A key piece of missing information is: What depth is it capable of reaching? Answer for the people that wont go to the website: 100 Meters. But shipped with a 25M tether (longer is sold separately).
My big wonder is how it reacts when not moving. Is it going to Float? Sink? Pitch up or down? If I am exploring ideally I want to be able to sit and observe, not have to circle over and over to catch a 1 second view of something at a time. Would hope there is attachable/removable weights to adjust it's buoyancy to the environment you intend to use it in. With and added bonus if it has a way off shifting some weight forward or backward to control pitch up or down while not under propulsion (so I could say look down, or up at something) Don't get me wrong though, regardless it's still neato, and glad these guys are doing what they are doing.
There is a hold depth function and a hold heading function on the current 2.8 OpenROV. You need to get the IMU module for it to work. You can tilt the camera up and down. The controls allow you to go foreward, back, yaw left, yaw right, descend vertically, ascend vertically. And it has removable weights too. I'm not sure about the Trident as the specs aren't fully released, but it should be similar.
This is good information that needs to be known with this device. This could greatly help rescue divers when they have to check out shipwrecks that capsized/sinked and may still have survivors on board as this ROV can allow them to explore tighter area's than the divers can travel through.
how could we contact him about some questions we may have. would also like to talk to tested about a project we are working on. may make an interesting video.
I don't know if this would work due to light refraction and stuff but couldn't you use a ir transmitter to send short coads such as directions and the drone could send pics back
If you are doing fpv, could you put two cameras for stereo vision to help with depth perception issues? It may cost more, but there might be a market for it.
They weren't featuring a product, they were interviewing a guy. Norm mentioned at the end of the video that'd he'd like to actually demo it on the channel.
Drones are always pilotless. A remotely operated vehicle is an ROV by class, broken down into things like UAV/UAS and UGV/UGS. A drone would be something completely antonymous that is programmed to do a task, and needs no human interaction to accomplish said task (outside of say repairs or updates,etc). The term "drone" is being used as a catch-all because something like "Unmanned aerial vehicle" or "quadcopter" or "remote-operated vehicle" doesn't have the sexiness or mystique that sounds good in the media.
donthaveaname How are you planning to do that without a video feed? Btw I`m not saying a battery is nonsense. There should be one for emergency or on board video processing. But I think that It`d be nice to have the extra power for whizzing around and having the extra time. Both battery powered and cable powered models would have their uses...
Tether moving enough power to actually run the whole thing would need to be much bulkier. It get away with being so small by only carrying enough power for the data transmission.One key thing about tether is, that since it has to be long depending on the dive depth on the order of hundreds of meters long, it has to be as thin and light as possible. Otherwise the tether itself becomes a transportation problem. You would need big reels and winches to handle it.
***** Good point as they are looking for a way to make it independent of wires by making a overwater receiver. But the wire doesn`t even need to carry that much current through it... Also the cable is central buoyant as he says the ROW wouldn`t need much power to carry it along with itself.
The reason power isn't supplied through the tether is; drag from the larger cable, voltage drop on long tethers, the motors use much larger amounts of current underwater, the 6x LiFePO4 cells last for up to 4 hrs and have no problem delivering 20A each. Delivering 20A over 100m without voltage drop would require a massive cable. If your tether is severed you lose control and video stream from the OpenROV and it powers down too. That's why it's best to have the ROV slightly positively buoyant, so it will eventually float to the surface. I have a modified 2.7 OpenROV at work. It is an awesome robot.
ordered the neutrally buoyant umbilical from openrov.. they didn't metric very well so I got a few meters less than what I ordered XD didn't bother me too much as I ordered 30 meters and I did email em to just make them aware of the thing.. wish they had a "slightly more than buoyant in saltwater" option.. neutral can still get you in trouble.. a shitload less than just twisted copper wire.. but still.. had my openrov 2.8 stuck about a meter underwater for 10 minutes due to regular twisted pair copper wire umbilical sink and hook itself onto jagged rocks.. wasn't worried about it leaking.. only that I had to dive after it..
I did a Senior project in High school doing essentially that: attaching a ROV to a buey to control it wirelessly. had plans for a camera, but I unfortunately broke the camera.
