It may be that there is a lot of companies making their own wersion of the black hunter bow.
Additional comment: The bow you show in the intro is the one I have with the square bottom limbs. I believe it is made by Weihai Qunying Outdoor Co., Ltd.
The one you are reworking is made by Junxing - the ones with the multi-angle bottom of the limbs. They are two different bows.
The Weihai bow has excellent fit and finish, well mine does anyway... They can both be seen as labeled "Black Hunter" in their respective company listings ... If I were going to import one, it would be the Weihai bow 😊
The black hunter longbow I have is cut one eighths before center... I had to build up my plate sight window for center shot.. My bow shoots like a dream and is even tiller . If I had to shoot only one bow I believe to be the black hunter. Accuracy for such a small riser is incredible . My string came with is a dynema d 97. Limbs are straight and string is centered. I must of picked up a good one. I've seen other black hunter bows with negative tiller also limbs were off in relation to string.. I have the most fun with my black hunter with backyard shooting and my deer hunting bow. The grip fits me very well!!!!!
Hey that's awesome!
Maybe reason mine is before center shot, I elevated my arrow shelf one quarter of an inch and then put my side plate on. The black hunter riser is scooped out at the sight window. If you don't elevate the rest and shoot right off the shelf I can see it going past center as there is a hump between the window and shelf that juts out . Try and put one quarter of an inch piece of leather to elevate the arrow from the shelf also let me know your findings? Thank you
@@bradlauber9097 will do!
I have bows that I would not take into the woods, but this bow is an exception. I have never harvested a deer over 25yds so as long as this bow gives reasonable performance at that distance, who cares?
Bought the long bow and recurve version of this since they are so inexpensive and like them. Any way... they have a Black Hunter TRIANGLE 58" bow at 30-40LB's... that is interesting... any way thanks for the review. Note... I shoot crossbows and had a lot of extra crossbow limb tip covers and they fit perfect on the recurve so I added them to protect the limb tips... and it strings better for me with them on... later...
Very good info! Thanks!
Have them both put sight bushings for quiver on black hunter
Asdw archery huh...thanx im gonna order 2 for me an my son
I bought my first bow a pse Promax 62. Finding replacement limbs to go up in draw weight, isn’t easy. So in the $300 range, which bow is the best for finding replacement and upgrade limbs and parts? I want to buy a bow, but one I can upgrade easily as I get stronger. Thanks
Thanks for the review.
Can you put a fast flight string on this bow?
Love your bows by the way! Love my swift and model B!!!
Yeah you should be able to use fast flight. Thanks for watching!
Thanks. So I understand the bow should support fast flight but it may be not the best. So what kind of string would you recommend exactly?
Thanks again!!
@@fabienniel5576 about the best string combination you could do for a bh would be a string made up of half dynaflight 97 and half b50 material
I’ve seen the black hunter come in different colors but it seems like people only get the mandarin duck. Are the ones in different colors knock off versions?
Those bows are all very similar but they are not the same. There is a 58 inch and a 60 inch version of the recurve. The 60 inch recurve version from Lancaster Archery, the "Galaxy Ember" shoots, sounds, and looks better.
Very good information. We'll check it out
I have sinoart branded reflex deflex version. the only real complaint is that draw weight is about 45 lbs instead of 40. But at my length it comes in at about 40 lbs so it worked out for me.
We’ve seen them 6lbs off at most. Glad it worked out for you.
When asking about the boastringer, I’m talking about the black post. In your video that you string your bows with quickly if you have any plans or instructions on that.
No we don't but it literally is what you see there. Just a couple pieces welded together with pipe welded on for the pegs. Super simple
We’re in the process of putting together a video for instructions on building a less expensive version out of construction lumber. That video will have the dimensions listed, which is modeled after our metal one.
@@greatplainsbow Looking forward to that
That sounds great for the next video on the black hunter. After seeing what you did with that old remolded bow few videos back. I'd love to see how you would go about this black hunter!
Actually we did go ahead and do all the things we talked about to it, but we didn't film it. If there's enough interest we will buy another one and film the rework
@@greatplainsbow I think that would be pretty cool. You should post it on the archery subreddit as well.
@@greatplainsbow I really appreciate your informative review and would love another video on the rework. Thanks!
Do some vintage bow reviews, thanks
Good idea! Do you have one in mind?
How much do you sell that Swift for? I'm actually shopping for a new bow. I'd buy a Black Hunter reworked by you, if you ever decide to go that way.
