Thanks for the vids! I found your vid while searching for DIY examples of the Ingersoll Rand socket, which has a flywheel-like disc near the drive-side. Its design doesn't lend itself to extra rigidity, just rotational mass. I can only guess mass increases the length of time it applies the load; slower accel/decel = less peak torque but increasing how long it's applied. Imagine throwing a pebble vs hammer. It could even be a mix of both. You could test this by only welding the input side - same rotational mass but less rigidity. In any case I'm going to get some cheap HF sockets and give this a shot!
I have a dewalt drill with 3x5amp batteries, thinking of getting the dewalt dcf899. But I really want the big milwaukee :( Can't decide if I want to burn the money on a complete kit or just go with the dewalt.. I did se a guy try the dewalt on some truck lugnuts. I think he broke it though.. I don't know :/
@@Amuris86 if you work on big truck stuff maybe go for the milwaukee but the dewalt is awesome and if you already have the batteries I would get the dewalt
I know you had a cam in one hand but I use both hands one on the trigger one pushing the gun to the fastener. Having said that I could hear a difference with the heavy socket. I bought a 1 n 1/4 inch Carlyle impact socket for 14.50 good deal I thought. I really didn't think the heavy would make a difference but I could hear it for myself
I have the Dewalt 899 and I'm seriously thinking about getting the Milwaukee...Is it worth it or is the power difference minimal enough that makes the cost not make sense to switch?
_ Red it depends on what you are working on if u work on rusty seized up stuff all day then I'd get the Milwaukee just for the better options in batteries alone but if not I love my dcf899 and it can do pretty much everything I need
_ Red I think the power diff is u have to see your impact can't do what you need it to do so you really want to move up even if it's only a couple hundred foot lbs but what can't your dcf899 do?
@@singlecams Ive only had a couple fasteners it couldn't get out...1 was a 17mm Honda crank bolt but I actually think it could have done it had I switched between loosening and tightening the bolt a couple times. And the other time was the 14mm in the rear lower control arm bolt on my 99 civic...it moved it slightly when I switched the direction a couple times but I stoped out of the fear of shearing the bolt off. I have 2 6ah flex volt battery I just got with the 60v grinder and I'm wondering if they would give it more power I just haven't tried them yet...Thanks for replying
_ Red well this couldn't get this crank bolt out either and if you look at the Ingersoll it couldn't budge the lower bolts on some of those control arms so it's hard to say if in your case a diff impact would have worked better
@@singlecams the video you made where the Milwaukee loosened that bolt with the 3ft extension that the Dewalt couldn't made me wonder too...Its crazy how powerful the cordless tools are now
it doesnt really have to be perfect but what you can do is put some aluminum foil folded up or maybe even 3 screw drivers so you can try to keep the socket in the middle then make 3 welds spaced evenly apart , let that cool then take out screw drivers and weld around it
My ridgid pull off my crank shaft pulley without any hassle and bolted it back on so I didn't throw my timing off, it been 3 years since I changed out my timing chain, timing house gasket, oil pan gasket, and my water pump some of these info on youtube are BS put some pb blaster on there to help break those rusty bolt free, crank shaft pulley are out in the open at the enviorment mercy.
Sorry but not really all BS .. when you work on honda -acura cranks .. no pb or any penetrating oil will help you.. theres a mechanical explanation on using heavy sockets(torque multiplier) thumbs up to uploader of this video
Thanks for the video my man. For truck lug nuts, I wonder if the 3/4 or 1 inch Milwaukee wrenches, which are actually bigger hammered, would still require lisle type sockets? Would be nice to see them work on them lugs for comparison!