Why does everything have to be called a drone after the media started that? Before popular camera quads, the RC community never used that word to describe a multi rotor. Now it is used for anything after the media began making segments on "spying drones", when in the end it's just people taking cool videos from the air with their quads. It's like if you were playing videogames on your Xbox, and your mom comes in and says "having fun on your Nintendo box?" No, mom. It's an Xbox. But the word Nintendo being associated with military grade hellfire launching autonomous planes.
Very impressive piece of technology. It would be a nice toy to have for a camera guy. Of course the downside is the same story as any fisherman experiences. When its sitting on the bottom of a lake and snagged on an old dead tree branch, you're not getting it back. And there are loads of things to snag on at the bottoms of lakes and rivers. So if it gets stuck, you've lost it.
God damn I thought of towing a buoy and using that as a way to make R/C subs for a while...kinda sucks never having the money to build a sub. Glad to see someone's making something ready to dive. Maybe they'll put out a cheaper version.
ROVs are currently in a very small community, I've been building one in my engineering class, and much of the stuff I had to learn on my own. Don't try looking for a solution though, because as soon as drones were mainstream most of the fun was sucked out of them by the faa, and we still need innovators to improve the technology.
I have had an idea of how to make an underwater and flying drone rov combo but hadn't been able to figure out how to go down deep and still maintain control.so if they have that all set I need to get a hold of this company and somehow pitch my design.if we can get it light enough and with my rotating propeller design you can definitely integrate flying and diving!!!
Whoa, a video that claims to be about a robot but is actually an 8 min long interview with some dude with almost zero footage of the robot itself. Nice.
What did you think the interview was about? How is that distinct from what the title and description of the video are literally saying rather than what you imagined it saying?
We have that same ROV! We did an ocean test with sharks to see how they responded to it. Check out the video here ua-cam.com/video/FFmu1PN6-Ck/v-deo.html
Might be a good idea to create a channel with these videos similar to what RedBull has done. That said I'm off to see if I can find some of these video's. Feel free to post links to the related video's you've found below. Thanks.
I think a lot of these kickstarter things are really cool. But the silicon valley Infomercial speak of the craters really annoys me to the point where I end up hating the whole project. Typical sentence goes something like W"e are really excited about our breakthrough leap in (whatever) for an incredible game changing user experience."
The main problem with all these Drones (Especially the Powerray Drone) is the Motor in the middle of the unit that makes it dive and rise.There is no debris guard,so when your filming on the bottom your sucking stuff through the motor and guess what.It messes up the Motor.i had my Powerray for 1 day before i had this problem.
Build thousands of them, stick them everywhere in the oceans .Put solar panels on the transmitter base to charge . See how long it could send video via phone and be controlled by remote by us! Viewed live !
Nearly everything I've seen underwater has been pretty chilled out and just ignores my ROV. I have had other underwater equipment at work that has been mauled by a crocodile or attached by a shark. There is a risk of a large sea creature eating anything you put in or near the water.
Interesting but I worked with the real things since 1980. This looks like some of the first generation stuff we were using. You really need lateral thrusters to really control vehicles underwater still it is an inexpensive way to get into ROV's.
I was about to roast this guy foir his;"uhm", and "uh" during this interview. But this guy is really passionate about his creation, to the same degree that I am for e-bikes, so Iway amway otnay oinggay otay ebay atthay assholeway. I hope they succeed:)
This guy seems to really like what he is doing!
Agreed, really quite refreshing.
I really hope you guys follow up with a shop visit with these guys, because I would love to see their workshop!
YES PLEASE
I love how passionate this guy is, you can really tell he enjoys his product dearly!
this guy sounds so passionate about this, its great to see
A key piece of missing information is: What depth is it capable of reaching?
Answer for the people that wont go to the website: 100 Meters. But shipped with a 25M tether (longer is sold separately).
My big wonder is how it reacts when not moving. Is it going to Float? Sink? Pitch up or down? If I am exploring ideally I want to be able to sit and observe, not have to circle over and over to catch a 1 second view of something at a time. Would hope there is attachable/removable weights to adjust it's buoyancy to the environment you intend to use it in. With and added bonus if it has a way off shifting some weight forward or backward to control pitch up or down while not under propulsion (so I could say look down, or up at something)
Don't get me wrong though, regardless it's still neato, and glad these guys are doing what they are doing.
