4 Incredible Times History Was Rewritten
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I would not trust anything Zahi Hawas says about history
The idea that the servants/slaves who built the pyramids were buried with lavish trinkets, that their health was tended to... even if they had weapons or crowns... regardless of the degree of lash to flesh was required... does not detract from the simple fact that the imperatives of an entire society were shunted to serve the frivolous mortal fears of a potentate. the pyramid is material proof of the societal order.
You CAN have highly decorated slaves... it is the protestant american version which hinges upon the contempt and brutality as distinguishing features--perhaps fetishized because the taste hasn't left the mouth and thrill is gone.
Slavery is about the denial of ones own choice to participate... just because that impulse to determine ones own fate has been thwarted, denied or dispelled from ones notion of the possible... does not change the fact... An entire society served the insecurities of a single potentate... and his foreman class, or priestly order.
It is the same pattern we see in our society... where the slave-owners became trapped by their own institution--and it is that contemptible culture of that foreman class which today persists and strives to recreate that same servile order... through a dispensing with of 2000 years of governmental evolution culminating in modern democracy... in favour of a strong man. As we see Trump promising the end of politics. That is... tearing down of the order which grants some assurance of protected rights... in favour of a carpetbagger's promises. The mere allocation of societal resource and relative importance and lack of political redress... we see in ancient Egypt... is proof of slavery. No matter how little of the good stuff, rape, murder and brutality... we see.
I wouldn't suggest that the Egyptians were broken into accepting their plight... perhaps they simply didn't know the possibilities. It doesn't change the material reality which is proof enough.
The Idea that this wasn't a slave order is propaganda... as we still have pyramid builders willing to sacrifice your freedom to allay their insecurities about death... through great wealth and power over others... by buying their way into a somewhat lofty position in an oppressive hierarchical order through their service to such systems.
Those people weren't free... they couldn't just leave. And their labor was used to support their own oppressive hierarchal order. That is slavery. no matter how resigned to their fate they may have been... no matter how fancy the collars they wore.
Neanderthals didn't go extinct any more than that branch of homo sapiens.
The two branches bread into each other. So it's not really extinction, now is it? ;) IT'S SEXTINCTION!
He wasn't an idiot. He had to use Dynamite because his digging license was expiring. IF he had not have used that Dynamite we would STILL be without that discovery, today.
Thousands of years in the future, historians will be struggling to accept just how many UA-cam channels were hosted by Simon Whistler.
"Surely he must have been using slave labour"
"Dude it was an alien numbers station for sure"
And how he never retained any of the information he ever presented. A true puppet.
That's what I've been saying!
There much have been multiple Simon whistlers
CLONES
"...and with entirely too much dynamite...". One of the funniest lines ever uttered by Whistler.
lmao....There was a whale washed up in Oregon a number of years ago....The same statement was made after.
Yes. They had a big deal on it in 2020 for the 50th anniversary. Blew chunks all over the beach and many whale explosion watchers. Since 1970 dynamite is the first thing crossed off the list whenever a whale washes up on an Oregon beach.@@richardcheeseman6330
That statement also implies that there is an agreed upon amount of dynamite that is ok to use for archaeological digs. 😁
Yeah the amount is zero @@DarkZodiacZZ
According to Schliemann himself, it was in fact not enough dynamite.
The timing of Simon stating that Neandarthals being just as intelligent as we are, then immediately going to a commercial for a questionable beauty product is perfect!
An important thing people need to think of when reading history is that humans haven't changed in tens of thousands of years. People wrote letters or left messages on the public city forums to each other rather than send text messages. If a really cool monument was built you can be certain someone wrote "Jenkins was here" and a pennies was drawn on it. The "your mom..." jokes are probably older than Rome and Greece. It's weird, but people were living their lives then as we do now, but with less luxuries. Just as intelligent, dumb, hopeful, depressed, imaginative, calculating, and so on as we are today. They just didn't have electricity
Or funny cat videos, what a horrible existence
The oldest joke I know of is a fart joke. The oldest movie joke, "he is behind me, isn't he?" Is older than the odyssey. It was used in the odyssey, and there is some evidence that it was a reference to an older work.