singlecams thanks for the link... proven point and impressed. Now for the real test... get the same test done on a Canadian riding rig exposed to winter salts and sloshy road grit ;)
Check out junkie shop time, he works on big dump trucks and uses the 3/4 Milwaukee to change tires on those trucks . That impact has no issue at all. I believe he uses the 2767 as well to compare
The 4th setting is drive mode it has the same reverse torque as 3. When in drive mode it will stop spinning when it senses the fastener has broken free. So in other words makes no difference for reverse in this video. Also check out the latest Amazon impact wrench videos removing crank bolt with this socket
Especially if it can save you alot of money by not having to spend on a power tool that barely gets used. I can get by with the mid torque for alot of the hard stuff and use the pipe for extreme hard bolds.
see I didn't even think about using the dewalt and it would have made a great video lol! I did make a video of the dewalt working on crank bolts so it can do it but sometimes you are going to come across some that are just too tight
If you believe that impact produces that torque you are a fool! I know for a fact under testing the gun it is in NO WAY CAPABLE OF PRODUCING THAT KIND OF TORQUE!Look on the INTERNET for actual testing against a Snap on and a Dewalt also a IR GUN ON TEST BENCHES . ALSO THE ANVIL OF THE GUN WOULD BREAK LONG BEFORE YOU REACH THAT TORQUE. LASTLY if you ever torque down a Cylinder head bolt on a Catapiller earthmover 1400 lbs ft of torque has to be done with a torque multiply!
@@chicosd1904 Home depot is told by the Milwaukee salesperson so they repeat the same thing.Also the other day I ran into a salesperson who works for Milwaukee trying to tell me the same thing,I told him I would bring My torque wrench down which is a 3/4 drive 700 lbs ft max with a torque multiply and a Nut/ bolt that can be ran down to that 1200 lbs ft of torque I want to see it take the nut off! He said they do not do that in Home Depot! I told him you resistance to do such a demonstration proves my point!
just buy the right socket! save time and money! Alot more people have a couple dollars laying around vs a welder! Or even know how to use one. Mac Tools and Lisle make both sockets and it has never taken me longer then 10 seconds to get any Honda Crank bolt free.
@@edwardthayer9386 Sure it is that is why I put the screenshot to the semi truck results in the video. The whole point was that you could make ANY size heavy socket just like Chris did. I even mentioned the heavy weight 14mm for my own use. The Lisle socket is from Chris.
CHRIS VIDEO: ua-cam.com/video/C5WNF-Hj410/v-deo.html
Always helps to tighten once every few times when unscrewing bolts. It helps come off faster.
Just buy the 19mm Lisle hormonic balancer socket, it costs less than your 2 sockets + welding material together
Thanks for putting up this clip. Informative and also I've used a short blast from a good penetrating spray helps in the process.
Ingersoll Rand already makes these.... They're called powersockets and in my experience they work fantastically. They are kinda pricy though
Thanks man, I have been looking for these tools forever.
This is an example of torque multiplying sockets
I never knew that the weight of the socket is a matter.. 😂 By the way thanks for this video.. I learn something from u. 👍
Nice welds by the way. That’s the first thing I noticed lol
Thanks for the vids! I found your vid while searching for DIY examples of the Ingersoll Rand socket, which has a flywheel-like disc near the drive-side. Its design doesn't lend itself to extra rigidity, just rotational mass. I can only guess mass increases the length of time it applies the load; slower accel/decel = less peak torque but increasing how long it's applied. Imagine throwing a pebble vs hammer. It could even be a mix of both.
You could test this by only welding the input side - same rotational mass but less rigidity. In any case I'm going to get some cheap HF sockets and give this a shot!
Interesting concept, man i still need to get ahold of one of the new milwaukee fuel 1/2
it's really expensive man but it can do a lot of work but even the old one could
I have a dewalt drill with 3x5amp batteries, thinking of getting the dewalt dcf899. But I really want the big milwaukee :( Can't decide if I want to burn the money on a complete kit or just go with the dewalt.. I did se a guy try the dewalt on some truck lugnuts. I think he broke it though.. I don't know :/
@@Amuris86 if you work on big truck stuff maybe go for the milwaukee but the dewalt is awesome and if you already have the batteries I would get the dewalt
@@singlecams Ok, thanks. I guess I don't need the Milwaukee. I don't have a Honda either, so. I'll go for the 899.