There is a hold depth function and a hold heading function on the current 2.8 OpenROV. You need to get the IMU module for it to work. You can tilt the camera up and down. The controls allow you to go foreward, back, yaw left, yaw right, descend vertically, ascend vertically. And it has removable weights too. I'm not sure about the Trident as the specs aren't fully released, but it should be similar.
This is good information that needs to be known with this device. This could greatly help rescue divers when they have to check out shipwrecks that capsized/sinked and may still have survivors on board as this ROV can allow them to explore tighter area's than the divers can travel through.
it's really awesome seeing someone that is so extremely passionate and excited about what they're working on!
That's amazing.
And I think Norm is getting better at interviewing people by the day, lol
It's really cool to see someone that excited about their product.
It's so awesome seeing people this exited about what they're doing :D Cool video!
man this guy seems so passionate, props!
I want a video with these guys and this drone sooo bad.
That is a man who really and truly loves what he does.
I'm so impressed with how far Eric and his team have come. I'm still upset that I missed the extra special price Trident kickstarter by 5 minutes.
Norm is a great host. He has a bright future in store!
how could we contact him about some questions we may have. would also like to talk to tested about a project we are working on. may make an interesting video.
You can contact him on the forum on their site openrov.com he & the co founder both communicate often on the forum. Great guys doing a awesome job. 😀
That looks awesome!! But I want to check the footage first tho
That's so cool, great job guys
"...because you can backpack with this." Every backpacker looks at each other and says, "Nope!"
I don't know if this would work due to light refraction and stuff but couldn't you use a ir transmitter to send short coads such as directions and the drone could send pics back
What a great guy.
This guy really likes what he does!
this is a dream come true
If you are doing fpv, could you put two cameras for stereo vision to help with depth perception issues? It may cost more, but there might be a market for it.
Yes you can on the openROV kit models. Quite a few guys have already done it & we're using Oculus VR goggles. Visit their forum on their website
Why would you feature a product, and then not show an example of its main purpose, taking video underwater?
You mean, like half their demo videos? "Man, this thing sure does *neat feature* really well!" Followed by never showing it doing that thing.
You realize this is at a fair, right? And that Norm + crew was probably just walking around looking for cool stuff to feature?
They weren't featuring a product, they were interviewing a guy. Norm mentioned at the end of the video that'd he'd like to actually demo it on the channel.
how is it 2018 and this thing is still on preorder
2010 - 2011 - 2012 - 2013 -2014 -2015 -2016: this is their 7th year Norm...
*****
I'm talking about what he said in the beginning, he said it was their 6th year at the convention. But 7th time = 7th year in that context.
*****
Yeah I figured you confused it with that moment :)
STOP CALLING THEM DRONES. It's an ROV. That's why it's called an ROV.
Agree
Definition of "drone": "any unmanned aircraft or ship that is guided remotely"
thing that you call drone is in fact a quadropter drone, so this is ROV drone
Drones are always pilotless. A remotely operated vehicle is an ROV by class, broken down into things like UAV/UAS and UGV/UGS. A drone would be something completely antonymous that is programmed to do a task, and needs no human interaction to accomplish said task (outside of say repairs or updates,etc).
The term "drone" is being used as a catch-all because something like "Unmanned aerial vehicle" or "quadcopter" or "remote-operated vehicle" doesn't have the sexiness or mystique that sounds good in the media.
It is a drone, by the very definition of drones this is one of them.
Are norm's interviews the most excited interviews ever seen? I mean, you never see both the subject and the interviewer so into it.
This is pretty cool!
Very cool ROV.
Too much trouble to get an action shot of the thing doing what it's made to do?
non-functioning prototype...
Had one in the pool moving very fast!
The definitely had it in the pool. Don't know what video you watched.
Why don`t they supply voltage through the tether? 4 hours of battery life is wonderful dough...
if the tether is severed you would be able to get back with a battery. not with a tether powered one
donthaveaname How are you planning to do that without a video feed? Btw I`m not saying a battery is nonsense. There should be one for emergency or on board video processing. But I think that It`d be nice to have the extra power for whizzing around and having the extra time. Both battery powered and cable powered models would have their uses...