Pompeii has roof tiles that animal prints (mostly cats) were pressed when making the tile. they used these "flawed" tiles much like how we keep concrete that our pets walk through
@KilledByThatTrain I was thinking about that, and while they didn't have the cat videos, they did have cults and religions dedicated to cats
Right? We all know that Halfdan visited the Hagia Sophia. There's also a great episode of Tasting History with Max Miller, I'm not 100% sure which but it might be "Ancient Roman Fast Food" or something like that, where Max reads a bunch of the inscriptions left behind, including one that was essentially "The service here was terrible so we took our money and spent it instead on whoores".
I think the "your Mom" jokes are pretty new, I've only ever heard them in the past few decades.
However, there is graffitti in a boarding house in Pompei that references a good place to buy food and where to find more carnal pleasure and what they charge. It is almost like an ancient Trip Advisor. There are phallic carvings on Hadrian's Wall, it is quite common in Roman architecture, when you consider that such work took hours of carving in stone rather than a couple of seconds with a marker pen or spray paint, it is quite impressive.
The Greeks go to all the effort of waging a massive war then building the Trojan Horse to get into Troy. The next guy just blew it all to hell with dynamite. Complex problems require simple solutions?
If the ancient Greeks had had dynamite, they wouldn’t have bothered with the horse.
They recently figured out that the "horse" was a type of warship.
The attacking Greeks didn't build a giant hollow wooden statue of a horse for some weird reason; they just left one of their big wooden warships "abandoned" on the shore.
Boy, do we look dumb now, eh? XD
Tropan*
That's what Alexander the Great thought when he used a sword to untie the Gordian knot.
@@fredblonder7850 "If the ancient Greeks had dynamite..."
Now there's a frightening thought experiment
10:44 Adobe didn't seem happy 😂
There does seem to be some sort of grudge 😂
Is that why we keep seeing the "no media" placard on some of these videos? I was wondering. I thought it was an inside joke. 😂
I was waiting for other post-production junkies to notice the dreaded media offline screen 😅 deadline versus QC, the fight is real
@@mickipixel the perils of quickly re-organising the clips to the project into a folder with a more friendly name than "New Folder (7)"🤣
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was like, "wait, what the hell?'
'they were short and fat, thus they must have been stupid'. A lot of modern prejudices have been around for centuries.
We will forever be discovering, rediscovering, and re-writing history.
Essence of science really; if new evidence is discovered, examine and test it - don't just poo-poo it because it goes against what has been established as 'fact'.
Never stop learning.
Until someone discovers us.
I forget who said it ... "History is written by the victors~!"
I just can't get over how we figured out how to make bows so early in our history. We still use them for hunting, it's like an Einstein of a person thought of it.
If you're travelling through thick undergrowth, you quickly become aware of the relationship between tension and potential energy - even if you don't truly understand the physics involved. Someone absent-mindedly fiddling with branches and vines could also have lucked in on the concept - it could even have been literally child's play....
Trop? Now that's what I call a typo.
Not sure how that got approved. Unless it was strategic for clickbait.
😂
This thumbnail is the epitome of the quality of this creator.
I was so confused, because in French it means 'too much'. Discovering too much? Being too enthousiastic in discovering?? Then it hit me 😂
@@JeeVeeHaychhaha 😂
I'm an American and I learned that Leif Erickson beat Columbus to America in elementary school in the 1990s.
Same.
Yep, it is always interesting the revisionist views of history the general population of Europe has about Americans as a whole.... just because some of us are socially back sliding religions zealots doesn't mean we all are...😊
And then forgot about it. Until Columbus rediscovered it, and everyone wanted a piece of it.
American boomer here; I remember learning about Leif Erickson in 5th grade in 1970. They also taught us about Columbus proving the world was round, though, and how everyone else thought he would fall off the edge of the earth and be eaten by sea monsters, but brave Columbus yada yada yada...
I was in US public schools through the 80's and 90's. We never once heard anything about anyone other than Columbus. I remember in 1992 they released a movie on it and our whole school went full "Columbus" for a few weeks. We did plays, art shows, essays, you name it.