If ya go to my website I've got all the prices there. I've got some great Swift T/Ds in stock right now. They are a lower price than a custom Swift T/D. As far as the black hunters go I do rework new ones for customers
There's hundreds of factories making that style of bow, and many other types of recurves,
Then there's hundreds of other factories making many other styles of compound bows.
They are all great looking bows it's just that where they fall short is in the poundage.
So to get a 55# bow order a 60#, to get a 50# bow order a 55#,....I ordered a 50# and got a 45# Recurve.
A few years back I ordered 2 55# compound bows kind of like 80's era bows,....had tear drop cables so you could change out your own string's.
Well they were different brands but the same bows both were way off 55# I sent them back and bought 12 Fred Bear compound bows dirt cheap on Ebay,....and their all excellent except the one from New Jersey that sent me a kids bow but I turned that around on him I added a longer loop and its 48 pounds and that's enough to get the job done.
So I got my recurve about 4 days ago I shot 2 arrows through it,.... because while sharpening broadheads one got me on my finger.
So I ordered a 50# and got a 45#
My recurve is as pretty as my 83# Bob Morrison Bow.
My China Bow look's Like a clone of your Swift except prettier.
I bought a China Recurve because replacement limbs on a Bob Morrison bow were $450 for used ones and Like $850 for new ones many years ago.
The 2 chinese Compounds I just bought are state of the art I could barely pull them back,. I thought they were the same bow,...but their slightly different one was the Mirage $159.00 0ne was Fossil $129.00,....one has a bigger cam,.... but I think their both great bows no regrets.
But the cheaper one had more stuff.
Cost? They pay workers .08 a day!
What causes the black hunter to shoot left?
I've been shooting the black hunter for a year now and I notice my arrows group comfortably just to the left. If I get perfect center shots my arrow flight is erratic and when it shoots about 5" left the arrows go straight so I know it's not a form issue.
What causes that is the side plate on the riser not being cut deep enough
@@greatplainsbow Wouldn't archer's paradox correct that because the string is down center? Also when I measured mine it was 0.1" cut past center.
@@Bowfella yes you could possibly correct that with paradox, but you'll need to play around with arrow spine stiffness then. However if the perfect spined arrow for your bow weight does not correct that it means its either your release or that the side plate isn't cut deep enough
I found an old Shakespeare for 40 bucks, 30 pound draw I have a longer than 28 inch draw. Loss to be in good shape straight, recurve. Was that a good bow?
Looks not loss
hey, i was originally going for the black hunter but after watching your video i'm considering the swift.. could you perhaps provide me with a link to a website to buy it or its full name?
Yep. Here's a one piece that's in stock www.greatplainsbow.com/product-page/sr-swift-recurve-58-42-rh-17323
Did you spend 850.00 more for the swift?
@@charlesdudley5800 no, i have a black hunter longbow now. way cheaper and works fine for me.
How did you make your static bow stringer ? My recurves are hard to string because of the recurve limb ends thanks
We'll be coming out with a diy bow stringer build video in the next couple weeks also I'll send you a link of one you can purchase on our website www.greatplainsbow.com/product-page/quick-hitch-bow-stringer
When I ask about the bowstringer, I was talking about the black post in your video that you string your bows with
@@lloyd2654 that's just a couple pieces of steel welded together with pegs welded on the side and the pegs are wrapped in leather
Hi Chane i see that the Black hunter is not center is this so?
He said that in the video.
have #40 r/d blk hunter... like it!!!
Like most everything that’s out of China it’s also made with high tech and slave labor, clones of the best bows made in the US by dedicated bowyers. We’ve seen a few that the limb inserts popped out, before even stringing them up! And two with the inserts terribly out of line. They don’t get hit by tariffs and so this really hurts our bowyers and archery companies. BUY US MADE :)
Man you just helped me figure out why I have to move over to the right to hit my target. It’s not center shot. I just watched your video on making the black hunter a center shot.
Great! Happy shooting!
Just made mine centreshot today
@@robertcrowther6134 awesome! Are you able to see a difference?
@@greatplainsbow Definitely brought it over . Now to follow you with the rest of the up grade
@@robertcrowther6134 Hey that's so great, Robert! Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback!
I have this bow and I’ve had it 2 years. This year it decided to blow the lower limb. Bad thing was, the lower limb exploded during the draw while I had a 190” 12pt buck at 10 yards. Of all times for the lower limb to explode. I’ll never use another “laminated” limb recurve again. Solid fiberglass limbs or solid wood. Laminated limbs have areas of failure.