I know you had a cam in one hand but I use both hands one on the trigger one pushing the gun to the fastener. Having said that I could hear a difference with the heavy socket. I bought a 1 n 1/4 inch Carlyle impact socket for 14.50 good deal I thought. I really didn't think the heavy would make a difference but I could hear it for myself
I have the Dewalt 899 and I'm seriously thinking about getting the Milwaukee...Is it worth it or is the power difference minimal enough that makes the cost not make sense to switch?
_ Red it depends on what you are working on if u work on rusty seized up stuff all day then I'd get the Milwaukee just for the better options in batteries alone but if not I love my dcf899 and it can do pretty much everything I need
_ Red I think the power diff is u have to see your impact can't do what you need it to do so you really want to move up even if it's only a couple hundred foot lbs but what can't your dcf899 do?
@@singlecams Ive only had a couple fasteners it couldn't get out...1 was a 17mm Honda crank bolt but I actually think it could have done it had I switched between loosening and tightening the bolt a couple times. And the other time was the 14mm in the rear lower control arm bolt on my 99 civic...it moved it slightly when I switched the direction a couple times but I stoped out of the fear of shearing the bolt off. I have 2 6ah flex volt battery I just got with the 60v grinder and I'm wondering if they would give it more power I just haven't tried them yet...Thanks for replying
_ Red well this couldn't get this crank bolt out either and if you look at the Ingersoll it couldn't budge the lower bolts on some of those control arms so it's hard to say if in your case a diff impact would have worked better
@@singlecams the video you made where the Milwaukee loosened that bolt with the 3ft extension that the Dewalt couldn't made me wonder too...Its crazy how powerful the cordless tools are now
I would recommend this to anyone
? What model of Milwaukee u using to remove crankshaft bolt
says it in description
Thanks
I like this video
Wow effect
Nice…
When welding the sockets together, do you ever have issues with the inside socket sagging off a bit to one side?
it doesnt really have to be perfect but what you can do is put some aluminum foil folded up or maybe even 3 screw drivers so you can try to keep the socket in the middle then make 3 welds spaced evenly apart , let that cool then take out screw drivers and weld around it
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My ridgid pull off my crank shaft pulley without any hassle and bolted it back on so I didn't throw my timing off, it been 3 years since I changed out my timing chain, timing house gasket, oil pan gasket, and my water pump some of these info on youtube are BS put some pb blaster on there to help break those rusty bolt free, crank shaft pulley are out in the open at the enviorment mercy.
what car was that?
Sorry but not really all BS .. when you work on honda -acura cranks .. no pb or any penetrating oil will help you.. theres a mechanical explanation on using heavy sockets(torque multiplier) thumbs up to uploader of this video
Thanks for the video my man. For truck lug nuts, I wonder if the 3/4 or 1 inch Milwaukee wrenches, which are actually bigger hammered, would still require lisle type sockets? Would be nice to see them work on them lugs for comparison!
you are right dude lol I searched and found this ua-cam.com/video/pegquPmKZsA/v-deo.html That dewalt socket looks pretty thick too
singlecams thanks for the link... proven point and impressed. Now for the real test... get the same test done on a Canadian riding rig exposed to winter salts and sloshy road grit ;)
right exactly the nuts didn't even have rust on them lol
Check out junkie shop time, he works on big dump trucks and uses the 3/4 Milwaukee to change tires on those trucks . That impact has no issue at all. I believe he uses the 2767 as well to compare
Check out the snap-on junkie. he has a video where he uses the new milwaukee 2864 to remove and install 10 tires on one of his dump trucks.