When a student saw something about the Norse discovering it on TV and brought it up, we were told it was just made up to make a show.
Not all schools are equal it seems. But our history books were brand new! And wrong!
So if Neanderthals blew up Troy to build the pyramids, what did the Vikings do again?
History can be so confusing.
They discovered Columbus.
They made first contact with the Asgardians. This super-advanced space-faring civilization with magic-like technology were so impressed with pre-industrial Viking culture that they adopted its trappings.
They were first to set foot on the moon
Bro, pay attention. You got everything wrong. The Vikings blew up the pyramids to build troy as a home for the neanderthals who migrated from Columbus Ohio... Jesus
@@Mbappe_fan300 Actually, this is a mistranslation. There were 6 kings, in Roman numerals VI kings
5:09 That awkward moment when your third arm merges into the stick you were holding..
That's some tough wood
Yeah wonder if that is the actual Neanderthal museum or some more AI crap.
@@Hyde_Hill Absolutely AI, look the next guy's hands flow down and melt. Bet it's Simon's trap for (c) things. I've been wondering if Simon is AI generated already, since similar sounding videos from year or so ago repeat now, but it's just sign of the times (youtube dates change etc I bet). Darn AI hallucinates all over my internets.
guy next to him has extra legs
and they're all wearing pants, which weren't invented until people in ukraine/russian steppes domesticated horses and started riding them.
Good to see Captain Caveman again. I used to enjoy that cartoon
Oogly boogly ug ug.
The music was way too loud around the 12 minute mark.
Just in general!
Well Neanderthal s had animated cave paintings so they were pretty advanced. I am surprised noone spotted that earlier on
I’m in my 50s and my Californian public education taught me about the Vikings inhabiting Lanse-aux-Meadows in North America. It was discovered in the 60s, I believe.
1:05 - Chapter 1 - So easy a caveman can do it
2:00 - Mid roll ads
3:25 - Back to the video
6:05 - Chapter 2 - The lost city of troy
9:40 - Chapter 3 - Who really built the pyramids
13:00 - Chapter 4 - The discovery of the new world
Lifesaver!!
If Professor Daniel Jackson says it was aliens who built the pyramids, (and even were launch pads for spaceships) I believe him!
I've always wanted to visit Trop.
10:46 you seem to have a media file issue, i am not sure if that was on purpose, but seems like you are missing a clip.
I have seen the exact same red screen on other videos and channels.
Most times just a flash to fast too read. This one was there a long time.
ya i wasn't to sure if it was supposed to be there or not, just wanted to let them know
I enjoy that there are semi fossilized squares of moss in a hole in the middle of 4 posts in the ground...outhouses for the win. Definitely clicked to find out what torp was.
In fact, Atlantis was very probably based on the explosion of the volcanic island of Thera which led to the end of the Minoan civilisation.
Definitely worth a video!
I had a city builder game in the late 90s called "Pharaoh", and in that the pyramid builders were also the farm labourers - they'd build monuments outside farming season, then go back to planting/harvesting when the season resumed.
If a game (though admittedly an incredibly accurate one) from the 90s could get that right, it honestly boggles my mind that it was nearly another 20 years before people found empirical proof worth believing...
“Trop”
Oh man…how do you even…that bad…😆
Couldn’t the building of the pyramids be a hybrid workforce of artisans AND slaves? Makes sense to me
No. The Egyptian army was small and dispersed. You couldn't control that many people
Also slavery was unheard of in the 3rd and 4th dynasty when they built them
They were built by workers not slaves they were paid good
Nah, artisans and laborers. The workers were well fed and well cared for, with their own on-site towns and all the beer and grains they could want. Egypt didn't really do the slave thing at this point in their history anyway.
@@semaj_5022it makes sense to me, especially after I started watching the TV show "Hell on Wheels", a fictionalized accounting of the traveling tent city that moved along as the train tracks were built across the U.S.. this is how things get done.
The comedy of posing the question ‘were Neanderthals our intellectual equals?’ then running a skin care ad is not lost on me. Bravo editor!