You'll get far more failures from selfbows than laminated. It's not even close to comparable. As far as solid glass bows they probably won't break very easily, but the performance is terrible from them
@@greatplainsbow I just want a recurve that performs great, that has a low chance of blowing up on me. Having a state record crushing buck at 10yrds and having the bottom limb explode was heart wrenching. I never wanted to quit something ever in my life like I wanted to quit using trad equipment that day. What brand/bow would you consider to be the best/most reliable, that has had the least issues like this?
@@Mulching_man well it is frustrating when bows break, but they all do it from time to time. Compound bows break as well, however what you experienced was an extremely rare event. The black hunter bows are very cheap and should be used as an introduction to traditional archery. If you buy a laminated bow from a company with a great reputation it's highly doubtful you will experience that again. When I say its extremely rare what happened to you I mean that you were full draw on a record buck and it failed. The odds of that happening again are very low, but also if a laminated bow isn't treated right or overdrawn or too light of arrows it can happen from abuse of the bow
@@greatplainsbow I was not at full draw. It broke during the draw back. I was maybe 1/2 draw when it exploded. If ya like give me a call. Eight won too nine for six oh seven seven fore
@@Mulching_man sure thing. Give me a bit here and I will
I had a black sheep nova thats basically a samick sage clone. Well they shoot a arrow and do work and aint bad bows at all. But compared to my model b it feels soul less. I want something that feels like it has a little soul to it something thats beautiful and will age well.
Did you end up selling it?
@@greatplainsbow yes sir i did
We're do you get it ?
You can buy the black hunters or rebranded black hunters pretty much anywhere online. Amazon has em and Ebay also or lots of sporting goods stores carry em
Archers!
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Enjoy!
Link to amqzon would have been helpful
Super easy to find. It's a well known bow
Why are all your bows out of stock?
Wouldn’t correct spines shafts wrap around the riser so you don’t have to hold 8inches to the left your useing 400’s
Maybe 500’s would have been better suited
No. Spine doesn't quite work that way. You could possibly move it over a bit using weaker spines, but then your spine would be too weak for the draw weight and you'd have too much paradox. We went ahead and filed that bow past center, making it a center shot bow, and it instantly corrected the problem.
Question, are you giving away a Mathews compound bow for a Christmas giveaway?
You must have heard wrong. It’s a Ten Point crossbow we’re giving away 😂
@@greatplainsbow did you send me a photo of a compound bow or is that some scammer.
That definitely wasn’t us.
When I first handled one of those I thought they had ripped off a Great Plains design, I see that it’s more likely a shorter Palmer ripoff.
Probably a little of both honestly. I'm sure they looked around a bit before they designed it
Actually, original name is Junxing F171.
Ok
Chnarchery never sent me a confirmation email when i purchased a black hunter....
Did you get the bow?
@@greatplainsbow I just ordered today but haven't received any confirmation email and they haven't returned my emails to them yet, that's suspicious.
I haven't gotten the bow no and even ordered extra recurve limbs along side the main bow which has the longbow limbs.
Been wondering if their customer reviews are fake....idk
It's suspicious because as i'm ordering it told me that a confirmation email was sent....it wasn't...i made sure the email address was correct too.
@@greatplainsbow I found Lisa's Facebook and such (the owner) and the address of the company on the website matches up with the geographical location in Kowloon.
I hope she resolves this but it really takes away my confidence in anything other than American made at this point smh
@@greatplainsbow I just don't get why she would want to destroy her business over 160$
Which is what i payed essentially.
I'll keep you posted on the results....there really isn't much of an option to cancel the order otherwise than reaching out and she won't answer anyways so...time will tell i suppose.
@@FutureRobinHood yeah. Hopefully it turns out
You may find the black community is quiet as the swift if you put padding and strike plate on the shelf inside window string silencers and a properly tuned arrow.What you have there is not really a fair comparison
Good thoughts
It's not a great plains with your awesome grip.I had a Black Hawk swift. The phenolic separated in the riser. 1000 dollar bow. Sent it for repair. Came apart again..still love Great plains.
Oh man! Sorry about that! Send it to us we'll take care of you
I once bought a Samick Sage out of curiosity. It was blocky, ugly, the riser was poorly built and split out on me around the quiver bracket, and the bottom limb was twisted which I tried to fix but it would not stay. I screwed around getting replacement bows but the next 2 had their own problems. I could not get one without a twisted limb. I finally got one I could shoot and it was in decent shape so I set it up and gave it to my niece and her husband. I told everyone who would listen not to buy them. I bought a 30 pound Black Hunter to use as a teaching bow for friends and it is what I call "rough" but it is a better bow than that junky Sage. I'll stay with my customs and high-end bows thanks.