Tether moving enough power to actually run the whole thing would need to be much bulkier. It get away with being so small by only carrying enough power for the data transmission.One key thing about tether is, that since it has to be long depending on the dive depth on the order of hundreds of meters long, it has to be as thin and light as possible. Otherwise the tether itself becomes a transportation problem. You would need big reels and winches to handle it.
***** Good point as they are looking for a way to make it independent of wires by making a overwater receiver. But the wire doesn`t even need to carry that much current through it... Also the cable is central buoyant as he says the ROW wouldn`t need much power to carry it along with itself.
The reason power isn't supplied through the tether is; drag from the larger cable, voltage drop on long tethers, the motors use much larger amounts of current underwater, the 6x LiFePO4 cells last for up to 4 hrs and have no problem delivering 20A each. Delivering 20A over 100m without voltage drop would require a massive cable. If your tether is severed you lose control and video stream from the OpenROV and it powers down too. That's why it's best to have the ROV slightly positively buoyant, so it will eventually float to the surface. I have a modified 2.7 OpenROV at work. It is an awesome robot.
Do they record any of the drones expeditions? I'd love to see one.
Did you guys go Saturday and or Sunday?
This is really cool
Great video.
ordered the neutrally buoyant umbilical from openrov.. they didn't metric very well so I got a few meters less than what I ordered XD didn't bother me too much as I ordered 30 meters and I did email em to just make them aware of the thing.. wish they had a "slightly more than buoyant in saltwater" option.. neutral can still get you in trouble.. a shitload less than just twisted copper wire.. but still.. had my openrov 2.8 stuck about a meter underwater for 10 minutes due to regular twisted pair copper wire umbilical sink and hook itself onto jagged rocks.. wasn't worried about it leaking.. only that I had to dive after it..
the lock ness monster will never be out of frame again. lol
I did a Senior project in High school doing essentially that: attaching a ROV to a buey to control it wirelessly. had plans for a camera, but I unfortunately broke the camera.
Tested should go with them to the Lake Tahoe shipwreck! It would make a great video.
I actually live near Lake Tahoe and was just thinking of how cool it could be to explore tahoe and look for sunken ships
Why does everything have to be called a drone after the media started that? Before popular camera quads, the RC community never used that word to describe a multi rotor. Now it is used for anything after the media began making segments on "spying drones", when in the end it's just people taking cool videos from the air with their quads.
It's like if you were playing videogames on your Xbox, and your mom comes in and says "having fun on your Nintendo box?" No, mom. It's an Xbox. But the word Nintendo being associated with military grade hellfire launching autonomous planes.
So you're saying the distinction between drone to quad is the same as from Nintendo to Xbox.
Full scale high performance multi million dollar aircraft that can fly for thousands of miles vs a small couple hundred dollar toy.
Sure.
Wow! Who builds those things??!
The big dude walking in the back ground lol
passionate dude
3:17 Lots of ballast!
Very impressive piece of technology.
It would be a nice toy to have for a camera guy.
Of course the downside is the same story as any fisherman experiences.
When its sitting on the bottom of a lake and snagged on an old dead tree branch, you're not getting it back.
And there are loads of things to snag on at the bottoms of lakes and rivers.
So if it gets stuck, you've lost it.
Guys a genius
God damn I thought of towing a buoy and using that as a way to make R/C subs for a while...kinda sucks never having the money to build a sub. Glad to see someone's making something ready to dive. Maybe they'll put out a cheaper version.
So cool!
Little weary that I can't find much footage taken with the drone itself on the Internet.
ROVs are currently in a very small community, I've been building one in my engineering class, and much of the stuff I had to learn on my own. Don't try looking for a solution though, because as soon as drones were mainstream most of the fun was sucked out of them by the faa, and we still need innovators to improve the technology.
I have had an idea of how to make an underwater and flying drone rov combo but hadn't been able to figure out how to go down deep and still maintain control.so if they have that all set I need to get a hold of this company and somehow pitch my design.if we can get it light enough and with my rotating propeller design you can definitely integrate flying and diving!!!
How does it control pitch and roll?
4 hours, thats impressive, now to move that time scale to air drones
* Technically their 7th year
Beat me to it. That's what I was going to say
that is really cool
Gosh damn it! I could have met with norm last week end! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! DX
Im sold. I dont know what im going to use it for, but Im going to get one...
yeah I want to see some footage from unit
There is a giant blue robot monster in the background swinging its arms around and they are interviewing a man with a underwater drone...