Harry Harrison wrote an absolutely hilarious book called The Technicolor Time Machine about the Vikings traveling to Vinland.
About Columbus: in his time, a conqueror was considered entitled to some looting and having his pick of women from the nation being conquered. His behavior was so egregious, even people who were ok with that basis were appalled. Safe to say that this was not a nice dude. You also left out that Columbus didn't try to convince his sponsors that the earth was round, since they already knew that. The difference of opinion was about the size of the planet. The sponsors knew a number that was close enough to being correct that for their purposes it made no difference and rightfully believed the expedition would run out of food and drinkable water long before reaching land. Columbus was convinced the Earth was a lot smaller than that. The sponsors were right and if there hadn't been this whole continent in the way of the journey to India, Columbus and his crew would indeed have starved.
Well, by 1492, it was known from Eratosthenes' work that Earth had a circumference of 25.000 miles. But from Marco Polo and other travelers along Silk Road, it was known that China lay 7.000 miles, to the East. This leave 18.000 miles to the West, in order to reach China. And this was the source of concern for his sponsors, as no ship would cross 18.000 miles of endless water.
Or sailed off the edge😂😂😂
You the man Simon. Excellent presentation.
Cool, a family member got a reference in the video! Sweet. Great great uncle Rasmus was a interesting dude. We still have quit a bit of his stuff.
My ears perked up when you said Vinland, after watching Vinland Saga I looked it up and never found anything on it so thank you for that 😊
History is written by the Victors. Everyone else just lives through it.
That Segway from neanderthals to radiant skin really threw me through a loop
Ah yes, Trop. From where we get the Tropan goat legend.
What surprises me is that we still call Neanderthals a different species given that we know we interbred
If I could go back to a moment in history, I would like to watch that person figure out the bow and arrow.
I think it comes from fire making. You can roll a stick between the hands pressed onto some wood to make fire, but it is hard work. If you can make any sort of string (from sinew, strands from plants etc.) wrap it round the stick and tie the ends to a bent stick to provide friction and move that bent one back and forth, you have a bow drill (look up videos of this). It doesn't take much to then realise that the bow can propel a stick then work to make a bigger and better one.
It is also possible that this method of fire making may have come from trying to make holes in wood for construction.
@@nlwilson4892 do you think the bow drill came first or the bow for hunting?
@@anthonycade9034 The bow drill would make sense, much simpler. A bow for hunting need to be much more refined, you need much better "string" and a stronger bow to get and force or distance and arrows need to be very straight and all the same weight and width to be predictable in where they will hit. Although they probably used them quite close-up at first and refined them over generations to go further.
The inhabitants of Trop were The Tropics, right?
Neantherdals were primitive by our standards but they weren't stupid. If I remember one document correctly getting the pitch just right took some effort even by modern researchers.
6:20 Simon hides the fact that he's working without shoes.
Viking presence in North America was taught to me in elementary school in the 80s and 90s.
Beginning to get whiplash from these ad pivots
There's a shock!?
Hawass was wrong about something in Egypt... 😂
10:43 err...media offline?
🤔
You got the work experience guy doing the video for this one?
Discovering Trop?
When things were already known locally but the west “discover” it
I think it was supposed to be Troy
I appreciate at least some of the AI depictions were declared as AI.
He should do a video about the internal ramp theory re: pyramids
Simon Whistler is inevitable.
The modern history of North America is so easily shown to be mostly mythologised, and wildly inaccurate with a core of truth, but is still largely believed to be basically true by so many people despite this, that we should question large parts of world history ....
History is fascinating and amazing.
Someone once said history is what we're told happened the past is what you did getting out of bed this morning.
Some gimp.
“This was even supported by Herodotus who…totally knew a guy” 10:02
yeh I almost inhaled a mouthful of coffee at that line, having heard of his sketchy reliability many times
It was an incredible introduction video
That last sentence hits hard, especially since my middle school had science books so old, the teacher had crossed out parts thanks to new research in the 60s up to the 90s.
I thought it went "fourteen hundred and ninety two Columbus got us a day off school".
dude, how many channels is this guy apart of?
THE TROPAN WAR!