25 bucks a limb and 25 bucks for the riser sound strange to say
good review, but based on the info you provided, i can't see how you can say that i "...would not waste [my] money buying one of these ..." when this $75 bow needs approx. $225-250 worth of work?! yikes! see @ 15:08-ff
Yeah good point. I should have clarified that better. Those are just the things I'd change on it as a bowyer. Out of the box it's a fantastic starter bow for the money
Good review. Bottom line to me, even though it is only 75 bucks, is that your 75 bucks is funding the enemy of our country, china. In short always from an American bowyer. You can buy a used American bowyer vintage recurve for about the same amount if you look around.
I owed 2 BH recurve and long. Should mention its ok 4the money. But, the riser is a low Weight cheap wood, no ability to absorb vibrations.the limbs are the same staff cheap made and too heavy mass to power relation
I'd say just avoid anything amazon out of principle, get yourself something nice, it's a weapon of precision and details matter also so do keeping jobs in the US
I'd rather spend more money and get a Bear or Damon Howatt.
“Much quieter”
Has cat whiskers and the black hunter doesn’t
Can’t trust the video after that
You're right. We should have put silencers on the black hunter. Sorry bout that
after many tests, the black "phenomen" is not so great
great looking but for precision and confort, not so performing...
Peccato non capisco un cazzo grazie lo stesso
Hey no worries. Outside of my field of expertise I'm pretty much illiterate
From my perspective, I can't think of one good thing about buying a bow like this. Not trying to berate people for buying these chinese wonders, just felt like weighing in. One of the major things trade with China has accomplished is it has hollowed out the American economy: the trade imbalance has been staggering and devastating. It's horrible for the environment and energy consumption as raw materials go back and forth a ridiculous amount of times. As to your question Shane: how can they do it for 75 bucks...I would bet the biggest sucker in world history, ths U.S. taxpayer, is probably subsidizing the whole operation...again, to the ultimate desolation of the American economy. Politicians in the past have made agriegious trade deals/treaties with China, mostly to garner backdoor funding to their campaigns and various other nefarious personal benefits to said politicians. Many perfectly good American businesses have gone under because of the new global system and it's unsustainable models. I could go on all day and night. If people really wanted to know, which most don't, they could know...they want a "deal"...fine, but there is always a cost. A bow like Shane builds, or hundreds of other great custom bow making businesses offer are superior in every way, but the most important things are always intangible because many people (we) prefer it that way.
This is why never shop on amazon for a bow. If i order from the campany i use and placed an order for a black hunter, thats excacly what i would get. And why? Because these a rip off mass produced, that isnt a black hunter, it just looks like one. And yes indeed there would be differences, wood probably, certainly the string that comes with it, and youre not getting a real black hunter obviously. Samick has same issue's, my friend has a "Samick sage" yet his doesnt even have the Samick sage logo on his, mine does. Why people buy bows off amazon is beyond me, the one at the store i use is 125 i believe, why? Because its a real Black Hunter, not a rip off. And those saying "yer but materials the same" maybe, but its how the wood is treated before manufacture. Big difference, im only learning archery and i know this, thus i only use a reputable company that sells original bows, not knock offs.
Lots of videos that say that the Black Hunter is junk, hence the $75 price point. You shouldn't be promoting junk like that, someone might spend their hard earned money and end up with a junk bow. You must have got that for free! Lol
The black hunter has it's place. A lot of people can't afford a high end bow when they are starting out in traditional archery. They are plenty good enough to see if you enjoy the sport and then you can upgrade. It's just common sense. Think about it
I'm not sure why a high end bow company in the USA would take the time to compare their bows to a foreign made $75 bow off Amazon. There's your sign.
Think about it a bit
I thought that this was a great idea for a video. I have a Black Hunter that I bought to try archery out. The bow works really well but I wonder if I am missing much by not having a 'high end' bow. This helped me to answer that question. It also gave me reassurance that I didn't waste my money or any of my time whilst practicing. I can use the cheaper bow while saving for something more exotic. I appreciate that different people have different perspective though.
Way too many cuts. Makes me uncomfortable watching it
could it be possible to short break down how to make it center shot? just where to take messurements and how to file it down the right way? would be great, got that bow myself and im really fine with it, but i also got the feeling it fires a bit to the side.
Sure. We'll make a video about that
Why not just buy a MandarinDuck blackhunter, they are allready center shot. It is possible they have more layers laminated together and haves a stronger raiser. If you file it down it may brake,then you have to buy one more for 75.