Whoa, a video that claims to be about a robot but is actually an 8 min long interview with some dude with almost zero footage of the robot itself. Nice.
Waaaah. Mommmmy! The free thing on the internet wasn't exactly what I wanted :'(
What did you think the interview was about? How is that distinct from what the title and description of the video are literally saying rather than what you imagined it saying?
aww did the free video not cater exactly to what you want? :'(
We have that same ROV! We did an ocean test with sharks to see how they responded to it. Check out the video here ua-cam.com/video/FFmu1PN6-Ck/v-deo.html
Might be a good idea to create a channel with these videos similar to what RedBull has done. That said I'm off to see if I can find some of these video's. Feel free to post links to the related video's you've found below. Thanks.
how deep can it go before pressure crushes it
Damn that water is dirty
They were probably demonstrating the cameras visibility in murky water
I guess it is to resemble real lakes so you can see what the picture quality would be like in real world usage.
Would love to see 1080p from this of footage of the Titanic
Awesome
Can you take photos with that thing?
I think a lot of these kickstarter things are really cool. But the silicon valley Infomercial speak of the craters really annoys me to the point where I end up hating the whole project. Typical sentence goes something like W"e are really excited about our breakthrough leap in (whatever) for an incredible game changing user experience."
Ya that is marketing bullshit 101, sadly they all repeat that nonsense because it does work on unsuspecting crowds.
It worked on me, sadly I don't have the money for one or any interesting bodies of water to explore with it nearby.
Yeah, the fact that every person trying to pitch a product now sounds like a wanna be TED talk drives me up the wall.
That is cool.
something to consider.maybe have a solar power at the buoy.who knows?
why is is called the same name as the UK nuclear detererent
The main problem with all these Drones (Especially the Powerray Drone) is the Motor in the middle of the unit that makes it dive and rise.There is no debris guard,so when your filming on the bottom your sucking stuff through the motor and guess what.It messes up the Motor.i had my Powerray for 1 day before i had this problem.
Build thousands of them, stick them everywhere in the oceans .Put solar panels on the transmitter base to charge . See how long it could send video via phone and be controlled by remote by us! Viewed live !
4:11 that kilogram force is called a Newton
looks exactly like an airfoil. aero stuff totally integrated.
So RC submarines are drones too now?
Starts @ 2:50 .
Hope you can control it with an iPad also hope it's user friendly
How deep can these ROV's go...?
nice!
Click at 5:39 if you want to see a spastic robot dance!
No footage?
honestly u was expecting a quadracopter that goes on both land and sea
one question: shut up and take my money
any risks of a large sea creature eating this thing? i mean up in the air, drones only have trees as enemies
there is a great video of a giant eagle attacking a drone that flies toward its nest
Nearly everything I've seen underwater has been pretty chilled out and just ignores my ROV. I have had other underwater equipment at work that has been mauled by a crocodile or attached by a shark. There is a risk of a large sea creature eating anything you put in or near the water.
why do you need a drone as fast as michael phelps when you can just use michael phelps
Because Michael Phelps can't hold his breath for 4 hours. ;)
It's a well known fact that Michael Phelps can indeed hold his breath for 4 hours. You're crazy, David
I think Michael Phelps costs more than 1100 $.
What is the real value?
anybody else see the giant blue monster thing in the background
Apparently they don't do anything underwater, at all, anymore. WTF?
wait.... aren't "underwater drones" just submarines ....... or am i getting something wrong
Interesting but I worked with the real things since 1980. This looks like some of the first generation stuff we were using. You really need lateral thrusters to really control vehicles underwater still it is an inexpensive way to get into ROV's.
Avatar is literally happening
only its a small white robot and not a hypersmurf
Did he find the treasure?
woah
I name this vessel Droney McDroneface...
I was about to roast this guy foir his;"uhm", and "uh" during this interview. But this guy is really passionate about his creation, to the same degree that I am for e-bikes, so Iway amway otnay oinggay otay ebay atthay assholeway. I hope they succeed:)
He looks like Manuel Ferrara.
I love the content but Norm is such a bad interviewer, he is way too self aware. He needs to relax more
James Cameron did it in 1989