Simon, you rock!
Columbus did, in fact, set foot in mainland North America. It wasn't until his fourth voyage, though, which touched base in what is now Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama.
Good vid broski
As an American, I have never heard that rhyme before in my life...
CAPTAIN CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
I see the thumbnail has been corrected! Was very interested in "discovering trop" as I had no clue what 'trop' might have been, but was too busy to click on the video. Slightly disappointed that I now will never know what 'trop' is or might have been, but it was fun to speculate for a day or so!
Fun fact. I am 70 years old, and I learned all of that when I was in school.
I'll need to be highly skeptical any public school in America has history books from the 1960's. You should do a side project on the US Department of Education. Explore it's controversial beginnings and questionable outcomes. Then look at the link between the politicians and paper industry. Then ask yourself if that 1960's books in public schools comment checks out.
American education leaves a lot of room for improvement in many areas, but they ceased teaching the 'Columbus' myth a long time ago.
Derp “The oldest known evidence for anatomically modern humans (as of 2017) are fossils found at Jebel Irhoud, Morocco, dated about 360,000 years old”
23rd Century:
“Wow those 21st Century scholars and people sure were clueless about humans.”
More like Incredible Times the Title Card Was Rewritten. But joking aside I do appreciate that being fixed as it seemed like a huge oversight.
We know so little about history
We only know what they’ve told us.
And yet everyone around Simon think Graham Hancock is barking mad.
We know so little that we don't know what we don't know.
One thing we learn from history is we learn nothing from history
@@Ai-dz7ysHancock isn’t mad, he’s just a conman.
1:59 - No Simon, literally not one single time in my entire life :P
According to maya legend Palenque was provided with a king by a sailing ship arriving from a north.
The ship brought a red bearded short man, whose rule as a king made the then town of Palenque into a local superpower.
There's probably enough simon whistler content to make an AI Simon
The Schliemann music got me.
When you think you can't hate ads more then you already do and then you watch this video...
The "interbreeding music" is weird for me. History shows that when that type of thing occurs on a mass level it's not a love story at all. It's brutal to say the least but I guess they're keeping it family friendly.
They're talking about interbreeding over many generations not lots of people all at once so there is no need to think that it was forced with one side oppressing the other. Their existence in Europe overlapped by at least 10,000 years.
@@nlwilson4892 there are none left, so the interbreeding was thorough. It doesn't work the way you want to think. Read about the Conquistadors, Rome, Alexander, Vikings, Mongols, Barbs and many more. It's not nice but don't blame it on me.
@@2neetoon Of course the interbreeding was thorough, they had 10,000 years of it with a tiny population compared to anything in written history. Estimates of world population in 10,000 BCE are around 2 million and you're going back another 40,000 years to the time they estimate Neanderthals finally ceased to exist.
The much much later societies that you're talking about were organized societies with structures, hierarchies etc. You're talking about 40,000 years later for the first of those.
I love the stories about Melen of Trop, and how she was incredibly ugly. So ugly a war was started, because she was too ugly to be left alive.
To most of us (in the US) the whole "in 1492, Columbus..." thing was non-sense by the time we got out of elementary school. By secondary school, we knew that (this is back in the 80's) that it was most likely that (A) Columbus never actually set foot in North America and (B) the Scandinavians had been here CENTURIES before. Yeah...Americans are ignorant sometimes...but not on this case.
If the islands off the coast off the Americas don't count as part of the Americas than England is not part of Europe and Japan is not part of Asia. Thus the English aren't European and the Japanese aren't Asian.
Also, Columbus may have not been the first European to set foot in NA but he did discover Americas in the sense that Europe was made aware of the new world because of his travels. The same cannot be said of the Norse expeditions.
I was in school in the same era, and I was not taught about the Scandinavians in the Americas.