In the Milwaukee testing look at your setting you were at the 3 not the full torque of the Milwaukee impact
The 4th setting is drive mode it has the same reverse torque as 3. When in drive mode it will stop spinning when it senses the fastener has broken free. So in other words makes no difference for reverse in this video. Also check out the latest Amazon impact wrench videos removing crank bolt with this socket
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Some times a breaker bar and pipe STIL IS NEEDED
Especially if it can save you alot of money by not having to spend on a power tool that barely gets used. I can get by with the mid torque for alot of the hard stuff and use the pipe for extreme hard bolds.
I wonder if the Dewalt impact would’ve handled it without the special sockets
see I didn't even think about using the dewalt and it would have made a great video lol!
I did make a video of the dewalt working on crank bolts so it can do it but sometimes you are going to come across some that are just too tight
Yes, the Dewalt impact can do it. I have one and always take those nut out with out problem.
Carlos Pérez I think it has more breakaway torque than the Milwaukee. It’s a monster.
jeffscomp no it wouldn’t because dewalt sucks
@@jeffscomp the biggest milwaukee has more breakaway torque than the Dewalt, I'm almost positive.
The Milwaukee is rated for 1400 ft/lbs and rigid is rated for 450 ft/lbs
If you believe that impact produces that torque you are a fool! I know for a fact under testing the gun it is in NO WAY CAPABLE OF PRODUCING THAT KIND OF TORQUE!Look on the INTERNET for actual testing against a Snap on and a Dewalt also a IR GUN ON TEST BENCHES . ALSO THE ANVIL OF THE GUN WOULD BREAK LONG BEFORE YOU REACH THAT TORQUE. LASTLY if you ever torque down a Cylinder head bolt on a Catapiller earthmover 1400 lbs ft of torque has to be done with a torque multiply!
That’s info I pulled from homedepot.com
No need for your pantys to get in a knot
@@chicosd1904 There not in a knot I am LAUGHING at the fact a lot of people were sold on the False Advertising done on this gun!
@@chicosd1904 Home depot is told by the Milwaukee salesperson so they repeat the same thing.Also the other day I ran into a salesperson who works for Milwaukee trying to tell me the same thing,I told him I would bring My torque wrench down which is a 3/4 drive 700 lbs ft max with a torque multiply and a Nut/ bolt that can be ran down to that 1200 lbs ft of torque I want to see it take the nut off! He said they do not do that in Home Depot! I told him you resistance to do such a demonstration proves my point!
It has more ugga-duggas.
ingersoll rand w7152 or dewalt DCF 899 can take it no problem
Why waste the Bigger Socket....? There are bigger extension on sale.
not rght you must make the inside hammer biger that is how get power
and tourqe
How about a heavy 29mm? And he didn't come up with this
Huh? You know that is the guy who has the patent on the lisle socket?
You can make any socket I made a 32 in another video.
@@singlecams wrong video sorry, I was watching a bunch of these, another guy said he was the original of a Heavey weighted counter balance socket
@@singlecams I'm attempting a 1-1/8 socket
@@blazzer73553 ok send pic when it's done 😊
Harbor Freight Earthquake XT impact would have took them out with ease lol
Maybe, but in heavy rust situations, thats not the case.
Yeah for about 10 or 20 minutes after lol
Dam..can't understand this..
Everything flexes, you just can't see the flex, by changing the thickness or size of the socket it doesn't flex as much, so more impact force to bolt.
FACOM NUMBZR ONE 1690NM
FACOM good but not exactly #1
just buy the right socket! save time and money! Alot more people have a couple dollars laying around vs a welder! Or even know how to use one. Mac Tools and Lisle make both sockets and it has never taken me longer then 10 seconds to get any Honda Crank bolt free.
They make a 33mm heavy socket? That is what the video was about
@@singlecams Definitely not what this video is about, fyi there is nothing 33mm on a Honda!
@@singlecams you should always read the description first.
@@edwardthayer9386 Sure it is that is why I put the screenshot to the semi truck results in the video. The whole point was that you could make ANY size heavy socket just like Chris did. I even mentioned the heavy weight 14mm for my own use. The Lisle socket is from Chris.
hmmm........