@@Guy-cb1oh Neither Leiv Eriksson (norseman) og Columbus did find America. The American continent had already been found by "what is later called" American natives 20000 or 16000 years ago. What Leiv Eriksson and Columbus did find was the sea way between Europe and America. Europeans didn't discover much, we just wrecked the life of others in our so-called discoveries
Yo Simon. Can we get a video on where all the money going to Ukraine is winding up? Or how about one that tracks the stock trades of politicians worth 100 millions that only have a salary ~$220k
Comrade Simon would be all to happy for 100% of your money to disappear in the Ukraine with no accountability. He's not going to make a video about it. It is possible he'd make a video about politicians making millions off of stock trades, but I'd wager he'd only include certain politicians in the video.
The US isn't sending money to Ukraine, it is sending US manufactured arms and ammunition. The US Gov (and others) have satellites that can see where it is ending up along with loads of videos in the public domain.
Both ancient and recent history are currently facing overhauls.
'Whoever controls the past controls the future - whoever controls the present controls the past'.
More on the pyramids, this is speculation for you to consider. During the Great Depression, the US government created jobs for the unemployed, such as The Tennessee Valley Project. When the Nile flooded before the building of the Aswan Dam, there was a large population in Egypt basically unemployed. There were professional rock masons employed year round, but the stones were moved by this temporary workforce. In a way, this was how Egyptian government created work during the floods. I don’t know why this stopped, perhaps instead of funerary campuses(like the Giza Complex)the temps were used to move stone for east bank temples, granaries, and other infrastructure.
“Not Atlantis….” Lmfaooo
It's still semantically plausible for Columbus to discover North America despite not being the first European there. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Nope. He was nothing but a tool for Christian white supremacy.
I agree. Saying that Columbus didn't discover america because the Native american's were there thousands of years earlier is like saying Heinrich Schlieman didn't discover Troy because the Trojans were there thousands of years earlier.
@@Guy-cb1oh it would be a bit different if the vikings shared their knowledge with the other European powers, likewise if the Native Americans contacted the Europeans to share that knowledge then it would no longer be a "discovery"
So much of history has changed... Especially with things during WWII
TROP HAS BEEN FIXED. good job guys.
SideProjects, how did you not mention that the dismissal (at 14:44) of the Kensington runestone 100 years ago was itself disproved recently by the evidence of unforgeable root growth on it from the tree that grew over it many years before it was dug up?
The idea that most American schools can’t afford history books newer than 1960 is preposterous and simply wrong.
It certainly wasn’t in the 1980s-90s. Considering how the financial situation hasn’t improved in most schools, I doubt the textbook situation is any better.
They squander so much money
I want to see Simon do ads for Lucky Strikes
"To make ammunition for the Crimean war"
Something things just don't change...
Troy? Dude, I came here to learn about a city called Trop! We want Trop! We want Trop!
I thought the city of Troy being real was pretty cool growing up
The Vikings were indeed in the Midwest as my deceased brother-in-law discovered signs of Vikings on the Viking Trail in North Western Wisconsin and Minnesota! He passed in 98 so it's been known for over 36 years!
I was at school witha really big lad who couldn't pronounce the word properly and called them Nan-derfal, which became his nickname, but you had to be a fair distance away if you were gonna yell it at him because he's smush you like a mammoth! 🦖
In my average school in this average city. They taught us about Erik discovering America first. That was 10 years ago
he discovered America 10 years ago? 😮
“But not Atlantis”. Me and Fact Boi are so on the same page 😂.
by your last statement, are you saying that history books suddenly got more expensive in 1961?
0:11 What about if I invented regular time travel?
Keep that Atlantis energy
I don't have the specific resource names handy, but the Norse discovery of America is a special interest of mine, and there's actually evidence to suggest Norse settlement and/or travel to North America throughout the few centuries leading up to Columbus, rather than just one short stint around 1000 AD. I think it's somewhere in the financial records of the Norwegian church at the time, because they would receive tithes from Greenland (and I think Iceland) periodically, which is where the Norse settlers to America had originally come from. There've also been alleged claims of other Europeans who supposedly reached or at least sighted North America before Columbus, but they're hard to prove or disprove one way or another, such as the Italian brothers Nicolo and Antonio Zeno. Also, it's widely theorized that Columbus had visited Iceland in 1477, well before the Americas, and I have a feeling that he could've easily found out that North America existed already from speaking to the locals (or having a translator speak to the locals).